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Ripshit

getting back to this and out of TWINK rage from some(you know who) homelander!........

Structural damage yes lets talk for a few about the mysterious molten lava pools underneath the worlds trade center on 911 shall we??

Or arent you informed on that one?

Rochard

Well, this is a new one.

However, I would imagine it's rather simple to explain.

Um, lots of concrete fell onto lots of other concrete. Yet still other stuff was on fire. (Note I'm trying I'm trying to dumb this down for you here.) Well, if you burry stuff that's on fire, continue to give it fuel (and oxygen from the subway station below it) sooner or later it's going to rather hot down there. In fact, there was hot spots for weeks after the towers fell.

Even though we've already been told (by some folks with tin hats on) that the fire wasn't hot enough to melt anything ( because these same tin foil hat people were up on the 98th floor with rectal thermometers taking the temperture.....).... I'm guessing it was just "plain hot enough" to melt all of the different types of metal that were down there?

OH, but wait.... It wans't hot enough to melt the metals down there? Why not? I'm guessing there was a vast amount of different materials in these buildings, everything from a-z... and some of it melted into hot pools of molten lava.

Or... maybe there was a volcano under NYC?

Or.... Maybe the aliens put the lava there.

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Rochard

Let's keep these utterly brilliant questions coming... Because I'd love for my fake nick to hit 12k posts before the end of the night.

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Rochard

Or let me ask another question.... Let's talk about how the plane in PA was shot down, because I love this one too!

I'm pretty sure that if orders were given for the plane to have been shot down it would have come over the plane's radio system - and would have been recorded by dozens of people. (I've heard that aviation buffs love to listen in on common messages.) Well, isn't there a recording of this? Did they kill all of them who had recordings of this?

I guess when the plane took off with four missiles and came back with three, it wasn't noticed missing. Or where all of those people in on it too? Or were they killed also?

And if these people were killed.... Who did the killing, and why haven't they come foward?

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Rochard

I still like the question about someone with little flying skill could have hit the Pentagon. I mean, it's a HUGE FUCKING BUIKLDING and pretty hard to miss.

I''ve never flown a plane, but yet in Flight Sim - which I've only played a handful of times - I can pretty much hit any building of any size.

Nine more to go until I hit 12k.

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Phoenix

they are able to gauge the temperatures with a fair amount of accuracy just with the video they have of the day.

thats besides the point..the thing was like your screen in your window....you can poke a bunch of holes in it with a pencil or even punch a whole through it a few times with your hand....melt some of it....it isnt going to fall off...as it is being held up on about 600-1000 vectors....now extend that to 3d and it gets even stronger....then make it out of steel....good steel.

anyway...lets not gloss over the fact that the beams recovered were all in nice little sections....easily toted away...as it was all taken away without any investigation...we shall exclude that.

lets just forget alla bout 9/11 forget the massive riots that broke out when bush supposedly won the first election....forget his families history that stares at us...their long history of allegiance to foreign entities....lets forgive all others that do the same...just turn a blind eye

it is much easier..and you wont get into trouble that way.
dont bother to look at all the facts...dont press the issue when it doesnt add up....dont make a splash...dont stand out..lol

anyway this is all bs....i dont care what people believe anymore....i just think we need to be very careful...as the times they are a changin

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Phoenix

dude..what i like is how top military buildings like the pentagon supposedly only have one camera angle..and its an outdated piece of shit from a 7 eleven or something.

hows that taste?
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or why 22 other videos have been taken away?

just questions you know....or why the light poles were not mangled..but rather they were just lying around close to where they had been anchored into the ground...youd think if a big ass plane hit a light pole the thing would be fucked up for one...and shot about 200 metres down the road


you know instead of lying on the ground besides where they came out...as if some tiny explosion cut the nuts and bolts and it just fell over from gravity

cause the lightpoles were in the only flight path possible if the guy the blame had flown it.


where the titanium engines?
does anyone even really remember the original story from the day?

watch old clips from that day...and then watch the story now.

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Phoenix

some theorise that that plane was chock full of people...and that they had been put into that plane to dispose of them all...and got taken out with a huge bomb to leave no trace.....thats why that is about the only plane wreck that supposedly hit the ground that you cant find bodies or plane wrecakge in...it was all consumed in the air


i dont know about all that....i just know something doesnt add up

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Rochard

Your asking some great good questions - I'll give you that.

Do you really mean to tell me just by looking at video tape footage taking outside of the WTC towers that they can gauge what conditions took place inside? That's kind of funny because I could have sworn the book "debunking 9/11" said in one chapter that the temperture reached an unusually high amount, yet in the next chapter said that temperture was half the amount listed in the other chapter. (I tried to find this book in my collection because i found it rather funny and thought it help our discussions here, but I think I honestly through the book out because I was pissed I spend money on it.)

