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czarina 10-14-2013 02:15 PM

Both sites are down for me

AdultKing 10-14-2013 02:39 PM

FileFactory.com has just announced file search, where you can search all files located on FileFactory's servers.

http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...torysearch.jpg

If you are a rights holder and your content is on File Factory then please contact us by emailing [email protected]

This is very important, as we have set up a special project to deal with File Factory with full details to be announced in coming weeks.

WDF 10-14-2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19834330)
We've been under sustained DDoS attacks since I announced that we would keep going.

It's just part of the fun.

There are a number of hosting solutions for attack issues.

I can forward you some info if you would like, some are surprisingly economical.


Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19834360)
This is very important, as we have set up a special project to deal with File Factory with full details to be announced in coming weeks.


I love special projects also.

AdultKing 10-14-2013 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDF (Post 19834453)
There are a number of hosting solutions for attack issues.

I can forward you some info if you would like, some are surprisingly economical.

We've got one. It works well. However we can still see the attacks even though they're usually ineffective.

Kolargol 10-14-2013 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19834360)
FileFactory.com has just announced file search, where you can search all files located on FileFactory's servers.

http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...torysearch.jpg

If you are a rights holder and your content is on File Factory then please contact us by emailing [email protected]

This is very important, as we have set up a special project to deal with File Factory with full details to be announced in coming weeks.

All hosted by Leaseweb.

Axeman 10-14-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19834360)
If you are a rights holder and your content is on File Factory then please contact us by emailing [email protected]

This is very important, as we have set up a special project to deal with File Factory with full details to be announced in coming weeks.

Sent you a list of our content. Let us know when we can send the official DMCA to them.

Thx!

AdultKing 10-15-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 19834782)
Sent you a list of our content. Let us know when we can send the official DMCA to them.

We are particularly interested in reports of content not being taken down.

If anyone has examples of DMCA notices sent to File Factory that are not actioned within 24 hours then please let us know.

AdultKing 10-16-2013 03:41 AM

Random thought of the day: RapidGator.

bean-aid 10-16-2013 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19836321)
Random thought of the day: RapidGator.

Is a pay option available yet?

Rapidgator is a favorite filelocker for many here on gfy who have *adapted*

AdultKing 10-16-2013 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19836395)
Is a pay option available yet?

Shortly.

ImageTwist

I'd like rights holders to send copies of all their DMCA's and non complied with DMCA's for ImageTwist.

I want to drown Paxum in evidence they're a problem that needs dealing with.

DamianJ 10-16-2013 12:23 PM

Here's a thought. Why not get a client you are working with, write a white paper showing how their sales increased as a direct result of your antics, then everyone will give you money.

I've yet to see any direct evidence of any impact you are making to sales.

I imagine if you published some proof, you'd be inundated with donations.

Personally I think the pay for pirates are such a small percentage of piracy you're making no impact whatsoever, but I'd (genuinely) love to be proved wrong. But 10TB a day uploaded to usenet for people to get for free, uploaded for free makes me think this is all for nothing.

JimmyStephans 10-16-2013 12:30 PM

DamianJ - Good post.

In my case I am confident that that fighting piracy does keep sales up. But also in my case I am not in a position to state that "X" amount of people joined due to this filelocker going down or that filelocker going down. The main reason is that at the same time I send donations to this project I am also doing other things.

I have a guy in my office 40 hours a week to help with piracy issues.

I do hours a week of work myself on the same issues.

I register my copyrights, file suits, and later use the judgements to discourage others from posting my materials.

I even travel cross-country to stop piracy if thats what it takes (see http://wp-board.com/ blog).

15 months ago when Oron went down I did see a large increase in sales. Stopping a file locker in that case (not by AK) was good for me looking at monthly averages - just like the WP-Board deal was in 2009.

So, I can't post a firm number here swearing that much more was sold in memberships because of the Stop File Lockers program but I know its one of the things that helps.

