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CarlosTheGaucho · 07-21-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

not at all... i didnt say that, but there is no time limit without a contract. Thats why most states have a law instated that you cannot be imprisoned due to debt uncontracted, unless of course the debt is to the government. There are some ramifications in some instances, but sure as shit not this one. If Dwreck did say that each month, that would be irritating. you do have to remember though, This whole thing is your own stupid fucking fault. Do please admit some fault. Also remember Dwreck was unemployed during some of those months. Lip service sucks, but its what comes out of debts, right or wrong.

He was definitely employed between Jan 2008 and August 2008, if that's not enough for him to pay back $ 500 I have my very own thoughts about him, moreover if he had the guts to come over to me in August and give me back the rest of the loan all would be clear, yet he blew it on drinks and partying with girls, so I ended up chasing silly $ 150 for long months

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Originally Posted by Deej

"in retrospect" up until you somewhat recanted your statement on him being a thief when someone else spoke out against your skewed story was grounds for your own banning and far worse than relaying personal conversations. Its right under calling someone a pedo.

He wasn't able to pay me in 28 months untill I called him out - how do you call that? A problematic lender?

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Originally Posted by Deej

For part of the time yes i believe he couldnt, the times he probably could pay you some probably would have pickled him. Maybe, maybe not. DO i see him snubbing his finger at you with wads in the air making it rain on hoes? absolutely not.

He was definitely employed from Jan 2008 tilll Aug 2008 and he definitely bought himself a macbook two weeks ago, that's enough to know for me

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Originally Posted by Deej

As i see it even in your own words, this was nowhere near a personal loan. If anything you LOan sharked him. You made a pretty dumb mistake in the name of a joke... which i personally dont believe, I think you just made a really dumb move then chalked it up to a mistake.You then Demand it back. Which you do have a right to, but Its all very weird which your brushing off any blame for.

You know, if someone promises to pay you and doesn't, I have no more sympathy, and if you call him fucking with me for 28 months "loan sharking" then I'm really out of arguments

If he lived around the block I'd get my money on the day HE promised to pay that, no excuses, but I'm not gonna fly to Toronto to chase him for beer money, so I was senteced to endless months of more and more bullshit and payment plans and macbooks sorry

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Originally Posted by Deej

I dont care that you outed him...

Really? You seem to care

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Originally Posted by Deej

He apparently had it coming with all the dodging... but again my point is your bullshit skewed story and victim tears when you did just as much if not more damage when this is all intiated, every step of the way, by you.

Tell me where my logic is off on any of that...

It's not a bullshit skewed story, he took my money, kept it, and was unable to pay back killing me with bullshit excuses

Quagmire added that I was joking with him, and I give him credit for that. But the day after he promised to pay me and was unable to do so for 28 months requesting a payment plan for $ 150 and buying a new macbook.

I don't know how do you feel, but the way I was raised, not paying someone, lying to someone and then even making a jackass from someone is a major insult and not something to laugh about.

CarlosTheGaucho · 07-21-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

I didn't even notice he got banned until this page...

Few additional comments:

1) When you donate the 150$, please do so to some type of animal shelter/program; humans get enough help they don't appreciate already. (I practice what I preach, btw; I am volunteering my time this weekend to wash, walk and play with plenty of dogs at the animal shelter as well as bring them food, bowls and beddings).

2) This has absolutely nothing to do with his employer. As Abbie said, how he spends his money after he receives it is not their concern; unless it affects his job (ie. he blows it in a drunken binge and doesn't show up to work, or pawns his car and can't get to work, etc...)

Of course, if this kind of thing would start coming out more often, to the point where people do actually not want to work with the program if he is employed there, then I think it may matter. It's far from that point, though, IMO.

3) If Dwreck kept giving him dates to expect the money, whether it was legitimately owed or the result of drunken memories, he should have paid by those dates. Otherwise, as I said before, you simply tell him you don't believe you owe him the money - or that you really can't afford it right now and will try and pay when you are able. For this I definitely have to side with Carlos. Being strung along is amateur-hour.

I would like to think I have a skill for reading people I meet, and not knowing Carlos well but having met him a few times, he seems like an honest guy. I think he's letting his ego and rage get the better of him here though; typing with his emotions, not his head.

Regardless, Dwreck was in the wrong and for making another bad decision, banned. Not much more to say in this thread.

He used a very personal information trying to ridicule me, you have a point Keith, but some things you never bring up in public, and I'm very ashamed of myself that I trusted him.

I'll prefer cancer research for my very personal reasons though, thanks for the suggestion.

