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clickity click · 05-01-2015, 02:34 PM

I class Namibia which is above South Africa and borders Angola, Zimbabwe and Botswana as a kind of second home.
I have been multiple times and love the place.

I usually travel to the north (Ondangwa, Oshikati region) and above. Here you don't get running water or electricity for the most part but for many it's a chosen way of life.

Most big shops have security with a gun on the door and you have to leave bags at the door..

Street kids are a nuisance often...

Aside from this though the people are fantastic and friendly and the country is truly amazing.

aka123 · 05-01-2015, 02:40 PM

By the way. We have "natives vs immigrants" issue. But it is not quite hot issue, as it is not that easy to tell who is the native and who is the immigrant. No demands about getting shipped back yet.

Jman · 05-01-2015, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Where did they get those weapons Boko Haram or cyberseo?

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Can`t say about the weapons but I`m pretty sure they got their ponchos from GLAD

klinton · 05-01-2015, 05:08 PM

it looks like, but ask shimmy

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

So those are screen caps from a movie?

klinton · 05-01-2015, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

So you sit at home in Finland and critique the US all day? Is this a new sport or you just bored?

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klinton · 05-01-2015, 05:13 PM

sure man..for sure...but did you asked yourself why in XVII, XVIII or XIX century, when white man has long distance ships, guns and pistols, black Africans were living like white men were in stone age ?
was it also a fault of white men ?

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and let me just take this opportunity to say that the whiteys had nothing to do with the current situation africa is in today...the centuries of exploitation and slavery and kidnapping of africans to pick cotton in the USA are all completely irrelevant

before 1964 in the USA (just 50 years ago) a black person had to sit in the back of the bus, could not go to whitey school, could not go in to white shops ect ect...but in the eyes of the whitey 50 years is enough for kidnapped slaves and 2nd grade citizens to magically adapt and become more civilized than the whiteys were 50 years ago towards the blacks

oh the whitey hand wash

no responsibility ever ever ever sticks to the hands of white americans...they can steal land, commit treason to their former countries by declaring "independence", pretend that they did not use the resources of their old countries to steal the land from the natives in the first place, pretend that they had no role in killing off the natives and basically putting them in concentration camps, then kidnap africans to work as slaves, then drop more bombs than hitler since ww2

remember folks: the white american is never responsible for anything

just apply whitey hand wash!

Grapesoda · 05-01-2015, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

Horseshit.

I was born and raised in the USA, as were my parents, and their parents. This is our native land; it is NOT foreign land. We are not immigrants. I'd be willing to bet that the same applies to Grapesoda, L-Pink and others on here.

I should not be held accountable for things my ancestors did long before I was born.

many coming to US now are not immigrating and haven't for years, they are colonizing

pimpmaster9000 · 05-02-2015, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

sure man..for sure...but did you asked yourself why in XVII, XVIII or XIX century, when white man has long distance ships, guns and pistols, black Africans were living like white men were in stone age ?
was it also a fault of white men ?

the white man is never ever responsible

what did the white man do with his long distance ships, guns and pistols? ENSLAVE the black man

it is never ever the white mans fault, nor the white mans systems fault...it can not be so because it is scientifically proven fact that americans can do no wrong

"land of the free"

black people and their military escort to school

obviously the slavery and military escorts were not the white mans fault

somebody will post about some black slave traders and this is all mericans will need to feel not responsible for anything at all

Grapesoda · 05-02-2015, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

the white man is never ever responsible

what did the white man do with his long distance ships, guns and pistols? ENSLAVE the black man

it is never ever the white mans fault, nor the white mans systems fault...it can not be so because it is scientifically proven fact that americans can do no wrong

obviously the slavery and military escorts were not the white mans fault

somebody will post about some black slave traders and this is all mericans will need to feel not responsible for anything at all

try reading history with an OPEN mind.... btw if it's weren't for white men you wouldn't be reading this forum... btw you may accept as much blame for slavery, 300 years ago as you wish.... I accept none

klinton · 05-02-2015, 07:00 AM

I dont know if I'm not writing in English or you dont understand English, but you didnt answer my question.
which was:
but did you asked yourself WHY in XVII, XVIII or XIX century, when white man has long distance ships, guns and pistols, black Africans were living like white men were in stone age ?
was it also a fault of white men ?