Jimmy

AdultKing 10-16-2013 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19836953)
But 10TB a day uploaded to usenet for people to get for free, uploaded for free makes me think this is all for nothing.

In the next couple of months, watch USENET binaries all but disappear as Visa, Mastercard and Paypal abandon that space.

I have been working for many months on bringing an end to the ongoing problem of USENET being transformed from a useful information exchange to the hotbed of piracy and child exploitation that exists on it now.

Very soon USENET providers will need to remove/drop all piracy, child exploitation or other groups containing illegal content such as bestiality or they will find that they are left with no methods by which to accept payment.

As for the success of this project, the ongoing support of many in this industry counters your continual, repetitive and droning whining about white papers and so on.

AdultKing 10-16-2013 12:32 PM

Just a reminder as this is now lost on the previous page:

ImageTwist

I'd like rights holders to send copies of all their DMCA's and non complied with DMCA's for ImageTwist.

I want to drown Paxum in evidence they're a problem that needs dealing with.

LouiseLloyd 10-16-2013 12:40 PM

To me filelockers are old school, for the hardcore who have used them for years and will die of natural causes anyway thanks to the ease of access of tubes, at least that's my thinking, I can't understand why anyone would want to go to the extra steps and hassle of using filelockers as opposed to just hitting play on a tube.

That said, I would love to see that day that all piracy is extinct.

The day Joe Bloggs wakes up with the morning horn, goes to his favourite tube site as he does every day, and it's no longer there, he tries a few more well known tubes and the same result, he's like "what the fuck!", after years of free porn it's become habit, he's hooked and left with no option but to sign up to the paysite of his favourite model(s).

Just imagine that day! :pimp


Leaving the tubes any longer is a big mistake, they have grown from piracy and the only reason they would exist with no piracy is that they have stolen all your traffic and blackmail you to have a share of it by offering partner accounts.


AK do you have plans or think you would include tubes and other methods of distribution in your campaign(s)?

JimmyStephans 10-16-2013 12:41 PM

My confidence in the work of AK and team shows in my donations.

$2000 by Paypal in 2012

$3000 by Paxum so far in 2013

AdultKing 10-16-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyStephans (Post 19836975)
My confidence in the work of AK and team shows in my donations.

$2000 by Paypal in 2012

$3000 by Paxum so far in 2013

This is exactly the kind of support that keeps us going, keeps paying the legal fees, keeps the cloud services running and supports the development of fresh strategies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 19836973)
To me filelockers are old school, for the hardcore who have used them for years and will die of natural causes anyway thanks to the ease of access of tubes, at least that's my thinking, I can't understand why anyone would want to go to the extra steps and hassle of using filelockers as opposed to just hitting play on a tube.

AK do you have plans or think you would include tubes and other methods of distribution in your campaign(s)?

There is a common misconception held by some people in this industry that file lockers aren't a huge threat. The fact is they are. The largest of them are making millions of dollars a year by charging people to access stolen content in massive amounts. They pay uploaders a portion of that money but the bulk of a file lockers finances is pure profit.

Recently a large file locker offered a bucket load of money to me to help them look cleaner and help them regain their Paypal account. When that offer was rejected a personal threat was made.

In the Oron case an unbelievable amount of money was frozen and it's likely there was much more hidden away elsewhere.

There are tens of thousands of sites linking to infringing files on file lockers and there are some big sites with massive amounts of traffic offering file locker search engines that allow people to find complete site-rips in seconds and then download an entire site worth of content for a few dollars, thus making it unnecessary to join the site to see the same content.

There is no doubt that free porn via tubes is a challenge to the traditional affiliate model and to paysites in general. However the fact is that compared to the file lockers, torrents and USENET there if relatively little piracy on the larger tubes (with a few exceptions).

It's important to separate the model of free porn (as on tubes) and stolen content (on file lockers). Sure, you'll always find some stolen content on tubes, but not on the massive scale found on file lockers and torrent sites.

As for an expanded role for this project, there are many different things I'd like to be doing. However we do not have the resources to solve all of the adult industry's problems at once.

