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AllAboutCams 12-09-2022 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by heiko0o (Post 23070744)
Did your situation get better? Unfortunately for me its still bad. I've actually never had such a period as bad as this one :(.

a little better but im trying to change a few things

TurboB 12-09-2022 03:54 PM

Well, when all say it is bad period - for me it is good.
And vice-versa.
It all depends on the whales.

Emil 12-10-2022 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Theblowjobplace (Post 23056330)
After reading this thread and discovering the white label system, I decided to get started too. It starts slowly but surely, I have no idea.

https://s7w3s8u9.ssl.hwcdn.net/wp-co...ds/Capture.png

Looks great. You seem to have some good quality traffic. I would keep sending the traffic. Lots of members wont pay shit but then some people will become the kind of customers you want, the ones that keep coming back over and over again and spend more money.

I have no idea what the ratio between members pay and the ones that doesn't, but Chaturbate will make you money in the end.

AllAboutCams 12-10-2022 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theblowjobplace (Post 23056330)
After reading this thread and discovering the white label system, I decided to get started too. It starts slowly but surely, I have no idea.

https://s7w3s8u9.ssl.hwcdn.net/wp-co...ds/Capture.png

What type of traffic is that

sarettah 12-10-2022 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 23071189)
What type of traffic is that

Internet traffic.

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PretjeNL 12-11-2022 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23071236)
Internet traffic.

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Yup! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

mrmister 12-11-2022 07:29 AM

Keep at it. It took some of my biggest spenders years to start spending

GoCastaway 12-11-2022 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23071458)
Keep at it. It took some of my biggest spenders years to start spending

Exact! My biggest spender took almost 4 years before he started spending

Cyrano 12-11-2022 06:26 PM

How assiduous and aggressive is Chaturbate in banning affiliate accounts?

I haven't been banned, however I'm a bit worried. I run a chan-style site and members post links to webcam girls they discover. There's no pirated content, just links and occasionally a screenshot. I received a DMCA directly from Chaturbate and this spooked me -- it was related to a screenshot someone posted alongside the performer's URL.

Has this happened to you? I tried removing all images of performers, though it wouldn't surprise me if I missed one or two. This policy seems rather silly given that, in effect, that image was promotional.

Will this land me Chaturbate's radar? When a ban occurs, it is usually in response to a model complaint?

Cyrano 12-11-2022 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyrano (Post 23071669)
How assiduous and aggressive is Chaturbate in banning affiliate accounts?

I haven't been banned, however I'm a bit worried. I run a chan-style site and members post links to webcam girls they discover. There's no pirated content, just links and occasionally a screenshot. I received a DMCA directly from Chaturbate and this spooked me -- it was related to a screenshot someone posted alongside the performer's URL.

Has this happened to you? I tried removing all images of performers, though it wouldn't surprise me if I missed one or two. This policy seems rather silly given that, in effect, that image was promotional.

Will this land me Chaturbate's radar? When a ban occurs, it is usually in response to a model complaint?

Damn, I'm tired. Please excuse the errors. In short, I received a DMCA for a screenshot of a performer hosted on my server. It was located alongside a link to her page. Does Chaturbate make a habit of this?

Does anyone have insight as to how they cross-check domains (with DMCA complaints) with affiliate accounts? I don't recall listing my domain during the affiliate signup process and my API-based ads are hosted on a separate domain (iframe). I'm considering removing advertisements except for registered members as a precaution, basically hiding links from guests, until I have time to conduct a careful review and remove any other images that might fall afoul of their policy.

Anyway, all of this aside, these two weeks have been stellar.

gar 12-11-2022 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyrano (Post 23071678)
Damn, I'm tired. Please excuse the errors. In short, I received a DMCA for a screenshot of a performer hosted on my server. It was located alongside a link to her page. Does Chaturbate make a habit of this?

Does anyone have insight as to how they cross-check domains (with DMCA complaints) with affiliate accounts? I don't recall listing my domain during the affiliate signup process and my API-based ads are hosted on a separate domain (iframe). I'm considering removing advertisements except for registered members as a precaution, basically hiding links from guests, until I have time to conduct a careful review and remove any other images that might fall afoul of their policy.

Anyway, all of this aside, these two weeks have been stellar.

