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Brujah · 08-28-2010, 09:09 PM

Government agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway ? and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements.

That is the bizarre ? and scary ? rule that now applies in California and eight other Western states. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which covers this vast jurisdiction, recently decided the government can monitor you in this way virtually anytime it wants ? with no need for a search warrant.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz0xxs0rURF

Brujah · 08-28-2010, 09:11 PM

haha... next paragraph. Wow.

It is a dangerous decision — one that, as the dissenting judges warned, could turn America into the sort of totalitarian state imagined by George Orwell. It is particularly offensive because the judges added insult to injury with some shocking class bias: the little personal privacy that still exists, the court suggested, should belong mainly to the rich.

Va2k · 08-28-2010, 09:11 PM

Oh shit that is scary!

NaughtyRob · 08-28-2010, 09:13 PM

Although it is indeed scary I don't care if they know where I am I am not doing anything wrong.

Vendzilla · 08-28-2010, 09:14 PM

I'm sure they can track you by your cell phone

Va2k · 08-28-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I'm sure they can track you by your cell phone

That and laptops etc.. I am sure they do things that if got out in public would freak out the most sane person!

Semi-Retired-Dave · 08-28-2010, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I'm sure they can track you by your cell phone

Most cars have GPS in them, it would be a lot easier to hit a switch.
and some even have LoJack.

baddog · 08-28-2010, 09:27 PM

On Star, et al

Brujah · 08-28-2010, 09:29 PM

Oh it's more than obvious they can track you in different ways, but what does that have to do with this? Are you in favor of the ruling?

Shoplifter · 08-28-2010, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Although it is indeed scary I don't care if they know where I am I am not doing anything wrong.

Naughty Rob can you hit me on ICQ some time? Wanna buy stuff.

88-05-05

Brujah · 08-28-2010, 09:31 PM

Taking it a step further with some of your comments about what they can do already anyway, then it stands to reason you don't expect you have any right to privacy.

When did this happen?

DBS.US · 08-28-2010, 09:33 PM

I have a friend that is a LA paparazz and he has been putting GPS units on stars cars for a few years. At 2 am he pulls out the laptop and sees whose up to no good.

cam_girls · 08-28-2010, 09:45 PM

That's police tech. The FEDS just listen into your conversation from a helicopter 5 miles high.

2012 · 08-28-2010, 09:49 PM

HighEnergy · 08-28-2010, 09:51 PM

I personally don't give a rats ass about the GPS usage, whether it's a planted device or my cell. If it's my cell integrated GPS and I dial 911 then I WANT them to know my geo location.

If you really want to worry about something then be concerned about the infrared heat sensors that nearly every fire department has. Most cities, towns, communities have NO restriction on their use. So the local patrolmen can pop by the fire station and request a ride-a-long at any time.

Brujah · 08-28-2010, 09:55 PM

You guys are right. Please give us more Big Government! Maybe Obama will come up with some strong controls and powers, and give us less privacy still, and no one will complain about it. Not because he is black anyway.

When I go to bed I will say my prayers for God to especially protect the rich people.

cam_girls · 08-28-2010, 10:05 PM

When I hire some (50) security guards they'll be trained to shoot anyone on my property. Bonus if it's a pig.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 08-28-2010, 10:08 PM

Do your part. Shoot your local congressman, governor, or judge...

PornMD · 08-28-2010, 10:15 PM

Isn't the 9th circuit the same one that legalized gay marriage in SF and did a whole bunch of other pretty liberal stuff in the past? It shocked me to see they were the ones that came up with this shit.

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Oh it's more than obvious they can track you in different ways, but what does that have to do with this? Are you in favor of the ruling?

The scary thing about it is that basically the government can trespass on your private property unwarranted. Would just like to see the first case of some sly agent doing this and the car owner either shooting said agent or calling the police on them.

TrixieRacer · 08-28-2010, 11:18 PM

When Crazy Horse Too in Vegas got busted a few years ago, OnStar was used to gather evidence. The goverment was remotely activating OnStar and recording all the conversations they had in their vehicles.