The Stop File Lockers project has a way to go yet, I am already pushing hard over USENET. As for torrent sites, I have a plan to start attacking them, however the Stop File Lockers project needs to stem the bleeding to file lockers first.

JimmyStephans 10-16-2013 01:30 PM

Simple thinking answers the questions about filelockers hurting the business.

1- They are hugely profitable while selling your content and to sell that content they are accepting the very same credits cards we all wish would be used on our own sites. Filelocker users are customers - they have cards and money (but buy from filelockers to get tons of content cheap).

2- If filelockers didn't make good money from their business model (99% piracy) why are they there and why do they keep fighting back when they lose a payment system?

If it was chump change they make - wouldn't they just go do something else once they lost a method to collect chump change?

LouiseLloyd 10-16-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19836997)
There is a common misconception held by some people in this industry that file lockers aren't a huge threat. The fact is they are. The largest of them are making millions of dollars a year by charging people to access stolen content in massive amounts. They pay uploaders a portion of that money but the bulk of a file lockers finances is pure profit.

Recently a large file locker offered a bucket load of money to me to help them look cleaner and help them regain their Paypal account. When that offer was rejected a personal threat was made.

In the Oron case an unbelievable amount of money was frozen and it's likely there was much more hidden away elsewhere.

There are tens of thousands of sites linking to infringing files on file lockers and there are some big sites with massive amounts of traffic offering file locker search engines that allow people to find complete site-rips in seconds and then download an entire site worth of content for a few dollars, thus making it unnecessary to join the site to see the same content.

There is no doubt that free porn via tubes is a challenge to the traditional affiliate model and to paysites in general. However the fact is that compared to the file lockers, torrents and USENET there if relatively little piracy on the larger tubes (with a few exceptions).

It's important to separate the model of free porn (as on tubes) and stolen content (on file lockers). Sure, you'll always find some stolen content on tubes, but not on the massive scale found on file lockers and torrent sites.

As for an expanded role for this project, there are many different things I'd like to be doing. However we do not have the resources to solve all of the adult industry's problems at once.

The Stop File Lockers project has a way to go yet, I am already pushing hard over USENET. As for torrent sites, I have a plan to start attacking them, however the Stop File Lockers project needs to stem the bleeding to file lockers first.

Thank you for taking the time to answer AK, no doubt you're doing a great job! :pimp:thumbsup

WDF 10-16-2013 04:55 PM

Anyone that believes there is not a shitload of money in the rogue file locker business is either very poorly informed or just out right clueless.

These people make mad money, scam the users, close and return with a new $10 domain to do it again. Some of them do not even spend money on the XFS Pro platform they use to operate. Ad Networks love them lots of traffic and imprints, some of them have figured out how to keep AdSense on their sites for extended periods and draw payments from Google.

How many of you would like $20 or $30K a month from ads on your sites?
Can you imagine 1 complaint I heard from 1 of these guys was he took in $30K from AdSense but had to pay over half of it to his users!

You only need to spend some time reading their posts to realize they pay people a few bucks an hour to build traffic and back links. They get tons of traffic that they can heavily monetize. There are several income streams from a file host site. You need to study and grasp the way the cash flows with these people. When you do you begin to understand that the cash flow is the most vulnerable place to attack.

Take away the money and most of the people uploading stolen content will disappear.

Markul 10-17-2013 03:13 AM

Bump for the cause, this should be sticky 4 life or something.

WDF 10-18-2013 09:36 AM

I love these Upload Monkeys/Cashwhores:

http://i.imgur.com/wD26e0d.png


Nothing says dumb-ass quite like a person trying to sue another over an illegal act both participated in. I would love to meet this alleged lawyer mentioned in the post. I bet he chases ambulances, not to file lawsuits but to push them when they get stuck in the mud and muck.

It should be noted the person posting the above threats also owns an image host called imagecorn.com. No honor among thieves!

