A person who has no argument often resorts to abuse. :2 cents:

There have been a number of merchant terminations in recent times, however we do not specifically report those.

why not?

Because the big ones are big for a reason. As hard as you work for something, there's someone working just as hard to take it away from you.

Antivirus Software Starts Blocking Pirate Websites

http://torrentfreak.com/anti-virus-pirate-block-140204/

People will learn to use another antivirus to continue downloading stuff.

They don't really need to do that. You can disable the block if you want. I think this is more for future generations. Today?s generation is too stupid and naive to realize a lot of these pirate site exist not only to sell pirated works but to also infect visitors computers with malware. Today crime has the upper hand on the WWW. One day regular people might understand that.

Got to love those malware infested ad networks that accept those sites.

John Adami, operator of OTEUpload (site now closed) and FileHaste (having payment processing problems) sent a DMCA for the Stop File Lockers site. In it he made the following claims.

Obviously we will file a counter notice however there is some irony in a site hosting thousands of titles which are all copyright infringing complaining of copyright infringement, especially when there are no grounds for such a complaint.

Everyone may remember a few pages back in this thread the panicked emails to us trying to set up a deal in order to save OTEUpload.

The new venture of this crowd, FileHaste.com, has already lost some forms of payment processing and we are well advanced toward shutting down their methods of paying uploaders.

money sent. keep doing your stuff please
any plans when FL stop be a big part of adult piracy?
and what's current situations with Fls, big and small? how do they bill now?

I believe they call it "Reaching Deep".

The damage is already done to their reputation among their users due to their payment issues and it was already done with others by their association with WJunction.

Any business operating there is 1 that knowingly "Profits from Piracy"!

We will be making an announcement next week which will be of interest to rights holders and fundamentally progress what we are currently doing.


Many file lockers are gravitating to larger reselling options like Download No Limit, which is a good thing because when we shut down Download No Limit we will impact a lot of file lockers at the one time.

One pirate, sharing pirated software, has this message:

We're continuing to work away at this problem, we shut down accounts every day of the week. There is no doubt we are a significant thorn in the side of people involved in the file locker eco system.

Yes I'm pretty sure your use of the site for a screen shot constitutes Fair Use.

The following sites have lost one or more Payment methods. Most of these are donation buttons. Linked accounts also belonged to uploader payout accounts which are also terminated.

98.142.253.80
acheibr.blogspot.com
akiba-team.com
alloserie.info
asiancollect.blogspot.com
astroddl.net
best-moviez.ws
cahtkjstemakudus.blogspot.com
censuradoveg.blogspot.com
cloverdark.com
conestosiva.blogspot.com
data-comun.blogspot.com
djayjongzki.blogspot.com
download-game-consol.blogspot.com
download-game-consol.blogspot.it
download70.blogspot.com
downloadsupsw.blogspot.com
downloadw.blogspot.com
elajedrez.org
electroanimejp.net
elultimotrueno.com
entrefantasmasybuffyverso.blogspot.com
escbaku2012.blogspot.com
eurovisionartists.blogspot.com
fansofapk.com
filetrack.blogspot.com
filetrack.blogspot.se
filevirtual.blogspot.com
gamerzheat.com
ganstarap.net
getmetal.org
gmrusaku.blogspot.com
insclub.biz
intermilancity.blogspot.com
itcpedia.com
knela-records.blogspot.com
lalokeraece.blogspot.com
lennyteka.blogspot.com
lupindl.com
lusodiscos.net
mayuyeros.me
mega-downloads.eu
mexanime.info
miftahshidiq.blogspot.com
millenium-down.blogspot.com
mymusiic.com
mynavi-expert.pl
nds-extra.blogspot.com
nds-extra.blogspot.mx
noxonsoftwares.blogspot.com
oneclickeverything.com
oskhmer.com
otakutime.com
pabiskylive.blogspot.com
pclives.info
pequepsn.com
premium24h.com
proyecto-jos19.blogspot.com
ps3gamer.com.br
psd4us.com
psyglobe.net
regmo.blogspot.com
seductiondatabase.com
sekai-hentai.blogspot.com
shareunlimited.net
solopelisdeestreno.blogspot.com
synapsemusic.net
thedownloadfilm.blogspot.com
todociber.com.ar
tuslibrosenlinea.blogspot.com
vejatudobaixeaqui.com
veverel.ru
vidainformatica.com
voyeurisfun.com
worldstarhiphopcanada.com

850,000 views, nearly.

