Trump would win based on the issue most important to Americans.

[dyna mo]

It's the economy, stupid.

Priorities

[takethebluepill]

Nope. I think it has more to do with the average intelligence of the average person. People overall are not smart. (There's a reason why in advertising and mainstream media you are told to write at a grade 7 level of comprehension).
The average person sees how they think the world works (or should work) in a very simplistic way. And that same average person has a vote, just like you and I.
Trump is an expert at feeding on this simplistic view.

[L-Pink]

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by takethebluepill

Nope. I think it has more to do with the average intelligence of the average person. People overall are not smart. (There's a reason why in advertising and mainstream media you are told to write at a grade 7 level of comprehension).
The average person sees how they think the world works (or should work) in a very simplistic way. And that same average person has a vote, just like you and I.
Trump is an expert at feeding on this simplistic view.

that's not at all accurate. i'm using real data from polling. the demographics of the voting blocks that support Trump at this point defy completely your characterization.

college grads, women, future entrepreneurs, all count themselves as part of the demographics that support Trump.

combine those demographics with the priority issue BY FAR being the economy and James Carville was right back in the 1990s. it's the economy, stupid.


and i'm also thinking the market correction and other economic news going forward will only add more support.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

that was fast, Trump has his finger on the pulse.

[j3rkules]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

that was fast, Trump has his finger on the pulse.

That is the single most important issue. And no one in their right mind sees Arkansas trailer park developer Hillary doing anything except making it worse.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by takethebluepill

Nope. I think it has more to do with the average intelligence of the average person. People overall are not smart. (There's a reason why in advertising and mainstream media you are told to write at a grade 7 level of comprehension).
The average person sees how they think the world works (or should work) in a very simplistic way. And that same average person has a vote, just like you and I.
Trump is an expert at feeding on this simplistic view.

So you are saying that is how President Obama won? Didn't he promise "Free" health care and even free "Obama phones"?
Or are people just stupid when you don't personally like a candidate who is winning, and then miraculously smart when the guy you like wins?

[$5 submissions]

Like him or not, Trump doesn't take bullshit....

The man doesn't BACK DOWN

Non-alpha bitch ass politicians would have been cowering, positioning, angling, and doing all sorts of shit... Not the Donald.

I don't agree with everything he says but, hey, give RESPECT where respect is due: This dude is an Alpha male leader.

Case in point:



Keep in mind that Trump ANSWERED this dude's question when went back into the room after 20 minutes. Guy was just trying to ask questions out of turn and causing a ruckus and that's why he got booted.

[j3rkules]

An illegal immigration activist not respecting the rule of law. How shocking.

[wehateporn]

If the voting was real Trump would win

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...per-tapes.html

[Rochard]

I am watching Trump talking on CNN right now as I write this, and he is killing me.

Trump seems to believe that he can make something happen by saying it - and people believe it. He said "I am going to make us rich again". That sounds great - but how is he going to do this? Unemployment is at 5.3% and it's not going to get much better than that. Does Trump have a plan to make our economy better than it is now?

Right now he is doing his bit about how they are building factories in Mexico. He is talking about trade agreements but what Trump completely fails to understand is that he cannot just make up an agreement and make it happen. Private business might work that way, but politics does not. I think he is in for a surprise. (He just said "Illegals are going to be driving new cars across the boarder". Huh?)

I love it when he talks about his plan for the border. He claims he wants build a wall with our border with Mexico. Great. A recent report on CNN said it would $700 billion to double the wall we currently have, which isn't working right now. If it was a simple matter of spending $700 billion and building a wall we would have one it right now. But we aren't going to spend $700 billion, and even if we do it won't be effective.

Trump just said "No one can buy me" but wasn't it just announced he was courting donors the other day?

Every night I pray that Palin will sign up as his running mate, and I pray that they win. It will make the best television ever. I can't wait to see him serve fast food at his first state dinner like he said earlier today.

