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Old 09-21-2009, 11:15 AM   #1
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WARNING - RE Jean-Francois.. otherwise known as JMan - WARNING!!!!!!!!!!

BE WARNED!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jean-Francois will if he gets a chance:-

a) Be the very best friend you could ever ask for

b) Do anything for you

c) Give you the shirt off his back

I have personally had to put up with him:-

1) Helping me and my kids in incredibly difficult times

2) Standing by me, and giving me a very strong shoulder to lean on

3) Always wanting to help me with my kids

So everyone out there - be warned - Jean-Francois is just one of those people you need to keep an eye out for. Coz he is one of the very few that WON'T screw you over and you need on your team
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:17 AM   #2
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The biggest problem with JF is he is French
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LOL I like what you did here.

The title made me think "no way, this warning must be a mistake."
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:18 AM   #4
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is it true Sleazy might think differently about this? just asking
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! there are not enough people like that. I always strive to be that better person.. Its real work at times. Especially when people need to be smacked!!lol
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:23 AM   #6
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is it true Sleazy might think differently about this? just asking
Jean-Francois has only ever been an amazing friend, so I can only tell you the facts as I see them

After 9 months of personal hell, he supported me through it all

That's all I know and care about
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:23 AM   #7
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True words Dan .

Your a pretty good old Boy yourself !!
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True words Dan .

Your a pretty good old Boy your self !!
Oh dear Scooter - that's the 3rd time in the past week I have been called an old timer/boy

I think i might have to consider some Botox

Thanks for the kind words mate - I appreciate it ;)

And one day when I get through my mess, I hope I can come see you at a show or two again. I hear you are looking amazing these days
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shit.. he's worse than that, he's french canadian!
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I like Jman.....although he did bust my balls once about a schedule.

Everyone that does business with me, knows I'm "always a year late..but never a dollar short" =)

He had to find out for himself i guess : )

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He will also rub aloe vera lotion on your sun burnt back infront of a lot of adult industry leaders if you ask him to as well LMFAO!
That sounded way to gay Mark... waaaaaaaay to gay for my mate Jman... but then again
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I'll make my own decisions about people thank you.
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On a serious note, I have little respect for most humans. JMan was a good friend, coworker and boss and we've had some good and weird times. I respect the guy.
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On a serious note, I have little respect for most humans. JMan was a good friend, coworker and boss and we've had some good and weird times. I respect the guy.
Brad - when I 1st joined this industry back in 99, I thought I had finally found a group of people who weren't out to screw each other over.

How wrong I was....

So when you find "real" friends in this industry, shout them out so we can all know. They are few and far between
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Brad - when I 1st joined this industry back in 99, I thought I had finally found a group of people who weren't out to screw each other over.

How wrong I was....

So when you find "real" friends in this industry, shout them out so we can all know. They are few and far between
no kidding.

finding people like that who aren't just hanging on for the money or cause you have money is VERY hard to find indeed.


I got burned many times on that point by many people.

One of the best indicators of the quality of a person is watching how they treat people who they have no vested interest in. It's easy to get led astray by someone who wants to be your friend and wants you to see certain things, but as you get to know someone watch closely at how they treat the people they don't need to suck up to, or hit on. How they treat those people is a clear indicator of who you are dealing with. Also watch what happens when things go wrong. Things always go wrong, human nature - it's how people deal with it that determines what kind of person they REALLY are. Anyone can be a good person when things are good, the REAL determination is what kind of person they are when things are bad, and if they try and help others when they are in a bad situation themself.
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no kidding.

finding people like that who aren't just hanging on for the money or cause you have money is VERY hard to find indeed.


I got burned many times on that point by many people.