1 million by mid to late April.

what about big playaz?

We're working on a number of big projects at the moment.

In the meantime here is our latest list of terminations.

The following sites have had one or more forms of payment processing shut down, most of these were donation buttons. Like all terminated accounts, we will keep monitoring to ensure there is no resumption of processing.

anakonda.com.pl
aicforums.com
livesets-online.com
onlypix.com
ovagames.com
oyunceviri.com
pchatasi.com
piojosas.com
porngaytecas.blogspot.com
rafaelituz.com
rapidareena.net
rockbillyboogie.blogspot.com
serie-tvitalia.com
afinewshq.com
ahmety.com
alientejo-alientejo.net
ancientchinese.net
andersonborges200.blogspot.com
apolis.it
appdn.net
bbwchatzone.com
biteyourapple.net
bizzentte.com
blacklionmusic.com
blindtec.net
blogdopaulinhoh.blogspot.com
bolivianhairmetalforever.blogspot.com
caborgedownload.blogspot.com
ddmutv.com
descargalosimple.com
descargasanimaxnoticias.blogspot.com.ar
dosyaindirelim.com
dublaseries.tv
e-rastrillo.blogspot.com
ebookforchildren-baby.blogspot.com
elvacilonmusical.com
emulasyonturkiye.net
emulasyonturkiye.org
esferabit.com
eslared.blogspot.com
fangtangji.com
film-subtitle-indonesia.blogspot.com
film-subtitle-indonesia.blogspot.jp
frenzyandroid.com
fulltorrent.org
gabber.fm
gamezoneguatemala.com
gfxok.com
grapph.blogspot.com
guilhermecaps.com
gxsubteam.com
happydjs.com
inmassmind.blogspot.com
intercambiosyanime.blogspot.com
kaishii-fansub.com
kametsu.com
kikuslirus.blogspot.com
kikuslirus.blogspot.com.ar
kikuslirus.blogspot.mx
kizomba-zouk.blogspot.com
librosgratiss.blogspot.com
morai-subs.info
mugenguild.com
nembiakbujat.blogspot.com
nido.org
osiol.com.pl
peseditblog.com
pyload.org
rosub-anime-kage.info
sakuraanimes.com
sakuraanimes.com.br
sickworldmusic.com
sineed.com
skidrowallgames.com
skvmovies.com
smwcentral.net
superhitsmp3.blogspot.com
teenwolfitalia.com
teesoft.info
thehouseofportable.blogspot.com
tisfotto.blogspot.com
truequevirtuales.blogspot.com
turomsnds.com
tusportables.com.ar
tusportables.tk
upthrudere.com
vdjsmexico.blogspot.com
x264mediumdrama.blogspot.hu
xav91wii.fr
xboxforum.pl

This thread is having a real impact on file lockers...

In that there will have been, and will continue to be, an increase in the number of new file lockers set up as opposed to the number that have actually been completely shut down. :2 cents:

Incorrect.

There are less file lockers in existence now than when we started in 2012.

AK did a lot, no doubt
FL are weak as never before, and there's much less pirated porn there
ads networks like exo clicks, traffic shop, juicy ads and other seem be bigger challenge in terms of piracy than filelcokers now

but i'm still curious how those fl which still funtion can process their sales. and what have big fl did to get a safe pass with paypal

I used trafficshop and didn't seen any hosted stolen full video in these sites. That's cj's which simply link to tube videos witha thumbnail.

Ad networks that directly or indirectly fund piracy sites will run into very difficult times once they are held accountable for such behaviour. I have used this phrase before and I will use it again, slowly slowly catchy monkey.

Some file lockers have complex webs of corporate entities and use these to obtain merchant accounts by misleading the acquirers about the nature of payments. Others have long standing merchant relationships with acquirers which existed before acquirers became fully versed in the risk profile of file lockers.

