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cezar78 02-23-2021 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pornuploader (Post 22825008)
I've always been against those theories that believe Chaturbate shave the users revenues but this time I have the felling that something unusual happened after last CB update, Since that day everything has gone down, even my earning, Maybe they started to shave, It seems I'm wasting my traffic.

Same here. February is terrible. None of my 15 spenders spend money this month. In January i had commissions almost everyday. Wierd. I spent 2 years on cb promotion but it is time to switch to another project. I'm tired of this crap. Don't have money for my bills this month

xxx6live 02-23-2021 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22825676)
How much extra signup buttons you need...?

https://i.imgur.com/1U3pwol.jpg

Strange, but in this case the links does not have any affiliate code as far as I can see. So you get the signup if you sent someone there.

drexl 02-23-2021 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Holy Damage (Post 22825672)
You guys send counter notices even when she/her "agent" is asking for a removal on just her page?
For sample: xxx.com/chaturbate/somemodel

Yes :thumbsup

drexl 02-23-2021 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by xxx6live (Post 22825693)
Strange, but in this case the links does not have any affiliate code as far as I can see. So you get the signup if you sent someone there.

I disagree. The affiliate code is the value for the "campaign" parameter in the query string. It shows up when you hover over the buttons.

The first cookie wins so the referring webmaster still gets it however those models are sort of "stuffing" with their own cookies. Affiliate marketing is about driving traffic, not fishing with a giant net.

By the way: is it still the case that first cookie wins? If not then there is a major issue.

GoCastaway 02-23-2021 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22825697)
I disagree. The affiliate code is the value for the "campaign" parameter in the query string. It shows up when you hover over the buttons.

The first cookie wins so the referring webmaster still gets it however those models are sort of "stuffing" with their own cookies. Affiliate marketing is about driving traffic, not fishing with a giant net.

By the way: is it still the case that first cookie wins? If not then there is a major issue.

Yep, you see it when hovering over the buttons.

Sometimes i have the feeling the cookies are not working like that anymore...

3xmedia 02-23-2021 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cezar78 (Post 22825682)
Same here. February is terrible. None of my 15 spenders spend money this month. In January i had commissions almost everyday. Wierd. I spent 2 years on cb promotion but it is time to switch to another project. I'm tired of this crap. Don't have money for my bills this month

relying on single program to pay your bills is quite risky :2 cents:

ianmoone332000 02-23-2021 04:52 AM

Yeah 2 periods ago i finally got back to around "normal earnings". Last period that halved. This period looks like its worse so far. This just seems to be the cycle nowadays for me. Its crazy the amount of webmasters on this forum sending massive levels of people to Chaturbate and they do not have a rep here helping. I messaged them about my earnings and also the redirecting to homepage but no reply yet

zerovic 02-23-2021 05:37 AM

Dunno, like I said a few posts back.. February started pretty bad for me as well. I'm almost at $2k in revenue since then. Not my best month, but I can live with that. Work never stops, I'm working on new ways to get more signups as I only got 17 free users / 6 new spenders this month. We'll see what happens in a few months.

sarettah 02-23-2021 06:25 AM

My signups have about stopped :( Not sure what is up with that. Trying to figure out some new tricks.

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drexl 02-23-2021 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22825742)
My signups have about stopped :( Not sure what is up with that. Trying to figure out some new tricks.

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Same here dude

zhenyoung 02-23-2021 08:34 AM

"6 new spenders this month"

i think it is very good!

pornuploader 02-23-2021 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cezar78 (Post 22825682)
Same here. February is terrible. None of my 15 spenders spend money this month. In January i had commissions almost everyday. Wierd. I spent 2 years on cb promotion but it is time to switch to another project. I'm tired of this crap. Don't have money for my bills this month

I am looking for a replace as well, I'm pretty sure they changed something after updating their platform, Last month my stats was terrific, I got so many free signups with many new spenders, but everything suddenly stopped, I'm shocked now, Either they started to shave or embed links don't work anymore.

zhenyoung 02-23-2021 10:30 AM

"6 new spenders this month"

i think it is very good!

GoCastaway 02-23-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22825768)
Same here dude

what a "coincidence", hits here again down too like 75%

drexl 02-23-2021 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22825381)
Yes, International Network can be anyone...

On a side note, if cb wanted to really help models, it would be easy to read the campaign id off of offending websites and close their affiliate account for breach of the terms.

That would get rid of 99% of those erroneous take down notices and there would be no need for those shitty companies like International Network.

But cb doesn't do this...

GoCastaway 02-23-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22825870)
On a side note, if cb wanted to really help models, it would be easy to read the campaign id off of offending websites and close their affiliate account for breach of the terms.

That would get rid of 99% of those erroneous take down notices and there would be no need for those shitty companies like International Network.

But cb doesn't do this...

Looks like CB only take care of the models, they can do much more the the affiliates, we affiliates comes at place 2 with a big distance

PornGrowsOnTrees 02-23-2021 01:55 PM

My revshare is down big time this period.

