mce

Anyone try this diet?

Care to share your experience?

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dyna mo

It's a fad. Not really even a diet, as in weight loss.

Google Expert

How can you diet if "gluten" is fucking everywhere?

mce

That's one of the things I was meaning to ask.

It's like the universal 'filler' or 'go-to cheap protein source' or 'body enhancer' for food.

The same way HFCS is the 'go to' cheap sweetener.

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rowan

People who do this as a lifestyle choice are creating a market pushing up prices for people who really do need to exclude gluten from their diet.

Fuck fads. Fuck hipsters.

mineistaken

Just read an article about Djokovic, it was said that he changed his diet and saw immediate results as in way more energy and stuff. I believe he cut off gluten as well.

TheSquealer

eating less calories than you burn works... no matter what [insert retarded fad diet] name it goes by. all diets are about ingesting fewer calories than you burn.

incidentally, the gluten myths have been disproven countless times in the last 5+ years in numerous published studies, so if you're that prone to believing hype and idiocy, i doubt reason and logic are going to stop you from believing what you want.

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MakeMeGrrrrowl

Do they work for what exactly?

When I think gluten free, I automatically think autism.

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It's no good for you, everyone is better without it

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mce

Weight loss

Feeling less bloated

Feeling lighter and more energized

For all 3 the only lifestyle change I noticed that works consistently are high protein / low carb / ketogenic diets and straight up fasting (water or juice only for at least 10 days).

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TheSquealer

Look at what you're saying... "feeling lighter"? Huh? What the hell is "feeling lighter"? You feel "lighter" and "less bloated" in a ketogenic diet because your glycogen stores in your muscles become depleted and you shed water as a result (water is stored in conjunction in the muscles with glycogen) and become dehydrated. You're not talking about fat loss, you are talking about a desire to be dehydrated.

Or, you could just eat clean, not be constantly full of ridiculous amounts of salt and sugar and as a result, carrying a lot of extra water weight.

Your body is made to eat balanced meals. Period. There is no healthy or better alternative to eating correction as your body is designed to do.

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MakeMeGrrrrowl

Do you eat a lot of red meat? People who have cut that out of their diet have felt less bloated and had more energy. That's been a HUGE thing I've heard them say the most.

mce

You raise good points. Thank you for taking the time to educate me. Please enlighten me about the item highlighted in bold above.

Which "balanced" plan do you prefer?

Is it safe you're on such a balanced diet? Care to share your experiences as far as the criteria I mentioned earlier?

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Revealed: The diet that saved Novak Djokovic | Tennis | Sport | The Independent That article about Djokovic I mentioned early. It is amazing how much differently he felt just by changing food.

MakeMeGrrrrowl

You're always so smart when it comes to health among other things. I admire that about you and Choopa Phil

poncabare

There is something to be said for it

TheSquealer

"I" don't "prefer" what your own physiology demands for optimal function and health and to maintain daily energy needs as well as physical activity/growth/recovery/repair. Your body is not some abstract organism which we don't understand and which abides by some sort of hidden and inexplicable rules. Your bodys energy requirements are explained by simple physics, not hippy "feel good" ramblings". Nor, is it ever explained properly by a many billion dollar industry which has somehow found "a new way" to lose weight every 5 minutes which is "easy", even though no such thing exists, unless we're getting into pharmaceuticals.

Ideally, you need to first know how many calories a day you need to consume based on your BMR, physical activity and any potential need for recovery/repair. Barring any special needs based on extensive endurance training or something, you should be managing your meals be making sure they are balanced in terms of fats/proteins/carbs - for example 20% fats, 40% carbs, 40% proteins which is a very standard baseline breakdown and adding up to your total daily caloric requirements.

So....
1g of protein is 4 calories
1g of carbs is 4 calories
1g of fat is 9 calroies

2000 calories a day
4-5 meals a day at 20/40/40
... etc.

If you are eating correctly, you won't feel "bloated" at all. Your body is only made to eat one way. That is 100% indisputable. The fact that people are vegan or that you can stay in ketosis etc has nothing to do with the fact that you have a glucose metabolism and require a certain number of calories a day, and certain amounts of essential vitamins and minerals to function.

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11 Ways Gluten Can Damage Your Health | Paleo Leap

Why Gluten Is Bad For Everyone | GreenMedInfo | Blog Entry

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mce

Thanks for sharing that. Awesome story.

It made me sad though....

I can't quit PASTA.

There's just something about arrabiata/puttanesca/aglio olio that I just can't quit....

It's bad... as in Brokeback Mountain "I can't quit you" bad

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TheSquealer

Fuck off you fucking idiot. You are "anti" everything. You buy into every fucking conspiracy under the sun... from lizard people to ancient aliens building the pyramids to anti vaccination to the moon landing. You claim to "educate" doctors and the simple fact is that you are a mentally ill idiot who needs to be in treatment.

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TheSquealer

Then
a. you can't ever be in ketosis
b. you'll be retaining a lot of water as the starches are converted to glycogen and stored in your muscles along with the resulting water (3 grams of water / 1g of glycogen), leaving you to feel "heavy" and "bloated"

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lezinterracial

Is gluten free the same thing as the Atkins diet?

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if you have heart burn or acid reflex it might help removing flour products period.

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Don't worry about gluten. Calories in vs calories out is important -- but just as important is conditioning your system for better nutrient partitioning.