There has been a lot of work undertaken by risk companies to educate acquirers and other parties within the card networks about the risks presented by the file locker industry. We have also lobbied banks hard when we become aware of relationships with file lockers. As a result it is very difficult to obtain merchant accounts for file lockers now.

There is still considerable work to be done in this area and it's a large, time consuming task that requires lots of meetings, a great deal of research and compilation of data.

Although we don't report them, there have been several high profile merchant terminations in recent weeks. One file locker was actually without any payment processing for about nine days as they scrambled to replace their last remaining merchant account.

There are very few file lockers accepting Paypal now. The most obvious of these is Mega and we along with other industry groups have expressed our displeasure at this arrangement. There is work going on in the background by third parties which will affect the future and viability of Mega going forward. Some of these things take a great deal of work to bring to a resolution and Mega is no exception.

thx AK
those were things i've asked about.
i'm going to support what you're doing even further. just keep doing your stuff and keep us informed.
hope to talk voice with you the other day (sent you an email)

The following sites have had one or more forms of payment processing shut down, most of these were donation buttons. Like all terminated accounts, we will keep monitoring to ensure there is no resumption of processing.

3dmodelsdownload.net
allcomicbooks.us
amadorahd.com
androidum.blogspot.com
anidragon.net
animexz.com
astroddl.net
avorg.net
bananaspliff.blogspot.com
busty-m.com
byhero.biz
camalliforever.com
camsharing-univers.com
capaspt.blogspot.com
colecionadores-go.blogspot.com
cr7starwrestling.com
cribreak.com
d-snf.net
daisystrikesdk.blogspot.com
darkhour24.blogspot.com
dd-peliculas.com
ddlinkz.com
deejaymix.ro
descargar-full-apk-android.blogspot.com.ar
detodoprogramacion.com
dimitrydmt.blogspot.com
dl4training.com
dstreetz.net
emucr.com
envivocr7star.com
esdvx.com
extremepirate.com
feetschan.org
femdomforum.co.uk
filmelita.com
gamesfull.us
giocosenzatrucco.blogspot.com
heaveniphone.com
heavenplanet.com
hirntot.org
hot-vagina.com
hqsite.org
ibericawarez.com
interfazdigital.com
juegosparawindows.com
kosty555.info
laresdj.com
larula.com
latino-dvdrip.com
makslee.com
manhuabudang.com
maspsp.eu
mcdrifter.com.ar
megauploadagora.com.br
metalchesh.com
mosh.ph
mvhappy.com
neofighters.info
nonsoloserietv.org
nosoloanime.ch
onlyiplus.net
palasaca.es
pixelmansion.com
punkoiska.com
rapidareena.com
realmodscene.com
rincondelmangaycomic.blogspot.com
rosso-film.blogspot.com
rossoscarlattofilm.blogspot.com
rus-pearljam.blogspot.com
seriesenvena.com
snk-neofighters.com
snk-neofighters.info
todopelys.es
tusbandassonoras.com
tuserie.com
ultimatefull.com
ultraforos.com
ultraforos.net
universalcovers.it
vipersat.pl
vstanced.com
wadpod-evolution.com
wrathem.com
xstrike.pro
z750.org

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Below is a list of domains that we have asked Plugrush to look in to. All of these domains link to or have linked to file lockers. This list was prepared mid January and supplied to Plugrush on 31st January and again on 7th January.

