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DirtyDanza · 02-24-2005, 02:54 AM

well not to be to blunt here steve but you know me I will.. she's a greedy whore... 24k a year for nothging oplus what she has already made? she all of a sudden thinks she has abrain... you will not sink without her filming for you... fact is I thought she was long gone along time ago you remember me asking youLOL... bro you will be fine and you were paying her to much anyways... grand a week tops for the site even when she was shooting... these are girls... fuck the people that say "oh steve she made you millions" fuck them... this is buisness... what about people all over the world making millions off of cheap labor (construction mexicians) know what I mean... thats just called smart buisness... hit me up if you wanna chat bro

ThumbWolf · 02-24-2005, 02:54 AM

Biting the hand that feeds you is never a good idea.

ThumbWolf · 02-24-2005, 02:56 AM

Not to mention biting the hand that feeds you, puts clothes on your back, buys you a house and makes you famous all over the world.

KRL · 02-24-2005, 02:59 AM

From one businessman to another Steve, for the kind of money I'm assuming that girl makes your company, I'd have given her some kind of sweet equity participation deal to keep her going for you guys.

$10K a month isn't a lot of money these days to someone bringing in millions.

Doesn't matter if she is just a model or not.

I'll give someone $1 to bring me $5 all day and night long.

ThumbWolf · 02-24-2005, 03:01 AM

Here's a link you could send her as a response:
http://jobsearch.mcdonalds.careers.m...brd=72&lid=338

chaze · 02-24-2005, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by spunky

Time to find a younger Tawnee

Yep, send he on her way

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-24-2005, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

From one businessman to another Steve, for the kind of money I'm assuming that girl makes your company, I'd have given her some kind of sweet equity participation deal to keep her going for you guys.

$10K a month isn't a lot of money these days to someone bringing in millions.

Doesn't matter if she is just a model or not.

I'll give someone $1 to bring me $5 all day and night long.

Double that for me...

Damn KRL sometimes you say the sexiest shit late at night

Wolfy · 02-24-2005, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightspeed

We've talked about this for a long time, like "who made who?"

Would Tawnee have been a star without us?
Would we have risen in the sponsor ranks without her?

I think she is forgetting the *millions* of dollars and *thousands* of hours we've invested into promoting her. She was in the right place at the right time. She was our only model ready for a solo site when Tanker started working for us. Personally, I think we have models that deserve her stardom even more.

Steve Lightspeed

Sounds like you made your decision and formed a gameplan all in one paragraph. Gitter done Steve :D

beemk · 02-24-2005, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

From one businessman to another Steve, for the kind of money I'm assuming that girl makes your company, I'd have given her some kind of sweet equity participation deal to keep her going for you guys.

$10K a month isn't a lot of money these days to someone bringing in millions.

Doesn't matter if she is just a model or not.

I'll give someone $1 to bring me $5 all day and night long.

finally someone with some sense.

MrJackMeHoff · 02-24-2005, 03:23 AM

you only pay her $2K? Shit Ill pay her double to sit under my desk and suck on my balls all day.

DomBuyer · 02-24-2005, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

no question Hank, but that girl doesnt even post here, i read that letter that she wrote to Steve, its really not that objectionable... she got offered 2K a month and she is asking for a little more.. no biggie..

the only purpose to post the letter is to make her look bad to other companies..... am i wrong?

Hello, line one

jazzll · 02-24-2005, 04:05 AM

How the fuck did this grow to 8 pages while I was sleeping

jazzll · 02-24-2005, 04:05 AM

Any change of sigspot?

arggggh

VideoJ · 02-24-2005, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

From one businessman to another Steve, for the kind of money I'm assuming that girl makes your company, I'd have given her some kind of sweet equity participation deal to keep her going for you guys.

$10K a month isn't a lot of money these days to someone bringing in millions.

Doesn't matter if she is just a model or not.

I'll give someone $1 to bring me $5 all day and night long.

But what if they turn around and wanted $4 to bring you $5? Would you still be interested, especially if you're doing all the work and paying all the expenses? I think that is what happened to Steve.

Tala · 02-24-2005, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Double that for me...

Damn KRL sometimes you say the sexiest shit late at night

Ohmy.

I want video rights.

ADL Colin · 02-24-2005, 04:37 AM

"Tawnee made Steve millions"? Nuh uh. Steve made Steve millions. The world is filled with cute, young girls. Go get one and make millions if you think the girl "makes the millions".

KRL · 02-24-2005, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

"Tawnee made Steve millions"? Nuh uh. Steve made Steve millions. The world is filled with cute, young girls. Go get one and make millions if you think the girl "makes the millions".