Poindexterity · 08-28-2010, 11:25 PM

if those fools wanna follow you, they're gonna follow you.
one way or another, those fuckers are going to know where that car goes if that's what they feel like doing that week.
I'd rather they do it with as few of my tax dollars as possible.
That being said, I'm sure that those GPS whatsidoddles are cheaper that keeping a helicopter in the air for the time it would take to do the same job.

Dvae · 08-29-2010, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cam_girls

That's police tech. The FEDS just listen into your conversation from a helicopter 5 miles high.

Those would be the black helicopters?

TCLGirls · 08-29-2010, 02:33 AM

I have a problem with allowing the government agent to enter private property w/o warrant or emergency circumstance.

But putting a GPS on a car and following it..I do not have a problem with that. There is no expectation of privacy on a GOVERNMENT funded public road. If you want privacy when driving a car, drive on a PRIVATE road.

Raf1 · 08-29-2010, 02:51 AM

America is screwed :D

Screwed Up · 08-29-2010, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by brujah

...the little personal privacy that still exists, the court suggested, should belong mainly to the rich.[/b]

wtf!!!??

czarina · 08-29-2010, 05:56 AM

you need to keep your car in the garage!

cambaby · 08-29-2010, 06:07 AM

California judges are fucking loons.

Grapesoda · 08-29-2010, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Although it is indeed scary I don't care if they know where I am I am not doing anything wrong.

which is fine until walmart decides to start tracking you. you have no expectation of privacy in their parking lot, or jack in the box etc..

gmr324 · 08-29-2010, 06:16 AM

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the little personal privacy that still exists, the court suggested, should belong mainly to the rich

WTF is right. This seem very arbitrary

Amputate Your Head · 08-29-2010, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

Those would be the black helicopters?

Black helicopters are not spooky, or clandestine or even uncommon. There are black helicopters everywhere.

woj · 08-29-2010, 07:11 AM

it's not like they would even need to plant anything on your car, unless you drive through a lot of tunnels, can't they track you quite easily via a satellite imaging?

cambaby · 08-29-2010, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

it's not like they would even need to plant anything on your car, unless you drive through a lot of tunnels, can't they track you quite easily via a satellite imaging?

ROFL
Satellite real time would NOT be used on most common criminals

cambaby · 08-29-2010, 07:31 AM

Im glad the only judge that objected to this ruling was THE CONSERVATIVE JUDGE, can I get an Amen?!

woj · 08-29-2010, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

ROFL
Satellite real time would NOT be used on most common criminals

probably wouldn't be, but no reason why it couldn't be used... I'm just saying that if they really wanted to track you, they could find dozens of ways...

IllTestYourGirls · 08-29-2010, 09:05 AM

So does that mean we can start putting GPS devices on the governor's, senator's congressman's, city council cars?

Amputate Your Head · 08-29-2010, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

So does that mean we can start putting GPS devices on the governor's, senator's congressman's, city council cars?

probably not a bad idea.

IllTestYourGirls · 08-29-2010, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

probably not a bad idea.

Should be interesting when someone tries it. Glad I dont live in that mess that is Cali.

Amputate Your Head · 08-29-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Should be interesting when someone tries it. Glad I dont live in that mess that is Cali.

As fucked as Cali may be at times, it's not a prison camp. People are free to go live in Kentucky or wherever.

cambaby · 08-29-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

So does that mean we can start putting GPS devices on the governor's, senator's congressman's, city council cars?

QFT damn thats a good post.

JustDaveXxx · 08-29-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

So does that mean we can start putting GPS devices on the governor's, senator's congressman's, city council cars?

Great idea. Hold these clowns accountable.

IllTestYourGirls · 08-29-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

As fucked as Cali may be at times, it's not a prison camp. People are free to go live in Kentucky or wherever.

Well I guess those liberal judges were right. Privacy is only for the rich because those poor saps enslaved by welfare sure as hell wont be moving.

Amputate Your Head · 08-29-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Well I guess those liberal judges were right. Privacy is only for the rich because those poor saps enslaved by welfare sure as hell wont be moving.

why not? are their legs broken too?

$5 submissions · 08-29-2010, 02:50 PM

The government is doing it for your own good though (wink and nod)

AmeliaG · 08-29-2010, 02:58 PM

I'm kind of appalled that there is anyone who thinks this is okay.

With a warrant, given for probable cause, I am all in favor of my local PD having the best technology in existence.

