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PXN · 12-16-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood

or do i have to start throwing shoes at people

LOL, ok everybody duck like Bush.

2012 · 12-16-2008, 12:30 AM

crazy shit

Don Pueblo · 12-16-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

I am not sticking up for anyone other than the industry I work in and make my living off and if you and the other fake nicks here made your living off porn then maybe you all would feel the same.

Finger in the cookie jar or not, right or wrong, bad or good, take care of this off the boards!

on this board or any other in the public eye is going to accomplish what more than off the board? tell me ?

nothing more than hurting the whole internet industry weather it be true or not!

shut up you transvestite hippy. this is grown folks bidness

DamageX · 12-16-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

vrocks i could be wrong but i see you have a lot of traffic sites and you seem to be doing very well. Calling me whatever you want will not hurt my feelings or my business, it just makes you and warchild look childish.

I would think someone doing as well as you would want to protect your time and money invested in all your sites no?

I understand if you feel something was done wrong to you that you must speak out and warn others, Trust me I am the same way, and I have learned a lot in this business of when not to do things even though I think its the right thing to do or whats deserved.

But think for one second if this is all true or not how this could affect the whole internet big time. All we need is the mainstream press's public eye that already doesn't always like us, catching wind on something like this possibly going around?

Do you think it could hurt us all or help us??? It will hurt us!

If you have a enemy or agenda then the best way is to do it quietly. Send out emails do whatever but just do it where the mainstream press cant see it when your dealing with something this serious.

Please try and be more professional in your responce and
I have some blogs I would like to link trade with ya hit up if you like.

Let me try to explain this differently, perhaps that way you'll be able to understand it.

Not telling people about scammers in our industry = silent acceptance of what they do = telling others it's OK to scam people and silently encouraging them to do so.

Would you rather be regulated by the government or fall prey to scammers?

pocketkangaroo · 12-16-2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

I have to say something to everyone here. RIGHT or WRONG putting this type of shit on public adult message boards is going to accomplish what? Tell me please?

I am going to tell you what you are doing is making things a million times worse for yourselves and everyone around you, and that's everyone program owners, shooters, webmasters.

What do you think the public is going to do when and if mainstream Press, does a special on this, on TV or in the papers you fucking idiots!

They are not going to be running to the computer to put there credit cards in and buy porn online are they?

You guys need to shut the fuck up and keep this shit off the boards and do your investigating, phone complaints, emails complaints, and whatever other shit you have to do off the boards out of the public eye for all of our sakes including your own if you really care about your money!

All your doing is hurting your own traffic and conversion ratios.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR INDUSTRY THEN TAKE IT OFF THE BOARDS PLEASE!

This really isn't about the adult industry and doesn't represent it. It's juts plain credit card fraud and they're using the adult industry as a means to acquire that information. No different than when they used the credit repair industry 10 years ago.

This has nothing to do about x-sales, tube sites, bad members areas, cancel pages, etc. It's just plain old credit card fraud. People need to stop trying to tie this in to the adult industry. These guys could be selling any other service and doing this (and they have).

donnylong · 12-16-2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Let me try to explain this differently, perhaps that way you'll be able to understand it.

Not telling people about scammers in our industry = silent acceptance of what they do = telling others it's OK to scam people and silently encouraging them to do so.

Would you rather be regulated by the government or fall prey to scammers?

let me paste the same response i gave to someone else on the other thread for this one

Yes I agree 100% but there a other ways to do this off the boards if you feel you must attack someone. I am not taking sides here or attacking people like I use to. I have learned in this biz that you get more bee's with honey and not shit.

The stuff has already been posted so just let it die. Your not gaining anything by dragging this out. Your just taking a risk that a mainstream press party may make this hurt us all. At this point it just looks like people are trying to attack a person or company and your not hurting them, your going to end up hurting us all.

You don't need to put it in the press for people to read. If you are trying to tell people in the biz then tell them, dont tell everyone else.

There are so many ways other than the boards. I have a email list of 3500 people in this biz and I use it when I need to for things like this. We all have email list but this is just going to hurt us all as a whole

donnylong · 12-16-2008, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

This really isn't about the adult industry and doesn't represent it. It's juts plain credit card fraud and they're using the adult industry as a means to acquire that information. No different than when they used the credit repair industry 10 years ago.

This has nothing to do about x-sales, tube sites, bad members areas, cancel pages, etc. It's just plain old credit card fraud. People need to stop trying to tie this in to the adult industry. These guys could be selling any other service and doing this (and they have).

yes but the press will say it was porn sites and hurt us all!

pocketkangaroo · 12-16-2008, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

yes but the press will say it was porn sites and hurt us all!