I've heard this discussion about the WTC towers being like a window screen. The problem is that the screen in my window isn't holding ANY of the weight above it - it's all being held up from the top of the screen door (or window frame). So if you poke a whole in the window screen it doesn't fall, beause it's being supported by the top.

I will admit the Bush "family connections" - which just so happen to involve oil - Are most interesting. And at the same time..... Our entire and only interest in the Middle East is..... about oil.

I think the tin foil hat people should concentrate on that instead of making up silly stories.

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Rochard

When you go to your bank and you see security cameras on the outside of the bank, are they pointed at the building? Of course not - because they are mounted on the building.

Why is it an outdated peice of shit camera like you find in 7/11? Because the public would bitch if the Pentagon turned in a bill for $4mil to update it's security cameras?

Didn't the plane that hit the Pentagon take out a light pole? Or damgae it?

Were the light poles in the direct flight path of the plane? I've honestly never looked at a map so I would know. But even if they were light poles are only twenty feet high or so, and I'm guessing the airplane was higher than twenty feet when it passed, um, OVER the lightpole?

And.... I have no idea what this mean....

"you know instead of lying on the ground besides where they came out...as if some tiny explosion cut the nuts and bolts and it just fell over from gravity"

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Phoenix

9/11 did happen right after the taliban turned down the project to build a huge oil pipe across afganhistan...you want to guess who was involved in those companies? take a big guess...think you can figure it out?..im sure no conflict of interest was made there.

you want to look at gonzalez? the same judge who let the Bush family off of crimes that the purposely defrauded banks to the tunes of billions in the 80's

hell man..cowboys were the original gangsters....and texans been cowboys their whole existence

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Rochard

So your saying that the plane(s) were full of witnesses? That doesn't fly at all really. Most of these people were average citizens with jobs much less entertaining than ours. And if they knew anything about what was about to happen.... I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be getting into an airplane.

There seems to be a lot of discussion about the plane cash in PA and lack of physical plane parts. We've all seen plane crashes with lots of plane parts and the like laying around. Well, most plane crashes have someone physically controling the plane and trying their damnest to save the plane. The plane in PA went straight down into the ground from an original height of tens of thousands of feet. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that a plane that nose dives from thirty thousand feet is going to destroy itself. (Don't quote me on the height of the plane.)

Are there things that don't add up. You bet your ass there are.

If ten people witness a car accident with four cars in it, they'll all walk away with different ideas of what they say. That's human nature. In this event there was a number of different "incidents" (WTC, PA, and Washington DC) and we have really no information from inside the planes or the buildings and cannot say for sure what really happened.

But if our government is at fault.... It would have taken a lot of people to pull this off. And for everyone one person who may have been involved there must be yet more people who saw something.

For example, if the plane over PA was shot down.... didn't anyone notice the missile missing? Or was the ground crew involved in it? How many people would have noticed the missile missing? Why haven't they come forward?

There is discussion about explosives being placed in the WTC towers? They didn't just stroll up there and put them behind a desk; This would have taken some effort and someone would have seen something. And wouldn't one of them come foward after they figured out they killed three thousand people?

And if the government was behind it, who flew the airplanes? Who trained them? And why haven't they come foward? (Don't tell me it was flown by remote control; I'm pretty sure someone would have noticed that before they took off.)

And then.... If it was a missile that hit the Pentagon.... Someone somewhere would have had to have pushed a button and perhaps even fueled a rocket up, not to mention someone somwhere would have seen this missile take off? It must have been a somewhat large missile, and it's not like we hand these out to school kids. And if it was a missile, why didn't anyone see this on radar?

Why hasn't someone come foward yet?

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Rochard

Interesting point - and one I've never heard.

I've already mentioned here in this thread that the Bush family = oil, so you have no arugment there. But to say that the Bush family killed thousands of Americans in a very public way so that they can invade a country..... That's a tall one.

Now, if you told me they shot down a US warplane to create a war I could see that.

But again, why hasn't anyone come foward? Or are they all connected to oil?

While the tin hat people are busy trying to convince me, they totally miss other things. In the 1980s Russia wanted to create a pipeline from Russia into Europe to flood Europe with cheap natural gas. If you think about it, having 60% of Europe depandant on natural gas from mother Russia at the height of the cold sounds like the dumbest thing since.... you catch my drift. Reagan was totally against this and did everything to shut it down, but failed. Yet where were the tin hat people when the pipeline was built - using tech information ironically supplied by the US - and both pumping stations suddenly exploded?