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

the white man is never ever responsible

what did the white man do with his long distance ships, guns and pistols? ENSLAVE the black man

it is never ever the white mans fault, nor the white mans systems fault...it can not be so because it is scientifically proven fact that americans can do no wrong

"land of the free"

black people and their military escort to school

obviously the slavery and military escorts were not the white mans fault

somebody will post about some black slave traders and this is all mericans will need to feel not responsible for anything at all

rogueteens · 05-02-2015, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

what did the white man do with his long distance ships, guns and pistols? ENSLAVE the black man

No they did not. If you don't know what a word means then it's probably not an idea to use it.

aka123 · 05-02-2015, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

but did you asked yourself WHY in XVII, XVIII or XIX century, when white man has long distance ships, guns and pistols, black Africans were living like white men were in stone age ?

Except that they weren't living like in stone age. Africa is fucking big continent for starters. Some people accustomed living in there with a style that didn't need and even couldn't support making guns, ships, etc. Some had more agriculture, but excluding Egypt none had agriculture in the same scale than in here (but had cities, etc). Western folks tamed Africa with modern medicine and methods, before that they had hard times (couldn't do it), and timewise all this happened not that long time ago. And it still isn't quite tamed. Malaria and all that shit ain't that much tamed yet.

Advanced societies need large scale agriculture. No big guns and ships without it, and no large armies. And it is hard to have large scale agriculture in Africa without modern methods, and developing modern methods requires large scale agriculture (so, dead end).

Grapesoda · 05-02-2015, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

I dont know if I'm not writing in English or you dont understand English, but you didnt answer my question.
which was:
but did you asked yourself WHY in XVII, XVIII or XIX century, when white man has long distance ships, guns and pistols, black Africans were living like white men were in stone age ?
was it also a fault of white men ?

it was gw bush's fault, that and the k2 boundary, both bush's fault...

Grapesoda · 05-02-2015, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123

Except that they weren't living like in stone age. Africa is fucking big continent for starters. Some people accustomed living in there with a style that didn't need and even couldn't support making guns, ships, etc. Some had more agriculture, but excluding Egypt none had agriculture in the same scale than in here (but had cities, etc). Western folks tamed Africa with modern medicine and methods, before that they had hard times (couldn't do it), and timewise all this happened not that long time ago. And it still isn't quite tamed. Malaria and all that shit ain't that much tamed yet.

Advanced societies need large scale agriculture. No big guns and ships without it, and no large armies. And it is hard to have large scale agriculture in Africa without modern methods, and developing modern methods requires large scale agriculture (so, dead end).

whoops... that' is the STONE AGE... no bronze, no iron?? seriously dude your really reaching.... and native Africas did have large armies to FIGHT AND ENSLAVE each other... you really live in a 3rd grade dream world....

pimpmaster9000 · 05-02-2015, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

I dont know if I'm not writing in English or you dont understand English, but you didnt answer my question.
which was:
but did you asked yourself WHY in XVII, XVIII or XIX century, when white man has long distance ships, guns and pistols, black Africans were living like white men were in stone age ?
was it also a fault of white men ?

and I showed you how the typical white man treats the typical black man with some pictures from the worlds most advanced society just 50 years ago...my English is fine thank you

stone age is a bit of stretch...not having ships for transporting guns and pistols is a crime?...focusing on agriculture is evil?...

why are africans supposed to satisfy some westerners standard or idea of how they should live?

also how africans lived has shit all to do with how they live now in the USA...the whitey brought them there in a whitey system and they, the african people, are not doing well to say the least

now go wash your hands from any responsibility its the western thing to do

we all know its their fault they got kidnapped and turned in to slaves and centuries later they need to be escorted to school by the military (just 50 years ago in the USA) and this is also the blacks fault for not using some of that "magic success powder"

ah watching whiteys dance around being responsible for anything at all

klinton · 05-02-2015, 09:55 AM

and your point is ? was africa developed like Europe in XVI or XIX century or it was rather something like visit from Star Trek, when one developed civilisation meets the other one that is undeveloped ?

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Originally Posted by aka123

Except that they weren't living like in stone age. Africa is fucking big continent for starters. Some people accustomed living in there with a style that didn't need and even couldn't support making guns, ships, etc. Some had more agriculture, but excluding Egypt none had agriculture in the same scale than in here (but had cities, etc). Western folks tamed Africa with modern medicine and methods, before that they had hard times (couldn't do it), and timewise all this happened not that long time ago. And it still isn't quite tamed. Malaria and all that shit ain't that much tamed yet.

