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DirtyDanza · 05-25-2011, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

is that doable? time for the plastic body suit??/

yeah ..... it's hell on the body though.... last time I did 7.8lbs on day of weigh ins and it was hell .. I was ready to quit at the weighins itself waiting on the doc to check us....

I wanted to keep it smooth this time... so I dieted before the cut... and that sucked bigtime.... this week I went from 7000 calories a day to 1200...... went from 158 to where im at now since monday.....

Cory W · 05-25-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

true, rethinking, having diabetes for 26+ years now, i guess i didn't realize i don't even see those sorts of things on the menu anymore. so it doesn't even register on my radar enough to say "no way". know what i mean? i don't eat candy or even ever get craving for candy. but i find that hfcs sneeks in to things that are surprising to me, so i am always on the lookout for it.

i do enjoy a crazy dessert concoction on occasion. chocolate!

Yeah, I know what you mean. Some things you'd never even think it had that in it.

Chocolate? I have pure chocolate once every couple of weeks : ) Its good for me : ) Lots of good stuff in it. I don't have hersheys, but I have the pure stuff, I forget the name.

dyna mo · 05-25-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vjo

Ok, first of all my neighbor, a lil wirey guy of about 140 lbs of solid muscle. The guy is a state championship high school wrestling champ now about 45. He mows with a push mower. Hand shovels the walk and driveway as fast as I can blow it.

Ok thing is he is always grilling huge cuts of meat. I think he has also learned that protien is what men really need. (women too for that matter)

He prob learned as wrestlers do that to cut carbs is how he lost weight for matches and his good eating carried over. But I noticed that and I started to realize he eats a lot of meat (and prob not much simple carbs)

But very interesting as something you said clicked as i also feel best when I am eating meat or fish and worse eating carbs. I swear. In fact I almost always feel bad on all but the most complex of carbs like beans.

I gave up whole wheat bread a while back (unless it is seriously very whole wheat) and white bread way back. But we all prob do eat too many carbs. I have a lot of the same symptoms you are saying as well as a lot of antacids being needed for carbs but hardly not needed at all for protiens. And not needed at all for fish or chicken.

Really the vast majority of carbs are man made junk. Refined being the keyword.

I noticed the cheapest food out there (yeah money is always tight

) are also the best for you (except protein.. beef and fish which is is high priced but for the carbs only.. all the best carbs are the original carbs.. Beans, potatoes, true whole wheat. As soon as man gets in there and refines it is junk.

Beans are one of the carbs (actually a legume) which are really more along the lines of protien with lots of fiber.

Eating beans dishes is the best for you. 4 cans of beans is 3 bucks and lasts a week.

Plus a little seasoning. I usually eat it with potatoes or whole grain rice (not the best) or brown (very good but tasteless) or wild (the best) rice. Technically wild is a grain and not a rice.

(beans plus rice = complete protein) but beans baby will take the weight off if you keep the other junk out. Fiber up the wazoo.

I have fallen in love with beans.

beans beans the magical fruit!

do you eat lentils? very good for you and cheap too.

Theo · 05-25-2011, 09:43 PM

Your topic did inspire me to start a diet.

dyna mo · 05-25-2011, 09:44 PM

vjo, you also bring up a good point- protein. i was reading the other day that the human body is comprised of over 100,000 different proteins.

we need our protein. that and fat are the required macronutrients. carbs, no. but i find i do better when i have some carbs throughout the day. usually 50g-100g, depending on my activity level for that day.

dyna mo · 05-25-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AVN Theo

Your topic did inspire me to start a diet.

SCORE!

let us know how it goes eh

Vjo · 05-25-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory W

First time I did it, I went to Whole Foods and bought two enormous NY Steaks. It comforted me. I had nightmares also for about a week.

I learned from one of the forums to always use the word "allergy" around other people at first, just so, and wait for it, they didn't feel like you were commenting on their lives by turning down cake. You see, its easier to tell someone you will die if you eat the cake than it is to tell them that you think its horrible for the body. : ) Because they feel like you are remarking on them. Food is like religion. Its an amazing discovery its all been, that's for sure.

But the fact that you are posting in this thread already puts you ahead of 90 percent of people. In one year you will laugh at how easy it actually is.

