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Old 12-13-2008, 10:16 PM   #151
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paying in $ is always better than paying in jail time..
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Old 12-13-2008, 10:34 PM   #152
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Old 12-13-2008, 11:01 PM   #153
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the FTC will slap you on the wrist the first time..

the second time, you're fucked...

wait til the DOJ picks up on some of this stuff (if they already aren't) ... this is the kind of shit they dream about..
I was thinking the same thing! If this is the same person(which seems to be the case).....he's fucked HARD with a record already!
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Old 12-13-2008, 11:03 PM   #154
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ok, but how was the sweet yurizan site?
my sweet yurizan ccbill hosted galleries get redirected to here
http://www.crazypornonline.com/404/index.html

woulda been nice if i got notified first
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Old 12-13-2008, 11:23 PM   #155
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looking at adx there seems to be some more news too
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Old 12-13-2008, 11:30 PM   #156
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paying in $ is always better than paying in jail time..
Questionable here in Sweden.
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Old 12-14-2008, 03:07 AM   #157
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One shining point I already possibly hit on 4 pages ago....

When I was pushing Sweet Yurizan in the past I didn't get paid SHIT!

Now I get paid what I expect on the amount of traffic and quality of the traffic.

I$ has refunded my money...

No they are not top notch yet... If they switch me to $45 PPS we will see...
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:12 AM   #158
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I think Costa Rica has extradition agreements with the US, right?
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:21 AM   #159
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One shining point I already possibly hit on 4 pages ago....

When I was pushing Sweet Yurizan in the past I didn't get paid SHIT!

Now I get paid what I expect on the amount of traffic and quality of the traffic.

I$ has refunded my money...

No they are not top notch yet... If they switch me to $45 PPS we will see...
So you got bought out basically?
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:36 AM   #160
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So you got bought out basically?
Why would that surprise you? At the very least he got cash for it, not a drink at a show and got called "bro".
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:44 AM   #161
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If they switch me to $45 PPS we will see...
Why would they? You already have $50 per trial?

Anyway they bump you to this $45 you want and what? You will forget about this thread? Pretty funny
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:53 AM   #162
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This information in this thread should open some eyes. This is INCREDIBLY fucked up.
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Old 12-14-2008, 06:12 AM   #163
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Why would they? You already have $50 per trial?

Anyway they bump you to this $45 you want and what? You will forget about this thread? Pretty funny
Money helps people develop amnesia faster than anything else.
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:39 AM   #164
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Why would that surprise you? At the very least he got cash for it, not a drink at a show and got called "bro".
Well if it was the money he was after, im sure he'd get more if he contacted them in private saying "hey, i'll blow this up on the board unless you wahwah...". This way the whole deal smells foul.
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Old 12-14-2008, 10:05 AM   #165
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Things like this only give reason to those that defend that this industry should be regulated with a Iron fist.

Wonder how can somebody with a background like that can get tru all the legal hoops,etc..(well not really)

Shame since they have great content...
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Old 12-14-2008, 10:54 AM   #166
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Things like this only give reason to those that defend that this industry should be regulated with a Iron fist.
I don't think this is an industry-specific problem. It's a billing regulation issue, not an adult industry issue.

In that respect, it's already regulated for the majority of us. Like a previous poster stated, if you're generating under $150k/month, you couldn't get away with certain activities. Start grossing a million per month or more and people will start turning a blind eye. Money buys leverage.

This is just the latest incarnation of what's been going on since the beginning of the internet. Lots of industry people made millions in the mid to late 90's when there were substantially less billing regulations than there are now. Due to their abuses, regulations were imposed and some card companies even got out of the billing for the industry (American Express). Now there are some who are gaming the current regulations or lack thereof. Banks and/or merchant providers could pull the plug if they wanted to. They're not unaware of what's going on.

As the economy worsens and the free porn revolution continues, certain activities will increase to offset falling revenues.
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Old 12-14-2008, 12:24 PM   #167
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another score for the tube sites...
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Old 12-14-2008, 04:11 PM   #168
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I make a joke about $45 PPS and you guys eat it up.... Clueless...
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:55 PM   #169
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:47 PM   #170
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So what excuse do you think they'll give for all their sites being down at the moment?
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:50 PM   #171
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So what excuse do you think they'll give for all their sites being down at the moment?
None, They don't owe any of us an "excuse" lol What the hell?
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:07 PM   #172
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So what excuse do you think they'll give for all their sites being down at the moment?
Adding an additional slave database server right now. Site will be back up in a few minutes.