Shoplifter 02-23-2021 03:09 PM

Signups and revshare way down as compared to even the same period last month.

This seems a similar situation as the Feb 1-15 and Feb 16-29 periods last year where the stats were off.

MobileVRXXX 02-24-2021 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 22825733)
Dunno, like I said a few posts back.. February started pretty bad for me as well. I'm almost at $2k in revenue since then. Not my best month, but I can live with that. Work never stops, I'm working on new ways to get more signups as I only got 17 free users / 6 new spenders this month. We'll see what happens in a few months.

Dude this is massive. 17 free sign ups and 6 spenders is insane ratio.

I have 1800 new sign up until today and 18 new spenders...

That is an awesome RATE

zerovic 02-24-2021 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22826037)
Dude this is massive. 17 free sign ups and 6 spenders is insane ratio.

I have 1800 new sign up until today and 18 new spenders...

That is an awesome RATE

Thanks. Well, not all people spend tons of cash sadly. However, in my experience, if a new user starts spending right away, it's most likely to become a long term spender. I have a guy who spends regularly, but the revenue is around $2.20 per money spent. He's been active since 2016 I guess. Spends 2-3-4 times a week, but the revenue is always the same.. $2.20 :)

MobileVRXXX 02-24-2021 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 22826051)
Thanks. Well, not all people spend tons of cash sadly. However, in my experience, if a new user starts spending right away, it's most likely to become a long term spender. I have a guy who spends regularly, but the revenue is around $2.20 per money spent. He's been active since 2016 I guess. Spends 2-3-4 times a week, but the revenue is always the same.. $2.20 :)

I mean what are you doing to get 35% of your new sign ups to get to spent.

My average is 2100 sign ups and 30 spenders per month.

Which is 1,4% :)

Shedevils 02-24-2021 03:25 PM

Anyone else have stat count issues yesterday and today?

My unique count is about 30% off.

Shedevils 02-24-2021 03:26 PM

Double post pls delete

pornuploader 02-24-2021 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shedevils (Post 22826359)
Anyone else have stat count issues yesterday and today?

My unique count is about 30% off.

Both hits and free sign ups have dropped since two weeks ago (Feb. 11)

drexl 02-25-2021 02:29 AM

International Network - scam?
 
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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22825305)
Sender: International Network
Jurisdictions: CO


Concerns about them:


- they file against legit material, ie: promotools licensed by cam sponsors.

- they file notices that are unrelated to the URLs they include in the report. For example they file a notice for model M1 of Chaturbate and in the list of presumed offending URLs it shows: M2 of StripChat, M3 of StripChat , ...etc ...

- they are inconsiderate: they also add generic URLs thus de-indexing entire pages such as "[domain]/tags/livecams"


Also: can they be competitors who want to get an unfair advantage by de-indexing other webmasters? I find strange that some cam sites don't seem to be affected by those "agents".

moniq1000 02-25-2021 02:30 AM

I get more free registration with some sites and investors to

GoCastaway 02-25-2021 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22826540)
Concerns about them:


- they file against legit material, ie: promotools licensed by cam sponsors.

- they file notices that are unrelated to the URLs they include in the report. For example they file a notice for model M1 of Chaturbate and in the list of presumed offending URLs it shows: M2 of StripChat, M3 of StripChat , ...etc ...

- they are inconsiderate: they also add generic URLs thus de-indexing entire pages such as "[domain]/tags/livecams"


Also: can they be competitors who want to get an unfair advantage by de-indexing other webmasters? I find strange that some cam sites don't seem to be affected by those "agents".

Imo, they are just playing a dirty game

GoCastaway 02-25-2021 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22826540)
Concerns about them:


- they file against legit material, ie: promotools licensed by cam sponsors.

- they file notices that are unrelated to the URLs they include in the report. For example they file a notice for model M1 of Chaturbate and in the list of presumed offending URLs it shows: M2 of StripChat, M3 of StripChat , ...etc ...

- they are inconsiderate: they also add generic URLs thus de-indexing entire pages such as "[domain]/tags/livecams"


Also: can they be competitors who want to get an unfair advantage by de-indexing other webmasters? I find strange that some cam sites don't seem to be affected by those "agents".

Just got reply from Google:

As described in 17 U.S.C. 512(g), we will forward the counter notification to the complainant. If we do not receive notice that the complainant has brought a court action within 10 business days, we will reinstate the material in question.

drexl 02-25-2021 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22826569)
Just got reply from Google:

As described in 17 U.S.C. 512(g), we will forward the counter notification to the complainant. If we do not receive notice that the complainant has brought a court action within 10 business days, we will reinstate the material in question.

Good. At least your url will be re-indexed in 2 weeks.

I consider their practice abusive or, at the very least, flaky and erroneous.

I was unable to find an official website / company registration or contact of any kind regarding this "agent".

