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drexl 03-31-2020 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22634816)

Good list!

Clara Chan is a repeat offender. Although cb, for some reasons, insists affiliate links are allowed on the site itself, she is in breach when she asks members to create a new username in her bio. (HeyHorny_cb is the same).

I see she now has a banner that takes 100% of the screen so you really can't miss it and the list of c_ members is growing.

=> affiliate links are for bringing in traffic! Planting links on the destination site is not affiliate marketing.

heiko0o 03-31-2020 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22637979)
=> affiliate links are for bringing in traffic! Planting links on the destination site is not affiliate marketing.

damn right!. It's called "stealing"

oce520 03-31-2020 06:24 AM

have any of you got an respond from cb yet after the report??

drexl 03-31-2020 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by oce520 (Post 22638098)
have any of you got an respond from cb yet after the report??

I reported heyhorny_cb who's fishing net was covering the main site logo with 2 layers (ah sure why not...). They replied they were going to "look into it". As a result the broadcaster has moved the banner away from the logo and just right beside the "Sign Up" button (ah sure why not ...).

There is still an enticement to create a new username (it is explicitly written on the banner: "NEW username") which is bad practice and impacting everyone (affiliate broadcasters, cb, ..) but I can't spend all day long playing that game of cat and mouse.

OneMillionGirls 03-31-2020 08:53 AM

What was your most successful Linking code Tour-name in 2020 for cb?

ianmoone332000 03-31-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by oce520 (Post 22638098)
have any of you got an respond from cb yet after the report??

Did you report them too?

oce520 03-31-2020 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22638561)
Did you report them too?

I have, but I haven’t seen any change yet. Chan used to have banner telling viewers to sign up new account now she do it with text after the banner was removed, hows that any different?

Is there anyone we can communicate with after Steve is gone?

ianmoone332000 04-01-2020 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by oce520 (Post 22638673)
I have, but I haven’t seen any change yet. Chan used to have banner telling viewers to sign up new account now she do it with text after the banner was removed, hows that any different?

Is there anyone we can communicate with after Steve is gone?

Good stuff

Brian mike 04-01-2020 05:55 AM

Last period just finished sales are up and sign up is on the up too :thumbsup

Hopefully this upswing will last :1orglaugh

GoCastaway 04-01-2020 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22638851)
Last period just finished sales are up and sign up is on the up too :thumbsup

Hopefully this upswing will last :1orglaugh

Lucky you :thumbsup

Here last 2 months a lot down and have not seen half of my spenders that 2 months, so i think they are "stolen" from me by that nasty models with their anoying new signup banner/buttons etc :mad:

oce520 04-01-2020 06:09 AM

theres a thread about models stealing on blackhatworld too, if you guys want to join the discussion link here: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/so...aters.1089371/

we have to raise this issues on other affiliate forum, maybe CB would make change if more people are aware and talk about it.

oce520 04-01-2020 07:28 AM

https://chaturbate.com/_foxy

she just put her affiliate link out and ask viewers to create new account

drexl 04-01-2020 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by oce520 (Post 22638860)
theres a thread about models stealing on blackhatworld too, if you guys want to join the discussion link here: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/so...aters.1089371/

we have to raise this issues on other affiliate forum, maybe CB would make change if more people are aware and talk about it.

Interesting :thumbsup

They seem to think that whitelabels and first cookie rule protect them which is wrong in both instances as I explained many times over already. And then there's the "change username" trick.

I don't know if you remember but I had a CSS rule that was precisely targeting affiliate links (using a regular expression) so that all outgoing links remained up and running but only those disgusting fishing nets were made unclickable and hidden.

Well, shortly after I posted the tip here, chaturbate added a filter so that this particular CSS rule was not allowed. It is clear to me that cb want models to continue this , there is just no official statement.

This is corroborated by the fact that nobody is getting a straight answer, even when Steve was here he was saying: contact support. Then support replies with a template: we'll investigate.

Did anyone meet with them in person to discuss this and see how they take it, maybe at a webmaster or model conference? We must be the laughing stock of a lot of people if I judge by the comments of some here (ex: use of the word "cry" to describe our rant, and other pop corn GIF as if our inability to find a solution was laughing matter.)

heiko0o 04-01-2020 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22638908)
Interesting :thumbsup

They seem to think that whitelabels and first cookie rule protect them which is wrong in both instances as I explained many times over already. And then there's the "change username" trick.