Great idea. There is nothing better than a good cut of beef.

Hmm yeah I am sort of socially retarded hehe so I am sure I make all the guffaws.

It is all about habits and making new better ones. I am on my way.

As you get a lil older around the big 5-0 you realize it is stupid to be carrying around excess weight. But for many of us, we can excel in various areas of life (or not) but learning how to correctly eat evades us.

It is really prob just as easy as if you eat sugar or corn syrup or highly processed yucky carbs (which is what they are) that you get fat. Simple human biology. But noone really says, YES that is what it is. So we go along thinking we are different or maybe just in the fog and we nibble on a little junk each day.

Maybe just a chocolate bar, two corn syrup filled "fruit slices"

, a small bowl of pasta, a white flour tortilla at work and maybe we splerge from time to time and have a bad night and eat 3 bars and 6 "slices". This is enough to sabatage our loss.

It is going cold turkey that is hardest to do but maybe is the only real way. In fact it is the only way.

Did Arnold or Franco Columbu sneak a hershey bar when they were training for Mr Olympia? NO!

Maybe the real thing is you (I

not you guys you're all in shape

) have to get SERIOUS and not do it half way.

It is all about getting serious and committing.

Vjo · 05-25-2011, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

beans beans the magical fruit!

do you eat lentils? very good for you and cheap too.

oh they are magical that's for sure

but nothing like maltitol but that is another thread

I thought I was gonna cheat "life" and give up sugar so I stocked up on a bit of maltitol candies.

Russel Stovers has some good ones. Everything from peanut clusters to toffee to mints, you name it. So they taste just like sugared candies but made with maltitol. Same calories but no harm to the teeth. Does not attack teeth.

But ooooooooh man they are like beans cubed.

They even warn ya on the bag. That ended that.

Ya know I havent really had lentils maybe once or twice. Like lentil soup. But I like "good for you and cheap".

My kind of food.

Will check em out.

Vjo · 05-25-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

vjo, you also bring up a good point- protein. i was reading the other day that the human body is comprised of over 100,000 different proteins.

we need our protein. that and fat are the required macronutrients. carbs, no. but i find i do better when i have some carbs throughout the day. usually 50g-100g, depending on my activity level for that day.

Cool man. You really got it down. I appreciate you all reading through my stuff and giving good advice. Seriously I do. It takes time to slowly day by day reprogram ourselves and get good knowledge when we go shopping to replace candy with let's say dates.

Dates another wonder food. High fiber. Very tasty. Goes great with coconut which is also good for you if it is unsweetened and unprocessed too much. Real is best but you got to get the Survivor machete out then.

Cali has those great jumbo dates

I go with Amport here which are often on sale for $2 a box. Great deal. Great for you. Does not attack the teeth

Very important. We dont want to spend money on dentists (anymore

) either.

Vjo · 05-25-2011, 10:52 PM

Instead of "Oh I could of had a V8" it should be, "Oh I could of had a date".

I always forget about dates even when I have em in the house. Have to put em right on the front shelf of the fridge. I dont know why, I like dates. They just are easily forgotten.

Thankfully nothing last like dates except maybe Turkish apricots

If a "fruit slice" (I know, bad boy, bad boy - the worst.. high fructose corn syrup) is available I am conditioned to go for it.

But I am changing.

Vjo · 05-25-2011, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

yeah ..... it's hell on the body though.... last time I did 7.8lbs on day of weigh ins and it was hell .. I was ready to quit at the weighins itself waiting on the doc to check us....

I wanted to keep it smooth this time... so I dieted before the cut... and that sucked bigtime.... this week I went from 7000 calories a day to 1200...... went from 158 to where im at now since monday.....

Hey that's coming up isnt it. Give em hell.

Some pretty major athletes in this thread.

I commend you for not being annoyed with all my ramblings if your only on 1200 cals.

Ya know.. one more thing.. I noticed that MMA athletes and this relates to what Cory was saying, and who are no doubt some of the finest athletes in modern time, after getting beat on and sometimes losing they still do not get all angry and still keep a level head.

Like when Randy Couture lost this last time and he really got clobbered he still has the calmness to talk coherantly about what happened and he doesnt get all worked up.