It's models who reported to Chaturbate. If you want to do aff with them you just need to remove those screenshots.

zerovic 12-13-2022 01:00 AM

I'm once again ready to submit a report to CB support about some users who have been away and stopped spending for weeks now. Most of my biggest spenders are basically gone in the last 30+ days. The same thing happened last year, when the biggest whales were stolen by models. Will see what happens.

mrmister 12-13-2022 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23072218)
I'm once again ready to submit a report to CB support about some users who have been away and stopped spending for weeks now. Most of my biggest spenders are basically gone in the last 30+ days. The same thing happened last year, when the biggest whales were stolen by models. Will see what happens.

Let me know how it goes

mopek1 12-13-2022 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23072218)
The same thing happened last year, when the biggest whales were stolen by models.

How did you find out that your big spenders were stolen? Meaning how did you figure that out looking at your stats? I'll have to go over mine if this kind of thing happens.

MobileVRXXX 12-13-2022 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23072238)
How did you find out that your big spenders were stolen? Meaning how did you figure that out looking at your stats? I'll have to go over mine if this kind of thing happens.

Use Bill`s tool if you don't want to go over the csv`s by CB.

Shedevils 12-13-2022 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23072218)
I'm once again ready to submit a report to CB support about some users who have been away and stopped spending for weeks now. Most of my biggest spenders are basically gone in the last 30+ days. The same thing happened last year, when the biggest whales were stolen by models. Will see what happens.

When you send a report like this what do you say? Is it just a list of the ID's? Do you have a template? What level of proof etc?

Before I ran a White Label I had a paysite with a forum and some of the users would talk about getting perks from the models and changing accounts. I didn't think much about it at the time, but they were all my spenders and now I realize I may be out of quite a bit of money.

dUbster 12-13-2022 06:08 PM

I have finally started my CB journey, I hope one day in the future I can come here and look back at this post with a big smile on my face

AllAboutCams 12-13-2022 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shedevils (Post 23072453)
When you send a report like this what do you say? Is it just a list of the ID's? Do you have a template? What level of proof etc?

Before I ran a White Label I had a paysite with a forum and some of the users would talk about getting perks from the models and changing accounts. I didn't think much about it at the time, but they were all my spenders and now I realize I may be out of quite a bit of money.

I dont think they will say anything like they did with me.

This period has been horrendous worst in years makes no sense

mrmister 12-13-2022 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 23072512)
I dont think they will say anything like they did with me.

This period has been horrendous worst in years makes no sense

Mines been bad aswell. I think it's just time of year. Unless we've all had our users stolen at the same time and I'm in the gay niche :D

zerovic 12-15-2022 08:06 AM

All I do is make a list of user IDs that went missing in the last few months and ask them politely for cooperation. Even tho, the user creates a new account, they have their real name, address, credit card number so they can easily track them down. Again, don't ask them to return the users, describe the situation, and tell them you smell something fishy. Last time I got 4 users back along with more than $10k.

mrmister 12-15-2022 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23073146)
All I do is make a list of user IDs that went missing in the last few months and ask them politely for cooperation. Even tho, the user creates a new account, they have their real name, address, credit card number so they can easily track them down. Again, don't ask them to return the users, describe the situation, and tell them you smell something fishy. Last time I got 4 users back along with more than $10k.

How many user IDs did you report? I have a feeling if I send them like 20 they will be like " too much work. Fuck that " :D

zerovic 12-15-2022 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23073155)
How many user IDs did you report? I have a feeling if I send them like 20 they will be like " too much work. Fuck that " :D

Hi,

Last time, it was 8 IDs. As I said, 4 out of 8 were returned along with the revenue. I will report about 8-10 this time as well.

Cheers,
z

mrmister 12-15-2022 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23073171)
Hi,

Last time, it was 8 IDs. As I said, 4 out of 8 were returned along with the revenue. I will report about 8-10 this time as well.

Cheers,
z

Let us know how it goes

MobileVRXXX 12-16-2022 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23073171)
Hi,

Last time, it was 8 IDs. As I said, 4 out of 8 were returned along with the revenue. I will report about 8-10 this time as well.

Cheers,
z

How do you find that many I am only looking at my top 30 spenders?

I was probably the first to mention an account was given back to me, but since then I have reported probably more than 50 users with no success at all :).

heiko0o 12-16-2022 09:37 AM

Y'all are not the only one with the worst period. It was basically the worst period i've ever had and i have messaged CB Support about this too with some ID's. Let's see what they will say.

LouiseLloyd 12-16-2022 11:12 AM

Feels uncomfortable having to email support to question if our referrals have been unethically acquired by other affiliates, namely models. This is affiliate fraud and shouldn’t be part of affiliates remit to question the legitimacy of a programs ability to ensure the rightful affiliate is credited for their hard work.