[bronco67]

and what does Mr Trump have to do with the US economy which has been steadily getting better? Can he show the government how to inherit a business from a rich father and file for bankruptcy four times?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by bronco67

and what does Mr Trump have to do with the US economy which has been steadily getting better? Can he show the government how to inherit a business from a rich father and file for bankruptcy four times?

how many times should the USA have already gone bankrupt? the status-quo gov has raised the debt ceiling how many times?


what is your candidate's experience on the economy?

and bankruptcies are only a part of the story of taking $50 million to $10 billion.

dan bilzerian's old man left him $50 million, dan's blowing it on hookers and blow, not turning it into billions and making a real run for the pres.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Trump seems to believe that he can make something happen by saying it - and people believe it. He said "I am going to make us rich again". That sounds great - but how is he going to do this?

Worked for this guy. Twice. Seems like a winning method.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Robbie

So you are saying that is how President Obama won? Didn't he promise "Free" health care and even free "Obama phones"?
Or are people just stupid when you don't personally like a candidate who is winning, and then miraculously smart when the guy you like wins?

The phone program started under Reagan.

[kane]

I have said for a long time that when it comes election time people look around at their life and take inventory. If they have a good job and they feel they are secure in that job and they have a decent place to live, their kids are doing fine and overall their life is pretty good, they don't want change and they will likely vote for the person that will keep it the same or only change things they want. If they aren't doing well they will vote for the person who will at least promise to the help them the most. Right now the economic situation in this country is not good. Most of the new jobs that are being created are low paying service and retail jobs and a lot of people are underemployed. They see a billionaire who knows how to make money telling them he will bring the good jobs back and it resonates.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by bronco67

and what does Mr Trump have to do with the US economy which has been steadily getting better? Can he show the government how to inherit a business from a rich father and file for bankruptcy four times?

That's just it - every four year it's the same exact rallying cry "We need change". In case anyone hasn't noticed, the entire Republican party has dropped the entire "the economy is horrible" routine. We got out of two years, haven't started any others, we are fixing our economy, and everything is peachy. What the fuck do we need change for?

What is Trump going to do about our economy? He knows nothing about how government works, nothing at all.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Sly

Worked for this guy. Twice. Seems like a winning method.

And that guy took office our economy was down on it's knees - and we brought the rest of the world with it. Now we have 5.3% unemployment. Seems like he kept his promise.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by kane

I have said for a long time that when it comes election time people look around at their life and take inventory. If they have a good job and they feel they are secure in that job and they have a decent place to live, their kids are doing fine and overall their life is pretty good, they don't want change and they will likely vote for the person that will keep it the same or only change things they want. If they aren't doing well they will vote for the person who will at least promise to the help them the most. Right now the economic situation in this country is not good. Most of the new jobs that are being created are low paying service and retail jobs and a lot of people are underemployed. They see a billionaire who knows how to make money telling them he will bring the good jobs back and it resonates.

Trump keeps saying "The American Dream is dead". Bullshit. The American Dream is alive and well, and better than ever. The neighbor across the street just bought a new nice Mercedes, the neighbor next to him just installed solar and repainted their house, and the neighbor next to them has a beautiful Chevy Chevelle as their "weekend car". The guy behind me is building a fucking airplane in his garage (although I am still not sure why).

The American Dream was shattered during the recession when people were loosing their jobs and their houses. Now the American Dream is alive and kicking.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Rochard

And that guy took office our economy was down on it's knees - and we brought the rest of the world with it. Now we have 5.3% unemployment. Seems like he kept his promise.

He shouted Hope and Change.

Nobody had a clue what it meant!

You said it worked. That's fine.

Trump says the same thing. Why not the same leap of faith?

[dyna mo]

rochard's completely disconnected

With many Americans still worried about the economy, Republican and Democratic presidential candidates have taken turns promising to boost economic growth and help improve the fortunes of the middle class.

A recent Gallup survey found that 86 percent of Americans think the economy will be very or extremely important to their vote next year, a significantly higher percentage than concern about terrorism, foreign affairs or other issues.

https://www.google.com/search?q=econ...&q=economy+gop

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

how many times should the USA have already gone bankrupt? the status-quo gov has raised the debt ceiling how many times?


what is your candidate's experience on the economy?

and bankruptcies are only a part of the story of taking $50 million to $10 billion.

dan bilzerian's old man left him $50 million, dan's blowing it on hookers and blow, not turning it into billions and making a real run for the pres.