So letting it continue for longer time and having more people get ripped off is the answer? I think it'd be important to nip it in the bud sooner, rather than later.

nolongerexists · 12-16-2008, 01:29 AM

duck muthafucka

Jel · 12-16-2008, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

You guys are being really hard headed and unprofessional about all of this and not looking at the damage you can cause by doing this.

That's a joke, right?

donnylong · 12-16-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

So letting it continue for longer time and having more people get ripped off is the answer? I think it'd be important to nip it in the bud sooner, rather than later.

are you not reading what i am writing? Do it off the boards! there are 100 other ways to contact people in the biz and not show the public outside of porn! PEOPLE THAT DON'T NEED TO KNOW OUR BUSINESS! FUCK!

pocketkangaroo · 12-16-2008, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

are you not reading what i am writing? Do it off the boards! there are 100 other ways to contact people in the biz and not show the public outside of porn! PEOPLE THAT DON'T NEED TO KNOW OUR BUSINESS! FUCK!

Do you really think a credit card fraud operation cares about a few nasty e-mails?

donnylong · 12-16-2008, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Do you really think a credit card fraud operation cares about a few nasty e-mails?

anyone that is thinking about buying porn from a porn site WILL when they see this is the mainstream press after you guys don't drop it and deal with it off the boards.

Agent 488 · 12-16-2008, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

anyone that is thinking about buying porn from a porn site WILL when they see this is the mainstream press after you guys don't drop it and deal with it off the boards.

donny look at the thousands of consumer complaints. this is beyond gfy .....

SteveHardeman · 12-16-2008, 02:58 AM

Donnylong and Robbie, , I just wanted to let you know that you carry a great deal of respect on this board and in the industry so I really try to think and understand things you write but I really disagree with you guys on a lot of things.

I think a public forum is the ideal way to gather attention to issues. We have the internet, why not use it?

Donny, I am curious to know what percentage of your production business revenue comes from programs that do aggressive x-selling. It may be zero. I just think your thoughts would be better understood if we knew how much you relied on these companies for your business. Oh, and by the way, this could be a whole nuther thread all by itself:

I'm not judging. Just sayin......:-)

Robbie, you posted in some post that we shouldn't report the shady programs because it will bring attention and regulation to our industry. If ...oh....I don't know......if Scotttrade got wind of Bernie Madoff's investment scheme, should they not have called the authorities? Or would that have brought undue attention and regulation on the investment industry?

I own a paysite program that is infinitesimally smaller than I$ or Dee or Muffia or whomever else is out there. So, take that into consideration when I write whatever I write but I feel every time IncredibleDollars or whomever, makes a sale, it takes money out of my pocket. If that sale was simply because they have such incredible content then so be it, fair competition. If, however, that sale pisses off the surfer who will now be very hesitant to ever join my paysite or any other, then they are stealing money from me and I ain't happy about it. I would think you would not be either.

rock-reed · 12-16-2008, 03:14 AM

I send incredible dollars quite a bit of traffic.

Should I stop sending them my traffic Right Now?

Thanks

SteveHardeman · 12-16-2008, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rock-reed

I send incredible dollars quite a bit of traffic.

Should I stop sending them my traffic Right Now?

Thanks

My answer would be yes, but I'm not the right person to give that response. I would like to hear what an existing affiliate of I$ would do.

commonsense · 12-16-2008, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rock-reed

I send incredible dollars quite a bit of traffic.

Should I stop sending them my traffic Right Now?

Thanks

Silly to ask others how to run your business. Gather the info and make your own informed decision. See if this issue effects you and your customers

SteveHardeman · 12-16-2008, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

Silly to ask others how to run your business. Gather the info and make your own informed decision. See if this issue effects you and your customers

Agreed, how it effects you and your customers both short-term and long-term.

V_RocKs · 12-16-2008, 05:48 AM

Check out Donny Long in here... This cannot be the real one! No fucking way... Anyway... If it is the real one. It is too fucking soon for you to start making sense when you spent the better half of 2008 proving that you are a douche-bag!

MaDalton · 12-16-2008, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveHardeman

Donnylong and Robbie, , I just wanted to let you know that you carry a great deal of respect on this board and in the industry so I really try to think and understand things you write but I really disagree with you guys on a lot of things.

I think a public forum is the ideal way to gather attention to issues. We have the internet, why not use it?