Advanced societies need large scale agriculture. No big guns and ships without it, and no large armies. And it is hard to have large scale agriculture in Africa without modern methods, and developing modern methods requires large scale agriculture (so, dead end).

klinton · 05-02-2015, 09:56 AM

i'm sorry, but you wont convince me to support gw bush

he should be charged with war crimes just like his fellows rumsfeld and others

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

it was gw bush's fault, that and the k2 boundary, both bush's fault...

klinton · 05-02-2015, 10:04 AM

first rule in this world: weak is conquered by stronger, dumb is conquerer by smart...
is it the strong and smart ones' fault that the others were weaker and dumber from the beginning ?
Earth is not filled unfortunately wth Buddhists, its filled with carnivores
white men civilisation was stronger and better developed in XVI century and in the future. so they conquered the weak and dumb ones.
Black people from africa are not good in building civilisation structures at all. they prefered to live in tribes
let me know if you will need just one more explanation why Africans were conquered few hundreds years ago, but I'm already tired of explaining it over and over again

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

and I showed you how the typical white man treats the typical black man with some pictures from the worlds most advanced society just 50 years ago...my English is fine thank you

stone age is a bit of stretch...not having ships for transporting guns and pistols is a crime?...focusing on agriculture is evil?...

why are africans supposed to satisfy some westerners standard or idea of how they should live?

also how africans lived has shit all to do with how they live now in the USA...the whitey brought them there in a whitey system and they, the african people, are not doing well to say the least

now go wash your hands from any responsibility its the western thing to do

we all know its their fault they got kidnapped and turned in to slaves and centuries later they need to be escorted to school by the military (just 50 years ago in the USA) and this is also the blacks fault for not using some of that "magic success powder"

ah watching whiteys dance around being responsible for anything at all

Bladewire · 05-02-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

let me know if you will need just one more explanation why Africans were conquered few hundreds years ago...

Africa was Conquered?

rogueteens · 05-02-2015, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

they got kidnapped and turned in to slaves

You really don't understand who actually did the kidnapping and enslaving do you?

aka123 · 05-02-2015, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

whoops... that' is the STONE AGE... no bronze, no iron?? seriously dude your really reaching.... and native Africas did have large armies to FIGHT AND ENSLAVE each other... you really live in a 3rd grade dream world....

Have you taken something? And no, Africans didn't have large armies. Neither had westerners before industrialization started to kick in (at the times of conquering Africa).

Of course depends what you think is large army, but real mass armies golden age was from 1900 onwards. For example mighty Rome had about 180 000 men at best. Napoleon about 500 000 (1800-).

aka123 · 05-02-2015, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

and your point is ? was africa developed like Europe in XVI or XIX century or it was rather something like visit from Star Trek, when one developed civilisation meets the other one that is undeveloped ?

My point was that Africa wasn't and isn't very good place for advanced societies. Especially the middle part. Around coast there are more suitable places; most notably Egypt and South-Africa. Both had somewhat advanced civilizations before westerners/ and or Asian inventions (like gunpowder).

Grapesoda · 05-02-2015, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123

Have you taken something? And no, Africans didn't have large armies. Neither were western armies before industrialization started to kick in (at the times of conquering Africa).

Of course depends what you think is large army, but real mass armies golden age was from 1900 onwards. For example mighty Rome had about 180 000 men at best.

you're so fucking high

Home - Ancient Warfare - Karwansaray Publishers

aka123 · 05-02-2015, 11:59 AM

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you're so fucking high

Home - Ancient Warfare - Karwansaray Publishers

Nice illustrations, what is your point? Where are the mass armies?

WarChild · 05-02-2015, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

You really don't understand who actually did the kidnapping and enslaving do you?

No, he really doesn't. In his mind, band of white men were roaming the African countryside taking poor African men from their villages where they lived in harmony and peace with natural and all the surrounding villages. Tribalism is just a myth perpetuated by white people to hold the black man down.

In all seriousness though, it's not really his fault. He's an undereducated war refugee with no real chance at life so he's quite bitter. Fair enough I guess.

aka123 · 05-02-2015, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Africa was Conquered?