ua-teens.com
rezax123.com
sexandfetishforum.com
pornshareproject.org
midnightdesires.org
platinumpornvideos.com
intporn-o.com
forumophilia.info
porn-ws.info
18scenes.com
forumadulto.com
asianjavporn.com
eforum.xxx
humperville.com
exbii.info
pro-xy.com
pornbbb.info
oriforums.com
pornmovieszone.com
pornomirror.com
movdra.com
deluxeorgasm.com
adult-planet.info
pussyscanner.net
yourpornland.com
maxxapornbb.info
fsichat.com
naked-sluts.us
xxxgugu.com
downloadfreeporn.org
usex.in
hqamateurs.me
porn-blog.me
kinkyamateur.net
gasica77pornpp.com
adultarchive.org
gayasianporn.biz
sonic123.info
3xporn.net
edenxxx.com
xxxfile.net
eden3x.com
sexboards.net
guest123.info
forumxxxworld.com
dlpornmovies.com
realityspice.com
porno-ddl.org
dafap.com
adultindir.org
yumatu.net
topnude.net
mysecretpornblog.com
japanidolmodel.info
orgazmixxx.com
xxxfile.org
pornomount.net
littleteen.org
pornmade.com
adultblog.org
pornxxxlovers.com
pornopir.net
bigtitfiles.info
cuckolddownload.com
3at3ot.com
adultscanner.com
cumonprintedpics.com
btnew.com
jav-index.com
estrenoshentai.com
porn4allfreaks.net
x-glamour.ws
thedesiporn.com
beautifulbustywomen.net
mydesipanu.net
pornbay.me
olala-porn.com
3xhen.com
hdteen.net
banat4x.com
xhime.com
fullpornsets.com
suvecina.com.es
pornforce.net
leons-corner.com
eros69.es
golazo100.com
mongoporn.com
noviceamateurs.com
portaldaputaria.org
lomejordetodalaweb.com
xbbwx.com
traffic-hits.com
xxxadults69.com
idolsdaily.com
bigsporn.com
hard-porn.us
mundopajero.com
jav-fan.org
arabsexweb.com
lawalocos.com
v-porno.ru
cnnwe.com
artofx.org
2arabsex.com
fakecelebnudes.me
thepornlist.net
chicosvideo.com
javboom.org
egoporn.com
loofiles.com
sexwbass.com
za3ror.com
mozaxx.com
pornblog.cc
avbasic.com
ddhentaiesp.com
nudess.net
javfans.info
sexybebot.com
javboom.info
webpornoonline.com
ultrafappers.com
zb-ks.com
sogatinhas.net
freeporhd.com
hottestasianwomen.info
sexocaiunanet.com
vadiasamadoras.com
6ixy.com
hottestjapanesepornstar.info
madgfx.org
pornoizle-sikis.com
fapbb.org
dirtytemptationz.com
greek-sex.com
xvideosdl.net
diariodapunheta.net
aflam18.com
hotjav4you.com
luckyporn.biz
japanadultidol.info
gojav.net
javboom.net
javpornbase.info
pornbros.net
pornoamadorgay.com
cogiaothao.info
xvideos-hd.net
naughtynudeamateur.com
voyen.net
clubsjremix.net
naughtypeeing.com
footfetishtube.pl
sekai-hentai.blogspot.com
clubsjremix.com
idolsee.com
girlsyoudreamof.com
porn-on.org
chicashotmx.blogspot.com
releasenow.net
teennice.com
fuckze.com
sexmenu.org
hornyasiangirls.net
sexmenu.info
sexmenu.net
sexmenu.us
seejavidol.blogspot.com
alltollz.org
imagegur.com
likeporn.info
hotjpav.com
urdufundaforum.net
bitshare.info
chicoscam.com
javfan.org
mastersexxxuploader.blogspot.com
myhentaidream.blogspot.com
arabsexonline.info
ipecomics.net
timeshoosh.com
jav-city.com
javfox.com
the-chan.com
urdufundaforum.tk
indixxxcomic.com
ps4forfree.com
showvl.com
toporn.info
crossdressgirls.com
girlleak.com
miramesexy.com
nadaporn.com
revistasplayboypdf.com
sa7press.com
videos-min.com
wwehotdivas.org
xxxvideosonline.info
abgmontoktoge.blogspot.com
dapornterest.com
hotavxxx.info
javboom.com
notonlyporn.net
urdufunda.us
urdufundaforum.com
urdufundasexstories.com
videosdesexobr.org
badman.asia
download-bokep.us
fakethebitch.com
goringa.net
interreligiousx.com
javpost.com
kumpulan-foto-bugil.us
makiverem.hu
nudeceleb365.com
thenudearts.com
toxxxicas.net
xidols.com
diasimes.net
escortbayanlar5.com
ezyporn.com
javfan.com
muzica123.org
porn-hunterz.net
satguystuff.blogspot.com
sensualdesires.net
sexfreeblog.com
sexoanalnovinhas.com
thenakedtruth.cc
video-bokep.us
videojablay.com
videoxvip.com

has plugrush turned them off?
what about other brokers?

what about those? they seem to have cc option to pay
http://www.uploadable.ch/extend.php
http://www.datafile.com/d/TVRZME1UST...sd169.mp4.html

Best thing to do if you want to share sites like this is to just post the domain and not a whole link.