Donny, I am curious to know what percentage of your production business revenue comes from programs that do aggressive x-selling. It may be zero. I just think your thoughts would be better understood if we knew how much you relied on these companies for your business. Oh, and by the way, this could be a whole nuther thread all by itself:

the respect thing might be debatable, but he does shoot indeed for I$.

GonZo · 12-16-2008, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

are you not reading what i am writing? Do it off the boards! there are 100 other ways to contact people in the biz and not show the public outside of porn! PEOPLE THAT DON'T NEED TO KNOW OUR BUSINESS! FUCK!

Thats right. Make a blog post or a youtube video calling them cunts and whores.

uno · 12-16-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

None, They don't owe any of us an "excuse" lol What the hell?

dude i've hung out with you a decent amount of time, but you are still clueless about a lot of what goes on.

uno · 12-16-2008, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

Your right but some people like myself live and learn

you havent learned jack shit.

uno · 12-16-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

That's a joke, right?

Donny knows not what he speaks.

V_RocKs · 12-16-2008, 10:16 AM

You mean he doesn't know his shit?

SteveHardeman · 12-16-2008, 12:21 PM

12-16-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

the respect thing might be debatable, but he does shoot indeed for I$.

No wonder pacification is his answer.

uno · 12-16-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Aren't those all old codes from the people who used to run her program?

There are plenty of ways to make them work Robbie.

starpimps · 12-16-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

You guys are being really hard headed and unprofessional about all of this and not looking at the damage you can cause by doing this.

you of all people should not talk about professionalism. Why were you banned from gfy again?

Phil · 12-16-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

Your right but some people like myself live and learn

you didn't learn shit. They just pay your bills and thats why you doing it.

uno · 12-16-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

That's a joke, right?

Nah, he shoots for them so he's all gung ho about protecting their rep.

Zyber · 12-17-2008, 06:31 AM

Thanks for bringing this into public.

Going to pull their links right now!

nojob · 12-17-2008, 07:02 PM

Wow this is fucking crazy.

Tjeezers · 12-17-2008, 07:45 PM

pffffffffffffffffffffff

fucking shit, goddamn, suck my ...

Keep this thread on page 1 till the end of times, i need to come back this week to read it again. And ehhh DonnyLong, shut the fuck up, you sound so gay... someone has a finger in your ass? Smoked some Happy Weed? Toke a pill and became all woosie and soft, seriously go fuck yourself!!

SKULL · 12-18-2008, 01:05 PM

Is anyone from ID around... I have been trying to get a hold of them but nothing... no answers

V_RocKs · 12-18-2008, 01:31 PM

Don't they have some kind of live support on their web site?

volante · 12-19-2008, 05:06 PM

So who got a call from Dateline NBC? Apparently they're doing a show on rampant credit card fraud in the online adult industry....

2012 · 12-19-2008, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by volante

So who got a call from Dateline NBC? Apparently they're doing a show on rampant credit card fraud in the online adult industry....

yeah, perfect ...

Finike · 12-20-2008, 02:57 AM

This thread deserves a bump

SteveHardeman · 12-20-2008, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by volante

So who got a call from Dateline NBC? Apparently they're doing a show on rampant credit card fraud in the online adult industry....

I did not and to be honest, the timing is almost too good to be true. I'm wondering if someone is pulling our chains.

If anyone from Dateline NBC is on here, ICQ me, I'll guide you thru all the good places to go looking for info on CC fraud in the adult industry.

V_RocKs · 12-29-2008, 11:47 PM

I think that show will focus on how easy it is for people to use our affiliate programs to generate money from fraud. I also think it is testament to how great an investment an adult business is. I know of no other place where you can put in $2000 and get back $16,000...

DarkJedi · 02-08-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Finike

This thread deserves a bump

Inter-Sex · 02-08-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

+1234chars

Fabien · 02-08-2009, 03:03 PM

No wonder ratios went to shit with them

Mr. Cool Ice · 07-05-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveHardeman

If anyone from Dateline NBC is on here, ICQ me, I'll guide you thru all the good places to go looking for info on CC fraud in the adult industry.

You are an expert in CC fraud in our industry but you didn't know who Rob Black is?

Noob.

07-05-2009, 10:52 AM

I hope this isnt still going on... Only prob with I$ I have had is late payment, to the point where if i wasnt to hit them up about it would have never got the paychecks.

FMG-Nih · 02-06-2010, 10:36 PM

this thread is sadder than romeo and juliet.

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