I'm off for now.

will76 · 07-21-2010, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Abbie

There's a program OWNER on gfy who promos here and tries to act like a big shot, but he owes me over $10k from 2008 .... you don't see me having drama over it. Sometimes you just got smile, move on, and get under their skin by being the better person (and crushing them as competition) hehe.

I'm sure everyone has good intentions here, no matter how biased or unbiased they are. I don't know Carlos, nor do I know what happened that night. I'm sure it could have been worked out without a 4page thread though

You should try to collect on your debts especially if the person is still in business. The only debts I ever have given up on are the ones when the company is no longer in business like Ibill.

The way you handle your finances or lack of is really irrelevant. While you think you are posting something that makes you sound better than Carlos because you are owed so much and don't bother going after it, I think it makes you look worst than him for not trying to collect your money. GFY is a great debt collecting tool, more people get repaid by outing people here than any debt collection company or even lawsuits.

lazycash · 07-21-2010, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

ok we can slightly agree on this statement although I do feel there are variations of bias.

Perhaps I am "bias" since i know him... But so did Carlos just as much if not more. All that dosnt detract any level of facts within my words. Maybe im arguing the wrong word with you. But then again i dont think I am. I think you may be a little wrong and a little stubborn.

Either way... you do agree with what Ive said? or am I wrong? besides the biased statements

Carlos was one of the participants, you're a non involved third party, completely different. Yes I can be stubborn when I know I'm right, lets just agree that you're wrong and move on.

Deej · 07-21-2010, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

I didn't even notice he got banned until this page...

Few additional comments:

1) When you donate the 150$, please do so to some type of animal shelter/program; humans get enough help they don't appreciate already. (I practice what I preach, btw; I am volunteering my time this weekend to wash, walk and play with plenty of dogs at the animal shelter as well as bring them food, bowls and beddings).

2) This has absolutely nothing to do with his employer. As Abbie said, how he spends his money after he receives it is not their concern; unless it affects his job (ie. he blows it in a drunken binge and doesn't show up to work, or pawns his car and can't get to work, etc...)

Of course, if this kind of thing would start coming out more often, to the point where people do actually not want to work with the program if he is employed there, then I think it may matter. It's far from that point, though, IMO.

3) If Dwreck kept giving him dates to expect the money, whether it was legitimately owed or the result of drunken memories, he should have paid by those dates. Otherwise, as I said before, you simply tell him you don't believe you owe him the money - or that you really can't afford it right now and will try and pay when you are able. For this I definitely have to side with Carlos. Being strung along is amateur-hour.

I would like to think I have a skill for reading people I meet, and not knowing Carlos well but having met him a few times, he seems like an honest guy. I think he's letting his ego and rage get the better of him here though; typing with his emotions, not his head.

Regardless, Dwreck was in the wrong and for making another bad decision, banned. Not much more to say in this thread.

I completely agree with that and I do believe I tried to relay that... Im not with Dwreck every step of the way here...

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

He was definitely employed between Jan 2008 and August 2008, if that's not enough for him to pay back $ 500 I have my very own thoughts about him, moreover if he had the guts to come over to me in August and give me back the rest of the loan all would be clear, yet he blew it on drinks and partying with girls, so I ended up chasing silly $ 150 for long months

He wasn't able to pay me in 28 months untill I called him out - how do you call that? A problematic lender?

He was definitely employed from Jan 2008 tilll Aug 2008 and he definitely bought himself a macbook two weeks ago, that's enough to know for me

You know, if someone promises to pay you and doesn't, I have no more sympathy, and if you call him fucking with me for 28 months "loan sharking" then I'm really out of arguments

If he lived around the block I'd get my money on the day HE promised to pay that, no excuses, but I'm not gonna fly to Toronto to chase him for beer money, so I was senteced to endless months of more and more bullshit and payment plans and macbooks sorry

Really? You seem to care

It's not a bullshit skewed story, he took my money, kept it, and was unable to pay back killing me with bullshit excuses

Quagmire added that I was joking with him, and I give him credit for that. But the day after he promised to pay me and was unable to do so for 28 months requesting a payment plan for $ 150 and buying a new macbook.

I don't know how do you feel, but the way I was raised, not paying someone, lying to someone and then even making a jackass from someone is a major insult and not something to laugh about.

I as well dont have sympathy... that of which is for drunken mistakes... people that skew stories in their favor ... people that dont accept their actions and blame others.

lets not repeat each other over and over instead lets just ask each other the LAST questions and be done with it.

Do you feel youre at fault for any of this?

Do you feel calling someone a thief is worse than posting personal info?

Were you drinking when you made this thread?

Was it really the principle or is that just sheep food?

Deej · 07-21-2010, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Carlos was one of the participants, you're a non involved third party, completely different. Yes I can be stubborn when I know I'm right, lets just agree that you're wrong and move on.