LouiseLloyd 12-16-2022 11:14 AM

Feels uncomfortable having to email support to question if our referrals have been unethically acquired by other affiliates, namely models. This is affiliate fraud and shouldn’t be part of affiliates remit to question the legitimacy of a program and their ability to ensure the rightful affiliate is credited for their hard work.

dUbster 12-16-2022 01:14 PM

This happens every year around Christmas, it's normal, things will pick up again shortly

Colmike9 12-16-2022 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dUbster (Post 23073681)
This happens every year around Christmas, it's normal, things will pick up again shortly

Still going good for me..
Things should be picking up by now, usually things slow down after new years.

jibaiban 12-22-2022 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23072218)
I'm once again ready to submit a report to CB support about some users who have been away and stopped spending for weeks now. Most of my biggest spenders are basically gone in the last 30+ days. The same thing happened last year, when the biggest whales were stolen by models. Will see what happens.

Hi,
Did the CB support reply you? I also have a ticket but haven't received a reply for more than two weeks...

mrmister 12-22-2022 09:39 AM

I'm still using roboscripts with one of my sites, I know that it can break at any time. Installing a cache plugin won't fuck the script up, will it?

Jesus H Christ 2.0 12-23-2022 05:31 AM

scary numbers in there.

vegasbobby 12-23-2022 09:45 AM

wow, sad numbers. what happen to the good old days.

mrmister 12-23-2022 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by vegasbobby (Post 23076330)
wow, sad numbers. what happen to the good old days.

Sky high inflation. Christmas time. Stock markets tumbling. High energy prices in Europe. A war in Ukraine. Rising interest rates. Possible recession

Pick one

I remember people saying " what happened to good old days " from 2010 onwards. Hindsight is great

Let's hope next year is better for economy

BettyBoob1 12-24-2022 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23072218)
I'm once again ready to submit a report to CB support about some users who have been away and stopped spending for weeks now. Most of my biggest spenders are basically gone in the last 30+ days. The same thing happened last year, when the biggest whales were stolen by models. Will see what happens.

You're post inspired me to submit 6 of my biggest spenders id's as a test, a couple of them have been missing in action for over 2 years and Chaturbate just emailed to inform me 4 of the 6 users created new accounts under a different referral URL.

I won't go into details about how much they credited to my account but it's a substantial amount. It's no wonder my monthly earnings have looked like shit the past couple of years. Now I need to go down a long list and submit more id's.

mrmister 12-24-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyBoob1 (Post 23076669)
You're post inspired me to submit 6 of my biggest spenders id's as a test, a couple of them have been missing in action for over 2 years and Chaturbate just emailed to inform me 4 of the 6 users created new accounts under a different referral URL.

I won't go into details about how much they credited to my account but it's a substantial amount. It's no wonder my monthly earnings have looked like shit the past couple of years. Now I need to go down a long list and submit more id's.

congrats. did you use cb-stats to find your users?

Colmike9 12-24-2022 09:43 AM

Would CB support reply if I sent a list of 10s of thousands of subscribers and see if any made new accounts, or do I have to do some of the work, too?.. :upsidedow
Still looking about normal on my end, too.

mrmister 12-24-2022 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmike9 (Post 23076687)
Would CB support reply if I sent a list of 10s of thousands of subscribers and see if any made new accounts, or do I have to do some of the work, too?.. :upsidedow
Still looking about normal on my end, too.

I think tens of thousands may be asking them to do a bit too much work :D

BettyBoob1 12-24-2022 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23076683)
congrats. did you use cb-stats to find your users?

Thanks mate.

I did indeed use cb-stats.com which was very helpful in allowing me to see who my biggest spenders were and how long they've been AWOL.

mrmister 12-27-2022 11:23 PM

I'm wondering if anyone can help

Just realised that the www version and non www version are indexed in Google webmaster tools. Usually with cl whitelabels the www version but a lot of my backlinks point to the non www.

Any advice? Obviously being a white label I can't set a canonical and I'm using cloudflare and it looks like 301 redirects are setup properly

Typing in http://domain redirects to https://www.domain so that looks okay but then why is Google indexing both?

RazorSharpe 12-27-2022 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23077902)
I'm wondering if anyone can help

Just realised that the www version and non www version are indexed in Google webmaster tools. Usually with cl whitelabels the www version but a lot of my backlinks point to the non www.

Any advice? Obviously being a white label I can't set a canonical and I'm using cloudflare and it looks like 301 redirects are setup properly

Typing in http://domain redirects to https://www.domain so that looks okay but then why is Google indexing both?

https://httpstatus.io/

I'd first check if your redirects are actually correct.

mrmister 12-27-2022 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 23077908)
https://httpstatus.io/

I'd first check if your redirects are actually correct.