I don't know if you remember but I had a CSS rule that was precisely targeting affiliate links (using a regular expression) so that all outgoing links remained up and running but only those disgusting fishing nets were made unclickable and hidden.

Well, shortly after I posted the tip here, chaturbate added a filter so that this particular CSS rule was not allowed. It is clear to me that cb want models to continue this , there is just no official statement.

This is corroborated by the fact that nobody is getting a straight answer, even when Steve was here he was saying: contact support. Then support replies with a template: we'll investigate.

Did anyone meet with them in person to discuss this and see how they take it, maybe at a webmaster or model conference? We must be the laughing stock of a lot of people if I judge by the comments of some here (ex: use of the word "cry" to describe our rant, and other pop corn GIF as if our inability to find a solution was laughing matter.)

Wondering the same. I am pretty sure they would tell you the same, that they are working on it and take a look into the case. Clara_Chan has been reported several times now and she still has this signature where she encourages people to sign up under her username. I think if someone has been caught doing this then the person should only get 1 more warning before a temporary ban or something.

I am not sure in particular why they removed the ability to insert your CSS Code but it sure does not help anyone either, other than the models. I can't seem to understand why Chaturbate would care. They get their share, as when a model makes a lead and when a webmaster makes a lead. I think sometimes they (both CB and the models) forget how valueable Webmasters really are for their website. For sure, Chaturbate has a lot of organic traffic itself too, but the webmasters do their work as well.

By the way: Nice Wishlist :) https://chaturbate.com/siswet19/

GoCastaway 04-01-2020 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22638908)
Well, shortly after I posted the tip here, chaturbate added a filter so that this particular CSS rule was not allowed. It is clear to me that cb want models to continue this , there is just no official statement.

Yep, i had that rule too... Its what you say, the models can do everything and we are cut off.

Let's take a look at BlackHat :pimp

OneMillionGirls 04-01-2020 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by heiko0o (Post 22638931)

By the way: Nice Wishlist :) https://chaturbate.com/siswet19/

Interesting shizzle

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Shedevils 04-01-2020 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22639017)

Let's take a look at BlackHat :pimp

No one cares about the discussion on Blackhat or GFY. Try Twitter.

drexl 04-01-2020 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shedevils (Post 22639193)
No one cares about the discussion on Blackhat or GFY. Try Twitter.

We need to think about what it is we're trying to achieve. We can assume cb already knows.
We can also assume webmasters know, given the size of this thread.

By amplifying and spreading this further, we could have it backfire at us and have more broadcasters joining the party. Some of them already know about the flaw by reading this thread themselves (with a grin), others are being made aware by unscrupulous webmasters etc ...

I'm not saying Twitter or BH are bad ideas. I am just adding some food for thoughts.

Talking about Twitter, I have never had a single like, retweet or follow back in 4 years by the Chaturbate main account. If you look at their timeline, they RT broadcasters affiliate links no prb. That's another indication.

PornGrowsOnTrees 04-01-2020 03:26 PM

definitely increase of traffic and free leads for me.

How is everything doing money wise right now? I'm looking at people going to tipping page and some users go there and seem to be hesitating.

some money coming through though. april will be a very interesting month to watch. Hope we all BANK!

foz 04-02-2020 12:34 AM

<iframe src="https://chaturbate.com/in/?track=embedtube&tour=CoeM&campaign=XXXXXX&disable _sound=1&mobileRedirect=auto&embed_video_only=1" height="250px" width="300px" frameborder="0" class="code" scrolling="no"></iframe>

at some point I had the iframe open in a new window. But now I can not remember how I did it. Any ideas ?

drexl 04-02-2020 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by foz (Post 22639480)
<iframe src="https://chaturbate.com/in/?track=embedtube&tour=CoeM&campaign=XXXXXX&disable _sound=1&mobileRedirect=auto&embed_video_only=1" height="250px" width="300px" frameborder="0" class="code" scrolling="no"></iframe>

at some point I had the iframe open in a new window. But now I can not remember how I did it. Any ideas ?