GoCastaway 02-25-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22826622)
Good. At least your url will be re-indexed in 2 weeks.

I consider their practice abusive or, at the very least, flaky and erroneous.

I was unable to find an official website / company registration or contact of any kind regarding this "agent".

It's not already removed, can still find the domain on Google. They announced that it would be removed in 2 weeks if i did't respond.

I also could not find anything about that "company" :(

kingtom2020 02-25-2021 01:19 PM

ok so after I emailed Chaturbate asking why have all my big spenders vanished here is the reply 2 week later.


Support (Chaturbate)

Thank you for reaching out. On review of your affiliate linkcodes we're confirming that there is not an issue with the tracking code system.

Thank you,
The Chaturbate Team


Translated into English - We do not care about the affiliates.

TurboB 02-25-2021 03:17 PM

I am waiting for the same answer from support - where are now my 7 out of 10 biggest spenders after spending thousands.

GoCastaway 02-25-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Smeklinis (Post 22826828)
I am waiting for the same answer from support - where are now my 7 out of 10 biggest spenders after spending thousands.

probably to a new account created under the affid of a model :(

MobileVRXXX 02-25-2021 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22826833)
probably to a new account created under the affid of a model :(

Well not always the case and I don't even believe it is the majority of the time.

Why? Because I have had thousands of affiliates on gambling website and now have over 40 000 on chaturbate.

At a given time people decide to call it a day, after spending 50 000$ on cams maybe they decide it`s better to spend this money elsewhere. Maybe they got a new GF, maybe they switched websites.

From my Top 30 spenders in June, only 11 are currently active, I have 4 new that have entered my Top 15 list, I am not happy because sending 40 000 people and having 400 spenders and 95 currently active is not my dream scenario but that`s the game.

Speigelau 02-25-2021 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingtom2020 (Post 22826788)
ok so after I emailed Chaturbate asking why have all my big spenders vanished here is the reply 2 week later.


Support (Chaturbate)

Thank you for reaching out. On review of your affiliate linkcodes we're confirming that there is not an issue with the tracking code system.

Thank you,
The Chaturbate Team


Translated into English - We do not care about the affiliates.

While I get that their answer didn't really address your concerns, how can they possibly know why a certain user stops spending?

Shoplifter 02-25-2021 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22826843)
While I get that their answer didn't really address your concerns, how can they possibly know why a certain user stops spending?

Ever since they backtraced a spender and adjusted a payout the consequences will never be the same. I imagine half the people in this thread have emailed support.

I can't see any way they could ever move a spender from a performer back to an affiliate without holy hell breaking loose. I could only imagine the shitstorm the girls would raise on Twitter etc.

Colmike9 02-25-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 22826850)
Ever since they backtraced a spender and adjusted a payout the consequences will never be the same. I imagine half the people in this thread have emailed support.

I can't see any way they could ever move a spender from a performer back to an affiliate without holy hell breaking loose. I could only imagine the shitstorm the girls would raise on Twitter etc.

They should do it for all accounts, though. There are also a lot of accounts still doing this, and it's going to cause a lot more trouble for CB in the long run if they don't fix it. Like, not allowing html/css except for basics in the profile area could help. (This is how Myspace died, btw...)

Edit: I might be replying to something else, I meant the whole thing with models telling surfers to create new accounts and the affiliate links up top to make them an extra 20%..

Shoplifter 02-25-2021 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike9 (Post 22826856)
They should do it for all accounts, though. There are also a lot of accounts still doing this, and it's going to cause a lot more trouble for CB in the long run if they don't fix it. Like, not allowing html/css except for basics in the profile area could help. (This is how Myspace died, btw...)

I completely agree that it should be set straight for affiliates and then a technical solution implemented so that spenders cannot be moved between accounts.

Chaturbate is the leader in cams, and that this can happen is weirdly incongruous.

The thing that will eventually stop the links in profiles will be the revenue loss to other sites. They must be losing a fortune to Onlyfans etc.

MobileVRXXX 02-25-2021 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 22826862)
I completely agree that it should be set straight for affiliates and then a technical solution implemented so that spenders cannot be moved between accounts.

Chaturbate is the leader in cams, and that this can happen is weirdly incongruous.

The thing that will eventually stop the links in profiles will be the revenue loss to other sites. They must be losing a fortune to Onlyfans etc.

Not only money... They are losing the models as well. Imagine having 250 000 subscribers and not being able to tell them you are moving to OF...

I guess by the end of this year they`ll get rid of the links just like most websites if they don't we might see the beginning of the end for CB.

P.S Why the hell OF don't have an affiliate program is beyond me

seriouslee 02-26-2021 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22826896)
Not only money... They are losing the models as well. Imagine having 250 000 subscribers and not being able to tell them you are moving to OF...

The real question is why cb never developed their own clip and content on site solution. For content heavy models cb just does not any competitive offer at all.


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