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wyldworx

what's got 100 million arms and 100 million legs and walks willingly off the edge of a cliff?

why, America of course.

Rochard

Sort of like the blind leading the blind? Not so much.

I've read both sides of the issue, and spent hours watching the videos on Al Gore's Internet telling me that our goverment was behind 9/11.

And yet no one has come foward, to be a hero and multi-millionaire over night, saying "I know the truth about 9/11".

If the idiots with the tin foil hats said "Bush hired sixteen Muslims and they did it"..... Instead of telling me that missiles hit the Pentagon and that skyscrapers don't fall when rammed by large planes....... At least I can see this.

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Minte

That can be said for every nation that's ever been in war.

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pocketkangaroo

I'm not talking about the 9/11 stuff. I stopped after the Jesus part. While I'm an atheist, 90% of the crap in the first part was factually incorrect. Not debateable but just completely wrong.

My point being, if someone is going to makeup stuff to try and prove a point in one part of the video, why wouldn't they do it throughout the rest? They just have no credibility.

Ripshit

Fact #10 On the morning of 911 Mr. Dick Cheney was in charge of all Norad order from the command bunker under the White House.
Out of all 22 possible war game exercises being conducted with the only six fighter pilots defending our airspace that morning,planes being flown into buildings was the scenario.

pocketkangaroo

Of course the designer would say that, he built it and may have been liable to lawsuits. I also don't know how you could possibly test out scenarios like this and prove that it would be structurally sound to handle it, this is an unheard of occurence. And did the planes technically knock the buildings down, or was it the fact the burning jet feul compromised the building and made it fall.

In any case, the majority of structual engineers have agreed that the plane could knock the building down. I'll stick with their opinions.

And there are thousands of survivors who didn't hear a thing before the plane hit. Not to mention no calls to 911 after those pre-plane explosions. I'll take the opinion of thousands of people over several who probably got confused in the chaos.

I don't know how you can claim fact on something with no proof. Sure it can be your theory, but a few people saying they heard explosions is really not proof of anything. Find the explosives, find the people who put them there. It's the busiest building in New York, someone had to have spotted someone putting exploses on to the exposed steel (not an easy task).

You don't think that structural damage or the massive fires could have played a role in this? There was substantial damage to the building, and when that happens buildings fall. Shit, a fucking bridge just fell out of nothing the other day. And how come none of the thousands of firefighters and aid workers in the area didn't see any of this demolition take place?

The only fact in the video is that he liked about a lot of shit. If you lie about some stuff in the video, why would you believe any of it?

stickyfingerz

Wow you are stupid..... He has a banner that was the same as mine WAS. Why? Cause we both partook in a sig donation for Aftershockmedia to get a special wheel chair for his wedding. I ran mine for about 40 days. He started later. You may as well stop right here, cause you are as brainless as they come. I dont give a fuck what people think of me, and I dont hide behind a fake nick.

Ripshit

Obviously you dont care what people think of you.
But I care what I think of you.

pocketkangaroo

Yo! Do you own that linkboy site in your sig?

And let me know if you need any beta testers for your new program.

escorpio

If George Bush could mastermind 9/11 why can't he shut Ripshit and Phoenix the fuck up? Seems like killing a couple guys that know The Truth would be a simple task.

Ripshit

Look escorpio seems like you have death threat fantasies go play paintball then.

stickyfingerz

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escorpio

You are a very brave man for telling The Truth about who's really behind 9/11. Doesn't it worry you that these people that killed thousands to further their cause may come after you for exposing them?

pocketkangaroo

Interested in a few but when I enter in a featured listing, it takes me to the homepage and pops up a message about blocking spam submissions.

stickyfingerz

Just email me the domains you want added + description for each if you are having problems. Do a recip to thatsfuckinhot.com instead of linksboy and Ill put you as featured.

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Rochard

Out of everything I've read from both sides of the discussion, I've never heard this. And even if all of it is true, it has nothing to do with 9/11.

I'm guessing NORAD does such exercises on a regular basis, a few times a month.

Also, I believe Cheney was in the White House when the attacks started, and was moved into a bunker there.

Not sure if you know this, but the White House is the best connected building in the world. The President, The Vice President, The Joint Chiefs of Staff, and everyone in the military who work in the White House can be directly connected to any military in the unit world. All they need to do is pick up the phone and ask. Air Force One also works in a similar fashion. A more likely explaination is that Cheney was in the White House when the attacks happened, moved to a bunker, and was instantly in command of NORAD and every other military unit involved. This was while the President was trying to break free of school children.