I as well am stubborn when im right... So obviously youre wrong

lazycash · 07-21-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

I as well am stubborn when im right... So obviously youre wrong

Actually I'm just having fun not letting you go to bed.

Deej · 07-21-2010, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Actually I'm just having fun not letting you go to bed.

Oh you have hours to test me there...

My previous good night statement was just an attempt to watch a movie or play nintendo. or layer PB on my balls for some perverted reason.

CarlosTheGaucho · 07-21-2010, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

I completely agree with that and I do believe I tried to relay that... Im not with Dwreck every step of the way here...

I as well dont have sympathy... that of which is for drunken mistakes... people that skew stories in their favor ... people that dont accept their actions and blame others.

lets not repeat each other over and over instead lets just ask each other the LAST questions and be done with it.

Do you feel youre at fault for any of this?

No, a loan is a loan, if I take money from someone I pay back, not sure why shouldn't he do the same, no matter how you take the money

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Originally Posted by Deej

Do you feel calling someone a thief is worse than posting personal info?

I've stated my reason why I called him a thief - unable to pay back in 28 months fucking with me and he admitted that

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Originally Posted by Deej

Were you drinking when you made this thread?

Nope. I've been completely sober through Jan - Aug 2010 while I also made my 90 days intense fitness program

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/966887-results-90-days-workout-pics.html

and I have a drink here and then with friends over the weekend from that time on, all of that which was strictly my decision. Planning to switch to tea drinking again in September as I plan to return to boxing after 9 years.

His under the belt personal remark probably made me overly emotional, but some things you don't touch.

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Originally Posted by Deej

Was it really the principle or is that just sheep food?

Call it any way you want, but I got seriously offended by the "$150 payment plan" and "buying a new macbook" and of course no money on account

Enough is enough, how long would you wait? Another 30 months of constant "communication"?

Now I really need to go.

lazycash · 07-21-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Oh you have hours to test me there...

My previous good night statement was just an attempt to watch a movie or play nintendo. or layer PB on my balls for some perverted reason.

Haha, well I'll stop posting and let you get to the PB asap.

Deej · 07-21-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

No, a loan is a loan, if I take money from someone I pay back, not sure why shouldn't he do the same, no matter how you take the money

I've stated my reason why I called him a thief - unable to pay back in 28 months fucking with me

Nope. I've been completely sober through Jan - Aug 2010 while I also made my 90 days intense fitness program, and I have a drink here and then with friends over the weekend afterwards, all of that which was strictly my decision

Call it any way you want, but I got seriously offended by the "$150 payment plan" and "buying a new macbook" and of course no money on account

Enough is enough, how long would you wait? Another 30 months? Another 30 months of constant "communication"?

Now I really need to go.

You didnt answer my first qeustion, but i know the answer so no need...

I dont really consider this "transaction" a loan... he did in the end owe you money... but I sure as fuck wouldnt consider it a loan.

Ive agreed with you one the payment plan thing.

Right on for the health and I too feel for your and anyone's loss. Not to be fucked with. Though, what was said was more about your state of mind rather than fucking with your kin.

I have, am and most likely will wait for debt that far exceed yours. I dont have them public and im also not the one that made the whole thing a problem in the first place... well besides doing my work.

If and when I lay my story out, calling the person(s) out... I will lay it out as it is... Not whats in favor of my personal outcome. I always admit my faults within confrontation.

YOu cant seem to.

Have a good night dude. No hard feelings.

Corleone · 07-21-2010, 11:46 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WchpzmtYIHg

Deej · 07-21-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

You should try to collect on your debts especially if the person is still in business. The only debts I ever have given up on are the ones when the company is no longer in business like Ibill.

The way you handle your finances or lack of is really irrelevant. While you think you are posting something that makes you sound better than Carlos because you are owed so much and don't bother going after it, I think it makes you look worst than him for not trying to collect your money. GFY is a great debt collecting tool, more people get repaid by outing people here than any debt collection company or even lawsuits.

I agree with this as well... I dont disagree with "Making" this thread... just be forthright about the whole thing.

Deej · 07-22-2010, 12:16 AM

Last statement as i just went and picked out the extra chunky...

I wonder how many people Carlos told this story to and told them that Dwreck straight up stole that chip from him and just heard in this thread just now that it didnt go down like that at all, in fact the chip was pushed at dwreck 3 times...

How much bullshit has been said behind the scenes over a fabricated story?

mgtarheels · 07-22-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Last statement as i just went and picked out the extra chunky...

I wonder how many people Carlos told this story to and told them that Dwreck straight up stole that chip from him and just heard in this thread just now that it didnt go down like that at all, in fact the chip was pushed at dwreck 3 times...

