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drexl 09-11-2020 06:18 AM

bypassing cb's cookie system. This potentially affects all affiliates: webmasters as well as broadcasters who participate in the affiliate program.

https://chaturbate.com/h_o_t_w_i_f_e/

in bio:
"CLICK THIS WINDOW and make yourself
very special account! With every spend you
make I get 20% of it ❤️ So if you are logged
in, first LOG OUT! Then click this window and
make new profile with word "bull" at the end
or infront of your new nick! Then send me PM
I will give you a very special video for it ;)"

GoCastaway 09-11-2020 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22732726)
bypassing cb's cookie system. This potentially affects all affiliates: webmasters as well as broadcasters who participate in the affiliate program.

It's not only this, i have a strong feeling that CB is also cheating us.
Around a month ago when i clicked my bookmark to my stats i was regurarly send to the normal CB page, clicking again i went to the stats page, entered my password and then again redirected to the normal CB page. Again click on stats bookmark, redirected to the stats but had to enter my password again etc... Sometimes this way around, sometimes the other way around. And when this was going on the hits/regs/revenue was down a lot.

Now this is going on again for almost a week and the same story. Or the CB system is not working OK, or we are beeing cheated by CB itself.
Since yesterday i also have when i open a new tab on Chrome and go to my stats page the Chrome tab is closing.

Speigelau 09-11-2020 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22732855)
It's not only this, i have a strong feeling that CB is also cheating us.
Around a month ago when i clicked my bookmark to my stats i was regurarly send to the normal CB page, clicking again i went to the stats page, entered my password and then again redirected to the normal CB page. Again click on stats bookmark, redirected to the stats but had to enter my password again etc... Sometimes this way around, sometimes the other way around. And when this was going on the hits/regs/revenue was down a lot.

Now this is going on again for almost a week and the same story. Or the CB system is not working OK, or we are beeing cheated by CB itself.
Since yesterday i also have when i open a new tab on Chrome and go to my stats page the Chrome tab is closing.

The stats redirect problem has been going on for close to 3 months for me. At one point it seemed to stop and I thought they had fixed it, but then it came right back.

As you said, when you click submit on the stats login, it will often redirect to the main cb cams page as a surfer would see. I've always felt uneasy about this as if there was some kind of malware injected into their backend and our affiliate details were potentially being exposed some unscrupulous entity.

I'm hoping that its just my paranoia, but the fact that they haven't fixed this issue yet despite multiple complaints being sent to them, is at the very least, troubling.

GoCastaway 09-11-2020 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22732943)
As you said, when you click submit on the stats login, it will often redirect to the main cb cams page as a surfer would see. I've always felt uneasy about this as if there was some kind of malware injected into their backend and our affiliate details were potentially being exposed some unscrupulous entity.

That's exactly what i mean, i also have send multiple tickets about it and the only reply that i got was that they don't understand what is happening.
If you understand me, then CB must also understand what i mean, so it looks like they keep themselves retarded.

Pugtato 09-13-2020 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22733063)
That's exactly what i mean, i also have send multiple tickets about it and the only reply that i got was that they don't understand what is happening.
If you understand me, then CB must also understand what i mean, so it looks like they keep themselves retarded.

They think it's not a real problem? Do we need to make a video for them to understand?

Adraco 09-13-2020 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pugtato (Post 22733719)
They think it's not a real problem? Do we need to make a video for them to understand?

Yes.
It is the only way to describe things to them.

ianmoone332000 09-13-2020 06:31 AM

Would be great if someone could make a video and show them. I have had 1 signup this period wtf

GoCastaway 09-13-2020 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22733757)
Would be great if someone could make a video and show them. I have had 1 signup this period wtf

I just made a screencapture from the closing new Chrome tab when i want to go to my stats. Out of that i will capture every time that i log on to CB to catch that the login is not good working, if i have one i will also post it here.
Here also 1 signup this period.