Yes, you can still see from the lines how it was divided between conquesting folks. Using ruler was hit at that time. Looking US states you can see that ruler was very pop at there too.

https://www.google.fi/maps/@3.252457,23.6211706,4z

Grapesoda · 05-02-2015, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

No, he really doesn't. In his mind, band of white men were roaming the African countryside taking poor African men from their villages where they lived in harmony and peace with natural and all the surrounding villages. Tribalism is just a myth perpetuated by white people to hold the black man down.

In all seriousness though, it's not really his fault. He's an undereducated war refugee with no real chance at life so he's quite bitter. Fair enough I guess.

oddly enough this is the tack new history is taking...I always have 1 question for these cats... why did African tribes and Indian tribes have a warrior class....????

klinton · 05-02-2015, 03:01 PM

exactly, and the black people were living in....
and first time I hear that Africans were first to invent gunpowder, I've been always thinking it was a China;-)

unless you mean guys from Middle East which is not exactly black Africa

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Originally Posted by aka123

My point was that Africa wasn't and isn't very good place for advanced societies. Especially the middle part. Around coast there are more suitable places; most notably Egypt and South-Africa. Both had somewhat advanced civilizations before westerners/ and or Asian inventions (like gunpowder).

klinton · 05-02-2015, 03:01 PM

anyway, the people who build empires on that and made BIG money, were the white guys....

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

You really don't understand who actually did the kidnapping and enslaving do you?

aka123 · 05-02-2015, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton

exactly, and the black people were living in....
and first time I hear that Africans were first to invent gunpowder, I've been always thinking it was a China;-)

unless you mean guys from Middle East which is not exactly black Africa

Maybe you too should go to sleep?

"before westerners/ and or Asian inventions (like gunpowder)."

To be more exact: before westerners and the inventions from Middle-East and Asia. Chickens are from Asia too.

Grapesoda · 05-02-2015, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123

Maybe you too should go to sleep?

"before westerners/ and or Asian inventions (like gunpowder)."

To be more exact: before westerners and the inventions from Middle-East and Asia. Chickens are from Asia too.

klinton · 05-02-2015, 06:41 PM

the only "empire" worth mentioning from Africa - and not from Middle east or North, Arab Africa- that comes to my mind is the Ethiopian empire.
the rest was just dancing around the fire and fighting with lions

anyway, it doesnt matter as none of these african "empires" had any real knowledge, sciene or tech that could be dagerous for European conquers from XV century and upwards.
once again - they were in technological shithole

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Originally Posted by aka123

Maybe you too should go to sleep?

"before westerners/ and or Asian inventions (like gunpowder)."

To be more exact: before westerners and the inventions from Middle-East and Asia. Chickens are from Asia too.

aka123 · 05-03-2015, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

the only "empire" worth mentioning from Africa - and not from Middle east or North, Arab Africa- that comes to my mind is the Ethiopian empire.

But Carthage is most famous one (after even more ancient Egypt). Feared even by Roman empire. Actually, I am going to say Egypt, but these empires were at their height in so different times, that it is worth to mention both.

ilnjscb · 05-03-2015, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

and I showed you how the typical white man treats the typical black man with some pictures from the worlds most advanced society just 50 years ago...my English is fine thank you

stone age is a bit of stretch...not having ships for transporting guns and pistols is a crime?...focusing on agriculture is evil?...

why are africans supposed to satisfy some westerners standard or idea of how they should live?

also how africans lived has shit all to do with how they live now in the USA...the whitey brought them there in a whitey system and they, the african people, are not doing well to say the least

now go wash your hands from any responsibility its the western thing to do

we all know its their fault they got kidnapped and turned in to slaves and centuries later they need to be escorted to school by the military (just 50 years ago in the USA) and this is also the blacks fault for not using some of that "magic success powder"

ah watching whiteys dance around being responsible for anything at all

He just hates the USA, he jumps on any chance to criticize it; he never says anything positive. How many blacks do you have in Serbia? Be honest, what is the Serbian attitude towards blacks? What do you think of Islam? Be honest. Do you want to go into the war crimes of Serbia? People would take you more seriously if you discuss the good with the bad - look up the word "objective".

aka123 · 05-03-2015, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

He just hates the USA, he jumps on any chance to criticize it; he never says anything positive. How many blacks do you have in Serbia? Be honest, what is the Serbian attitude towards blacks? What do you think of Islam? Be honest. Do you want to go into the war crimes of Serbia? People would take you more seriously if you discuss the good with the bad - look up the word "objective".