add this to the querystring of the src parameter: &target=_blank

GoCastaway 04-02-2020 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22639492)
add this to the querystring of the src parameter: &target=_blank

target="_blank"

drexl 04-02-2020 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22639508)
target="_blank"

I mean this:

<iframe src="https://chaturbate.com/in/?track=embedtube&tour=CoeM&campaign=XXXXXX&disable _sound=1&target=_blank&mobileRedirect=auto&embed_video_only=1" height="250px" width="300px" frameborder="0" class="code" scrolling="no"></iframe>


target="_blank" would work in an anchor tag (a href) but I don't think it will open a new window if placed in an iframe like so:

<iframe target="_blank" src="https://chaturbate.com/in/?track=embedtube&tour=CoeM&campaign=XXXXXX&disable _sound=1&mobileRedirect=auto&embed_video_only=1" height="250px" width="300px" frameborder="0" class="code" scrolling="no"></iframe>

GoCastaway 04-02-2020 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22639694)
I mean this:

<iframe src="https://chaturbate.com/in/?track=embedtube&tour=CoeM&campaign=XXXXXX&disable _sound=1&target=_blank&mobileRedirect=auto&embed_video_only=1" height="250px" width="300px" frameborder="0" class="code" scrolling="no"></iframe>


target="_blank" would work in an anchor tag (a href) but I don't think it will open a new window if placed in an iframe like so:

<iframe target="_blank" src="https://chaturbate.com/in/?track=embedtube&tour=CoeM&campaign=XXXXXX&disable _sound=1&mobileRedirect=auto&embed_video_only=1" height="250px" width="300px" frameborder="0" class="code" scrolling="no"></iframe>

You are right, with "" it's A HREF :thumbsup My bad...

xpreggo 04-02-2020 10:14 AM

check out these two they have a huge image on top of their chat room for signing up

chaturbate.com/robxxxrider/

https://i.imgur.com/1lLBjT6.png

drexl 04-02-2020 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22639733)
You are right, with "" it's A HREF :thumbsup My bad...

Dude, I like that you chimed in. It is the kind of discussion we should have more often in this forum. :thumbsup

drexl 04-02-2020 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by xpreggo (Post 22639763)
check out these two they have a huge image on top of their chat room for signing up

chaturbate.com/robxxxrider/

as well as a watermark right in the middle of their live streaming..

:throwup

GoCastaway 04-03-2020 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22639787)
Dude, I like that you chimed in. It is the kind of discussion we should have more often in this forum. :thumbsup

Thnx other Dude, it would be a very good discussion indeed and we could build good things
if we had custom css again, without that we can do nothing...

oce520 04-03-2020 09:01 AM

chaturbate.com/_foxy

I reported her just two days ago for asking viewers to sign up new account, support removed her affiliate link and she just put it back again!

edit:the link is removed on chaturbate main site but if you open her room on white label its still there!!!

peter100 04-03-2020 12:03 PM

I would like to ask about the earning which you get by referring other webmasters , why they dont add it to main balance?

any idea ?

ianmoone332000 04-04-2020 05:48 AM

Why does someone not link this thread over on Ambercutie to show models etc the anger this is causing?. I know Drexl has concerns about this incase it makes more models aware of it and they do it making the problem even worse. The other side of the coin might be it finally makes Chaturbate deal with the problem once and for all. Let us get back to normal and earning money. Opinions?

GoCastaway 04-04-2020 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22641047)
Why does someone not link this thread over on Ambercutie to show models etc the anger this is causing?. I know Drexl has concerns about this incase it makes more models aware of it and they do it making the problem even worse. The other side of the coin might be it finally makes Chaturbate deal with the problem once and for all. Let us get back to normal and earning money. Opinions?

I don't think that would make any sence...

If the models would read this they will laugh and think, kiss my ass affiliates/webmasters, we want all the money.

The only way to make it fair again is that CB take out al that css and anoying and stealing BIO's from the models and take action with bans. Out of that give us our whitelabel css back

drexl 04-04-2020 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22641047)
Opinions?