Without a warrant and for no particular reason, actually, yes, I do think I have reasonable expectation of privacy. Irritates me when people take photos or video of me when my car is moving on Hollywood Blvd.

marketsmart · 08-29-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

You guys are right. Please give us more Big Government! Maybe Obama will come up with some strong controls and powers, and give us less privacy still, and no one will complain about it. Not because he is black anyway.

When I go to bed I will say my prayers for God to especially protect the rich people.

you had some valid points up until this one...

this shit was being put in place since reagan...

george sr ran the cia and when he was vp the wheels were put in motion because regan let him do whatever he wanted to on that end...

911 set in motion a chain of events that will continue to strip americans of their privacy until the end of man...

so, dont be an idiot and jump on the it's all obamas fault train..

.

Slutboat · 08-29-2010, 03:44 PM

Good concerns! Let's get the ACLU on this! But I bet you righty fear mongering motherfuckers hate the ACLU because FAUX News and your King Rush Limbaugh tells you to dontcha?

Amputate Your Head · 08-29-2010, 03:48 PM

Any privacy people still think they have in 2010 is just an illusion. Privacy has been gone for years.

damnage · 08-29-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Any privacy people still think they have in 2010 is just an illusion. Privacy has been gone for years.

True.

I wonder how this generation is going to cope considering the most intimate details are plastered everywhere.....

Kiopa_Matt · 08-29-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Oh it's more than obvious they can track you in different ways, but what does that have to do with this? Are you in favor of the ruling?

No, but what would you like me to do? Grab my hair, and run around in circles screaming?

Actually, I'll just live happily every after, anonymously in Thailand. Suits me just fine.

SpongeBub · 08-29-2010, 05:28 PM

I'll bet if I needed to care about such a thing, I could buy a device that would tell me if there was a tracking device on my car. It won't matter soon anyhow - they will have little drone planes that can track anyone. Cheaper to operate than helicopters and they take less gas.

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Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	California gets scarier Government agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway ? and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements. That is the bizarre ? and scary ? rule that now applies in California and eight other Western states. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which covers this vast jurisdiction, recently decided the government can monitor you in this way virtually anytime it wants ? with no need for a search warrant. Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz0xxs0rURF __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

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Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	haha... next paragraph. Wow. It is a dangerous decision — one that, as the dissenting judges warned, could turn America into the sort of totalitarian state imagined by George Orwell. It is particularly offensive because the judges added insult to injury with some shocking class bias: the little personal privacy that still exists, the court suggested, should belong mainly to the rich. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

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Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Taking it a step further with some of your comments about what they can do already anyway, then it stands to reason you don't expect you have any right to privacy. When did this happen? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

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HighEnergy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 806	I personally don't give a rats ass about the GPS usage, whether it's a planted device or my cell. If it's my cell integrated GPS and I dial 911 then I WANT them to know my geo location. If you really want to worry about something then be concerned about the infrared heat sensors that nearly every fire department has. Most cities, towns, communities have NO restriction on their use. So the local patrolmen can pop by the fire station and request a ride-a-long at any time.

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Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	You guys are right. Please give us more Big Government! Maybe Obama will come up with some strong controls and powers, and give us less privacy still, and no one will complain about it. Not because he is black anyway. When I go to bed I will say my prayers for God to especially protect the rich people. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

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Poindexterity Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: America's butthole, TX Posts: 882	if those fools wanna follow you, they're gonna follow you. one way or another, those fuckers are going to know where that car goes if that's what they feel like doing that week. I'd rather they do it with as few of my tax dollars as possible. That being said, I'm sure that those GPS whatsidoddles are cheaper that keeping a helicopter in the air for the time it would take to do the same job. __________________ no sig

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TCLGirls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 3,068	I have a problem with allowing the government agent to enter private property w/o warrant or emergency circumstance. But putting a GPS on a car and following it..I do not have a problem with that. There is no expectation of privacy on a GOVERNMENT funded public road. If you want privacy when driving a car, drive on a PRIVATE road.

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SpongeBub Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 470	I'll bet if I needed to care about such a thing, I could buy a device that would tell me if there was a tracking device on my car. It won't matter soon anyhow - they will have little drone planes that can track anyone. Cheaper to operate than helicopters and they take less gas.