I can't understand why a seemingly intelligent person would keep defending an asshat like Donald Trump. The guy is a giant sack of shit with an awful toupe and is a boorish, braggadocious, arrogant, over-confident jerk to boot. He's an awful person, and acts like he has a third grade education. I don't get it.

He deserves no admiration. He's a fucking clown and he proves it every time he opens his stupid mouth. I have faith that the American people are smart enough to not let this idiot get anywhere near the White House because he'll make America the laughing stock of the world.

[Spieglergirls]

DEMAGOGUE: A demagogue /ˈdɛməɡɒɡ/ (from French "demagogue", derived in turn from the Greek "demos" = people/folk and the verb "ago" = carry/manipulate thus "people's manipulator") or rabble-rouser is a political leader in a democracy who appeals to the emotions, fears, prejudices, and ignorance of the lower socioeconomic classes in order to gain power and promote political motives. Demagogues usually oppose deliberation and advocate immediate, violent action to address a national crisis; they accuse moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness. Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. They exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, nothing stops the people from giving that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by bronco67

I can't understand why a seemingly intelligent person would keep defending as asshat like Donald Trump. The guy is a giant sack of shit with an awful toupe and is a boorish, braggadocious, arrogant, over-confident jerk to boot. He's an awful person, and acts like he has a third grade education. I don't get it.

i've respected your opinion of Trump, i'd appreciate it if you do the same.

the bottomline for me is i am open and free to vote for any of the candidates, as such, i keep an open mind to what they all have to say. at this point, as i've mentioned to you and here many many times, jim webb is "my guy".

and i'd bet dollars to donuts you are locked into voting a democrat candidate. you are free to do that,

regardless, this thread point out how important the economy is to voters combined with a successful businessman outsider running for office against the status-quo politicians that spend trillions to get the economy where it is.

but my question to you still stands, what experience does your guy have (or any of the dem candidates) re: the economy?

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I am watching Trump talking on CNN right now as I write this, and he is killing me.

Trump seems to believe that he can make something happen by saying it - and people believe it. He said "I am going to make us rich again". That sounds great - but how is he going to do this? Unemployment is at 5.3% and it's not going to get much better than that. Does Trump have a plan to make our economy better than it is now?

Right now he is doing his bit about how they are building factories in Mexico. He is talking about trade agreements but what Trump completely fails to understand is that he cannot just make up an agreement and make it happen. Private business might work that way, but politics does not. I think he is in for a surprise. (He just said "Illegals are going to be driving new cars across the boarder". Huh?)

I love it when he talks about his plan for the border. He claims he wants build a wall with our border with Mexico. Great. A recent report on CNN said it would $700 billion to double the wall we currently have, which isn't working right now. If it was a simple matter of spending $700 billion and building a wall we would have one it right now. But we aren't going to spend $700 billion, and even if we do it won't be effective.

Trump just said "No one can buy me" but wasn't it just announced he was courting donors the other day?

Every night I pray that Palin will sign up as his running mate, and I pray that they win. It will make the best television ever. I can't wait to see him serve fast food at his first state dinner like he said earlier today.

I agree. The only way this could get more hilarious is if Palin became his running mate. Comedians around the world would have a field day and I would never leave my comfy TV couch ever again.

One good thing I will say about Trump is that he is really pissing off Fox News and the other republicans. This is fantastic - they all needed to be taken down a peg. And just today, he called Megyn Kelly a Bimbo . Bahahaha that was great.

You bring the Popcorn, Rochard, I'll bring the beer.

[Robbie]

And yet President Obama did the EXACT SAME THING in his campaign.

"YES HE CAN" Remember those chants?

Sweet Jesus...you people are so caught up in your team sports view of politics that you can't even step back and see that your precious Democrat and Republican politicians ALL make promises and pretend that they can somehow make them work.

