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sarettah 06-16-2021 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22874981)

Just figured it out. My adblocker is blocking it.

Turned it off and there it was.

Thanks

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ianmoone332000 06-17-2021 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22874984)
Just figured it out. My adblocker is blocking it.

Turned it off and there it was.

Thanks

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Chaturbate replied to me saying they will deal with it.

Yeah Speigelau, models are seeing people spending alot of money so they basically try get them to delete their account and then resign up under her link so she gets the 20%. If thats an affiliate you sent over to Chaturbate, your gonna lose that money to her. We have been fighting it for ever it feels. Chaturbate could change a few things like tying the affiliate to you in other ways than a cookie and it wouldnt matter if they made another account, they would still be yours. Truth is Chaturbate just dont give a shit tbh

oce520 06-17-2021 08:56 AM

https://chaturbate.com/lulacum69/

another stealer, report time!

sarettah 06-17-2021 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by oce520 (Post 22875122)
https://chaturbate.com/lulacum69/

another stealer, report time!

I'm not seeing anything wrong on that one. She is asking people to sign up under her but she is not encouraging existing users to log out and create a new account.

Models are allowed to try to get sign ups. Her top sign up link even specifies "anonymous users" which would be people not logged into an account.

This text does not really go over the line in my opinion, it comes close but does not tell people to clear cookies or use a new browser and does not necessarilly target existing users.

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If you like me, and wanna make free gift, please USE THIS referral link for registration. You may stylize your username as K_(username) to join special “Kitty_members".
You will warm my ♥Kitty♥ when I see your name in the chat.
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drexl 06-18-2021 09:39 AM

Xpiya Anti Piracy - Fake DMCA Agent?
 
"Xpiya Anti Piracy" is filing DMCA notices against legit URLs including chaturbate themselves.

They do it on high volume models like sammyfloodxxx

I suspect it is an unscrupulous webmaster forcing the de-indexing of our pages to rank up at our expanse.

Colmike9 06-18-2021 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22875133)
I'm not seeing anything wrong on that one. She is asking people to sign up under her but she is not encouraging existing users to log out and create a new account.

Models are allowed to try to get sign ups. Her top sign up link even specifies "anonymous users" which would be people not logged into an account.

This text does not really go over the line in my opinion, it comes close but does not tell people to clear cookies or use a new browser and does not necessarilly target existing users.



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They're getting more clever with their ideas, though, and is getting old:

"If you like me, and wanna make free gift, please USE THIS referral link for registration. You may stylize your username as K_(username) to join special “Kitty_members".
You will warm my ♥Kitty♥ when I see your name in the chat."

It's basically telling them to sign up with a new username with a special K_ indicator for her 'kitty members', and is the same as directing to log out and sign up with that username to join her club, except that it isn't completely spelled out for them.

It could go under being 'incentive traffic', but I didn't see anything in the TOS that says not to do that, though..

Shedevils 06-18-2021 10:17 AM

Are the video feeds all down at the moment?

Colmike9 06-18-2021 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shedevils (Post 22875729)
Are the feeds all down at the moment?

Seem fine to me. I checked in the promo tools section and loaded an API site with no issues.

Speigelau 06-18-2021 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22875121)
Chaturbate replied to me saying they will deal with it.

Yeah Speigelau, models are seeing people spending alot of money so they basically try get them to delete their account and then resign up under her link so she gets the 20%. If thats an affiliate you sent over to Chaturbate, your gonna lose that money to her. We have been fighting it for ever it feels. Chaturbate could change a few things like tying the affiliate to you in other ways than a cookie and it wouldnt matter if they made another account, they would still be yours. Truth is Chaturbate just dont give a shit tbh

Yeah, I know its been an issue and seems like the last 2 years its gotten gradually worse as more and more models become aware of affiliate earnings and how they can get some extra revenue from spenders.

I just looked at my top ten all time CB spenders and they total a little over 700k in spends and only 3 of the 10 are still active, the rest haven't spent in over a year. I can speculate all day as to why those other 7 stopped spending, I'll never know. There's a multitude of possible reasons, but it wouldn't surprise me if one or two ended up ended up being taken away by models. I only promote via white label so there's no outbound
links and I have a better chance of retaining a spender on a re signup attempt.

gar 06-18-2021 10:44 PM

CB should change their affiliate term. Let the model monetize. End of the story.

MobileVRXXX 06-20-2021 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gar (Post 22876133)
CB should change their affiliate term. Let the model monetize. End of the story.