One of the best indicators of the quality of a person is watching how they treat people who they have no vested interest in. It's easy to get led astray by someone who wants to be your friend and wants you to see certain things, but as you get to know someone watch closely at how they treat the people they don't need to suck up to, or hit on. How they treat those people is a clear indicator of who you are dealing with. Also watch what happens when things go wrong. Things always go wrong, human nature - it's how people deal with it that determines what kind of person they REALLY are. Anyone can be a good person when things are good, the REAL determination is what kind of person they are when things are bad, and if they try and help others when they are in a bad situation themself.
Sorry Sleazy but I am not understanding your post.. are you saying Jean-Francois is a good guy or not?
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Wow i couldn't agree more. I've taken the time to help SO many people on GFY that i didn't know & who straight up told me they were new & had no idea what they were doing. I literally can't count how many I've spent hours helping online. I even take new guys under my wing at shows, bring them around with us. Just because there's nothing more lame & pretentious than hanging out with the same 5 people at every single show.

More people need to do this type of thing!

I'm glad we agree on that point
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why oh why do the hot chicks always go for Jean-Francois???

I gotta learn French faster... or get more tattoo's... or BOTH!
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Hehehe well my friend how can one NOT be a good person around you. It is called Kharma and I do thank you for this post.

We all go threw hell and tough times and it is good have great people around us, even if sometimes they can piss you off, being able to say it like it is and taking it like a man between 2 people is what makes true friends... Lord knows you and I can take it and give it as well ;-)

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Sorry Sleazy but I am not understanding your post.. are you saying Jean-Francois is a good guy or not?
I wasn't speaking about Jean-Francois, I was responding to your statement of

"Brad - when I 1st joined this industry back in 99, I thought I had finally found a group of people who weren't out to screw each other over.

How wrong I was....

So when you find "real" friends in this industry, shout them out so we can all know. They are few and far between"

I was referring to my problems with distinguishing people who are just sucking your cock for the money and status and only care about themselves and those that are good friends.

When things get bad - and you make payments for friends and sacrifice medical drugs for your family to try and help them and honor your agreements and those same friends don't give two fucking shits about it and only care about themselves and their gain, those arn't friends, those are pieces of human garbage. Esp when you lost more than 2X as much as they did and still even offered the whole thing to them giving them my share and they refuse and just DEMAND all money back when that's not even an option in the contract..... The nice thing is when things get bad - garbage usually ends up telling you they were ONLY your friend cause you were paying for things. It hurts but it really shows you their true colors. That's the one I'd be worried about looking out for....



I can go on and on about garbage, but why? One of the true signs of garbage is it does everything it can to make you think it doesn't look like garbage.

I'm not the brightest guy, but at least experience helps me to learn who my real friends are.

I'm not commenting on Jean-Francois.
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The more you post Sleazy, the less I like you. What are you doing in this thread trying to stink it up?

Jman is one of the best in the business.
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Jman is one of the best in the business.
good, I'm an asshole. don't trust me.



i will say this - my experience says whenever someone feels the need to tell you they are a good person (or get someone else to do it) - they arn't.
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LMAO I can remember one of the big boys asking me if that was Canadian Gayness... I just said members of the DC4L are required to do such things to one and other
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i will say this - my experience says whenever someone feels the need to tell you they are a good person (or get someone else to do it) - they arn't.
I remember people used to post about how great you were too.

Truth is that relationships are mostly unique between the two people involved in them. One person might be a complete asshole to one, and the best friend the other has ever had. Everyone is usually multi-faceted and not so simplistic as all good or all bad.
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All I can say about Frenchy is that if it were not for him and 2 gay guys on mopeds, I would have had one of the worst nights ever in the South of France.

That is all I am going to say about that.
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I remember people used to post about how great you were too.

Truth is that relationships are mostly unique between the two people involved in them. One person might be a complete asshole to one, and the best friend the other has ever had. Everyone is usually multi-faceted and not so simplistic as all good or all bad.
i never agreed with any of them.

I've always said

believe 10% of what you read/hear about people

i don't care about someone else's dealing with a person - but I listen in case I might find anything I can use or watch out for in my dealings with that person in the future.

And for some reason I've always believed
if someone feels the need to tell you they are honest - they arn't
if someone feels the need to tell you they are smart - they arn't
if someone feels the need to tell you they are a good person - they arn't
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Guy is top notch!