"Yes He Can", "Hope and Change"

LOL

EDIT: And again ********** is lying through his teeth. Trump did NOT call Megyn Kelly a "bimbo" Someone else did on Twitter and Trump retweeted it to be an asshole because she treated him like a bitch during the debate.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Spieglergirls

DEMAGOGUE: A demagogue /ˈdɛməɡɒɡ/ (from French "demagogue", derived in turn from the Greek "demos" = people/folk and the verb "ago" = carry/manipulate thus "people's manipulator") or rabble-rouser is a political leader in a democracy who appeals to the emotions, fears, prejudices, and ignorance of the lower socioeconomic classes in order to gain power and promote political motives. Demagogues usually oppose deliberation and advocate immediate, violent action to address a national crisis; they accuse moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness. Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. They exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, nothing stops the people from giving that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.

That pretty much nails it.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Trump keeps saying "The American Dream is dead". Bullshit. The American Dream is alive and well, and better than ever. The neighbor across the street just bought a new nice Mercedes, the neighbor next to him just installed solar and repainted their house, and the neighbor next to them has a beautiful Chevy Chevelle as their "weekend car". The guy behind me is building a fucking airplane in his garage (although I am still not sure why).

The American Dream was shattered during the recession when people were loosing their jobs and their houses. Now the American Dream is alive and kicking.

The American Dream has always been alive and well. It's harder to get now than it was 20 years ago, but it is still out there.

That said, just because your neighbor bought a car and another is panting their house doesn't mean all is great in the economy.

According to Gallup 14.7% of the people are underemployed and 37% of the population says they are worried about money.

I would ask this. How many of your neighbors are up to their eyes in debt? If they lost their jobs how long until the new Benz is repo'd and the house is foreclosed on?

[Robbie]

kane you're wasting your time.

Rochard bases everything he knows on anecdotal evidence that he sees in his neighborhood.
"Everything is great!"

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by Rochard

That's just it - every four year it's the same exact rallying cry "We need change".

Well, Reagan won 49 States in his second term election with "Stay the Course".
Clinton won his second term essentially the same way.

Since then it's been nothing but partisan, polarizing politics - from both sides who are really all the same.

That's why Trump is in the driver's seat. He's not the same.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Robbie

And yet President Obama did the EXACT SAME THING in his campaign.

"YES HE CAN" Remember those chants?

Sweet Jesus...you people are so caught up in your team sports view of politics that you can't even step back and see that your precious Democrat and Republican politicians ALL make promises and pretend that they can somehow make them work.

"Yes He Can", "Hope and Change"

LOL

EDIT: And again ********** is lying through his teeth. Trump did NOT call Megyn Kelly a "bimbo" Someone else did on Twitter and Trump retweeted it to be an asshole because she treated him like a bitch during the debate.

Ok tough guy, I goofed. Donald Trump, YOUR presidential hopeful, the man you have such a raging hard-on for, RETWEETED someone calling her a Bimbo. Like this is any better than calling her a Bimbo himself. Like this is respectable behaviour for anyone who wants to be YOUR president. By all means, you should vote for him. You will vote for him.

Now please add me to your ignore list, ok big man? No really - I'd really appreciate it.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by bronco67

That pretty much nails it.

You do realize that " lowest common denominator " is feeling disenfranchised right? That the " violent and immediate upheaval" Trump represents is a change of failed, deadlocked USA government?

It's odd to me people would rather label the disenfranchised as ignorant.

[dyna mo]

Megan Kelly represents everything that's wrong with the news media.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Megan Kelly represents everything that's wrong with the news media.

You're so tough.

[clickhappy]

Right or wrong, he's gonna have a hard time winning with these numbers on the hispanic vote





Hillary on the other hand

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Sly

He shouted Hope and Change.

Nobody had a clue what it meant!

You said it worked. That's fine.

Trump says the same thing. Why not the same leap of faith?

You are right. Obamaboy said the same thing - "change".

However, when he said it we were diving head first into a recession and people were loosing their jobs and their houses. Obviously "stay the course" wasn't going to work.

My point is nearly every four years they say "we need change". When Obama said it, we freaking needed change in the worst way. Now.... Not so much. Things are obviously better to the point where the GOP is no longer screaming about the economy.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Well, Reagan won 49 States in his second term election with "Stay the Course".
Clinton won his second term essentially the same way.

Since then it's been nothing but partisan, polarizing politics - from both sides who are really all the same.

That's why Trump is in the driver's seat. He's not the same.

Obviously a sitting president never says "vote for change". But everyone else does.