What do you even mean?

GoCastaway 06-20-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22876783)
What do you even mean?

I think only models that can make money and stop the affiliate program like we do :(

gar 06-21-2021 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22876783)
What do you even mean?

I read pages of whales stealing, models reporting, etc.

Just let models to do affiliate. If they can make people create new account or new sign up that's good for them and CB.

And what about affiliate marketers? If you can't make money out of this well then.

SBJ 06-21-2021 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by gar (Post 22877201)

Just let models to do affiliate. If they can make people create new account or new sign up that's good for them and CB.

It's stealing from the webmasters that work hard to bring them the fans. I can bring new members all the time but it's not fair for her to be able to tell him if he signs up under her account she will do something extra for him. It makes webmasters want to push CB less when we know the big spenders are being stolen from us :2 cents:

drexl 06-21-2021 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gar (Post 22877201)
I read pages of whales stealing, models reporting, etc.

Just let models to do affiliate. If they can make people create new account or new sign up that's good for them and CB.

And what about affiliate marketers? If you can't make money out of this well then.

Dude, models already participate in the affiliates program. It's already in the terms.

You made your first sale 2 months ago which makes me think that most webmasters here are more experienced than you are.

You're probably not aware of the many years of struggle some of the webmasters had, for example aff links have been relatively recently disabled on whitelabels, they were causing leaks.

As per the re-sign up issue this is just a fraudulent practice. Webmasters work hard to generate traffic and there are operational costs as well (server, domain, scripts, expertise, ..)

GoCastaway 06-21-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22877379)
Dude, models already participate in the affiliates program. It's already in the terms.

You made your first sale 2 months ago which makes me think that most webmasters here are more experienced than you are.

You're probably not aware of the many years of struggle some of the webmasters had, for example aff links have been relatively recently disabled on whitelabels, they were causing leaks.

As per the re-sign up issue this is just a fraudulent practice. Webmasters work hard to generate traffic and there are operational costs as well (server, domain, scripts, expertise, ..)

Totally agree!

gar 06-21-2021 10:29 AM

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Dude, models already participate in the affiliates program. It's already in the terms.
Sorry, I thought they have a different terms for models.

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You made your first sale 2 months ago which makes me think that most webmasters here are more experienced than you are.
I didn't even make a sale yet, just a sign up. :1orglaugh

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You're probably not aware of the many years of struggle some of the webmasters had, for example aff links have been relatively recently disabled on whitelabels, they were causing leaks.
I didn't know.

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As per the re-sign up issue this is just a fraudulent practice. Webmasters work hard to generate traffic and there are operational costs as well (server, domain, scripts, expertise, ..)
As I said, oh well.

I bet someone had found a solution to this "fraudulent practice" already.

MobileVRXXX 06-22-2021 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gar (Post 22877424)
Sorry, I thought they have a different terms for models.



I didn't even make a sale yet, just a sign up. :1orglaugh



I didn't know.



As I said, oh well.

I bet someone had found a solution to this "fraudulent practice" already.

The solution is for CB to BAN all models asking for this.

They ban models from time to time but they should be far stricter and it will go a long way.

Basically the models believe they are doing all the work and they don't give a shit we spend years building up traffic, we spend money and they are the ones actually using our hard work to make more money. When we are getting our fair share it is OK.

I want the models I promote to be better, to make more money cause It will be good for both of us, but when they start asking to get our 20% as well it`s the time it is getting ridiculous.

The sad part is CB allows them to link to their social media and even competitor websites like (Only Fans) thus leaking traffic/money from themselves. No one seems to understand why, but I guess it will come a time they will simply cut this off or they`ll simply fade away and start making less and less money.

drexl 06-22-2021 06:09 AM

Models benefit from webmasters indirectly: we bring in traffic to the platform they use thus helping to build up the customers base. By doing that we even help them advertise their third party offers (OF, ManyVids, ...) which we don't even get a cut for.

GoCastaway 06-26-2021 02:59 PM

New on Chaturbate!
We play a sort of Hentai movie, or make a cartoon from yourself.

Also changing header color and a wide banner hiding your WL log, just like Hannahjames710 is doing, reported several times but still the same....

https://i.imgur.com/rioqJkm.jpg

sarettah 06-26-2021 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22880139)
New on Chaturbate!
We play a sort of Hentai movie, or make a cartoon from yourself.

Also changing header color and a wide banner hiding your WL log, just like Hannahjames710 is doing, reported several times but still the same....