Here you can download the closing Chrome tab, available for 30 days: https://easyupload.io/yle0g6

GoCastaway 09-13-2020 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pugtato (Post 22733719)
They think it's not a real problem? Do we need to make a video for them to understand?

It's a real problem, and i think it's also the problem with the hits/signups/revenue

Shoplifter 09-13-2020 11:46 AM

Tab closes in Chrome. It will maybe open in a new window, or about half the time closes down Chrome.

Something has gone wrong.

GoCastaway 09-13-2020 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 22733978)
Tab closes in Chrome. It will maybe open in a new window, or about half the time closes down Chrome.

Something has gone wrong.

This only happens when i go the CB stats, so it's a signal that there is something wrong on CB

zhenyoung 09-13-2020 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22734000)
This only happens when i go the CB stats, so it's a signal that there is something wrong on CB


yes,It's been a problem for months.

I don't understand why CB doesn't fix it.


[sorry my poor english...]

MobileVRXXX 09-13-2020 12:55 PM

Money dropped a few times
 
Guys I think something extremely weird is going on with CB.

I have been lurking here for a year or so.

I have around 15 000 people signed up and I was making 100$ + a day for 4-5 months. With an off day here and there (Maybe 10-15 days in total).

Last 15 days I Had 1 day with 270$, 1 day with 190 and the other 13 days less than 40$ with a few days with less than 10$ I don't think this is possible.

Chaturbate haven't answered to any of my last 3 tickets!

kingtom2020 09-13-2020 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22734064)
Guys I think something extremely weird is going on with CB.

I have been lurking here for a year or so.

I have around 15 000 people signed up and I was making 100$ + a day for 4-5 months. With an off day here and there (Maybe 10-15 days in total).

Last 15 days I Had 1 day with 270$, 1 day with 190 and the other 13 days less than 40$ with a few days with less than 10$ I don't think this is possible.

Chaturbate haven't answered to any of my last 3 tickets!


models stealing.

MobileVRXXX 09-14-2020 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingtom2020 (Post 22734199)
models stealing.

So what can we do?

Just switch sites? I have sent them 15 000 + people and I am making the money I was making when I had 1000 it is just a joke.

ianmoone332000 09-14-2020 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22734371)
So what can we do?

Just switch sites? I have sent them 15 000 + people and I am making the money I was making when I had 1000 it is just a joke.

Alot of us are in the same boat mate. Im making a quarter to a third of the income i was a couple of months ago. I do not know what to do now

kingtom2020 09-14-2020 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22734414)
Alot of us are in the same boat mate. Im making a quarter to a third of the income i was a couple of months ago. I do not know what to do now

It may be that since Covid 19 lock down people are not spending as much money in USA. As I seen fall in stats at the same time as when the Covid started. Or maybe models are just stealing the big spenders via PM ect. We will have to wait and see. If every affiliate starts seeing small profits and move to another cam site it will not work well for Chaturbate as they will lose alot of traffic.

Holy Damage 09-14-2020 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22732726)
bypassing cb's cookie system. This potentially affects all affiliates: webmasters as well as broadcasters who participate in the affiliate program.

https://chaturbate.com/h_o_t_w_i_f_e/

in bio:
"CLICK THIS WINDOW and make yourself
very special account! With every spend you
make I get 20% of it ❤️ So if you are logged
in, first LOG OUT! Then click this window and
make new profile with word "bull" at the end
or infront of your new nick! Then send me PM
I will give you a very special video for it ;)"

Nice catch!.... her profile is now protected by password....
Why CB does not ban these MF?
Pretty sure If any afiliate start cheating their system will get a fucking ban.... Why they are so complacent with camgirls?

MobileVRXXX 09-14-2020 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22734414)
Alot of us are in the same boat mate. Im making a quarter to a third of the income i was a couple of months ago. I do not know what to do now

I have a suggestion for everybody.