I don't see very strong relation between blacks in US and blacks in Serbia. Blacks were forcefully brought to former one. So, Serbians can be "We don't want blacks in here.", US can't, as they already have significant black population. You reap what you sow.

For example I don't want blacks in Finland, but I don't want any abuse towards those who already are in here. Despite normal deporting if necessary, as criminal refugees are sometimes deported.

It is kinda late to start after centuries; "Get out of here, you don't belong to here." Especially the ones saying that aren't any more natives in US, excluding indians.

pimpmaster9000 · 05-03-2015, 05:14 AM

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He just hates the USA, he jumps on any chance to criticize it; he never says anything positive.

well the US corporate government tells the rest of the world how to live either by political or financial extortion or by plain old terrorism...the USA "jumps on any chance" to criticize others, and its american population support this wholeheartedly...the USA never says anything positive about its "enemies":

vietman= evil evil communists trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
korea= evil evil communists trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
russians= evil evil communists trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
avghanistan= evil evil muslims trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
iran=evil evil muslims trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
iraq=evil evil muslims trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
africa=low IQ barbarians who deserve to be slaves
ect
ect

so in the light of the fact that the USA expects others to live like its corporate government says so, or get bombed, the USA opens itself wide open to criticism...your country is "great" if you are rich...and full of shit if you are not...

want others to stop mentioning you in a negative context? then stay the fuck at home, use your own oil, shut the fuck up, and do not make the rest of the world have to arm the fuck up to keep you klingons at home...also you may want to invest in education some more instead of the """""""""""""""""defence budget""""""""""""""""""

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

How many blacks do you have in Serbia? Be honest, what is the Serbian attitude towards blacks? What do you think of Islam? Be honest. Do you want to go into the war crimes of Serbia? People would take you more seriously if you discuss the good with the bad - look up the word "objective".

serbia is probably the whitest country in the world...we are poor as fuck and no black man in his right mind would come to serbia...maybe 2-3 basketball players or some poor exchange student...I think we have 100 blacks total, and we view them as exotic...like people from hawaii or wherever

want objective? ok I think you should do the exact same thing in baltimore as you did in my country...there is obviously violence and trouble in baltimore, waaaaaaaaaaaaay mooooooooooore trouble than my country ever ever had *before the USA gave arms and logistical support to separatists in my country* so in all fairness I think you should arm the black people of baltimore like you armed the separatists in my country

you are obviously a troubled troubled country, where people riot in the streets and if this was some other shit hole you would be devastating the local economy with sanctions and blackmailing the shit out of the population with US corporate demands...

do as you did in serbia= arm the rioting population the fuck up and give them military and political support

ilnjscb · 05-03-2015, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

well the US corporate government tells the rest of the world how to live either by political or financial extortion or by plain old terrorism...the USA "jumps on any chance" to criticize others, and its american population support this wholeheartedly...the USA never says anything positive about its "enemies":

vietman= evil evil communists trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
korea= evil evil communists trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
russians= evil evil communists trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
avghanistan= evil evil muslims trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
iran=evil evil muslims trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
iraq=evil evil muslims trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
africa=low IQ barbarians who deserve to be slaves
ect
ect

so in the light of the fact that the USA expects others to live like its corporate government says so, or get bombed, the USA opens itself wide open to criticism...your country is "great" if you are rich...and full of shit if you are not...

want others to stop mentioning you in a negative context? then stay the fuck at home, use your own oil, shut the fuck up, and do not make the rest of the world have to arm the fuck up to keep you klingons at home...also you may want to invest in education some more instead of the """""""""""""""""defence budget""""""""""""""""""

serbia is probably the whitest country in the world...we are poor as fuck and no black man in his right mind would come to serbia...maybe 2-3 basketball players or some poor exchange student...I think we have 100 blacks total, and we view them as exotic...like people from hawaii or wherever

want objective? ok I think you should do the exact same thing in baltimore as you did in my country...there is obviously violence and trouble in baltimore, waaaaaaaaaaaaay mooooooooooore trouble than my country ever ever had *before the USA gave arms and logistical support to separatists in my country* so in all fairness I think you should arm the black people of baltimore like you armed the separatists in my country

you are obviously a troubled troubled country, where people riot in the streets and if this was some other shit hole you would be devastating the local economy with sanctions and blackmailing the shit out of the population with US corporate demands...

