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RP Fade · 12-11-2008, 11:13 PM

more and more are popping up every day it seems..

V_RocKs · 12-12-2008, 12:07 AM

I used my card so that I can take all of the info to my district attorney and have their billing revoked when the billing companies don't want to have anything to do with an investigation.

JD · 12-12-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I used my card so that I can take all of the info to my district attorney and have their billing revoked when the billing companies don't want to have anything to do with an investigation.

i think most of the guys doing this are overseas

JamesK · 12-12-2008, 01:19 AM

No wonder their chargeback rate is so high.

V_RocKs · 12-12-2008, 01:46 AM

Well, Mitch, why is NetBilling docking my credit card for a membership I canceled? And why are you guys billing for a company CCBILL and Epoch won't touch?

Matyko · 12-12-2008, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sherm

We need some serious self regulation....From the sponsors, to the affiliates, to the billing companies. We are all responsible for policing our industry, or the government will.

Couldn't agree more.

nickutis · 12-12-2008, 02:29 AM

I$ support used to sit in this forum for days with those "spam and win threads".. I wonder why there is no response to this one?

Paul Markham · 12-12-2008, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VIPimp

Whatever you do, dont chargeback... that will result in ALL your info being placed into a fraud database, which is used by ALL internet companies. Once you're on there you wont be able to use ANY of your cards on the entire internet ever! and not just porn sites!
LOLOLOL

I think Visa might have something to say about this.

The main stream Internet sales are growing, built mostly on good business practices, so if peoples cards were black listed for a legit charge back they would be very angry. All you need to do is send Visa the links.

VIPimp · 12-12-2008, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I think Visa might have something to say about this.

The main stream Internet sales are growing, built mostly on good business practices, so if peoples cards were black listed for a legit charge back they would be very angry. All you need to do is send Visa the links.

Its not possible for these guys to blacklist a person from using a card on the net lol... thats just their scare tactic.

I was laughing at that text on their (and others) support site.

Paul Markham · 12-12-2008, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sherm

We need some serious self regulation....From the sponsors, to the affiliates, to the billing companies. We are all responsible for policing our industry, or the government will.

Do you seriously think that would happen?

This industry willnever self regulate and has to be forced to regulate. I started a thread asking about regulation and most of the posters there want to see less if not NO regulation.

No worries the members will regulate us, they will no longer spend money.

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I used my card so that I can take all of the info to my district attorney and have their billing revoked when the billing companies don't want to have anything to do with an investigation.

More people need to do this and throw a few people into prison. Then some might go for self regulation.

Paul Markham · 12-12-2008, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Well, Mitch, why is NetBilling docking my credit card for a membership I canceled? And why are you guys billing for a company CCBILL and Epoch won't touch?

Maybe sending the information to Visa will help.

Could be that if Visa find out they might look at how some companies operate and take action. Then everyone will be screaming about another processor going down and people losing money because of it.

XX_RydeR · 12-12-2008, 03:28 AM

Is this shit going to end?

How long are people going to continue promoting affiliate programs that operate like this?

Tempest · 12-12-2008, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by XX_RydeR

How long are people going to continue promoting affiliate programs that operate like this?

Until the cheques stop arriving...

DamageX · 12-12-2008, 03:37 AM

May your credit card RIP. It will be greatly missed.

seeandsee · 12-12-2008, 04:25 AM

check my sig

bobby666 · 12-12-2008, 05:29 AM

simply incredible

nico-t · 12-12-2008, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

damn, would somebody please buy a round of drinks and get this sorted out...

this is fucked up though i just joined em

Fabien · 12-12-2008, 06:19 AM

God damn it !
I'm getting 50$/crack with 'hem arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Wtf's happening ? Are all sponsors turning into the darkforce or what ?
FUCK THAT SHIT !
Now i'm sending my surfers to scammers ! Which ain't really good biz for me. Yeah sure i makea a buck or 2 with it but in the long run...

Now get your FUCKING ACT TOGHETER WILL YA ?

12clicks · 12-12-2008, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim

I think it's pretty clear what is going on with the majority of the big programs.