Let`s gather as many affiliates of Chaturbate as we can.

Let`s make a small community and contact CB as one. I have around 150 000 clicks per month, not much for a site like CB but if there are 100 of me it`s 15 000 000 clicks and I think they will have to hear us out.

I even think we can get them to ban some Whale accounts and force them to use the older accounts ( I have done it once before on another site on something gaming/not adult related ). Pretty much they can ban account 2 and say ( we found out you already have account X so account Y was banned and you`ll have to use account X for the future ).

I am the same making around 2000$ as opposed to 6-8000$.

That being said I am in contact with the owner of one other huge website and I am told that after the spike last few months have seen US spending drop a lot, but that is just too much.

Let`s put an effort to be heard

moniq1000 09-14-2020 12:30 PM

Its really funny, in my old affiliate acc I got yesterday ower 12 new sign up but no revenue funny because normally 12 sign up I get in 2 months!

MobileVRXXX 09-14-2020 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moniq1000 (Post 22734874)
Its really funny, in my old affiliate acc I got yesterday ower 12 new sign up but no revenue funny because normally 12 sign up I get in 2 months!

Mate I make on average 70 sign ups a day and I have made a whole lot of 6$ today.

With 15 657 users signed up...

GoCastaway 09-14-2020 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22733757)
Would be great if someone could make a video and show them. I have had 1 signup this period wtf

I also captured when you go to your stats page that it's sending you to the CB homepage.
Ofcourse i blurred my username.

You can download it here for 30 days and use to send the problem to CB: https://easyupload.io/o58tc5

MobileVRXXX 09-14-2020 12:54 PM

[QUOTE=GoCastaway;22734895]I also captured when you go to your stats page that it's sending you to the CB homepage.


This is happening to everybody that I know, CB should be aware of that issue.

The actual problem is models or CB themselves cheating us out of hard-earned cash.

I am making roughly 3 times less than what I was making April, May, June even though I have made 4000 new signs up in July and August

GoCastaway 09-14-2020 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22734913)
This is happening to everybody that I know, CB should be aware of that issue.

The actual problem is models or CB themselves cheating us out of hard-earned cash.

There are a lot of people encountering the same. Weeks ago i alrdy send a ticket with this to CB, see one of my previous posts.

I am only catching revenue from old/existing spenders, signups are almost 0 for month's.

MobileVRXXX 09-14-2020 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22734928)
There are a lot of people encountering the same. Weeks ago i alrdy send a ticket with this to CB, see one of my previous posts.

I am only catching revenue from old/existing spenders, signups are almost 0 for month's.

I suppose you have no answer at all?

You mean to say that the 2000+ signs up I am doing a month are not generating anything and on top of that models are stealing the big spenders. Even if that is the case how come earnings have dropped for a lot of people by 2-3-4 TIMES. Any ideas?

Regards

moniq1000 09-14-2020 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22735122)
I suppose you have no answer at all?

You mean to say that the 2000+ signs up I am doing a month are not generating anything and on top of that models are stealing the big spenders. Even if that is the case how come earnings have dropped for a lot of people by 2-3-4 TIMES. Any ideas?

Regards



There is a bug in CB script or cheating with intention,there is no other explication model stealing affiliates that's a bullshit !
cause some high traffic sites generate over again new member so revenue to!

GoCastaway 09-14-2020 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moniq1000 (Post 22735276)
There is a bug in CB script or cheating with intention,there is no other explication model stealing affiliates that's a bullshit !

If it's cheating with intention then it are not only the models that are stealing, then CB is shaving/cheating us too.

Speigelau 09-14-2020 11:16 PM

I think you guys need to be careful with the cb cheating accusations, they've been very honest in the 7 years I've promoted them and have always paid on time. Unless you have specific proof, don't throw out blanket statements just because your revenue is down.