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my sweet yurizan ccbill hosted galleries get redirected to here
http://www.crazypornonline.com/404/index.html

woulda been nice if i got notified first
so what should i do?
keep the links up and hope they get fixed or bend over and take it like a man? the galleries in question are:
http://www.sweetyurizan.com/fhg/FHG-...p?p=ccbillcode
http://www.sweetyurizan.com/fhg/gal22.php?p=ccbillcode
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Yeah... that is pretty fucked up!
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so what should i do?
keep the links up and hope they get fixed or bend over and take it like a man? the galleries in question are:
http://www.sweetyurizan.com/fhg/FHG-...p?p=ccbillcode
http://www.sweetyurizan.com/fhg/gal22.php?p=ccbillcode
Aren't those all old codes from the people who used to run her program?
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I second that.

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Quite a nice coincidence that you tried this at the exact time they had a bug
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Quite a nice coincidence that you tried this at the exact time they had a bug
What bug.. You believe that shit? please man. READ the FTC docs "operation eraser"

jesus..

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What bug.. You believe that shit? please man. READ the FTC docs "operation eraser"

jesus..

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Aren't those all old codes from the people who used to run her program?
its ccbill codes from 2years ago. can you fix em for me?
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Isn't there a vb mod that automatically recaps or cliffnotes at the top of every new page? FFS.... I can't read all this shit, I have hidden rebilling xsales to hunt down and cancel!
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so what should i do?
keep the links up and hope they get fixed or bend over and take it like a man? the galleries in question are:
http://www.sweetyurizan.com/fhg/FHG-...p?p=ccbillcode
http://www.sweetyurizan.com/fhg/gal22.php?p=ccbillcode
do i still get credit for this link?
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...000&PA=1371929
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paying in $ is always better than paying in jail time..
I disagree - I'd do a certain amount of time for a certain amount of money. Said time and said money are currently up for definition, but here's a no brainer:

If I could do a year in prison and walk away 5 million richer with no other consequences, I'd do it.
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I have to say something to everyone here. RIGHT or WRONG putting this type of shit on public adult message boards is going to accomplish what? Tell me please?

I am going to tell you what you are doing is making things a million times worse for yourselves and everyone around you, and that's everyone program owners, shooters, webmasters.

What do you think the public is going to do when and if mainstream Press, does a special on this, on TV or in the papers you fucking idiots!

They are not going to be running to the computer to put there credit cards in and buy porn online are they?

You guys need to shut the fuck up and keep this shit off the boards and do your investigating, phone complaints, emails complaints, and whatever other shit you have to do off the boards out of the public eye for all of our sakes including your own if you really care about your money!

All your doing is hurting your own traffic and conversion ratios.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR INDUSTRY THEN TAKE IT OFF THE BOARDS PLEASE!
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I have to say something to everyone here. RIGHT or WRONG putting this type of shit on public adult message boards is going to accomplish what? Tell me please?

I am going to tell you what you are doing is making things a million times worse for yourselves and everyone around you, and that's everyone program owners, shooters, webmasters.

What do you think the public is going to do when and if mainstream Press, does a special on this, on TV or in the papers you fucking idiots!

They are not going to be running to the computer to put there credit cards in and buy porn online are they?

You guys need to shut the fuck up and keep this shit off the boards and do your investigating, phone complaints, emails complaints, and whatever other shit you have to do off the boards out of the public eye for all of our sakes including your own if you really care about your money!

All your doing is hurting your own traffic and conversion ratios.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR INDUSTRY THEN TAKE IT OFF THE BOARDS PLEASE!
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shut up donny. go fuck a tranny or something. gay for pay or something.
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I have to say something to everyone here. RIGHT or WRONG putting this type of shit on public adult message boards is going to accomplish what? Tell me please?

I am going to tell you what you are doing is making things a million times worse for yourselves and everyone around you, and that's everyone program owners, shooters, webmasters.