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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22641068)
I don't think that would make any sence...


If the models would read this they will laugh and think, kiss my ass affiliates/webmasters, we want all the money.

The only way to make it fair again is that CB take out al that css and anoying and stealing BIO's from the models and take action with bans. Out of that give us our whitelabel css back

A few comments:

We should define (with the help of CB support!) what is allowed and use it ourselves. If they insist banners are allowed then so be it: we can also make banners. CB needs to clarify specifications.

The issue of members reassignment is separate and should be sanctioned regardless. I have a feeling that when this type of issue is reported, support thinks of the above issue (banner). Broadcasters doing this are not being smart, this is being sneaky and bad practice. Though it seems CB is loose with this too. TBD.

It is not models vs webmasters: the problem affects all affiliates.

I noticed custom bio are also a problem in terms of performance. For example social media icons used on the left handside of the chatroom are huge (~200k each).

I still think that rules should be technically enforced rather than count on the good will of people. I have never seen a website allowing its users to cover their own brand logo, I just can't get over this one. They were quick to remove my ability to use regex in css though.

Did anyone meet cb affiliate support folks or managers? It would be insightful. If we were all working in a company in the same geo, we would have fixed this problem after week 1! Communication would be improved, we would have a feel for their skills and intentions, etc.. ..

oce520 04-04-2020 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22641047)
Why does someone not link this thread over on Ambercutie to show models etc the anger this is causing?. I know Drexl has concerns about this incase it makes more models aware of it and they do it making the problem even worse. The other side of the coin might be it finally makes Chaturbate deal with the problem once and for all. Let us get back to normal and earning money. Opinions?

This is the stupidest thing I ever heard, first, how do you know the models that are doing it are on ambercuite? Also why would they care if you are anger? Are you somehow important to them?

lockept93 04-05-2020 03:25 AM

The one and only way is changing to an other camsite. Until everything runs fine, why should they start interesting in this issue?

Just do it. Look for an Alternative and start sending your traffic there. You dont loose your current Spenders in cb for this and u will sleep better in future.

Brian mike 04-05-2020 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lockept93 (Post 22641600)
The one and only way is changing to an other camsite. Until everything runs fine, why should they start interesting in this issue?

Just do it. Look for an Alternative and start sending your traffic there. You dont loose your current Spenders in cb for this and u will sleep better in future.

Feeling the same way!
We have tried email/ report since over 1-2 years as of now and still nothing getting done for webmaster/ affiliates.
One of the only rep that was involve actively with webmasters in this thread dosen't work at CB anymore. We are left with what ? No much to be honnest.

So I have decide to give up crying about it and make some move. :thumbsup

First - keep sending traffic to Chaturbate ( for the one like me that still have hope :winkwink: )

I also started sent tons of traffic to those cam site below:
- Camsoda
- StripChat
- Cams ( Started recently and look promising )

I tell you guys same traffic sent to CB Work well with other similar cam site. At least for me.

Good luck everyone.

oce520 04-05-2020 09:04 AM

anyone tried myfreecams from crakrevenue????I heard its hard to get signups because of their page, is anyone having success??

Pugtato 04-05-2020 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by oce520 (Post 22641706)
anyone tried myfreecams from crakrevenue????I heard its hard to get signups because of their page, is anyone having success??

I can't get signups with them and their main page is so outdated.

ianmoone332000 04-05-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22641695)
Feeling the same way!
We have tried email/ report since over 1-2 years as of now and still nothing getting done for webmaster/ affiliates.
One of the only rep that was involve actively with webmasters in this thread dosen't work at CB anymore. We are left with what ? No much to be honnest.

So I have decide to give up crying about it and make some move. :thumbsup

First - keep sending traffic to Chaturbate ( for the one like me that still have hope :winkwink: )

I also started sent tons of traffic to those cam site below:
- Camsoda
- StripChat
- Cams ( Started recently and look promising )

I tell you guys same traffic sent to CB Work well with other similar cam site. At least for me.

Good luck everyone.


Yeah iv started sending traffic to Stripchat now. It will take time but it looks like a decent site

bill_musk 04-05-2020 11:28 AM

I'm trying MFC now, revshare. Will soon try Cams.


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