That's a very incorrect, ridiculous and typical porn company mentality way to look at it Colin.

michel · 02-24-2005, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

"Tawnee made Steve millions"? Nuh uh. Steve made Steve millions. The world is filled with cute, young girls. Go get one and make millions if you think the girl "makes the millions".

The world is full of mainstream actors, but not all make millions for a company.

Drake · 02-24-2005, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

$10K a month isn't a lot of money these days to someone bringing in millions.

Doesn't matter if she is just a model or not.

I'll give someone $1 to bring me $5 all day and night long.

It's not a lot of money to somebody netting millions. Bringing in millions and having millions in profit are quite different. I don't know Steve's books so he'll have to be the judge whether he's being a cheap ass or not. If he is, then he will lose because it would be better to keep her by payng her extra pocket change.

Isn't Steve the same guy that buys his employees nice expensive sports cars? It would seem to me he's quite fair. But again, I don't know the financial side and he'll have to do what he knows is right. If he's undercutting her and/or can spare to pay more, he would be better to pay her some more and keep her on board. I also say he asks her parents to talk to her. They want what's best for their girl and they know she makes good money and they probably know that it won't be easy for her to find something else that pays so well.

$10k for a few hours each month is a lot of money.

ADL Colin · 02-24-2005, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

That's a very incorrect, ridiculous and typical porn company mentality way to look at it Colin.

If that girl would have made her own site and tried to market it no one would have ever heard of her or her site. There's a big difference between being a pretty young face and having business savvy.

I present her own email as evidence. She didn't write Steve and tell him about how she was going to go start her own company and how she was going to market it and how she was going to get affiliates and keep all her money. No, she talked about how she was going to email 200 possible sites looking for a new EMPLOYER.

On top of that, 99% of the affiliate programs out there would not have done as well with Tawnee Stone as Steve did. He's created a brand.

rowan · 02-24-2005, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

From one businessman to another Steve, for the kind of money I'm assuming that girl makes your company, I'd have given her some kind of sweet equity participation deal to keep her going for you guys.

$10K a month isn't a lot of money these days to someone bringing in millions.

Doesn't matter if she is just a model or not.

I'll give someone $1 to bring me $5 all day and night long.

I think it's pretty clear from Steve's msgs in this thread that it's not just about money. It sounds like he's wanting more for the site to push it forward, I mean really apart from the one-off sex scenes with her boyfriend and Jordan Capri it's just been sets of her naked and smiling... for 4 years. On top of that there's the ego problem and as a couple of others have said, she can be difficult in front of the camera as well.

Since she is approaching other companies she may find herself in this exact same situation once the contract with them runs out. Plus, if she walks away from Steve's $24k no compete offer there's no guarantee she'll even make that much elsewhere.

JFPdude · 02-24-2005, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

If that girl would have made her own site and tried to market it no one would have ever heard of her or her site. There's a big difference between being a pretty young face and having business savvy.

I present her own email as evidence. She didn't write Steve and tell him about how she was going to go start her own company and how she was going to market it and how she was going to get affiliates and keep all her money. No, she talked about how she was going to email 200 possible sites looking for a new EMPLOYER.

On top of that, 99% of the affiliate programs out there would not have done as well with Tawnee Stone as Steve did. He's created a brand.

This is very true you can have the greatest product in the world but if you can't market it your doomed.

I still say let her go. Let her find out for herself the last few years was almost a free ride for her.

Steve you have been very generous with her but now she has gone beyond her prime with you. You have other girls that would be willing to more than she did. If she won't adapt and still wants the easy money time to show her the door.

My estimation is she'll be back ... asking to do more for you because she knows how you treated her.

Right now she thinks the grass is greener on the other side ... let her find out why it's greener.

bigdog · 02-24-2005, 05:58 AM

i wonder if the other lightspeed models are afraid they might have to go a little hardcore

junction · 02-24-2005, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PerfectionGirls

You already know my take on it.

If shes shopping a deal then fuck her. DOnt pay her a dime. If she wont accept the 2k a month for doing nothing after all you have paid her then again, fuck her.

Any program that picked her up would be commiting industy suicide. Not only that, shes the most branded name girl on the internet. Shes branded as hell making her worthless as anything but Tawnee Stone.

She might find a job doing DP with two big black dude, but other then that... she has ZERO value for anyone.

Kick her bitchy ass out and let her see how good she had it. No need to be nice Steve, you know as well as I do she would fuck you over without thinking about it.

Although it pains me to say it, I agree with you.

polish_aristocrat · 02-24-2005, 06:02 AM

Can someone tell me if this is real or another pathetic spam in the style Perfection Girls did yesterday, I don't have the time to read the whole 8 pages

Ok, looks like real, but from the original post it looked like she was earning only $2k per month.[/size]

pornstar2pac · 02-24-2005, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by michel

The world is full of mainstream actors, but not all make millions for a company.

will you do me a favorite and accept my gallery

Tala · 02-24-2005, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

Can someone tell me if this is real or another pathetic spam in the style Perfection Girls did yesterday, I don't have the time to read the whole 8 pages

I believe this is a real issue with Steve, so no, it's not spam.