What do you think the public is going to do when and if mainstream Press, does a special on this, on TV or in the papers you fucking idiots!

They are not going to be running to the computer to put there credit cards in and buy porn online are they?

You guys need to shut the fuck up and keep this shit off the boards and do your investigating, phone complaints, emails complaints, and whatever other shit you have to do off the boards out of the public eye for all of our sakes including your own if you really care about your money!

All your doing is hurting your own traffic and conversion ratios.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR INDUSTRY THEN TAKE IT OFF THE BOARDS PLEASE!
Here's an idea for you, none of this would be happening if they weren't sticking their fingers in the cookie jar. Glad to see you stick up for the scammers though, let me guess, they've been buying content from you?
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Here's an idea for you, none of this would be happening if they weren't sticking their fingers in the cookie jar. Glad to see you stick up for the scammers though, let me guess, they've been buying content from you?
I am not sticking up for anyone other than the industry I work in and make my living off and if you and the other fake nicks here made your living off porn then maybe you all would feel the same.

Finger in the cookie jar or not, right or wrong, bad or good, take care of this off the boards!

on this board or any other in the public eye is going to accomplish what more than off the board? tell me ?

nothing more than hurting the whole internet industry weather it be true or not!

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I am not sticking up for anyone other than the industry I work in and make my living off and if you and the other fake nicks here made your living off porn then maybe you all would feel the same.

Finger in the cookie jar or not, right or wrong, bad or good, take care of this off the boards!

on this board or any other in the public eye is going to accomplish what more than off the board? tell me ?

nothing more than hurting the whole internet industry weather it be true or not!

Cool dude, then me and other fake nicks will proceed to fucking up your customer pool and make sure we rip you off any way we can. Can I expect you to keep it off the boards, for the sake of the industry's long-term well being? Thank you!
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do i still get credit for this link?
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...000&PA=1371929

sorry to jack your thread but i didnt read the whole thread.
does anyfuckingbody know if these old fucking links work or do i have to start my own fucking thread????????

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Cool dude, then me and other fake nicks will proceed to fucking up your customer pool and make sure we rip you off any way we can. Can I expect you to keep it off the boards, for the sake of the industry's long-term well being? Thank you!
If you were going to do something like that to me and me putting it onto the boards wouldn't get me any where except fucking the rest of the industry and myself more than what had already been done then NO I WOULDNT TAKE IT TO THE BOARDS.

You guys are being really hard headed and unprofessional about all of this and not looking at the damage you can cause by doing this.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:18 AM   #197
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or do i have to start throwing shoes at people
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:18 AM   #198
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If you were going to do something like that to me and me putting it onto the boards wouldn't get me any where except fucking the rest of the industry and myself more than what had already been done then NO I WOULDNT TAKE IT TO THE BOARDS.

You guys are being really hard headed and unprofessional about all of this and not looking at the damage you can cause by doing this.
the hell you would. you're fucking Donny Long. Last year you cried like a little bitch here over some model that you didn't like. why brining that here? nobody gives a fuck.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:26 AM   #199
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DonnyLong = Douchebag in Latin.
vrocks i could be wrong but i see you have a lot of traffic sites and you seem to be doing very well. Calling me whatever you want will not hurt my feelings or my business, it just makes you and warchild look childish.

I would think someone doing as well as you would want to protect your time and money invested in all your sites no?

I understand if you feel something was done wrong to you that you must speak out and warn others, Trust me I am the same way, and I have learned a lot in this business of when not to do things even though I think its the right thing to do or whats deserved.

But think for one second if this is all true or not how this could affect the whole internet big time. All we need is the mainstream press's public eye that already doesn't always like us, catching wind on something like this possibly going around?

Do you think it could hurt us all or help us??? It will hurt us!

If you have a enemy or agenda then the best way is to do it quietly. Send out emails do whatever but just do it where the mainstream press cant see it when your dealing with something this serious.

Please try and be more professional in your responce and
I have some blogs I would like to link trade with ya hit up if you like.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:27 AM   #200
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the hell you would. you're fucking Donny Long. Last year you cried like a little bitch here over some model that you didn't like. why brining that here? nobody gives a fuck.
Your right but some people like myself live and learn
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