Why it's even still debated makes me wonder.

dear clueless. look up the word "majority"

Qbert · 12-12-2008, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

dear clueless. look up the word "majority"

Damn, I find myself agreeing with 12clicks. Quick, someone check if Hell has frozen over.

From what I've seen it's a relatively small number of programs that are responsible for the vast majority of the shady cross sale and credit card scams. The sheer magnitude is what is so shocking.

Fletch XXX · 12-12-2008, 06:41 AM

for the record, Incredible is the company that claimed a "rogue affiliate" was carding and used my number to join on their sites (with me never visiting a single site or joining one) and we brought it to the attention of Incredible (on icq were told refund would be put through)

I am sorry i reported on GFY all was good, there was no refund ever made and I am still totally clueless and amazed a company can just withdraw funds from my account for multiple trials and memberships to sites in their network, while i never even surfed any of them, let alone pull my card out and join.

this is fraud and its amazing to see everyone coming out about this, a good while after many of us have made threads on GFY about these weird fraud charges.

this is blatant fraud and i had to report my card stolen and stop all charges going through because some "rogue affiliate" was putting through fraudulent memberships with my credit card number?

I wouldnt post about this had we not been told by a person the refund was going out,... it never has...

12clicks · 12-12-2008, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Qbert

Damn, I find myself agreeing with 12clicks. Quick, someone check if Hell has frozen over.

From what I've seen it's a relatively small number of programs that are responsible for the vast majority of the shady cross sale and credit card scams. The sheer magnitude is what is so shocking.

hmmmm, how is being surprised you agree with one of the most successful online operators this industry has ever seen a good thing for you?

Bryan G · 12-12-2008, 08:35 AM

Interesting

V_RocKs · 12-12-2008, 02:15 PM

I find it alarming how many people are generalizing this type of behavior as an industry wide problem. This is not an industry wide problem. There are plenty of very large programs that don't use these tactics.

Thus far it seems Incredible Dollars doesn't even have actual customer service reps...

VIPimp · 12-12-2008, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qbert

From what I've seen it's a relatively small number of programs that are responsible for the vast majority of the shady cross sale and credit card scams. The sheer magnitude is what is so shocking.

I wouldnt say its a small number of programs, maybe you are unaware of many of them.
edit: or maybe better way to say it is a small number of people are responsible.

DamageX · 12-12-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I find it alarming how many people are generalizing this type of behavior as an industry wide problem. This is not an industry wide problem.

Or at least, if it is, you're not aware of it yet. I'd advise you to try your card with a few of your favourite cross-selling programs and see if it makes it out alive. Or better yet, get a new card and try it here and there, just so you can easily tie it to the culprits.

V_RocKs · 12-12-2008, 02:23 PM

Looks like I canceled... So I went back and canceled 3 more times just to be sure... Seems their cancellation form does nothing more than pretend to cancel you.

VIPimp · 12-12-2008, 02:24 PM

Is that kara's ad a instant 1click join with no confirm?

mynameisjim · 12-12-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

dear clueless. look up the word "majority"

Were you offended because I didn't consider you a "big program"?

Anyway, being called clueless on GFY is almost a compliment. The less I have in common with people here the better

SiMpLe · 12-12-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Looks like I canceled... So I went back and canceled 3 more times just to be sure... Seems their cancellation form does nothing more than pretend to cancel you.

On the "Special" Does that 5 sec redirect bill you

V_RocKs · 12-12-2008, 02:43 PM

Just sent Netbilling the info. Awaiting their answer on what steps they will take to make the cancellation form at Incredible Dollars actually work.

* No, it sends you to an ad page.

Horny Joe · 12-12-2008, 02:43 PM

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12clicks · 12-12-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim

Were you offended because I didn't consider you a "big program"?

Anyway, being called clueless on GFY is almost a compliment. The less I have in common with people here the better

welcome home from whatever your real job is.

now you have all night to pretend you have a clue!

TyroneGoldberg · 12-12-2008, 07:24 PM

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nico-t · 12-12-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

welcome home from whatever your real job is.

ancient diss, get with the times

pocketkangaroo · 12-12-2008, 08:13 PM

I hope you didn't use a real credit card. I'd also say to keep an eye on your card for awhile. When I signed up through them, I got hit by someone almost 2 weeks later.