We know about both these sites, but thanks anyway.

AdultKing cannot single handedly save the industry but for the people who seriously think he hasn't made a difference consider all the assets Kim DotCom had and how he made his money. He made it selling premium memberships to people who wanted to download faster and more than the limits. Just what do you think most of those people wanted to download so much of? Porn, of course! Money was still being spent on porn but much of it was going to these filelockers instead of your pockets.

It's making a difference. Nuke ALL the illegal filelockers and maybe you get rid of 40% of the piracy. AK hasn't been able to do that but I would bet he got rid of at least 10% of it. 60%-70% of the other industry piracy is the tubes. He's not touching that right now but you have to give him credit for what he has done. It's more than any of us have done, myself included.

Piracy Poster Child and AK detractor TrueTraffic/ScrollDog/To0/Richard J Humphrey remanded back into custody for V.O.P. by judge.

Source

I posted this in another thread as well.

Any link posted on this site has a positive impact on the linked sites traffic and SERP, not a good idea to post a link back to a piracy related site here.

A thread or forum section with limited access and no indexing should be set up to exchange that information (as done on AntiPiracyForums.com for most of the site) or the information should be submitted by email or pm.

It's best not to comment on a lot of things, this way the pirates and their army of cowardly fake nick sympathisers will continue to completely underestimate our capabilities.

That said, a high profile file locker is now without any kind of payment processing (so inconvenient to be canned by your acquirer on a Friday afternoon). I guess the site is currently scrambling to replace their last remaining merchant accounts.

We're continuing to work through piracy source sites, killing off donation button accounts on blogs, forums and other sites. A fourth list of terminations will be posted Tuesday.

It is funny how those who profit from piracy hate to have their personal information out in the open.


http://74.125.162.102/transparencyre.../Rudy-Corella/

http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=1366273

Copyright claim:

This site displays a picture of myself, to which I have given no permission written or otherwise stated permission to this website owner, or any employees of this website. It also displays information of my address, home phone number, and other private information, such as social media pages etc. I have contacted the website owner, and have been ignored.


Original work URL(s):

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

Allegedly infringing URLs:

http://www.mylife.com/rudy_corella

Continuing our purge of piracy source sites (sites which link to file lockers) the following sites have lost their payment processing (mostly Paypal donation buttons) along with Payza, Moneybookers and a couple of merchant accounts.

Some of these sites re-instated new accounts after previously being dealt with. Our average turnaround time to deal with repeat offenders is 2 days.

Here is the list.