Hmm it's showing two redirects

So a 301 from http to HTTPS://domain and then another to HTTPS://www.domain

Would a page rule bypassing that help?

RazorSharpe 12-28-2022 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23077909)
Hmm it's showing two redirects

So a 301 from http to HTTPS://domain and then another to HTTPS://www.domain

Would a page rule bypassing that help?

Just enter the naked domain name in the tool. So, domain.com
Check the canonical box.

You should see 4 results, typically. Three of the results will show 2 status codes, 301 and 200. The version of the domain you are redirecting other versions to will have a single status code of 200.

You should be 301 redirecting similar to this:
Code:

http://domain.com to https://domain.com
http://www.domain.com to https://domain.com
https://www.domain.com to https://domain.com

You don't want 2 redirect chains like you suggested.

mrmister 12-28-2022 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 23077910)
Just enter the naked domain name in the tool. So, domain.com
Check the canonical box.

You should see 4 results, typically. Three of the results will show 2 status codes, 301 and 200. The version of the domain you are redirecting other versions to will have a single status code of 200.

You should be 301 redirecting similar to this:
Website Domain Names, Online Stores & Hosting - Domain.com to https://domain.com
Website Domain Names, Online Stores & Hosting - Domain.com to https://domain.com
https://www.domain.com to https://domain.com

You don't want 2 redirect chains like you suggested.


Yeah only one of my white labels had 2 chains. The others were fine. I have backlinks pointing to http://domain rather than HTTPS://www.domain

Could that be the reason? I really can't think of anything else

drexl 12-28-2022 06:38 AM

Some of you have noticed a gradual loss in revenue. I don't think cb is at fault.

It is possible that browsers disabling third party cookies is the main cause. If you use the embed cam tool, you know that it plants a 3rd party cookie so that when the visitor clicks on it you get credit for bringing a new user to the system. With browsers such as Firefox or Safari third party cookies are blocked by default.

This comes as a problem in addition to the raising number of ad blocking tools. The immediate effect is a loss in counted traffic followed by less signups, and finally less $$ overtime.

Other affiliate programs which don't use third party cookies aren't affected. Most of them plant a cookie after the user clicks on the promo tool. CB popups wouldn't be affected by the cookie restriction either.

I may be wrong but I believe this is a fair assumption.

One partial fix to this would be to change the clickthrough link of the embed cam tool to include the affiliate cookie. Any thoughts?

PretjeNL 12-28-2022 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 23077955)
This comes as a problem in addition to the raising number of ad blocking tools. The immediate effect is a loss in counted traffic followed by less signups, and finally less $$ overtime.

That's also a point. For 2 weeks i use Ublock Origin in Chrome, i have a tube site with 5 banners to 5 of my cam sites, and i noticed that this adblocker is blocking 2 of the 5 banners.

Shoplifter 12-28-2022 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 23077955)
Some of you have noticed a gradual loss in revenue. I don't think cb is at fault.

It is possible that browsers disabling third party cookies is the main cause. Any thoughts?


Everyone using an Apple device has third party cookies blocked and any other identifying information removed by their Private Relay. This has been for about a year and a half now.

nikki99 12-29-2022 08:53 AM

I cannot check my stats until I verify my ID again :mad:

drexl 12-29-2022 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PretjeNL (Post 23078123)
That's also a point. For 2 weeks i use Ublock Origin in Chrome, i have a tube site with 5 banners to 5 of my cam sites, and i noticed that this adblocker is blocking 2 of the 5 banners.

A solution would be to use a whitelabel. It is unlikely that ad blockers have your domain listed.

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Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 23078137)
Everyone using an Apple device has third party cookies blocked and any other identifying information removed by their Private Relay. This has been for about a year and a half now.

Do you agree changing the click through would be helpful? Right now the iframe is planting a 3rd party cookie (which is blocked as dicussed) and the click through doesn't include an affiliate code, it is something like: chaturbate.com/modelusername

RazorSharpe 12-29-2022 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 23078404)
A solution would be to use a whitelabel. It is unlikely that ad blockers have your domain listed.



Do you agree changing the click through would be helpful? Right now the iframe is planting a 3rd party cookie (which is blocked as dicussed) and the click through doesn't include an affiliate code, it is something like: chaturbate.com/modelusername

Just use your whitelabel as the embed url. Yes, it's still a 3rd party cookie, but the click-through would go to your whitelabel.


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