And please, give Lightspeed more credit than the whole Perfection Girls thing.

polish_aristocrat · 02-24-2005, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tala

I believe this is a real issue with Steve, so no, it's not spam.

And please, give Lightspeed more credit than the whole Perfection Girls thing.

Yes, I corrected myself, but from the original post i thought she makes only $2k per month, and then I saw the topic is 8 pages, so I was too busy to read it.

But a few posts later on the 1st age I saw the explanation that she makes 130k per year.

And the topic suprised me anyway, especially since it was 1 day after the Perfection Girls stunt.

Tala · 02-24-2005, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

Yes, I corrected myself, but from the original post i thought she makes only $2k per month, and then I saw the topic is 8 pages, so I was too busy to read it.

But a few posts later on the 1st age I saw the explanation that she makes 130k per year.

And the topic suprised me anyway, especially since it was 1 day after the Perfection Girls stunt.

Understandable.

I wish I could make $130k/year for being cute.

michel · 02-24-2005, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

will you do me a favorite and accept my gallery

What's the (part of) url?

JFPdude · 02-24-2005, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

Can someone tell me if this is real or another pathetic spam in the style Perfection Girls did yesterday, I don't have the time to read the whole 8 pages

Ok, looks like real, but from the original post it looked like she was earning only $2k per month.[/size]

Don't even associate Steve with the likes of Jeffscammer

quantum-x · 02-24-2005, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

Steve probably never heard of this girl but there was a girl who was a PHENOMENON within the Ebony Big Booty niche and her name was Miss Thickness. She hit the scene a few years ago with Missthickness.com and EVERYBODY was kissing her ass...Then she got uppity and went from person to person trying to get more money than she was probably getting with the person who made her famous.

Now she has some .net site and she's probably making some money but I know for a fact that she couldn't possibly be making what she used to make....

When a girl gets hot online, her head swells up and she starts thinking that her pussy is worth more than it actually is. This happens with strippers, prostitutes, and now it's happening with internet models.

Pimpin ain't easy. Even the best pimps have hoes walking out on them from time to time. Don't sweat it. You still have a LARGE stable of new bitches so fuck her.

I am convinced most girls are dumb.
They don't realise that they're just a cog in a system to make money from them taking off their clothes.
They leave, their money stops.

Am I the only one to see this?

EDIT: I meant 'girls' in a solo-teen sense, not a misogynistic sense.

inthestars · 02-24-2005, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Her employment with us ended Dec 31, she has also now filed for unemployment benefits, which will increase our rates.

I want to do right by her, but how much should I feel obliged now?

So she wasn't 1099, she was an actual employee?

sweetcuties · 02-24-2005, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

when it comes to money the best friends become strangers

now imagine with paid models

Wow, that's deep... sad but true

Drake · 02-24-2005, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan

Plus, if she walks away from Steve's $24k no compete offer there's no guarantee she'll even make that much elsewhere.

Anybody know what a typical model makes from a solo site that contains no hardcore?

I doubt many make over $10k each month sheer profit....while having everything paid for, site updates, content produced, etc etc. Maybe I'm wrong, I really have no idea.

I can see her possibly making more in the future...but only if she does hardcore and it seems she doesn't want to do that (which is perfectly fine, it's her body and she decides how much of it to show).

inthestars · 02-24-2005, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

From one businessman to another Steve, for the kind of money I'm assuming that girl makes your company, I'd have given her some kind of sweet equity participation deal to keep her going for you guys.

$10K a month isn't a lot of money these days to someone bringing in millions.

Doesn't matter if she is just a model or not.

I'll give someone $1 to bring me $5 all day and night long.

But he's got other girls. Playboy Playmates sign a two year no nudity clause and get $25k spread out over two years. Tawnee has made way more than that for four years. And like Mike33 says, she's totally gotten to skip the poor young adulthood stage that most people deal with.

inthestars · 02-24-2005, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

If that girl would have made her own site and tried to market it no one would have ever heard of her or her site. There's a big difference between being a pretty young face and having business savvy.

I present her own email as evidence. She didn't write Steve and tell him about how she was going to go start her own company and how she was going to market it and how she was going to get affiliates and keep all her money. No, she talked about how she was going to email 200 possible sites looking for a new EMPLOYER.

On top of that, 99% of the affiliate programs out there would not have done as well with Tawnee Stone as Steve did. He's created a brand.