Projectmelody has been there for a while. I have never seen anything she has up blocking anything on my whitelabels, they might have changed something up recently.

I don't think chaturbate has a rule against showing recordings. They mention that models can show recordings and videos that they have rights to. In the api they also have a field designating whether the show is live or recorded.

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GoCastaway 06-27-2021 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22880149)
Projectmelody has been there for a while. I have never seen anything she has up blocking anything on my whitelabels, they might have changed something up recently.

I don't think chaturbate has a rule against showing recordings. They mention that models can show recordings and videos that they have rights to. In the api they also have a field designating whether the show is live or recorded.

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Well, i know Melody, she's from 2019 and original made by DigitrevX, but never seen her before on CB while she is broadcasting from February 2021.

I doubt that it's legal on CB to show recordings, but out of that she is changing header colors and hiding name/logo from Whitelabels like more models.

Speigelau 06-27-2021 02:14 AM

https://chaturbate.com/peachycat/

First time I've seen a clickable video overlay banner with her affiliate link. Also a banner covering the top navigation. If models start covering their video with affiliate banners things will really get much worse.

On a positive note, she doesn't even show up on my white label which means she must have opted out, probably trying to avoid being reported.

GoCastaway 06-27-2021 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22880292)
https://chaturbate.com/peachycat/

First time I've seen a clickable video overlay banner with her affiliate link. Also a banner covering the top navigation. If models start covering their video with affiliate banners things will really get much worse.

On a positive note, she doesn't even show up on my white label which means she must have opted out, probably trying to avoid being reported.

It's going to be worse and worse...

I alrdy said before, CB must set strict rules like other sites and maintain these rules.

Probably she opt out from WL's, i can't see her also on my WL's

sarettah 06-27-2021 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22880286)
Well, i know Melody, she's from 2019 and original made by DigitrevX, but never seen her before on CB while she is broadcasting from February 2021.

I doubt that it's legal on CB to show recordings, but out of that she is changing header colors and hiding name/logo from Whitelabels like more models.

She has been on chaturbate since Feb 2020.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projekt_Melody

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Projekt Melody hosted her first stream on Chaturbate on February 7, 2020.
As for the recordings,, you are right that CB does not allow recordings in place of live streams (my bad there) but they do have an exception for stuff like Projektmelody if approved by CB.

https://chaturbate.com/terms/appendix-c/

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Live streaming or broadcasting recorded content (or any other type of non-interactive content) is not permitted. You may only share recorded video through your bio/profile page. Independent Broadcasters may, upon concept review by our support team, utilize cartoons, avatars, and other interactive digitally created images provided that such cartoons, avatars, or images comply with this Code of Conduct as well as the Terms.
I still have not seen what her page looks like on a whitelabel these days. The changing of the colors does not really bother me much.

If they are covering the whitelabel logo like you say that would be bad but still not as bad as covering up the sign up button.

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GoCastaway 06-27-2021 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22880312)
She has been on chaturbate since Feb 2020.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projekt_Melody



As for the recordings,, you are right that CB does not allow recordings in place of live streams (my bad there) but they do have an exception for stuff like Projektmelody if approved by CB.

https://chaturbate.com/terms/appendix-c/



I still have not seen what her page looks like on a whitelabel these days. The changing of the colors does not really bother me much.

If they are covering the whitelabel logo like you say that would be bad but still not as bad as covering up the sign up button.

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Ok, in her BIO it says from February 2021...

Changing the header colors is bad, because it's a overlay. you don't have the real colors of your header AND logo anymore, and if they cover the logo with a wide banner then the logo is totally gone, The screenshot above is from one of my WL's, so logo gone. The same is done by Hannahjames710

Last time i don't see anymore that models cover the signup button, but you can't check all models ofcourse, you have to see it accidentally

sarettah 06-27-2021 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22880315)
Changing the header colors is bad, because it's a overlay. you don't have the real colors of your header AND logo anymore, and if they cover the logo with a wide banner then the logo is totally gone, The screenshot above is from one of my WL's, so logo gone. The same is done by Hannahjames710

Ok, I was confused on that. I didn't realize it was your whitelabel. So, they are putting the Chaturbate logo up in the corner over your logo? That is what was confusing me. I thought it was from Chaturbate not from the whitelabel (even though you were talking about the wl).

Yeah, that's not good at all.


https://i.imgur.com/rioqJkm.jpg

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GoCastaway 06-27-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22880320)
Ok, I was confused on that. I didn't realize it was your whitelabel. So, they are putting the Chaturbate logo up in the corner over your logo? That is what was confusing me. I thought it was from Chaturbate not from the whitelabel (even though you were talking about the wl).