How much bullshit has been said behind the scenes over a fabricated story?

Damn let it rest.

It's black and white that he took $500 and hasn't yet repaid it, despite it being 2 years.

Deej · 07-22-2010, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Damn let it rest.

It's black and white that he took $500 and hasn't yet repaid it, despite it being 2 years.

You obviously didnt read the thread...

mgtarheels · 07-22-2010, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

You obviously didnt read the thread...

Yes, I did.

Who gives a shit about the backstory.

The dude took $500, whether it was "given" to him or he just took it, it need not matter. Fact is, Derick admitted he owed the $500, which is reason why he already paid $350 of it.

This shit is black and white. If he didn't owe anything, he wouldn't have paid anything.

Deej · 07-22-2010, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Yes, I did.

Who gives a shit about the backstory.

The dude took $500, whether it was "given" to him or he just took it, it need not matter. Fact is, Derick admitted he owed the $500, which is reason why he already paid $350 of it.

This shit is black and white. If he didn't owe anything, he wouldn't have paid anything.

the backstory does matter... how it played out here matters... he has eliminated the debt all together if you didnt catch it all...

my only issue is the painting of him being a run by thieving scammer rather than a mutual victim from a retarded drunken mistake on both parts.

Deej · 07-22-2010, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pornopete

Drunk or not there is no excuse for taking somebody else's money.

Honestly the amount of people here who think there are legitimate excuses for not being accountable for their actions amazes and baffles me.

it amazes and baffles me that so many people dont read all of ones words before trying to counteract their words with their own.

you have a valid point in the end... but your belittlement is off...

xholly · 07-22-2010, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Varius

1) When you donate the 150$, please do so to some type of animal shelter/program; humans get enough help they don't appreciate already. (I practice what I preach, btw; I am volunteering my time this weekend to wash, walk and play with plenty of dogs at the animal shelter as well as bring them food, bowls and beddings).

thats really cool, i like you.

CarlosTheGaucho · 07-22-2010, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

You didnt answer my first qeustion, but i know the answer so no need...

What answer do you know? Tell me?

What evidence do you have?

The only thing I know is that you have Dwreck in your avatar and try to tell me that he didn't "took from me" $ 500 which he wasn't able to give me back although I was playing back and forth with him and I've heard myriads of bullshit excuses.

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Originally Posted by Deej

I dont really consider this "transaction" a loan... he did in the end owe you money... but I sure as fuck wouldnt consider it a loan.

If you have my money and I want you to pay back - how do you call it?

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Originally Posted by Deej

Ive agreed with you one the payment plan thing.

Right on for the health and I too feel for your and anyone's loss. Not to be fucked with. Though, what was said was more about your state of mind rather than fucking with your kin.

I have, am and most likely will wait for debt that far exceed yours. I dont have them public and im also not the one that made the whole thing a problem in the first place... well besides doing my work

Not me, no one will be taking my money and fuck with me, as I said if he didn't fuck with me for 28 months I'd never bring this to the boards, if he paid everything that was oustanding in Florida at the same venue where I got my first $ 350 nothing would go wrong, I'd eat it, that's what a regular folk would do if he owes money

But I'm totally sick of jokers that wear Prada trousers and then tell you they need a "payment plan" for $ 150

Sorry

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Originally Posted by Deej

If and when I lay my story out, calling the person(s) out... I will lay it out as it is... Not whats in favor of my personal outcome. I always admit my faults within confrontation.

YOu cant seem to.

Have a good night dude. No hard feelings.

What didn't I admit, tell me what I don't know?

Search the thread and tell me what I didn't admit, I've even admitted Quagmire's addition to the story that I didn't remember, it's totally irrelevant though, someone ended up with my money, promising to pay back, unable to pay back for 28 months, fucking me left and right, needing a "payment plan" for $ 150 and at the end even trying to insult me in the worst and creepiest possible way

CarlosTheGaucho · 07-22-2010, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Last statement as i just went and picked out the extra chunky...

I wonder how many people Carlos told this story to and told them that Dwreck straight up stole that chip from him and just heard in this thread just now that it didnt go down like that at all, in fact the chip was pushed at dwreck 3 times...

How much bullshit has been said behind the scenes over a fabricated story?

It's exactly four people, one knowing him very well, one not in the business anymore, and two very close friends.

And what exactly did I fabricate? Tell me?

CarlosTheGaucho · 07-22-2010, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

my only issue is the painting of him being a run by thieving scammer rather than a mutual victim from a retarded drunken mistake on both parts.

Holy shit! A mutual victim!

Oh Poor Derek ended up with $ 500 that belonged to someone he knew two years prior and who was drunk, he took those chips in the first place, then fleed to the airport, what's more - poor Derek was forced to give it back!