They disabled model outbound links on all white labels, so I feel somewhat hopeful that models can't steal customers, although I'm sure I've lost some of my whales over the years to this. At least they are listening to affiliates and trying to make things better.

Is anyone still getting the stats redirect, it hasn't happened to me in the last 8 hours and stats seem to be loading really quick, so makes me wonder if they addressed the issue after seeing this thread.

ianmoone332000 09-15-2020 02:58 AM

Just redirected me there. Just once to the homepage but il monitor it

GoCastaway 09-15-2020 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22735363)
Just redirected me there. Just once to the homepage but il monitor it

Here it's still the same... Even when i am in and i change from date to tracking code sometimes it's going to the homepage.

Did you see my video?

drexl 09-15-2020 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holy Damage (Post 22734792)
Nice catch!.... her profile is now protected by password....
Why CB does not ban these MF?
Pretty sure If any afiliate start cheating their system will get a fucking ban.... Why they are so complacent with camgirls?

Thanks.

Camgirls are also victims since they are affiliates as well.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22735312)
I think you guys need to be careful with the cb cheating accusations, they've been very honest in the 7 years I've promoted them and have always paid on time. Unless you have specific proof, don't throw out blanket statements just because your revenue is down.

They disabled model outbound links on all white labels, so I feel somewhat hopeful that models can't steal customers, although I'm sure I've lost some of my whales over the years to this. At least they are listening to affiliates and trying to make things better.

Is anyone still getting the stats redirect, it hasn't happened to me in the last 8 hours and stats seem to be loading really quick, so makes me wonder if they addressed the issue after seeing this thread.

You are right, cb pays on time, they are reliable.

We all know about 2 things that effectively impact affiliates negatively. These should be the focus of discussion:

1- some broadcasters incite users to re-signup
You only see the tip of the iceberg, what you read in the bios exists also in private chats and social media. Since everyone is now aware of this unethical trick, it would be advisable to change the system so users can't be reassigned (or make it more difficult).

2- dmca
A number of broadcasters believe that the use of chaturbate tools is an act of piracy, there should be an effort made to clarify this.

There is an article in the cb knowledgebase about copyright but it doesn't mention the right for affiliates to use promotional items. This would clarify the never ending confusion if they were to, at the very least, mention something about dmca compliance of the promotional items used by webmasters: https://support.chaturbate.com/hc/en...n-another-site



Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22735312)

They disabled model outbound links on all white labels, so I feel somewhat hopeful that models can't steal customers

It was a combo action: disable of model outbound on whitelabels + removing of the timer for such links on chaturbate.com, the latter resulting in better conversion for broadcasters and less leads for webmasters.
I still believe that affiliate links have no place on a destination site since the purpose of affiliate marketing is to drive traffic to a site, not so to plant fish nets on the destination site but that's now established that it is a business decision, so no need to dwell on it.



On the other topic that is discussed here: I don't know why there is a suspicion about the broken redirect, I don't see any reason to believe it is used to cheat anyone or how that would achieve that.

kingtom2020 09-15-2020 02:21 PM

Support (Chaturbate)

Sep 15, 2020, 15:59 EDT
Thank you for reaching out. Broadcasters are not allowed to ask existing users to create a new account, as this takes away credit from any affiliates who send users to CB. If you are aware of any independent broadcasters requesting users to do so, please let us know their username(s) and we will take appropriate action.

...

Can every one reply here with links to Chaturbate models who are stealing and I will send them to Chaturbate.

lockept93 09-15-2020 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingtom2020 (Post 22735852)
Support (Chaturbate)

Sep 15, 2020, 15:59 EDT
Thank you for reaching out. Broadcasters are not allowed to ask existing users to create a new account, as this takes away credit from any affiliates who send users to CB. If you are aware of any independent broadcasters requesting users to do so, please let us know their username(s) and we will take appropriate action.

...

You don't want to hear how often this standard reply was shown in this thread ^^

Take it: Cb doesn't care about there affiliates.
I mean every other service is able to have support here for example, except cb.