vipersat.pl
d-snf.net
dd-peliculas.com
ultraforos.com
filmelita.com
premium24h.com
vipersat.pl
arabtruck.info
camalliforever.com
synapsemusic.net
wrathem.com
extremepirate.com
dl4training.com
rus-pearljam.blogspot.com
allcomicbooks.us
mexanime.info
hqsite.org
getmetal.org
emucr.com
pchatasi.com
ultimatefull.com
elosopanda.com
akiba-team.com
vipersat.pl
rockbillyboogie.blogspot.com
esdvx.com
todopelys.es
anime-sensei.net
ovagames.com
vipersat.pl
vipersat.pl
tudodeps3.com
ddlinkz.com
frenzyandroid.com
metalchesh.com
heaveniphone.com
heaveniphone.com
psd4us.com
amadorahd.com
deejaymix.ro
androidum.blogspot.com
anidragon.net
acheibr.blogspot.com
anakonda.com.pl
animexz.com
hot-vagina.com
laresdj.com
lalokeraece.blogspot.com
capaspt.blogspot.com
latino-dvdrip.com
gamesfull.us
electroanimejp.net
darkhour24.blogspot.com
djayjongzki.blogspot.com
download70.blogspot.com
daisystrikesdk.blogspot.com
colecionadores-go.blogspot.com
download-game-consol.blogspot.com
data-comun.blogspot.com
cr7starwrestling.com
feetschan.org
asiancollect.blogspot.com
elajedrez.org
entrefantasmasybuffyverso.blogspot.com
dimitrydmt.blogspot.com
cribreak.com
cahtkjstemakudus.blogspot.com
e-rastrillo.blogspot.com
miftahshidiq.blogspot.com
megauploadagora.com.br
rincondelmangaycomic.blogspot.com
mayuyeros.me
onlyiplus.net
mcdrifter.com.ar
universalcovers.it
maspsp.eu
realmodscene.com
nds-extra.blogspot.com
promotionaluseonly2.blogspot.com
routeforthemonk.blog.com
proyecto-jos19.blogspot.com
wadpod-evolution.com
mymusiic.com
thedownloadfilm.blogspot.com
lusodiscos.net
makslee.com
tusbandassonoras.com
pclives.info
tuslibrosenlinea.blogspot.com
vidainformatica.com
neofighters.info
voyeurisfun.com
psyglobe.net
porngaytecas.blogspot.com
seriesenvena.com
pabiskylive.blogspot.com
nosoloanime.ch
insclub.biz
sekai-hentai.blogspot.com
mosh.ph
cloverdark.com
ganstarap.net
rafaelituz.com
shareunlimited.net
rossoscarlattofilm.blogspot.com
mega-downloads.eu
intermilancity.blogspot.com
elultimotrueno.com
millenium-down.blogspot.com
femdomforum.co.uk
solopelisdeestreno.blogspot.com
tuserie.com
lupindl.com
lennyteka.blogspot.com
gamerzheat.com
ibericawarez.com
gmrusaku.blogspot.com
onlypix.com
conestosiva.blogspot.com
serie-tvitalia.com
interfazdigital.com
knela-records.blogspot.com
escbaku2012.blogspot.com
busty-m.com
eurovisionartists.blogspot.com
fansofapk.com
vejatudobaixeaqui.com
piojosas.com
livesets-online.com
itcpedia.com
best-moviez.ws
veverel.ru
avorg.net
oneclickeverything.com
oskhmer.com
regmo.blogspot.com
palasaca.es
censuradoveg.blogspot.com
filetrack.blogspot.com
noxonsoftwares.blogspot.com
juegosparawindows.com
downloadw.blogspot.com
filevirtual.blogspot.com
3dmodelsdownload.net
film-subtitle-indonesia.blogspot.com
giocosenzatrucco.blogspot.com
smwcentral.net
mynavi-expert.pl
ancientchinese.net
obifull.blogspot.com
andersonborges200.blogspot.com
inmassmind.blogspot.com
kikuslirus.blogspot.com
xboxforum.pl
sakuraanimes.com.br
pyload.org
emulasyonturkiye.org
tusportables.com.ar
hirntot.org
esferabit.com
descargar-full-apk-android.blogspot.com.ar
mugenguild.com
dosyaindirelim.com
fangtangji.com
bbwchatzone.com
apolis.it
bizzentte.com
biteyourapple.net
teenwolfitalia.com
blacklionmusic.com
descargalosimple.com
nido.org
ahmety.com
osiol.com.pl
morai-subs.info
mynavi-expert.pl
cs-slupsk.pl
afinewshq.com
caborgedownload.blogspot.com
truequevirtuales.blogspot.com
superhitsmp3.blogspot.com
ahmety.com
dublaseries.tv
thehouseofportable.blogspot.com
gamezoneguatemala.com
kaishii-fansub.com
ebookforchildren-baby.blogspot.com
z750.org
biteyourapple.net
nembiakbujat.blogspot.com
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Looks like Payza is making their official position on Donation Buttons known on WJunction.

This won't be the last time Rudy Corella and UltraMegaBit are taken to task over the criminal conspiracy that is UltraMegaBit and the misleading and deceptive conduct also undertaken.

Choopa are knee deep in this too.

http://stopfilelockers.com/ultramega...ive-practices/

nice.
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Now that there has been one successful move against UltraMegaBit, others will follow.

Choopa really need to take note of this because they are skating on very thin ice right now and unless they wind back their involvement with Rudy Corella it's going to get very unpleasant for a few people.

It took over one year for the Washington State action to conclude, these things move slowly. Over the next year there will be several more examples to follow.