do as you did in serbia= arm the rioting population the fuck up and give them military and political support

I agree with you on some of the points above, and have said so many times. Do you see the difference? I don't come off as a cartoon character - do you have ANYTHING to say positive? Also do you really imagine that the US supports everything wholeheartedly? We in the US disagree with each other on many points - vigorously. When I travel internationally I am frequently embarrassed by our ridiculous spying on everyone everywhere - again I have said so many times. Now be a man and admit that Serbia has a fucked up hatred for the Croats - should I get the exact figures of how many men, women, and children were ruthlessly murdered? Do you hear anyone saying genocide? I challenge you now to say you apologize for all the children that were killed in the last 40 years by Serbian soldiers.

pimpmaster9000 · 05-03-2015, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

I agree with you on some of the points above, and have said so many times. Do you see the difference? I don't come off as a cartoon character - do you have ANYTHING to say positive? Also do you really imagine that the US supports everything wholeheartedly? We in the US disagree with each other on many points - vigorously. When I travel internationally I am frequently embarrassed by our ridiculous spying on everyone everywhere - again I have said so many times. Now be a man and admit that Serbia has a fucked up hatred for the Croats - should I get the exact figures of how many men, women, and children were ruthlessly murdered? Do you hear anyone saying genocide? I challenge you now to say you apologize for all the children that were killed in the last 40 years by Serbian soldiers.

I do not live under the illusion that americans give a shit about anything other than merica...I really believe americans simply do not give a shit and this is what I really think...

as for "be a man and admit serbs hate croats" well you first have to learn a little history:

1) serbia was not involved in the war at all
2) the bosnian war was basically the whole world against the serb minority in BOSNIA and croatia, this is why it is called the war in BOSNIA and not the war in Serbia
3) we had more peace between serbia and croatia, before the US supported war, than the USA ever ever ever ever had on its own territory...
4) a peace deal was already signed by all 3 sides and then the USA gave military and political support to separatists...
5) american presidents and politics are not very honest, bill clinton "the man who did not have sex with that woman" is basically a good indicator of how desperate US politics have become...so is george "invisibe WMD in iraq" bush...

the USA is one political party above a dictatorship...and both parties have the same corporate masters...

ilnjscb · 05-03-2015, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

I do not live under the illusion that americans give a shit about anything other than merica...I really believe americans simply do not give a shit and this is what I really think...

as for "be a man and admit serbs hate croats" well you first have to learn a little history:

1) serbia was not involved in the war at all
2) the bosnian war was basically the whole world against the serb minority in BOSNIA and croatia, this is why it is called the war in BOSNIA and not the war in Serbia
3) we had more peace between serbia and croatia, before the US supported war, than the USA ever ever ever ever had on its own territory...
4) a peace deal was already signed by all 3 sides and then the USA gave military and political support to separatists...
5) american presidents and politics are not very honest, bill clinton "the man who did not have sex with that woman" is basically a good indicator of how desperate US politics have become...so is george "invisibe WMD in iraq" bush...

the USA is one political party above a dictatorship...and both parties have the same corporate masters...

This saddens me - you devolve into trivia rather than simply say, here on an international board, that you are sorry for the *children* that were killed by Serbian soldiers. It wasn't your fault, but you could at least admit it. The things the US does are not my fault, but rather than go write 50,000 words per day about how I hate a random country X, I try to do something about it.

I have said publicly before you seem like a smart guy - your English is much better than my Serbian. But you would be more effective if you took a balanced view of your country and mine.

RandyRandy · 05-03-2015, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

Shit's going to keep getting worse and worse.

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Those are literally the third generation of those morons that I've personally seen. I remember them as the 12 lost tribes of Israel, back in the late 70s, in the middle of Times Square. Same quoting from the bible and yelling at "so called" White people.

bronco67 · 05-03-2015, 08:41 AM

What we can take away from this long rambling thread is that Grapesoda is a fucking fool who lives in Montana and has never actually seen or talked to a black person.

pimpmaster9000 · 05-03-2015, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

This saddens me - you devolve into trivia rather than simply say, here on an international board, that you are sorry for the *children* that were killed by Serbian soldiers. It wasn't your fault, but you could at least admit it. The things the US does are not my fault, but rather than go write 50,000 words per day about how I hate a random country X, I try to do something about it.