I don't think Tawnee is a smart girl even if she is in college. She could jump on Ifriends.com or Steamray and do cam shows and charge $10/per min.

Video-Post · 02-24-2005, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by spunky

Whoa..the chick is about to leave the nest?

They grow up so fast

Seriously, $2k is ridiculously low. I can't believe she signed that contract

brand0n · 02-24-2005, 07:19 AM

unemployment benifits + severence pay

boohoohahaha

fucking dental next?

DomBuyer · 02-24-2005, 07:38 AM

This thread doesn't make either party look good, whatever the "reality" is.

slapass · 02-24-2005, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

From one businessman to another Steve, for the kind of money I'm assuming that girl makes your company, I'd have given her some kind of sweet equity participation deal to keep her going for you guys.

$10K a month isn't a lot of money these days to someone bringing in millions.

Doesn't matter if she is just a model or not.

I'll give someone $1 to bring me $5 all day and night long.

Based on other posts of Steve. He did do this. And it was better then $1 for $5.

An average girl is paid $300 a set or so. She has 350 sets out there. $10,500. He obviously paid her way more then this every year.

Tottycash · 02-24-2005, 07:53 AM

Sorry to hear this

Zebra · 02-24-2005, 07:55 AM

I made Tawnee cry once.

dokk · 02-24-2005, 07:55 AM

fuck the bitch.. steve always did her right...
no sub for stupidity.. she'll blow it and wish... but it'll be too late..

bigdog · 02-24-2005, 08:00 AM

i wonder how much money money twanee could get for a hardcore anal video from one of the large video companies

ADL Colin · 02-24-2005, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dokk

fuck the bitch.. steve always did her right...
no sub for stupidity.. she'll blow it and wish... but it'll be too late..

What's up, Dokk?

polish_aristocrat · 02-24-2005, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Based on other posts of Steve. He did do this. And it was better then $1 for $5.

An average girl is paid $300 a set or so. She has 350 sets out there. $10,500. He obviously paid her way more then this every year.

$300 x 350 = $105000

Veterans Day · 02-24-2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by beemk

finally someone with some sense.

No shit

Zebra · 02-24-2005, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

i wonder how much money money twanee could get for a hardcore anal video from one of the large video companies

Not getting the point. She is a diva and wont do hardcore. Part of the reason Steve is letting her go.

Dax · 02-24-2005, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

Anybody know what a typical model makes from a solo site that contains no hardcore?

I doubt many make over $10k each month sheer profit....while having everything paid for, site updates, content produced, etc etc. Maybe I'm wrong, I really have no idea.

I can see her possibly making more in the future...but only if she does hardcore and it seems she doesn't want to do that (which is perfectly fine, it's her body and she decides how much of it to show).

My understanding is that ChristinaModel.com makes about $60k a month -for no hardcore, actually for NON nude- and she takes 40% of the income, THAT is paying your models well ( doesnt mean i would do that, but i admire that guy for paying that high ) and he has NOT ONE affiliate.. so it's not all about * spending millions marketing * it's a lot to do about the girl!

Like I said in my first post: If it was all about marketing and not so much about * yet another cute face * then EVERY SINGLE girl in Lisghspeed cash would be making as much or more than Tawny's site is, I mean the ppl who * made * tawny the * superstar * can make any other girl the superstar?? right??

WRONG! It is a very even deal.. She is just as much if not more important than the marketing!

02-24-2005, 02:54 AM	#351
DirtyDanza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BP4L.... Las Vegas, Posts: 8,369	well not to be to blunt here steve but you know me I will.. she's a greedy whore... 24k a year for nothging oplus what she has already made? she all of a sudden thinks she has abrain... you will not sink without her filming for you... fact is I thought she was long gone along time ago you remember me asking youLOL... bro you will be fine and you were paying her to much anyways... grand a week tops for the site even when she was shooting... these are girls... fuck the people that say "oh steve she made you millions" fuck them... this is buisness... what about people all over the world making millions off of cheap labor (construction mexicians) know what I mean... thats just called smart buisness... hit me up if you wanna chat bro __________________ AVN Nominated Camming Couple

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polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	Can someone tell me if this is real or another pathetic spam in the style Perfection Girls did yesterday, I don't have the time to read the whole 8 pages Ok, looks like real, but from the original post it looked like she was earning only $2k per month.[/size] __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore. Last edited by polish_aristocrat; 02-24-2005 at 06:05 AM..

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ThumbWolf Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 154	Biting the hand that feeds you is never a good idea.

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ThumbWolf Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 154	Not to mention biting the hand that feeds you, puts clothes on your back, buys you a house and makes you famous all over the world.

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ThumbWolf Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 154	Here's a link you could send her as a response: http://jobsearch.mcdonalds.careers.m...brd=72&lid=338

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