"losing weight" is just putting a temporary band aid on the problem. Focus on building muscle, and the weight problem will be taken care of.

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dyna mo

These threads ALL go the same, I got bored years ago typing out explanations in them after each and every one of the ops reveal they have no inclination whatsoever to eat better.

Follow up on this one, you'll see. If you're serious, you don't come to gfy and ask about fad eating plans.

mce

Good point.

That's why after every keto diet session I always end up packing on weight.

You raise some good points regarding 'context-specific' meal plans.

I'll definitely take up some of the tips you mentioned.

Best of all, I don't have to feel like I'm depriving myself (like giving up on pasta - gluten-free pasta doesn't taste the same)

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But he did not quit pasta. He eats it (gluten free) daily.
Check it (#5):
https://www.yahoo.com/health/8-food-...122827974.html

MakeMeGrrrrowl

Very true. If I'm going to try and lose some weight I usually just drink more water, and stick to usually just eggs, chicken and veggies. All that other stuff just gets confusing.

mineistaken

Are you saying we should not eat pasta?
Every (almost every) sports person eats it and swears by it. Of course they burn more calories than average Joe.

TheSquealer

dynamo is right in that these threads are always a pain in the ass. I just get tired of the constant "hey, does this over simplified and usually nonsense short cut which does nothing to address eating habits as a whole, work" type questions.

did i say "you should not eat pasta"?

no.

i said absolutely nothing even remotely close to that.

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There have been studies done showing there is no such thing as "gluten intolerance" the only exception is those who have celiac disease.

mineistaken

Just read that it will leave him "heavy and bloated" and understood it as a bad thing. Now after reading your previous post it seems like it is a good thing.

The Porn Nerd

Gluten-free shit tastes like shit. Cardboard shit.

Eat a lot of green vegetables and you can eat almost anything, including pasta. It's all about your PH balance when it comes to energy and most Americans have an acid heavy diet. That's why anti-acids are a billion dollar industry.

Get more alkaline (naturally) into your system and your body will regulate itself.

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Penny24Seven

They still do that. Every week there is some new diet trick LOL eat less walk more. No trick to that

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Paul Markham

Not so if you have Celiac disease like I do. And have spoken at length with doctors and specialists in the subject.

Those with Celiac disease have to go on a Gluten Free Diet. It mainly affects children.

Allergies are on the rise. Especially children because of what we feed them when their bodies are still growing.

The problem isn't Gluten, it's GM foods, the way we screw with nature and the amount we eat. Wheat is cheap and can be used to pad out everything, you would think Cornflakes were made of corn, Nachos as well. They're not because wheat is cheaper. It's the amount we eat of things we weren't designed to eat and the way it's been changed by scientists.

The easy rule is to read what's on the packet. Or cook from fresh.

I would bet money here that many saying Gluten Free is crap, are over stuffing themselves with sugar, salt, fat and chemicals they don't have a clue about.

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Ajokki

I think "gluten free diet" is also a fad. In my opinion, cutting off fatty foods like bread, cookies, cakes, pizzas, pasta, and all things that have "gluten" in them is just a simple and healthy eating habit.

beerptrol

It works for those with Celiac disease, and is a fad for the rest!

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wehateporn

And I'm right on most of that, but regardless, Gluten is still bad for you, learn the science one day like I did

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mce

Not even food allergies?

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MiamiBoyz

I only eat things that are out of a sealed can. No problems ever...unless I loose the can opener of course!

More people get e coli from salad that any other contamination source.

So called "fresh food" can be bad because you never know how old it really is or how contaminated it is.

I see people scratch their asses at the Whole Foods food bars all the time and then pick of the tongs to get food.

Those so-called sneeze guards do nothing at all. I have seen fat sweaty people literally drop beads of sweat into the food while picking it out at those same food bars.

I am sure that a lot of people get sick after eating at those places but just do not put the connection together since they think that fresh food is so healthy! Pigshit

dyna mo

Nitwit troll, the thread isnt about celiac disease and I highly doubt you even have celiac disease as it is extremely rare.

And heads up, I'm one of the more/most educated and knowledgeable here when it comes to nutrition, up to and including creating and launching my own nutritional products while living a nutritionally sound lifestyle.

candyflip

They do if you have Celiac disease. Other than that, probably not as much as people think.

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We all know gluten is evil. How we have survived eating it for thousands of years is beyond me.

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If more people eat gluten free there will be a bigger market and prices will go down. I can't really see prices go up no matter what.

Anyways if you don't know if a gluten free diet will help you - you could do as my doctor told me - try it and see - no better test than that.

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According to my specialists, there's a significant rise in Celiac disease.

The problem today isn't just wheat, it's all the other shit food processors and farmers put into the food. From animals that were created to eat grass and natural vegetation, now eating a formula food.

And GM crops.

Eating stuff out of a can, isn't a healthy diet.

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When it comes to nutrition I will take dyna mo's advice, thank you very much. The dude is RIPPED.

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dyna mo

hah, thanks. i do well for my age, especially considering my diabetic complications. but Phil is the ripped mofo here. the guy is shredded and knows the healthy way to get there. thesquealer is prolly the same but i haven't seen any pics of him.

as long as my views on nutrition align with theirs, i know i'm doing it right. and right is very simple- eat balanced meals within your calorie window. it really is as simple as that.

MakeMeGrrrrowl

I have seen pictures and agree - his bod is scrumptious. Obviously doing something right.

mce

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