We went from an administration that drove us straight into the gutter. Let's all accept reality; The Bush administration (whom I voted for btw) brought our country to the lowest point in our lifetime. Things are getting better. We are exactly where we had hoped to be.

We need to stay the course. I am not really saying "Vote Democrat" but we need to go slow and steady.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by kane

The American Dream has always been alive and well. It's harder to get now than it was 20 years ago, but it is still out there.

That said, just because your neighbor bought a car and another is panting their house doesn't mean all is great in the economy.

According to Gallup 14.7% of the people are underemployed and 37% of the population says they are worried about money.

I would ask this. How many of your neighbors are up to their eyes in debt? If they lost their jobs how long until the new Benz is repo'd and the house is foreclosed on?

How is it getting harder? My lord you can lease a freaking BMW for $300 a month.

The amount of people who are unemployed and the percentage of people who say they are concerned about money isn't because of the current administration, but instead directly because of the recession.

The American Dream is alive and well because the Americans are living it. Drive into nearly any suburban town and you'll see the same - lots of houses occupied, cars in the driveway, and everyone has a cell phone in their pocket that has more power than NASA had to get us to moon.

[Jesse Sharpton]

Fuck this clown

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Robbie

kane you're wasting your time.

Rochard bases everything he knows on anecdotal evidence that he sees in his neighborhood.
"Everything is great!"

If I recall correctly you live in Vegas, which happens to have the fourth highest foreclosure rate in the country. What you see isn't what the rest of the country sees.

I can only report on what I see in my area, and for the most part that is Northern California. I saw what happened to my little town here during the recession, and I see what's happened as we are slowly recovering. I posted pictures from the recession here on GFY; Construction just stopped. We had two condo complexes and a restaurant that just stopped half way through. I saw my home town go from big boom to dead stop over night. It was stunning.

Robbie, I like you and your wife. (Mostly your wife.) But you ONLY see things from the Republican standpoint. In the past four elections I've voted Republican twice, and Democratic twice. I vote for what I believe is right, not how what my party tells me to vote.

I believe there are some valid Republican candidates out there, but no one sees them because of Trump. Every year the Hispanic vote gets more and more important, and Trump will never have the Hispanic vote. Remember kids, Mexicans are rapists.

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The Bush administration (whom I voted for btw) brought our country to the lowest point in our lifetime.

I don't know how old you are, but the Carter years were the worst. Double-digit unemployment and interest rates. Terrible inflation. And I still remember my father cursing until he could find a gas station that actually had gas. That's right, there was gas-rationing, with the green, yellow and red flags at gas stations.

I'm 51 and I remember that like it was yesterday.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Rochard

How is it getting harder? My lord you can lease a freaking BMW for $300 a month.

The amount of people who are unemployed and the percentage of people who say they are concerned about money isn't because of the current administration, but instead directly because of the recession.

The American Dream is alive and well because the Americans are living it. Drive into nearly any suburban town and you'll see the same - lots of houses occupied, cars in the driveway, and everyone has a cell phone in their pocket that has more power than NASA had to get us to moon.

I never blamed Obama for the American dream becoming harder to achieve. I blame the overall job market in this country which is a result of 30+ years of bad policy making by all of our leaders.

The recession is playing a major role in this.

Let's look at some numbers that were on Bloomberg a few months back. They break jobs down into 3 categories. A low paying job is any job that pays less than $13 per hour. A mid paying job is a job that pays $13-$25 per hour and anything over $25 per hour is a high paying job. Before the recession when jobs were created about 20% of them were high paying jobs, 20% were low paying and 60% were mid paying jobs. Now since the recession has ended about 20% of all new jobs created are high paying, 20% are mid paying and %60 are lowing paying. So yes, jobs are being created, but many of them are low paying jobs.

Add into that the reality that we now have an entire generation of people who have been sold the lie of college. They were told to get a degree and they would get a job. Many of them now have degrees and the debt to go along with them and they are working for $12 an hour because they can't find a higher paying job. Why can't they find a higher paying job? A couple of reasons. One is that fewer are being created and another is that with the recession a ton of retirement savings and investments were lost so many baby boomers that would have otherwise retired are continuing to work.