Unfortunately, it wasn't possible to send the money overseas, Paypal is too complicated for a blackbelt in Webcams, so poor Derek had to wait eight months till August until I fly personally over to Florida so he can graciously give me back some of those money that he held in such a grief he couldn't repay it to me during those 8 months, and he couldn't pay the rest to me cause that would be too much money.

And the rest - even in two years he couldn't repay it to me,

Poor Derek needed a payment plan for $ 150 so he could pay his rent and even afterwards wasn't the same poor Derek able to send me the money.

Yes, that's a true victim, I bet he had to borrow that $ 150 from his grandmother so he could send it to me yesterday, or he would have to take his new MacBook to a pawnbroker.

And yes, I feel bad for joking with him, that's what you shouldn't do with people that have no problems taking money that don't belong to them and that have major problems paying back.

Agent 488 · 07-22-2010, 06:00 AM

congrats to the losers.

Quagmire · 07-22-2010, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Holy shit! A mutual victim!

Oh Poor Derek ended up with $ 500 that belonged to someone he knew two years prior and who was drunk, he took those chips in the first place, then fleed to the airport, what's more - poor Derek was forced to give it back!

See, now you're just being a douchebag who is clearly off his meds.

Fled to the airport? Yeah Carlos, you caught Derek in his scam. He grabbed your $500 chip, ran to his room, quickly packed his bags and caught a cab to the airport so he could get the next available flight back to Toronto.

You got paid yesterday, and yet you keep coming back in to the thread trying to make him look worse by making stupid flipant comments. It stopped being about principle once you got paid.

You were both (extremely) drunk at the time of the incident, so man up and take responsibility for your involvement in the situation. Quit being a dick and move on with life.

mikeyddddd · 07-22-2010, 07:23 AM

Agent 488 · 07-22-2010, 07:26 AM

trolling someone banned is gay.

Sly · 07-22-2010, 07:39 AM

Holy Christ you should all just shut up and move on.

rowan · 07-22-2010, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Holy Christ you should all just shut up and move on.

+1

Carlos, you need to be a bit less verbose. You don't have to reply to every paragraph that someone posts, especially if they (or you) have already said the same thing 5 times. Just sit back for a while...

Nicky · 07-22-2010, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Holy Christ you should all just shut up and move on.

MaDalton · 07-22-2010, 08:32 AM

this thread can be offcially closed now

Agent 488 · 07-22-2010, 08:37 AM

you are showing yourself to be as much a loser and bum as dwreck at this point.

_Richard_ · 07-22-2010, 08:37 AM

i bet a lot more attention could be received for more money in many different fields.

bdjerk · 07-22-2010, 08:39 AM

oh boy, the baller days are over now arent they. the real ballers aint using their real names here anymore. survival of the fittest.

CaptainHowdy · 07-22-2010, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

trolling someone banned is gay.

Jman · 07-22-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

HAHA I got that shirt.

Fuck this thread is stupid in sooo many fucking ways

sternyduke · 07-22-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Good night GFY!!!!

obviously not

!!! glad you got your money though carlos.

datatank · 07-22-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Again... youre being biased... He paid you back now and immediately because you are tarnishing his reputation. THat of which in the beginning is your blame as well as his. He paid you, most likely putting himself in somewhat of a bind just because its the right thing to do. Sure maybe he was pushed into and do it on his own. But He also isnt going on and on and rehashing the same thing.

giving 350 at a later date may have flag guilt. But it also in your words sound like you shook him down and took what he had. again, he gave you what he had because he didnt what was right at the time. probably put him in a bind then too.

So even though youre preaching character as principle, youre not taking his into consdieration even though you yourself say its unlike him. Everyone saying and knowing its unlike him is a huge flag that perhaps he he feels differently about the situation. Regardless of his feelings or thought son it htough he paid you when you raise a stink.

I do think its a tad lame it took so long. But then again, you pushed a chip on him in a moment of drunken ballerness. Which has gone on a ton in this industry.

PIcture it from another view. not your own. THis may or not be true, but lets call it hypothetical. Say you pushed it on him... as said byt a witness. joke or not. Chip got donated in midst of a joke, whether it be known by all or not. The next day the chip receiver gets a call with demands of giving it back. Right then after getting it after trying to give it back ID think wow... What a wierd predicament. but as weird is it is Ill go with the logical thought of, "hey I didnt do anything for this" so Ill agree to pay it back. WIthout haste of course since this isnt my fault.

months go by and I meet the same guy at a show. He "turns my pockets out" taking what money I have. NOw being at a show and having my money taken. Im left struggling a little to achieve a convenient trip I planned for. BUt i gave it since Its what is right.