ShackledMaidens 10-18-2013 10:25 AM

What a retarded wanker

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDF (Post 19839504)
I love these Upload Monkeys/Cashwhores:



Nothing says dumb-ass quite like a person trying to sue another over an illegal act both participated in. I would love to meet this alleged lawyer mentioned in the post. I bet he chases ambulances, not to file lawsuits but to push them when they get stuck in the mud and muck.

It should be noted the person posting the above threats also owns an image host called imagecorn.com. No honor among thieves!


MrDeiz 10-18-2013 10:46 AM

tru dat :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDF (Post 19837264)
Anyone that believes there is not a shitload of money in the rogue file locker business is either very poorly informed or just out right clueless.

These people make mad money, scam the users, close and return with a new $10 domain to do it again. Some of them do not even spend money on the XFS Pro platform they use to operate. Ad Networks love them lots of traffic and imprints, some of them have figured out how to keep AdSense on their sites for extended periods and draw payments from Google.

How many of you would like $20 or $30K a month from ads on your sites?
Can you imagine 1 complaint I heard from 1 of these guys was he took in $30K from AdSense but had to pay over half of it to his users!

You only need to spend some time reading their posts to realize they pay people a few bucks an hour to build traffic and back links. They get tons of traffic that they can heavily monetize. There are several income streams from a file host site. You need to study and grasp the way the cash flows with these people. When you do you begin to understand that the cash flow is the most vulnerable place to attack.

Take away the money and most of the people uploading stolen content will disappear.


WDF 10-18-2013 11:18 AM

DaringHost out of West Haven, CT seems to be hosting a large number of pirate sites from there cloud infrastructure which is provided by LeaseWeb.

I would think as an American Citizen and Resident Nick wold be more cautious, all those posts on WJunction by him admitting to allow copyright infringement links and unlicensed software platforms can be very damaging to those choosing to pursue him in court. Is aiding/allowing Pirates in the use of unlicensed software and the distribution of infringing content infringement itself?

AdultKing 10-18-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDF (Post 19839504)
I love these Upload Monkeys/Cashwhores:

http://i.imgur.com/wD26e0d.png


Nothing says dumb-ass quite like a person trying to sue another over an illegal act both participated in. I would love to meet this alleged lawyer mentioned in the post. I bet he chases ambulances, not to file lawsuits but to push them when they get stuck in the mud and muck.

It should be noted the person posting the above threats also owns an image host called imagecorn.com. No honor among thieves!

These guys just live in a world of their own until we start blowing down their house.

They become so engaged in piracy as a business that all other values go out the window.

I've lost count of the number of abusive emails threatening to sue the SFL project or Copy Control or myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDF (Post 19839681)
DaringHost out of West Haven, CT seems to be hosting a large number of pirate sites from there cloud infrastructure which is provided by LeaseWeb

I've been developing a network map of all these Leaseweb based hosts. As my work on Leaseweb continues I intend to flood certain agencies with so much paper based evidence that things should come tumbling down for quite a number of people.

Slowly, slowly catchee monkey

Axeman 10-18-2013 12:05 PM

Great work AK! Any news on the setup of the recurring option yet?

WDF 10-18-2013 12:09 PM

A person featured Twice on CashWhore.net for his involvement in piracy and other crimes and a convicted sex offender has started a "News" site to denounce Anti-Piracy efforts like AKs and the CashWhore/NukePiracy group.

He promotes his new piracy site and 1 of a close friend and associate as well.


More Pirate Data available soon.

AdultKing 10-18-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 19839749)
Great work AK! Any news on the setup of the recurring option yet?

It should be coming very soon.

Since restarting this effort my day has been up at 4.30am, straight into the office, finish the day at between 8pm and 9pm, home dinner then sleep and repeat.

It's Saturday morning and I'm heading in now to work on the fundraising stuff amongst other things. So I expect to have something available over the weekend.

madeofmoney 10-18-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyStephans (Post 19837042)
Simple thinking answers the questions about filelockers hurting the business.