So a person can lease a BMW for $300...so what? Is the American Dream to have a nice car and a house and be so buried in debt that you can't afford to do anything but sit in your house and watch TV? To me the American Dream is to have a decent home and car, and live a life where you feel secure in your future, have some money saved up so you can take a vacation every year and not have to worry if you lose your job that you will be losing your house and car within a couple of months.

Here in Portland the average price of a home is $291K. So at 4% that means your monthly payments are around $1541. Add in a BMW at $300 a month, add in a second car at $250 per month lease. Just house and car you are at $2091 per month. Add in food, property taxes, gas, insurance, utilities and other monthly expenses and you could easily get another $1500 on top of that. So you are at around $3500 per month after taxes which means you need to make around $4600 per month pre tax. That is around $28 per hour on average. According to Bloomberg that is a high paying job just to have the average house and average life. In reality the average wage in America is around $16 per hour. For $16 per hour the average person clearly can't afford the average house.

[kane]

Originally Posted by clickhappy

Right or wrong, he's gonna have a hard time winning with these numbers on the hispanic vote





Hillary on the other hand

This is the biggest problem Trump and now the republicans have. Going into this election the republicans had a tightrope to walk. They needed to have some kind of immigration reform ideas that would get enough of the Latino vote to help them win the white house, but not so much that it would piss off the base. Trump has slammed them all the way to the right and forced them to now either take a position that might piss off the base or take a position that would piss off the Latinos.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by **********

Ok tough guy, I goofed. Donald Trump, YOUR presidential hopeful, the man you have such a raging hard-on for, RETWEETED someone calling her a Bimbo. Like this is any better than calling her a Bimbo himself. Like this is respectable behaviour for anyone who wants to be YOUR president. By all means, you should vote for him. You will vote for him.

Now please add me to your ignore list, ok big man? No really - I'd really appreciate it.

"big man" "tough guy" ????

Get over yourself Mark. You exaggerate and try to misrepresent things and then when you get called on it you throw a fit.

Take a deep breath and grow a set.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by kane

This is the biggest problem Trump and now the republicans have. Going into this election the republicans had a tightrope to walk. They needed to have some kind of immigration reform ideas that would get enough of the Latino vote to help them win the white house, but not so much that it would piss off the base. Trump has slammed them all the way to the right and forced them to now either take a position that might piss off the base or take a position that would piss off the Latinos.

Is this what our country has come to?

Instead of leaders leading and trying to do the right things for the country, it's all about consolidating power for the 2 ruling parties.

No wonder we're fucked.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Is this what our country has come to?

Instead of leaders leading and trying to do the right things for the country, it's all about consolidating power for the 2 ruling parties.

No wonder we're fucked.

It is exactly what we have become. This country is so politically divided these days presidential nominees are only worried about what will allow them to win the majority of battleground states.

[clickhappy]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Is this what our country has come to?

Instead of leaders leading and trying to do the right things for the country, it's all about consolidating power for the 2 ruling parties.

No wonder we're fucked.

yeah, dems let illegals come in droves in the past and gave them free access to everything so that today they will return the favor and keep dems in power. Such a shitty strategy to give the country away like that but it worked. Trump's right to want to keep dangerous criminals out, but when he says so he gets this negative backlash.
I dont understand how anyone can oppose violent gang criminals being deported and a solid wall on the border, makes no sense to me.

[sandman!]

if you think our economy is doing well your an idiot

Originally Posted by Rochard

And that guy took office our economy was down on it's knees - and we brought the rest of the world with it. Now we have 5.3% unemployment. Seems like he kept his promise.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Robbie

"big man" "tough guy" ????

Get over yourself Mark. You exaggerate and try to misrepresent things and then when you get called on it you throw a fit.

Take a deep breath and grow a set.

Robbie,

I dun goofed, thinking that your boy Trump called Kelly a Bimbo. Your Bro Dynamo called me a LIAR for it. He didn't say I made a mistake, he said I lied.

As for "growing a set", consider this: I state my opinion on things here in public, and popular or not, I do it under my real name. Your bro Dynamo on the other hand, insults everyone, picks fights with everyone, and does it always under a fake name. My "Tough guy" nick name for him is antithetical, but I'm sure you knew that.