Now same ything happens... My peers see me getting tarnished for someone drunken "joke"

How the fuck would you feel. Most people here would have told you to fuck off.

Not pay you right away.

So put the bottle down and look at it from another view.

Im disappointed a little with my friend ... but this was nowhere near public worthy...

I do understand the principle though Carlos and thats where my beef with my friend is. THats just not what im voicing right now. I just feel your actions and method was harsh, being that you spout the charcter part being most important when you left out specific details i would assume in hope to gain views to your side. Which speaks of character itself.

Slow down man.

CarlosTheGaucho · 07-22-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

See, now you're just being a douchebag who is clearly off his meds.

Fled to the airport? Yeah Carlos, you caught Derek in his scam. He grabbed your $500 chip, ran to his room, quickly packed his bags and caught a cab to the airport so he could get the next available flight back to Toronto.

You got paid yesterday, and yet you keep coming back in to the thread trying to make him look worse by making stupid flipant comments. It stopped being about principle once you got paid.

You were both (extremely) drunk at the time of the incident, so man up and take responsibility for your involvement in the situation. Quit being a dick and move on with life.

Ok sorry for getting emotional, that guy touched something you never do. He touched my mother.

No one of you can relate to that I suppose.

Quit being a dick? You think it's funny to fuck with someone's money, pride and even family?

Ok I'll get over it. I don't want to see that joker again though, I don't think he wants to see me neither.

I apologize for being rude.

CarlosTheGaucho · 07-22-2010, 11:04 AM

I'd like to close this thread with a short resume:

Here's what happened, an updated story:

Vegas January 15 2008

I'm gambling, cashing out $ 1200

Derek comes over, grabs a $ 500 chip from my hand palm, I'm checking him out and I don't think it's funny

He's doing those silly grims and I'm joking that he can "keep it", he knows me for two years, but he might as well know that I'm pranking people all the time, he might as well know that it's not a good idea to keep other people's money, before I cash the $ 700 I'm looking around the casino but he's gone, gone with my $ 500. Over here, if someone would tell it to you it means "do you really think you can touch my money?"

After a while I'm looking for him and he's nowhere to find, I can't get in touch with him,
next morning around 11 AM I call his cell number to find out he's on a plane to Toronto

He promises me he'll pay back once he's back.

I'm back on January 19th and hitting him up on ICQ, asking if he can send it over to my paypal

His excuses:

- can't use corporate account
- doesn't have his own account
- has to wait till another pay period is over

etc. etc.

If you really want I can still find countless ICQ logs how he makes up one excuse after another for 8 months.

We're repeating this routine up until August where I tell him that I'm going to Florida so he's telling me that we'll catch up

August 2008 Hollywood Florida, the second day of the show we bump on each other and I'm saying hello what's up, didn't you forget about me I'm smiling I'm easy. So he gives me $ 350, I don't want to bother him for the rest of the show but of course I expect that he'll come over and pay the rest, he doesn't.

So I fly back work on some things and say this is not a priority, that I don't need to chase him down like crazy for $150, since it's a beer money. I'm trying to hit him up like three or four maybe five times in the meantime, every two or three months or so, after a couple months, so I don't scare him off, but he doesn't reply at all, so I'm saying don't sweat it guy is ok he's gonna pay you.

early 2010 I'm going through my Excel spreadsheed putting down contacts and sums owed, his money is the last priority, last priority since it's a personal money and not business money, I'm trying to hit him up in the meantime yet he doesn't respond

He finally responds in June 2010 as he probably forgot about it already, so I have this ICQ convo and telling him that $ 150 is not exactly a huge sum of money but we should make it clear.

Once again, I've made good money between 2005 - 2009, and continue to do ok in 2010, not exactly a super baller like most of GFY, but $ 500 has never been a question of life and death, yet I have this Jewish mentality and I won't let anyone yank with my money.

He Agrees once again and comes up with a "payment plan" - I agree (as in the ICQ log) but I tell to myself this guy was giving me bullshit excuses for long months and then he didn't even bother to reply to me for long months so I tell to myself ok he might be in trouble let's take it easy.

All of a sudden I see him buying himself new Macbook and whatever while the money are NOT on the account.

So after 28 months when he's unable to pay back and obviously lying to me, I decide to come to the boards, no regret.

That's the last straw, enough is enough, I make this thread, whereas he:

- immediately uses every personal information I ever told him to insult me
- admits he owes me money from Jan 2008
- pays me $ 150 that he wasn't able to send to me between August 2008 till July 2010 on the same day which just says something about his attitude to paying debts

I admit I've over reacted, and I apologize for that, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but his remark regarding someone that was the most important person in the world for me just triggered me and sorry, as impotent as it is I just overreacted on a message board. He wanted to irritate me and he touched my Achilles stand.