Major (Tom) · 12-12-2008, 10:11 PM

I trust them like I trust a fart.
He's been a ripoff artist wayyyy before this.. It's his M.O. You can't reform someone who's been banging cards their entire adult life.

Duke

EXPORT · 12-12-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

I trust them like I trust a fart.
He's been a ripoff artist wayyyy before this.. It's his M.O. You can't reform someone who's been banging cards their entire adult life.

Duke

Now THAT is something!

DUKE stepping up, nice one!

PXN · 12-12-2008, 11:06 PM

Thanks for taking your time to do this investigation V_Rocks. You rocks man!!
Hope someone will send this to the FTC and FBI.

I took all I$ FHG off my biggest site, will take it off all my sites by Monday.

commonsense · 12-12-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

I trust them like I trust a fart.
He's been a ripoff artist wayyyy before this.. It's his M.O. You can't reform someone who's been banging cards their entire adult life.

Duke

Who are you talking about? Glenn?

Roald · 12-13-2008, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Just sent Netbilling the info. Awaiting their answer on what steps they will take to make the cancellation form at Incredible Dollars actually work.

* No, it sends you to an ad page.

They don't give a shit, thats basically what they said them selfs. They are not here to police the interweb.

The great thing is you can host your own joinpage with NB if you have a merchant (some others do this too though). Imagine the things you can do with that

hjnet · 12-13-2008, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIPimp

Whatever you do, dont chargeback... that will result in ALL your info being placed into a fraud database, which is used by ALL internet companies. Once you're on there you wont be able to use ANY of your cards on the entire internet ever! and not just porn sites!
LOLOLOL

That's not true, I got one of my CC's Data stolen a few years ago, and charged back 1500 from over 21 different billings. Got a new card and never had any problem with using them since then.

Interesting Fact is that I've used the Card only for Google, Yahoo and Sex.com, I wonder which one of these forwarded my data to some thieves

VIPimp · 12-13-2008, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hjnet

That's not true, I got one of my CC's Data stolen a few years ago, and charged back 1500 from over 21 different billings. Got a new card and never had any problem with using them since then.

Interesting Fact is that I've used the Card only for Google, Yahoo and Sex.com, I wonder which one of these forwarded my data to some thieves

Yes I know its not true... I found it funny that many sites are using that on their support pages... of course that is not possible to do, they just putting a scare in the customer who most likely will never join another porn site again.

V_RocKs · 12-13-2008, 02:49 AM

Almost 1,900 views of this thread and not a peep from Incredible dollars?

Major (Tom) · 12-13-2008, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

Who are you talking about? Glenn?

YES
Duke

Roald · 12-13-2008, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Almost 1,900 views of this thread and not a peep from Incredible dollars?

Are you kidding? What would you seriously expect to get from them? a Yes you are correct man we scam CC's?

PPjohn · 12-13-2008, 03:46 AM

This is bad

pocketkangaroo · 12-13-2008, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Almost 1,900 views of this thread and not a peep from Incredible dollars?

They are committing credit card fraud. Not sure what they have to say. Just watch that card in a couple weeks. Hope it was a prepaid, I had to cancel mine.

SpeakEasy · 12-13-2008, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Almost 1,900 views of this thread and not a peep from Incredible dollars?

Or Net Billing, but Mitch is probabally to busy shopping for another new car on this money.....

V_RocKs · 12-13-2008, 04:54 AM

Another fake $50 coming up.

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12-12-2008, 01:46 AM	#55
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	Well, Mitch, why is NetBilling docking my credit card for a membership I canceled? And why are you guys billing for a company CCBILL and Epoch won't touch?

12-12-2008, 02:29 AM	#57
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12-12-2008, 06:41 AM	#71
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V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	I find it alarming how many people are generalizing this type of behavior as an industry wide problem. This is not an industry wide problem. There are plenty of very large programs that don't use these tactics. Thus far it seems Incredible Dollars doesn't even have actual customer service reps...

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12-12-2008, 02:43 PM	#81
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