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i never agreed with any of them.

I've always said

believe 10% of what you read/hear about people

i don't care about someone else's dealing with a person - but I listen in case I might find anything I can use or watch out for in my dealings with that person in the future.

And for some reason I've always believed
if someone feels the need to tell you they are honest - they arn't
if someone feels the need to tell you they are smart - they arn't
if someone feels the need to tell you they are a good person - they arn't
If someone tells you that you are a bad speller.....you are.
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The more you post Sleazy, the less I like you. What are you doing in this thread trying to stink it up?

Jman is one of the best in the business.
Sleazy mentioned that he wasn't referring to JMan.

JMan has been a rock of support for Dan in quite difficult times. Somethings, you can never repay with any amount of cash.
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i will say this - my experience says whenever someone feels the need to tell you they are a good person (or get someone else to do it) - they arn't.
I have a very similar motto.
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i never agreed with any of them.

I've always said

believe 10% of what you read/hear about people

i don't care about someone else's dealing with a person - but I listen in case I might find anything I can use or watch out for in my dealings with that person in the future.

And for some reason I've always believed
if someone feels the need to tell you they are honest - they arn't
if someone feels the need to tell you they are smart - they arn't
if someone feels the need to tell you they are a good person - they arn't
i'm honest, i'm smart, and a good person.

where is my prize ;)
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:53 PM   #41
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Sleazy mentioned that he wasn't referring to JMan.

JMan has been a rock of support for Dan in quite difficult times. Somethings, you can never repay with any amount of cash.
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I wasn't speaking about Jean-Francois, I was responding to your statement of

"Brad - when I 1st joined this industry back in 99, I thought I had finally found a group of people who weren't out to screw each other over.

How wrong I was....

So when you find "real" friends in this industry, shout them out so we can all know. They are few and far between"

I was referring to my problems with distinguishing people who are just sucking your cock for the money and status and only care about themselves and those that are good friends.

When things get bad - and you make payments for friends and sacrifice medical drugs for your family to try and help them and honor your agreements and those same friends don't give two fucking shits about it and only care about themselves and their gain, those arn't friends, those are pieces of human garbage. Esp when you lost more than 2X as much as they did and still even offered the whole thing to them giving them my share and they refuse and just DEMAND all money back when that's not even an option in the contract..... The nice thing is when things get bad - garbage usually ends up telling you they were ONLY your friend cause you were paying for things. It hurts but it really shows you their true colors. That's the one I'd be worried about looking out for....



I can go on and on about garbage, but why? One of the true signs of garbage is it does everything it can to make you think it doesn't look like garbage.

I'm not the brightest guy, but at least experience helps me to learn who my real friends are.

I'm not commenting on Jean-Francois.
this thread seems to have gotten sleazy.....

such is life!

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i'm honest, i'm smart, and a good person.

where is my prize ;)
i should have called you - i drove by whistler 2 days ago........
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i should have called you - i drove by whistler 2 days ago........
wtf? why didn't you? though i was in Vancouver 2 days ago, so i guess it would have been futile. what were you doing in whis?
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wtf? why didn't you? though i was in Vancouver 2 days ago, so i guess it would have been futile. what were you doing in whis?
for some reason I thought you were in banf (sp) - i know i'm an idiot... sorry

hit me when I saw your sig I fucked up which place it was....

was in BC with my bro - he was selling his house then we did a little driving around...flew home yesterday

fuck I was in Vancouver 2 days go too... fucking new delta asian casino robbed me and my brother... lol
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i should have called you - i drove by whistler 2 days ago........
instead of posting here, why dont you go get your fucking shine box and go down to the park and make some money....

this will help you get your rhythm...... dont forget to pop that shoe shine rag...

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instead of posting here, why dont you go get your fucking shine box and go down to the park and make some money....

this will help you get your rhythm...... dont forget to pop that shoe shine rag...

are you high?

that didn't make any sense to what you quoted me on
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