If I could I'd flush those money down the toilet but I'll rather donate them to cancer research, so this whole hassle has some sort of benefit for someone.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-22-2010, 11:09 AM

Carry on...

ADG

Agent 488 · 07-22-2010, 11:17 AM

yeah we get it.

lazycash · 07-22-2010, 11:29 AM

Come on Carlos, just drop it, everything you just said has already been rehashed throughout the thread.

tank11 · 07-22-2010, 11:47 AM

Don't shoot the messanger. I really don't care about this thread.

Apparently "I can't believe Carlos, the guy gives me 500 since he made money, he was drunk and even though i kept telling him no repeatedly he said that he would be pissed if i didn't take it! So i took it and then ended up losing it on the tables"

kristin · 07-22-2010, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Holy Christ you should all just shut up and move on.

lazycash · 07-22-2010, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tank11

Don't shoot the messanger. I really don't care about this thread.

Apparently "I can't believe Carlos, the guy gives me 500 since he made money, he was drunk and even though i kept telling him no repeatedly he said that he would be pissed if i didn't take it! So i took it and then ended up losing it on the tables"

Dwreck?.

Deej · 07-22-2010, 12:20 PM

completely amazing Carlos... YUou are still so fucking innocent...

You look far worse in this thread IMO than dwreck now since youre obviously overly bitter and completely irrational while trying to sideskirt your own faults in this incident.

Madalton... I completely respect you dude. It was great to actually meet face to face and bullshit in PHX last year... but tell me why it should be closed? Because your friend now looks like a douche for not standing up to HIS mistake as well?

Answer this honestly... when quagmire posted his side of what happened... did your whole outlook on the incident change at least a little? Its not the fucking same at all when you find out the chip was pushed onto dwreck is it?

Deej · 07-22-2010, 12:26 PM

Also he may have touched on your family and im sure that hits a point... but you have to realize that it wasnt your fmaily he poked at but your state of mind and that is all personal to you which only you can fret about...

You however came here to our industry where we all eat and sleep and called one of our colleagues a run by, fly by night, thief. YOu can backpeddle all you want. You did that. You DID recant it, but had you not your banning im sure would have been more swift...

Sly · 07-22-2010, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej

Also he may have touched on your family and im sure that hits a point... but you have to realize that it wasnt your fmaily he poked at but your state of mind and that is all personal to you which only you can fret about...

You however came here to our industry where we all eat and sleep and called one of our colleagues a run by, fly by night, thief. YOu can backpeddle all you want. You did that. You DID recant it, but had you not your banning im sure would have been more swift...

Is Carlos not in this industry?

JFK · 07-22-2010, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Is Carlos not in this industry?

as far as I know he still is

07-22-2010, 12:16 AM	#264
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	Last statement as i just went and picked out the extra chunky... I wonder how many people Carlos told this story to and told them that Dwreck straight up stole that chip from him and just heard in this thread just now that it didnt go down like that at all, in fact the chip was pushed at dwreck 3 times... How much bullshit has been said behind the scenes over a fabricated story? __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

07-22-2010, 07:23 AM	#276
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07-22-2010, 07:39 AM	#278
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,289	Holy Christ you should all just shut up and move on. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Wanted: CCBill pay sites for sale

07-22-2010, 08:32 AM	#281
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,825	this thread can be offcially closed now __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

07-22-2010, 08:39 AM	#284
bdjerk Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 219	oh boy, the baller days are over now arent they. the real ballers aint using their real names here anymore. survival of the fittest. __________________ bdjerk inc.

07-21-2010, 11:46 PM	#262
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	https://youtube.com/watch?v=WchpzmtYIHg

07-22-2010, 06:00 AM	#274
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	congrats to the losers.

07-22-2010, 07:26 AM	#277
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	trolling someone banned is gay.

07-22-2010, 08:37 AM	#282
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	you are showing yourself to be as much a loser and bum as dwreck at this point.

07-22-2010, 08:37 AM	#283
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,986	i bet a lot more attention could be received for more money in many different fields.