U have only one power - send your traffic somewhere else

GoCastaway 09-15-2020 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingtom2020 (Post 22735852)
Support (Chaturbate)

Sep 15, 2020, 15:59 EDT
Thank you for reaching out. Broadcasters are not allowed to ask existing users to create a new account, as this takes away credit from any affiliates who send users to CB. If you are aware of any independent broadcasters requesting users to do so, please let us know their username(s) and we will take appropriate action.

...

Can every one reply here with links to Chaturbate models who are stealing and I will send them to Chaturbate.

Yep, standard response what you always get but they don't do anything with it. If they should do something Siswet19 for instance must be banned already for a long time...

MobileVRXXX 09-16-2020 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22735312)
I think you guys need to be careful with the cb cheating accusations, they've been very honest in the 7 years I've promoted them and have always paid on time. Unless you have specific proof, don't throw out blanket statements just because your revenue is down.

They disabled model outbound links on all white labels, so I feel somewhat hopeful that models can't steal customers, although I'm sure I've lost some of my whales over the years to this. At least they are listening to affiliates and trying to make things better.

Is anyone still getting the stats redirect, it hasn't happened to me in the last 8 hours and stats seem to be loading really quick, so makes me wonder if they addressed the issue after seeing this thread.

OK buddy I am promoting them from less than a year and I was happy. I was making more and more money each month sending 1500+ users a month. Tell me how from 7500$ in June and average of 200$ on other months ( per day ) In September I see this

1 - 140
2 - 120
3 - 95
4 - 270
5 - 33
6 - 8
7 - 29
8 - 44
9 - 74
10 - 39
11 - 28
12 -8

It is simply impossible

GoCastaway 09-16-2020 02:15 PM

I am curious what will happen if we place a nice big banner on all our CB promoting sites with:

Already have a Chaturbate account? Sponsor our site and make a new account HERE after you cleaned your cookies

:pimp:pimp:pimp

sarettah 09-16-2020 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22736539)
I am curious what will happen if we place a nice big banner on all our CB promoting sites with:

Already have a Chaturbate account? Sponsor our site and make a new account HERE after you cleaned your cookies

:pimp:pimp:pimp

Well, if Chaturbate saw it they would probably can your account and keep your money.

.

Speigelau 09-16-2020 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22736139)
OK buddy I am promoting them from less than a year and I was happy. I was making more and more money each month sending 1500+ users a month. Tell me how from 7500$ in June and average of 200$ on other months ( per day ) In September I see this

1 - 140
2 - 120
3 - 95
4 - 270
5 - 33
6 - 8
7 - 29
8 - 44
9 - 74
10 - 39
11 - 28
12 -8

It is simply impossible

Its definitely not impossible, the key is understanding how many unique spenders on average you have daily and how much of your daily revenue might be driven by just a few spenders. All it takes is a couple of whales to stop spending for your revenue to take a nose dive and if you don't understand the breakdown of your income then it may seem really suspicious. Do you use the stats tool mentioned frequently in this thread?

MobileVRXXX 09-17-2020 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22736626)
Its definitely not impossible, the key is understanding how many unique spenders on average you have daily and how much of your daily revenue might be driven by just a few spenders. All it takes is a couple of whales to stop spending for your revenue to take a nose dive and if you don't understand the breakdown of your income then it may seem really suspicious. Do you use the stats tool mentioned frequently in this thread?

I do even though they are unbelievably bad...

I completely understand how it works and I have at least 30 people spending daily on average. Suddenly on 5-th of September I see 2-5-3-1... you get the point.

I just don't believe 4 whales can get out at the exact same time.

And what are we going to do about the models stealing the whales?

Once again I suggest we all gather together and talk to them as a union.

Best regards

zhenyoung 09-17-2020 03:33 AM

https://i.imgur.com/OaWs414.jpg

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