1- They are hugely profitable while selling your content and to sell that content they are accepting the very same credits cards we all wish would be used on our own sites. Filelocker users are customers - they have cards and money (but buy from filelockers to get tons of content cheap).

2- If filelockers didn't make good money from their business model (99% piracy) why are they there and why do they keep fighting back when they lose a payment system?

If it was chump change they make - wouldn't they just go do something else once they lost a method to collect chump change?

You should sue these guys too Jimmy. If they are lying and making false statements about you, you could win big time :2 cents:

http://opexposure.blogspot.com/2013/...ans-story.html

WDF 10-18-2013 12:45 PM

Many long hours under sometimes Thankless conditions, I know the drill.

Your dedication and drive deserves admiration AK.

WDF 10-18-2013 04:31 PM

http://www.wjunction.com/142-google/...ml#post1904140

Here it is just posted, a file host that did not pay his affiliates, got banned on WJ, returns (Wonder how much he had to pay to get back on the site) to do it again from his new file host MaskFile.com.

He must have the Admins blessing because his profile was viewed by a site supermod.

He states openly he made $600 to $1200 a day last year from just AdSense.

That is $18K to $36K a month, just from AdSense ads.

No Money To Be Made There Huh????!!!!!

JimmyStephans 10-18-2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDF (Post 19839681)
DaringHost out of West Haven, CT seems to be hosting a large number of pirate sites from there cloud infrastructure which is provided by LeaseWeb.

I would think as an American Citizen and Resident Nick wold be more cautious, all those posts on WJunction by him admitting to allow copyright infringement links and unlicensed software platforms can be very damaging to those choosing to pursue him in court. Is aiding/allowing Pirates in the use of unlicensed software and the distribution of infringing content infringement itself?

Yes, knowingly contributing in a profit making manner in the infringement conducted by others is something a party can be held liable for.

http://torrentfreak.com/isohunt-shut...e-mpaa-131017/

AdultKing 10-18-2013 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDF (Post 19840050)
That is $18K to $36K a month, just from AdSense ads.

No Money To Be Made There Huh????!!!!!

A recent Google Adsense account we terminated (file locker) had $12088.39 due to be paid for the month at the time of closure. Remarkably we were told that the account had been less active than usual at the time we reported it.

There are a multitude of way file lockers monetize, some not as obvious as others.

It's also very easy to see that what we are doing hurts them a lot, the vehemence expressed in emails, phone calls, faxes and comments on the Stop File Lockers blog just re-inforces the fact that we are interrupting huge cash flows and people are pissed about it.

Three.Thousand 10-18-2013 07:03 PM

Just a reminder,
its not just a fight to get people who truly want your content, to pay you for it.
Its also a fight to make sure no one else makes money off your hard work without your consent.

If removing file lockers doesn't improve paysite sales, surely there is no argument to let them keep stealing and make money when you dont....

WDF 10-18-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyStephans (Post 19840090)
Yes, knowingly contributing in a profit making manner in the infringement conducted by others is something a party can be held liable for.

http://torrentfreak.com/isohunt-shut...e-mpaa-131017/

Exactly what I was referring to. That is a judgement that will never be fully paid, there may also be other terms not posted in the settlement agreement.

marlboroack 10-18-2013 09:48 PM

You're doing all the work for me buddy

JimmyStephans 10-19-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three.Thousand (Post 19840189)
Just a reminder,
its not just a fight to get people who truly want your content, to pay you for it.
Its also a fight to make sure no one else makes money off your hard work without your consent.

If removing file lockers doesn't improve paysite sales, surely there is no argument to let them keep stealing and make money when you dont....

A very damn good point.

AdultKing 10-19-2013 08:12 PM

anafile.com, a re-incarnation of several other failed file hosts, now has no payment methods.

AdultKing 10-19-2013 09:15 PM

ShareSix.com have now been through several payment options, they've just lost their last one and it seems they can't get a merchant facility. I predict this site will just die now.

http://sharesix.com/?op=news


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