07-22-2010, 11:04 AM	#290
CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,510	I'd like to close this thread with a short resume: Here's what happened, an updated story: Vegas January 15 2008 I'm gambling, cashing out $ 1200 Derek comes over, grabs a $ 500 chip from my hand palm, I'm checking him out and I don't think it's funny He's doing those silly grims and I'm joking that he can "keep it", he knows me for two years, but he might as well know that I'm pranking people all the time, he might as well know that it's not a good idea to keep other people's money, before I cash the $ 700 I'm looking around the casino but he's gone, gone with my $ 500. Over here, if someone would tell it to you it means "do you really think you can touch my money?" After a while I'm looking for him and he's nowhere to find, I can't get in touch with him, next morning around 11 AM I call his cell number to find out he's on a plane to Toronto He promises me he'll pay back once he's back. I'm back on January 19th and hitting him up on ICQ, asking if he can send it over to my paypal His excuses: - can't use corporate account - doesn't have his own account - has to wait till another pay period is over etc. etc. If you really want I can still find countless ICQ logs how he makes up one excuse after another for 8 months. We're repeating this routine up until August where I tell him that I'm going to Florida so he's telling me that we'll catch up August 2008 Hollywood Florida, the second day of the show we bump on each other and I'm saying hello what's up, didn't you forget about me I'm smiling I'm easy. So he gives me $ 350, I don't want to bother him for the rest of the show but of course I expect that he'll come over and pay the rest, he doesn't. So I fly back work on some things and say this is not a priority, that I don't need to chase him down like crazy for $150, since it's a beer money. I'm trying to hit him up like three or four maybe five times in the meantime, every two or three months or so, after a couple months, so I don't scare him off, but he doesn't reply at all, so I'm saying don't sweat it guy is ok he's gonna pay you. early 2010 I'm going through my Excel spreadsheed putting down contacts and sums owed, his money is the last priority, last priority since it's a personal money and not business money, I'm trying to hit him up in the meantime yet he doesn't respond He finally responds in June 2010 as he probably forgot about it already, so I have this ICQ convo and telling him that $ 150 is not exactly a huge sum of money but we should make it clear. Once again, I've made good money between 2005 - 2009, and continue to do ok in 2010, not exactly a super baller like most of GFY, but $ 500 has never been a question of life and death, yet I have this Jewish mentality and I won't let anyone yank with my money. He Agrees once again and comes up with a "payment plan" - I agree (as in the ICQ log) but I tell to myself this guy was giving me bullshit excuses for long months and then he didn't even bother to reply to me for long months so I tell to myself ok he might be in trouble let's take it easy. All of a sudden I see him buying himself new Macbook and whatever while the money are NOT on the account. So after 28 months when he's unable to pay back and obviously lying to me, I decide to come to the boards, no regret. That's the last straw, enough is enough, I make this thread, whereas he: - immediately uses every personal information I ever told him to insult me - admits he owes me money from Jan 2008 - pays me $ 150 that he wasn't able to send to me between August 2008 till July 2010 on the same day which just says something about his attitude to paying debts I admit I've over reacted, and I apologize for that, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but his remark regarding someone that was the most important person in the world for me just triggered me and sorry, as impotent as it is I just overreacted on a message board. He wanted to irritate me and he touched my Achilles stand. If I could I'd flush those money down the toilet but I'll rather donate them to cancer research, so this whole hassle has some sort of benefit for someone. __________________ CTG Media \| skype: carlosprague \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Want to make more with your Dating Traffic? \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles \| Did your ad revenue drop by 40 pct. or more last year?

07-22-2010, 11:09 AM	#291
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	Carry on... ADG __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

07-22-2010, 11:17 AM	#292
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	yeah we get it.

07-22-2010, 11:29 AM	#293
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	Come on Carlos, just drop it, everything you just said has already been rehashed throughout the thread. __________________ "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams.. Its crazy..." VenusBlogger

07-22-2010, 11:47 AM	#294
tank11 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2	Don't shoot the messanger. I really don't care about this thread. Apparently "I can't believe Carlos, the guy gives me 500 since he made money, he was drunk and even though i kept telling him no repeatedly he said that he would be pissed if i didn't take it! So i took it and then ended up losing it on the tables"

07-22-2010, 12:20 PM	#297
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	completely amazing Carlos... YUou are still so fucking innocent... You look far worse in this thread IMO than dwreck now since youre obviously overly bitter and completely irrational while trying to sideskirt your own faults in this incident. Madalton... I completely respect you dude. It was great to actually meet face to face and bullshit in PHX last year... but tell me why it should be closed? Because your friend now looks like a douche for not standing up to HIS mistake as well? Answer this honestly... when quagmire posted his side of what happened... did your whole outlook on the incident change at least a little? Its not the fucking same at all when you find out the chip was pushed onto dwreck is it? __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

07-22-2010, 12:26 PM	#298
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	Also he may have touched on your family and im sure that hits a point... but you have to realize that it wasnt your fmaily he poked at but your state of mind and that is all personal to you which only you can fret about... You however came here to our industry where we all eat and sleep and called one of our colleagues a run by, fly by night, thief. YOu can backpeddle all you want. You did that. You DID recant it, but had you not your banning im sure would have been more swift... __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880