I have said publicly before you seem like a smart guy - your English is much better than my Serbian. But you would be more effective if you took a balanced view of your country and mine.

here is a balanced view, americans vote this in to power:

Covert United States foreign regime change actions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

considering the USA is only 5% of the worlds population:

now taking in to account the above I would say my views, to my great regret, are balanced...you are a 2 party north korea with money....I can bet my nuts that kim jong un will win the next elections in N.korea but a more certain bet would be that the democrats or republicans will win the ones in the USA

I would like to believe americans do not support their governments foreign policy, but they volunteer in droves to go bomb other countries and keep voting in the same corporate governments over and over again and "thank you for your service" their terrorists when they come home...5% of the world that is the USA does 50% of the military spending, how north korea can you get?

I understand that the US economy is a huge bubble and that voting in change, instead of exploiting the world, would mean hard hard times for the USA...for this very reason you will vote democrat or republican for as long as the bubble will hold...

I sympathize with the black people in the USA because we in the 3rd world are in a similar position...we were only 20 years under crippling sanctions and I know how hard it is to recover when all the "aid" that comes in is nothing more than loan sharking...exactly like the poor are treated in the USA...

as for the white people in the USA, I do not think they are "out to get me"...but I truly believe that if they had the chance of having cheaper gas, at the expense of some 3rd world country getting completely obliterated, they would take the chance and not give it a second thought...

Grapesoda · 05-03-2015, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

The things the US does are not my fault, .

I can tell you as a US citizen our fucked up gov does ALL KINDS shit I wish they wouldn't do. fact is we really don't have much control.... even when we vote one way the gov dumps the fucking vote... seen it a few times around here in LA.... my feeing is you have a fucking government, let your fucking government sort your shitty issue out

klinton · 05-03-2015, 06:10 PM

2,000 years ago, founded in NORTH AFRICA and it was far from being "Black Empire" as it was founded by white Arab/ Semitian guys

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Originally Posted by aka123

But Carthage is most famous one (after even more ancient Egypt). Feared even by Roman empire. Actually, I am going to say Egypt, but these empires were at their height in so different times, that it is worth to mention both.

aka123 · 05-04-2015, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

2,000 years ago, founded in NORTH AFRICA and it was far from being "Black Empire" as it was founded by white Arab/ Semitian guys

It has to be black empire? Well, excluding blacks, the muslims had empire around there all the way up to Spain, and about 500 years ago.

I will throw a ball back to you. Why didn't the all mighty and superior whiteys establish significant settlements around the equator, especially in the middle parts? Most whiteys live either in North-Africa, or in South-Africa, and even the rest somewhat near the coast.

White Africans of European ancestry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Grapesoda · 05-04-2015, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123

But Carthage is most famous one (after even more ancient Egypt). Feared even by Roman empire. Actually, I am going to say Egypt, but these empires were at their height in so different times, that it is worth to mention both.

oh?? you referring to the civilization where every living animal, person and crop was destroyed, all the buildings pulled down and the land tilled with salt? that great civilization????

aka123 · 05-04-2015, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

oh?? you referring to the civilization where every living animal, person and crop was destroyed, all the buildings pulled down and the land tilled with salt? that great civilization????

Empires don't tend to last forever, at least without changes. And it was another civilization that did the destruction part. Blaim them. I don't think that many blames for example the countries those nazies invaded. France, etc. "That great civilization? LOL."

ilnjscb · 05-04-2015, 08:25 AM

USA is not Rome - we're lucky if we get to be the Hittites. Rome was the one 1000 year power; half of the shit done today comes from it.

It was also filled with slaves.

Maybe democracies and republics don't last, who knows? Kingship appears, in some cases to last longer, but every third king (at best) people suffer, even in stable empires. Socialist die in 30-50 years, totally unstable and easily turns into state terror and torture / mass execution. Greece, US, pre-empire Rome, max 300 years.

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ilnjscb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8,790	USA is not Rome - we're lucky if we get to be the Hittites. Rome was the one 1000 year power; half of the shit done today comes from it. It was also filled with slaves. Maybe democracies and republics don't last, who knows? Kingship appears, in some cases to last longer, but every third king (at best) people suffer, even in stable empires. Socialist die in 30-50 years, totally unstable and easily turns into state terror and torture / mass execution. Greece, US, pre-empire Rome, max 300 years.