What I'm saying is really highly trained athletes like you DD and really Cory and Dyna Mo as well have a certain peace about you, a certain natural high that I believe only comes from having your body in fantastic shape.

It is really commendable. Kind of like George Reeves in the old Superman was. Always calm and amicable and pleasant to be around. They have an air of confidence. They know they are tough. They dont have to have an ego along for the ride all the time.

You really see that in MMA fighters. A humbleness and natural peace and clarity.

That is a pretty cool side benefit of being in great shape.

Thanks everyone.

vano · 05-26-2011, 12:27 AM

good job

ShellyCrash · 05-26-2011, 06:07 AM

Curious. Do you think the diet is doable if you can't eat raw veggies, high fiber foods and only eat seafood for meat? Would you have to eat seafood every day? Are there any cooked veggies you could do?

dyna mo · 05-26-2011, 06:44 AM

woohoo, the carb load is kicking in, getting that full look again. whew.!! lolz

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

Curious. Do you think the diet is doable if you can't eat raw veggies, high fiber foods and only eat seafood for meat? Would you have to eat seafood every day? Are there any cooked veggies you could do?

hmm, i don't see why not, broccoli for sure. i just searched through the book and there's nothing in there that requires raw vegetables. in fact, i started it off nibbling celery sticks throughout the day, but quickly tired of that and stopped and i was fine.

but also, the fiber is a crucial component of this diet (and any eating plan, imo) so shoot for at least 30g of fiber a day, and more if you can.

seafood, for sure, no problem. i'd look for the wild caught fish so you get the nutrients they provide that are not in farm-raised fish, wild salmon is loaded with nutrition, for instance. the fish oil is also very important for this diet.

Bladewire · 05-26-2011, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

OH and I thought you were Asian!

Great work on the weight loss! Congratulations on the reward for your hard work and dedication

dyna mo · 05-26-2011, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit

OH and I thought you were Asian!

Great work on the weight loss! Congratulations on the reward for your hard work and dedication

asian? never got that one before!

thx eh.

Fucksakes · 05-26-2011, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

asian? never got that one before!

thx eh.

your def Canadian eh

can I contact you via icq?

dyna mo · 05-26-2011, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fucksakes

your def Canadian eh

can I contact you via icq?

naw, i just like saying eh eh.

i don't have icq at this time but you can email me
info at takechargefood.com

Internet User · 05-26-2011, 07:38 AM

Man, you don't look good.

You skin looks old and unhealthy. You also look malnourished.

Eat some meat.

Fucksakes · 05-26-2011, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I don't want to be less hungry, then I wouldn't be eating as much, meaning I would be dropping weight. I don't want to lose weight, I want to put on about 30-50 lbs, which isn't going to happen, ever.

hang out with my ex-gf.

dyna mo · 05-26-2011, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Internet User

Man, you don't look good.

You skin looks old and unhealthy. You also look malnourished.

Eat some meat.

lolz, i'll be 47 years old in 2 months, and have had insulin-dependent diabetes for over 1/2 my life yet i am in top health, according to my endo.

get back to me when you're 47, managed a disease that kills and debilitates for 2+ decades and we'll compare how you look to how i look.

tony286 · 05-26-2011, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo

Great idea. There is nothing better than a good cut of beef.

Hmm yeah I am sort of socially retarded hehe so I am sure I make all the guffaws.

It is all about habits and making new better ones. I am on my way.

As you get a lil older around the big 5-0 you realize it is stupid to be carrying around excess weight. But for many of us, we can excel in various areas of life (or not) but learning how to correctly eat evades us.

It is really prob just as easy as if you eat sugar or corn syrup or highly processed yucky carbs (which is what they are) that you get fat. Simple human biology. But noone really says, YES that is what it is. So we go along thinking we are different or maybe just in the fog and we nibble on a little junk each day.

Maybe just a chocolate bar, two corn syrup filled "fruit slices"

, a small bowl of pasta, a white flour tortilla at work and maybe we splerge from time to time and have a bad night and eat 3 bars and 6 "slices". This is enough to sabatage our loss.

It is going cold turkey that is hardest to do but maybe is the only real way. In fact it is the only way.

Did Arnold or Franco Columbu sneak a hershey bar when they were training for Mr Olympia? NO!

