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V_RocKs · 06-01-2011, 07:47 PM

would be nice to see time frames on prodjects

JFK · 06-01-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

They have great poutine in Montreal.

you tried it as well ?

gideongallery · 06-01-2011, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

They're gone, except for the youtube embed sites which will remain as they link to the original content and Google has correct removal procedures in place for rights holders.

google's removal process is no different that manwins

in fact google puts a warning before the takedown to make sure your 100% aware of the liablity for taking down fair use.

Love Sex · 06-01-2011, 09:00 PM

Atleast your getting a response from nathan/manwin

Have fun with

thepiratebay.org
megaporn.com/video
pornbb.org
tnaflix.com
cheggit.net

the list goes on......

The Porn Nerd · 06-01-2011, 09:07 PM

Is it worth it to start your own legal tube anymore? Damn.

Seth Manson · 06-01-2011, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Is it worth it to start your own legal tube anymore? Damn.

Just one? Not unless you really know how to build traffic and already have a traffic network in place. Or some old domains that wont get sandboxed when you load them up with 50 updates a day

Now imagine if you had over a hundred domains like that...

Nathan · 06-01-2011, 11:26 PM

AK, I have agreed to an API approach, not some list you expect us to honor...

That just as a side note.

SZNY · 06-02-2011, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Initially you wont need to upload anything, just add what you don't want published by tubes to a database.

When we fingerprint video my plan is that the fingerprint software will run locally on your machine and upload a profile to the database for use by the API offered to tube sites.

However it's early days, as people come on board they may bring other ideas to the table, The aim will be to form an independent entity to run this whole operation where the costs are largely born by the tubes to serve the member content rights holders who want to protect their content from theft.

Who will fund the development costs?

For sure this API will be in fact an API holding a set of APIs since everyone using different tech, frameworks and DB models.

I think the most simple to do is ask any Tube owners to produce a list of their clips who have a bigger file size as clips (2-5 minutes) and which is user generated.

Try to find matches / patterns of the uploaders, check out what sites they promote, try to get their affiliate IDs at various programs and exchange the data (don't know if this is legal) and deactivate their accounts or sue them.

Fingerprinting and tagging mechanisms to match vids is probably also possible but that will be a hell of a job and for sure you need all tube owners like Manwin to be cooperative in this process.

Dirty Dane · 06-02-2011, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

no you moron the user had one video left up AFTER getting banned for MULTIPLE tos violations/copyright infringements

that clearly proves your "if the account is banned all the videos go poof" arguement was false.

No you moron, user only posted ONE video and was banned for something else.

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

total bullshit the safe harbor was designed to prevent this exact type of censorship.

It was not designed to prevent censorship, but to prevent liability.
Once again you show lack of basic knowledge of DMCA and its purpose. It's written in DMCA that they must not know about the infringements and they must act upon on the obvious or suspection. You may call acting on criminal activities "censorship" as much you like, but in the real world that logic doesn't apply or give you less liability.

AdultKing · 06-02-2011, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

AK, I have agreed to an API approach, not some list you expect us to honor...

That just as a side note.

You already have people screening content, for rape cp and other nasties, screening from a database of videos that copyright holders deny you the right to have is no different. If you can't do that until the full tech solution then we may have to think about some other options. Those options would not favor you.

I suggest you play ball, because there is a hell of a list of people so far willing to assist bringing Manwin in to line.

Once the site is up for content holders to register ( which should be soon we just delegated the domain ) that list will grow further.

Wake up and smell the roses Nathan, if people deny you the right to host their video content then you are bound to ensure you don't. If you continue to host content against peoples wishes then Manwin is a pariah - and will be dealt with as such.

Today I tasked our search engine team to write an crawler specifically to monitor your tubes and about 28 others, we will be able to generate daily stats of video removals and replacement after removal, those figures will be released publicly for transparency purposes.

By the end of June we expect to be crawling your tube sites every day in their entirety and comparing each crawl index with each successive day. This will help further down the line to audit your compliance with any industry run scheme to bring tubes under control.

gideongallery · 06-02-2011, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

No you moron, user only posted ONE video and was banned for something else.

really

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sus89 has been terminated due to repeated or severe violations of our Community Guidelines and/or claims of copyright infringement.

you made that same bullshit arguement the last time i proved this fact

like i said before

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no i am saying you have no clue, the video example i just showed you proves that youtube does not delete all the videos from an account when they bann an account

the video is still up
the account is gone, that would never happen if all the videos are deleted when the account is banned.

you are talking out of your ass

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17642428&postcount=184

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It was not designed to prevent censorship, but to prevent liability.
Once again you show lack of basic knowledge of DMCA and its purpose. It's written in DMCA that they must not know about the infringements and they must act upon on the obvious or suspection. You may call acting on criminal activities "censorship" as much you like, but in the real world that logic doesn't apply or give you less liability.

idiot do you understand the difference between a purpose and a practise

they didn't just decide to give hosts a blanket immunity for no reason

they decided to give a host a blanket immunity to prevent censorship

to avoid having the new takedown being abused to censor legitimate free speech (thru fair use)

go back and read the discussion about th law when it was being debated.

biris · 06-02-2011, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

I think they will buy you if it becomes a success.

hahahaha!!!