Yeah, that's not good at all.


https://i.imgur.com/rioqJkm.jpg

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That's exactly what they do...

Reported several times to CB but it's still the same, and there are more with this logo covering :mad:

Shoplifter 06-27-2021 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22880417)
That's exactly what they do...

Reported several times to CB but it's still the same, and there are more with this logo covering :mad:

And if you look at these pages on an iPad where the girls re-color the header it accidentally overwrites the signup button so that it is not visible at all.

DBS.US 06-27-2021 03:17 PM

Check out this girls page with your white label site

https://YourWhiteLable.chaturbate.com/sapphirealice/

itx 06-27-2021 07:22 PM

Check this model too on your whitelabel https://chaturbate.com/ramonatorres_/ logo and signup hidden (this last one even on CB) and bypassing the filters on the whitelabels, so she can get the user credit if someone signup from her banner.

sarettah 06-27-2021 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 22880601)
Check out this girls page with your white label site

https://YourWhiteLable.chaturbate.com/sapphirealice/

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Originally Posted by itx (Post 22880742)
Check this model too on your whitelabel https://chaturbate.com/ramonatorres_/ logo and signup hidden (this last one even on CB) and bypassing the filters on the whitelabels, so she can get the user credit if someone signup from her banner.

Report it.

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Cucik 06-28-2021 09:21 AM

I know it's early, but I expected at least one sign up :(

https://ibb.co/FnxX5KM

sarettah 06-29-2021 04:22 PM

Just got this back from support in response to one of my emails reporting stuff, thought I would pass it on.

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Tech Support (Chaturbate)
Jun 29, 2021, 18:09 EDT

Thank you for reporting this. We recommend using the 'report room' function for any other rooms you encounter with customization like this. Please let us know if you have additional questions.

Thank you,

The Chaturbate Team
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GoCastaway 06-30-2021 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22881855)
Just got this back from support in response to one of my emails reporting stuff, thought I would pass it on.
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Wow, you got reply... I can't find projektmelody anymore, but hannahjames710 is still there with her banner, headercolor change and movie playing.

Maybe i am blind, but can't find the 'report room' function, where does it suppose to be?

sarettah 06-30-2021 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22882063)
Wow, you got reply... I can't find projektmelody anymore, but hannahjames710 is still there with her banner, headercolor change and movie playing.

Maybe i am blind, but can't find the 'report room' function, where does it suppose to be?

Projektmelody is still there, just not showing her profile when offline. The page shows cams but her colors and her logo are still at top.

As far as the report button, I have to assume they mean the "report abuse" link at the top of the cam room. I don't think it is there on mobile, only desktop.

Doesn't seem right to do it that way, plus the link is not there when the model is not on line.

I hadn't looked yesterday, got the reply, posted it and went back to coding. Looked at it this morning after you asked.

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GoCastaway 06-30-2021 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22882087)
Projektmelody is still there, just not showing her profile when offline. The page shows cams but her colors and her logo are still at top.

As far as the report button, I have to assume they mean the "report abuse" link at the top of the cam room. I don't think it is there on mobile, only desktop.

Doesn't seem right to do it that way, plus the link is not there when the model is not on line.

I hadn't looked yesterday, got the reply, posted it and went back to coding. Looked at it this morning after you asked.

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That's why i didn't found projektmelody, will keep an eye on that.

I also don't think it's the right way to report, but as CB it says then just report this way, maybe that will work instead of sending report mails to affiliates or support.

Thanks!

itx 06-30-2021 09:38 PM

Check this model https://chaturbate.com/emilygrey_/ her banner "click here to make a free account" is visible on the whitelabels bypassing the filters, pretty shady, I send a report.

GoCastaway 06-30-2021 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by itx (Post 22882439)
Check this model https://chaturbate.com/emilygrey_/ her banner "click here to make a free account" is visible on the whitelabels bypassing the filters, pretty shady, I send a report.

Reported her too, and used the "Report abuse" button like CB told to Sarettah.

Insane that they now even bypass the WL button block :mad:

drexl 07-01-2021 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22882452)
Reported her too, and used the "Report abuse" button like CB told to Sarettah.

Insane that they now even bypass the WL button block :mad:

The block doesn't work with URL shortners. The good thing is chaturbate treats those as third-party links so it adds a 20 seconds delay, even if the final landing page is on chaturbate.


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