Maybe the real thing is you (I

not you guys you're all in shape

) have to get SERIOUS and not do it half way.

It is all about getting serious and committing.

Actually in Arnolds book, he spoke about how franco never had to diet for a contest. How he would laugh at arnold dieting while he ate bowls of pasta.Also their metabolism was on fire, they worked out twice a day 6 days a week.Most of them back then did very little cardio.

dyna mo · 05-26-2011, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Actually in Arnolds book, he spoke about how franco never had to diet for a contest. How he would laugh at arnold dieting while he ate bowls of pasta.Also their metabolism was on fire, they worked out twice a day 6 days a week.Most of them back then did very little cardio.

Tony! where the hell u been?

DirtyDanza · 05-26-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

lolz, i'll be 47 years old in 2 months, and have had insulin-dependent diabetes for over 1/2 my life yet i am in top health, according to my endo.

get back to me when you're 47, managed a disease that kills and debilitates for 2+ decades and we'll compare how you look to how i look.

where is the like button on here

CaptainHowdy · 05-26-2011, 09:41 AM

There some serious last man talk on this thread ...

dyna mo · 05-26-2011, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

There some serious last man talk on this thread ...

please take your misery elsewhere. not sure what your problem is with me, i've never come up against you but this is yet another thread of mine you've chosen to post your negative, zero-value comments in.

Icy · 05-26-2011, 10:35 AM

Great thread, motivating for sure and could help me to reach my final goal.

I'm 35 years old, and while i have always loved sports, and was once a gym rat, for the past 5 years i have dedicated most of the time to work, sitting in front of a PC for hours and gaining weight (fat) while losing my once nice muscles.

It changed 6 months ago, i joined a soccer team in an amateur league, I noticed how slow i was and how sore after the preseason games, so i started to run also, then the gymhaand then to take care of my diet etc. Once you start to feel better, things become easier.

In the past 6 months i have lost 20lbs with moderate diet (basically mediterranean diet but trying to cut carbs a bit), eating vegetables, salads and grilled non fat meat and fish and mainly due to increasing my exercise levels a lot as i said.

Currently I go to the gym 3 days per week, run 40 minutes 2 days per week and play a competitive soccer game once per week.

Now i'm stuck at my weight for like 2 months, i'm happy as the loss is very noticeable, i have also gained a lot of muscle and i get praised by people around me all the time for the change but i want to lose a bit more of fat so the new grown muscles won't be hidden behind the fat.

I'm tempted to try your diet in a month or so, to give the final push and to break this wall, to lose the final 8 pounds i want to lose to reach my weight in my early twenties but without losing a lot of the muscle i have gained in the past 6 months (plus i still need to play 5 more games to end the soccer season so i need some energy in the tank).

The ketogenic diets have always been my fav ones, some people feel like shit when cutting carbs, but for me is the opposite, the more "carbs hungry" i feel, the more motivated i get to keep trying. It's like when you feel slightly sore after a good training session (once you are trained enough, first days sore after years of not doing anything is so painful), it feels great, like that you have done your homework.

Cory W · 05-27-2011, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Icy

Great thread, motivating for sure and could help me to reach my final goal.

I'm 35 years old, and while i have always loved sports, and was once a gym rat, for the past 5 years i have dedicated most of the time to work, sitting in front of a PC for hours and gaining weight (fat) while losing my once nice muscles.

It changed 6 months ago, i joined a soccer team in an amateur league, I noticed how slow i was and how sore after the preseason games, so i started to run also, then the gymhaand then to take care of my diet etc. Once you start to feel better, things become easier.

In the past 6 months i have lost 20lbs with moderate diet (basically mediterranean diet but trying to cut carbs a bit), eating vegetables, salads and grilled non fat meat and fish and mainly due to increasing my exercise levels a lot as i said.

Currently I go to the gym 3 days per week, run 40 minutes 2 days per week and play a competitive soccer game once per week.

Now i'm stuck at my weight for like 2 months, i'm happy as the loss is very noticeable, i have also gained a lot of muscle and i get praised by people around me all the time for the change but i want to lose a bit more of fat so the new grown muscles won't be hidden behind the fat.