Dirty Dane · 06-02-2011, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

no i am saying you have no clue, the video example i just showed you proves that youtube does not delete all the videos from an account when they bann an account

The video is still up

O'really??

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This video has been removed because its content violated YouTube's Terms of Service.

Sorry about that.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wCdB8Pulcto

Now, please STFU!

gideongallery · 06-02-2011, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

O'really??

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wCdB8Pulcto

Now, please STFU!

idiot what exactly about the statement

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the video stay up until someone makes an actual complaint about them

do you not understand

the video was up the entire time we were previousy talking about this issue

it only came down when someone made a specific complaint about that video.

Dirty Dane · 06-02-2011, 03:32 AM

blah blah blah... stop trolling, Gideon.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 06-02-2011, 03:48 AM

ADG

seeandsee · 06-02-2011, 04:01 AM

333 attacks!

Nathan · 06-02-2011, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

You already have people screening content, for rape cp and other nasties, screening from a database of videos that copyright holders deny you the right to have is no different. If you can't do that until the full tech solution then we may have to think about some other options. Those options would not favor you.

I suggest you play ball, because there is a hell of a list of people so far willing to assist bringing Manwin in to line.

Once the site is up for content holders to register ( which should be soon we just delegated the domain ) that list will grow further.

Wake up and smell the roses Nathan, if people deny you the right to host their video content then you are bound to ensure you don't. If you continue to host content against peoples wishes then Manwin is a pariah - and will be dealt with as such.

Today I tasked our search engine team to write an crawler specifically to monitor your tubes and about 28 others, we will be able to generate daily stats of video removals and replacement after removal, those figures will be released publicly for transparency purposes.

By the end of June we expect to be crawling your tube sites every day in their entirety and comparing each crawl index with each successive day. This will help further down the line to audit your compliance with any industry run scheme to bring tubes under control.

You smell the roses AK, if you provide us with a technical system to screen, we will have no problem implementing it. A simple list will not be used.

Do whatever you think...

Nathan · 06-02-2011, 04:25 AM

AK, please do never assume you can intimidate me, anyone else at Manwin or Manwin itself.

If you try to FORCE us into anything, it will backfire! Work together with us, and I have no problem helping you achieve your goals.

AdultKing · 06-02-2011, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

AK, please do never assume you can intimidate me, anyone else at Manwin or Manwin itself.

If you try to FORCE us into anything, it will backfire! Work together with us, and I have no problem helping you achieve your goals.

I'm happy to work with you on this Nathan, I have said repeatedly that I have no beef with you personally, I don't know how much clearer I can make that.

However an API and fingerprinting solution will not be developed overnight, it would not kill you to use a well designed online database to check against when you do your other content checks as you have already stated you do.

As far as intimidation goes, that's a strong word, I prefer the word "disincentivize".

I think it's time we had a frank exchange of views on the phone, if you have 20 minutes or so anytime in the next week I have no doubt we can find a mutually acceptable interim measure before a full blown technical solution is adopted. What do you think ?

AdultKing · 06-02-2011, 06:21 AM

For people waiting for our register of interest, it should be online shortly, we had a DNS issue which is being fixed to make the website accessible.

DamianJ · 06-02-2011, 06:22 AM

This is hilarious. It's like a kid with a water pistol squaring up to a chieftan tank.

Roald · 06-02-2011, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

You already have people screening content, for rape cp and other nasties, screening from a database of videos that copyright holders deny you the right to have is no different. If you can't do that until the full tech solution then we may have to think about some other options. Those options would not favor you.

I suggest you play ball, because there is a hell of a list of people so far willing to assist bringing Manwin in to line.

Once the site is up for content holders to register ( which should be soon we just delegated the domain ) that list will grow further.

Wake up and smell the roses Nathan, if people deny you the right to host their video content then you are bound to ensure you don't. If you continue to host content against peoples wishes then Manwin is a pariah - and will be dealt with as such.

Today I tasked our search engine team to write an crawler specifically to monitor your tubes and about 28 others, we will be able to generate daily stats of video removals and replacement after removal, those figures will be released publicly for transparency purposes.