I'm tempted to try your diet in a month or so, to give the final push and to break this wall, to lose the final 8 pounds i want to lose to reach my weight in my early twenties but without losing a lot of the muscle i have gained in the past 6 months (plus i still need to play 5 more games to end the soccer season so i need some energy in the tank).

The ketogenic diets have always been my fav ones, some people feel like shit when cutting carbs, but for me is the opposite, the more "carbs hungry" i feel, the more motivated i get to keep trying. It's like when you feel slightly sore after a good training session (once you are trained enough, first days sore after years of not doing anything is so painful), it feels great, like that you have done your homework.

I will not speak to anyone trying to gain muscle weight, its not something i have ever really been interested in. I do however box, surf, and play basketball. I grew up my entire life with people telling me to eat a lot of carbs. But funny enough, I began to notice that the days I didn't eat, I performed better, and for longer durations. I am pretty much always ketogenic, I am 35 as well.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...238594818.html
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=5021601
http://www.nba.com/suns/news/feature...et_090709.html

atom · 05-27-2011, 10:01 AM

Looking good Dyna! I'm another person you have inspired to take charge of their health/diet.

Love these posts, I always learn something new!

dyna mo · 05-27-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by atom

Looking good Dyna! I'm another person you have inspired to take charge of their health/diet.

Love these posts, I always learn something new!

ola amigo, good to hear! how goes it these days?

atom · 05-27-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

ola amigo, good to hear! how goes it these days?

Doing very well, have a bunch of mainstream projects kicking ass. Still doing some adult stuff.

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Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	Instead of "Oh I could of had a V8" it should be, "Oh I could of had a date". I always forget about dates even when I have em in the house. Have to put em right on the front shelf of the fridge. I dont know why, I like dates. They just are easily forgotten. Thankfully nothing last like dates except maybe Turkish apricots If a "fruit slice" (I know, bad boy, bad boy - the worst.. high fructose corn syrup) is available I am conditioned to go for it. But I am changing. Last edited by Vjo; 05-25-2011 at 10:55 PM..

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Icy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 864	Great thread, motivating for sure and could help me to reach my final goal. I'm 35 years old, and while i have always loved sports, and was once a gym rat, for the past 5 years i have dedicated most of the time to work, sitting in front of a PC for hours and gaining weight (fat) while losing my once nice muscles. It changed 6 months ago, i joined a soccer team in an amateur league, I noticed how slow i was and how sore after the preseason games, so i started to run also, then the gymhaand then to take care of my diet etc. Once you start to feel better, things become easier. In the past 6 months i have lost 20lbs with moderate diet (basically mediterranean diet but trying to cut carbs a bit), eating vegetables, salads and grilled non fat meat and fish and mainly due to increasing my exercise levels a lot as i said. Currently I go to the gym 3 days per week, run 40 minutes 2 days per week and play a competitive soccer game once per week. Now i'm stuck at my weight for like 2 months, i'm happy as the loss is very noticeable, i have also gained a lot of muscle and i get praised by people around me all the time for the change but i want to lose a bit more of fat so the new grown muscles won't be hidden behind the fat. I'm tempted to try your diet in a month or so, to give the final push and to break this wall, to lose the final 8 pounds i want to lose to reach my weight in my early twenties but without losing a lot of the muscle i have gained in the past 6 months (plus i still need to play 5 more games to end the soccer season so i need some energy in the tank). The ketogenic diets have always been my fav ones, some people feel like shit when cutting carbs, but for me is the opposite, the more "carbs hungry" i feel, the more motivated i get to keep trying. It's like when you feel slightly sore after a good training session (once you are trained enough, first days sore after years of not doing anything is so painful), it feels great, like that you have done your homework. __________________ Kimia: Make money with mobile traffic, both adult and mainstream Skype: sinlords - ICQ: 83-235-881 email: ivan at kimia.mobi

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05-25-2011, 09:43 PM	#104
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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 64,566	vjo, you also bring up a good point- protein. i was reading the other day that the human body is comprised of over 100,000 different proteins. we need our protein. that and fat are the required macronutrients. carbs, no. but i find i do better when i have some carbs throughout the day. usually 50g-100g, depending on my activity level for that day.

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05-26-2011, 07:38 AM	#119
Internet User So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Location: New York Posts: 544	Man, you don't look good. You skin looks old and unhealthy. You also look malnourished. Eat some meat.