By the end of June we expect to be crawling your tube sites every day in their entirety and comparing each crawl index with each successive day. This will help further down the line to audit your compliance with any industry run scheme to bring tubes under control.

lol mob much?

AdultKing · 06-02-2011, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

This is hilarious. It's like a kid with a water pistol squaring up to a chieftan tank.

If I am holding a water pistol at an army tank, then what are the people on my mailing list who would dearly love to fuck Manwin over because of their content being stolen. I have tried to calm the waters and I am trying now to create an industry wide solution, sure I may fall flat on my face and fail, but at least I am trying something. What are you doing ?

mpahlca · 06-02-2011, 07:08 AM

This is silly, Vobile does exactly what he is saying already and is on tubes now. Why are you discussing creating another solution that manwin and most other tubes use already? (thanks topbucks)

BFT3K · 06-02-2011, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

ADG

Yup, those are some big and shiny letters alright!

AdultKing · 06-02-2011, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

This is silly, Vobile does exactly what he is saying already and is on tubes now. Why are you discussing creating another solution that manwin and most other tubes use already? (thanks topbucks)

Then why are so many people complaining that tubes are stealing their content ?

Robbie · 06-02-2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

This is silly, Vobile does exactly what he is saying already and is on tubes now. Why are you discussing creating another solution that manwin and most other tubes use already? (thanks topbucks)

Can you name 20 tube sites using Vobile? Or is Pornhub even using it? I just went to pornhub...looks no different than it did before.

Agent 488 · 06-02-2011, 08:38 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions

BAKO · 06-02-2011, 08:41 AM

Now i heard and seen it all. Time to retire like Shap

Nathan · 06-02-2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

I'm happy to work with you on this Nathan, I have said repeatedly that I have no beef with you personally, I don't know how much clearer I can make that.

However an API and fingerprinting solution will not be developed overnight, it would not kill you to use a well designed online database to check against when you do your other content checks as you have already stated you do.

As far as intimidation goes, that's a strong word, I prefer the word "disincentivize".

I think it's time we had a frank exchange of views on the phone, if you have 20 minutes or so anytime in the next week I have no doubt we can find a mutually acceptable interim measure before a full blown technical solution is adopted. What do you think ?

As I said, API is not a problem, anything else will not work, for many many reasons... I do not really see a reason why we need to talk on the phone about this.

Nathan · 06-02-2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Can you name 20 tube sites using Vobile? Or is Pornhub even using it? I just went to pornhub...looks no different than it did before.

PornHub
Spankwire
Tube8
Extremtube
KeezMovies
XTube
(Working on adding it to YouPorn since the day we bought it)
TNAFlix
EmpFlix
YouJizz
JizzHut
The other 2 Jizz tubes
XHamster

That's 13, I am rather sure I am missing a few though.

Why so many people complain? Because they complain that Vobile costs money to fingerprint content. Although per scene it really does not add a lot of costs on top of production.

troncarver · 06-02-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Then why are so many people complaining that tubes are stealing their content ?

if you spent more time working on your site and its design then spending hours on your avatar and arguing on gfy then you might have more traffic to your site

LOL Money Money LOL

DWB · 06-02-2011, 01:14 PM

Is Manwin dead yet?

I have this unbelievable yearning to dance around like a Munchkin and sing "Ding-Dong! The Witch Is Dead."

Roald · 06-02-2011, 01:15 PM

350 attacks!

The Porn Nerd · 06-02-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

350 attacks!

Roald, has Manwin made an offer to buy Freeones yet? How much?

96ukssob · 06-02-2011, 01:54 PM

this thread is spreading like FIRE!

matuloo · 06-02-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Come back here in 2 years - on June 1st, 2013

The porn tubes you know of today, will be gone... or completely unrecognizable at a minimum.

Why do you think so? You have any solid backup for this? Cause if you do I have a reason to continue in this biz ... like I wouldnt anyways

LOL

matuloo · 06-02-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Roald, has Manwin made an offer to buy Freeones yet? How much?

Of all sites out there I know of, freeones should be the last one available for sale. Its one of the few that is still making big bucks and the most important part - the site is a sustainable profitable operation

Then again, everything has its price, but in this case the price should be ridiculously HIGH !!!

Nicky · 06-02-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Roald, has Manwin made an offer to buy Freeones yet? How much?

Rumor has It Roald tried to sell freeones to Fabian for a back-rub and a grilled cheese sammich when he was drunk on cider.

AdultKing · 06-02-2011, 11:39 PM

Nathan,

Just some questions, seeing as you wont let me chat to you on the phone to sort out some issues,

What is your turn around time for a DMCA ?
Do you accept DMCA's by email ?
How many breaches does an uploader have to make to be banned from your tubes ?
What strategies do you employ to prevent repeat publishing of content that has previously been the subject of a DMCA ?

thanks

Nathan · 06-03-2011, 12:22 AM

AK,

1) Can't pin-point it to an exact max number, but 99% of the time, less than 12 hours.

2) Yes

3) It depends on a few things since its automated, but usually 3-strike principle. 3rd strike bans them.

4) we are working on various way to get this done, but its not simple. We are looking into our own fingerprinting tech, until that is done, we can not really do anything (neither is it directly required by DMCA). If you have a suggestion of a good fingerprinting tech I should have my IT team look at among the ones they are already checking, let me know.

AdultKing · 06-03-2011, 02:04 AM

Thanks for the replies Fabian. They're helpful in trying to work out an interim solution that fits with your current structures.

Rangermoore · 06-03-2011, 03:28 AM

This is good reading..

mikesinner · 06-03-2011, 03:26 PM

kill illegal tubes. Do whatever you have to in order to throw a wrench in their works.

If some guy can run a tube with stolen content in it and then earn revenue from cams and dating then anyone can.

Robbie · 06-03-2011, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

We are looking into our own fingerprinting tech, until that is done, we can not really do anything (neither is it directly required by DMCA). If you have a suggestion of a good fingerprinting tech I should have my IT team look at among the ones they are already checking, let me know.

Hey, what happened to the big Vobile deal? I thought that was supposed to save everybody?

marketsmart · 06-03-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Hey, what happened to the big Vobile deal? I thought that was supposed to save everybody?

Only Jesus can save everyone..

Would you like to be saved this weekend?

I might be able to get a hold of someone that can save you from eternal damnation, but you must act now... the end of times is only a year and a half away...

.

AdultKing · 06-03-2011, 06:30 PM

We are going to be working on illegal tubes, I saw a post on DP last night that made my blood boil. A Pakistani offering to upload full length videos from to tubes for cash in their Buy & Sell forums. He was cheap too for the time involved in doing so, about $5 - $10 for 10 videos uploaded.

It's time to end this Tube crap and really start putting pressure on hosting companies etc.

Nathan is open to doing the right thing from his end, let's try to get some of the others to follow suit.

The website for registration of interest will be up this weekend, I have had DNS issues with it thanks to one of my lazy tech staff who got a roasting yesterday, I've fixed it, once the DNS has propagated I will make a new thread announcing the site where content owners can register their interest in working toward ending the tube problem, or causing pain to those who don't comply.

Nathan · 06-03-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Hey, what happened to the big Vobile deal? I thought that was supposed to save everybody?

Not so easy to read huh?

What you quoted has nothing to do with Vobile. Vobile is up and running on all our tubes. So if the content is tagged by Vobile it will never even go up.

My comment was in regards to content that was NOT tagged by vobile, uploaded, DMCAd and at a later stage uploaded again in part or in full, possibly recut, or slightly altered. Thus making a simple hash algo ineffective in matching it.

Nathan · 06-04-2011, 06:54 AM

Any news?

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AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,605	Nathan, Just some questions, seeing as you wont let me chat to you on the phone to sort out some issues, What is your turn around time for a DMCA ? Do you accept DMCA's by email ? How many breaches does an uploader have to make to be banned from your tubes ? What strategies do you employ to prevent repeat publishing of content that has previously been the subject of a DMCA ? thanks

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Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	AK, 1) Can't pin-point it to an exact max number, but 99% of the time, less than 12 hours. 2) Yes 3) It depends on a few things since its automated, but usually 3-strike principle. 3rd strike bans them. 4) we are working on various way to get this done, but its not simple. We are looking into our own fingerprinting tech, until that is done, we can not really do anything (neither is it directly required by DMCA). If you have a suggestion of a good fingerprinting tech I should have my IT team look at among the ones they are already checking, let me know. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

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AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,605	Thanks for the replies Fabian. They're helpful in trying to work out an interim solution that fits with your current structures.

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AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,605	We are going to be working on illegal tubes, I saw a post on DP last night that made my blood boil. A Pakistani offering to upload full length videos from to tubes for cash in their Buy & Sell forums. He was cheap too for the time involved in doing so, about $5 - $10 for 10 videos uploaded. It's time to end this Tube crap and really start putting pressure on hosting companies etc. Nathan is open to doing the right thing from his end, let's try to get some of the others to follow suit. The website for registration of interest will be up this weekend, I have had DNS issues with it thanks to one of my lazy tech staff who got a roasting yesterday, I've fixed it, once the DNS has propagated I will make a new thread announcing the site where content owners can register their interest in working toward ending the tube problem, or causing pain to those who don't comply.

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