Because our nation was under attack, the President was hidden. I believe (don't quote me here) but he was moved into Air Force one, and then quickly set down at an US Air Force base in Florida, where he hunkered down in a bunker. From there both himself and the VP took command of the situation.

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Rochard

Exactly what he said.

If explosions before the plane crashed is what took the building down, why didn't the building come down before the planes hit? When did these explosions take place? Before the planes hit or as they buildings were coming down, because I've heard both stories.

The explosions "before" the planes hit can be quickly explained away by the time line. I believe these explosions took place in the basement. The truth about them is they really took place the moment the planes hit, which sent a number of elevators to came crashing down to the lobby in a huge fireball. It's just a simple matter of them being off by sixty seconds or so.

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Ripshit

The explosions were many in form thoughout the towers main frame all the way up.The planes were a hugr public divertion.As far as I know right before the planes hit,it was a demolition that was timed perfectly with the planes hitting the towers!



Yes it must have been this way.


Fact #11 The United states has never before been attacked within its borders by an outside force.
The government would like you to believe this to be true.

Rochard

Then why didn't the towers come down when both the planes hit the towers and the explosives went off? Why did they come down three hours later?

Of course this isn't true. Japan attacked and occupied a number of islands off of Alaska, and subs from Japan attemped to launch bombs under large balloons into the coast of Orgeon.

Of course this doesn't include Peal Harbor. (Did you know that when Pearl Harbor was attacked it was a little known US terrority. Hawaii didn't become a US state until 1959.)

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Ripshit

Whatch this video it may take you back to the week of.Remember how much craziness there was,and try to peice it together(the explosions).https://youtube.com/watch?v=yIgoX...elated&search=

TheDoc

Of course it was an inside job, if it had been terrorists alone this would be cut and dry. Like ALL others. Only our gov could have fucked up and did such a sloppy job.

The facts, from firemen, police, building7, the workers in the building days before, the recorded extra explosions, the fact the terrorists are still alive, and a mixture of other major bone ups all point to a sloppy inside job pulled off by a group of amateurs with bad focus and planning. Yup, that sounds exactly like the Bush Administration.

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Ripshit

check out the old lady at the very end of this video she rocks
"I tell ya what any person that believes this was something that wasnt set up by our own government is an idiot"!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yIgoX...elated&search=

Minte

And in 18 months President Bush will leave office, they will build a presidential library. He will have full security and all the benefits of every Ex-president.
Twenty+ years from now history will judge his presidency. Odds are it won't be harsh. If you were around during Nixon's administration you'll understand.

And in that 20 year period people will remember that a despot Iraqi dictator started the whole event by invading his neighbor with his sights set on Saudi Arabia and control of all the oil in the middle east. History will also remember who rid the world of that dictator.

So who is the idiot?

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Dagwolf

I haven't listened to all the evidence, but I'm leaning away from the "Bush is an evil genius" theory and more toward the "Bush is an evil retard" hypothesis.

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pocketkangaroo

Yes it has, and I'm not talking 9/11.

Phoenix

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Rochard

What workers in the building the days before 9/11? How many "workers" do you think the WTC had? Dozens? Hundreds? Thousands? At any time of the night or day there are hundreds of "workes" fixing things, cleaning windows, and what not. Why didn't anyone see anything?

The terrorists are still alive? Really? Do some research on this and you'll discover all of these stories were quietly retracted a few months later.

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Rochard

It's very unfair to judge a sitting President, and still unfair to judge him after he left office. I'm not a supporter of Bush; I can't wait to see him removed out of office. Thank God for term limits.

There has been a number of times when a US President has left office with low popularity, only thirty years later to be hailed as a hero. Time changes our thoughts. Wasn't Truman considered a horrible president at the time but is now considered one of the best Presidents of all time? And wasn't JFK hailed as a "great leader" in our day, but now history has shown us exactly how reckless he was?

Everyone seems to have forgotten the original reason we into Iraq. Iraq invaded another country and raped it and then set fire to it's oil wells as they got their asses kicked back into Iraq.

I really wonder how history will judge both Bushes thirty years from now.

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Rochard

This sounds about dead on!

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bronco67

You have no option for people who think the conspiracy theorists are fucking assholes.

Judging by the poll results, there's a lot of you on this board.

bronco67

My father in law is a doctor, and has been to many weird seminars when away at conventions. We were once on the subject of plane crashes, and he talked about a speech on plane crashes and survivability depending on speed and angle of crash, etc. He was saying that in the worst case, a plane and its passengers can be completely obliterated, where there is almost nothing left.

This doesn't prove or disprove anything, but the nutjobs all say that the PA plane crash site has to be a certain way, and it doesn't. They just twist shit around to fit their fruitcake ideas.

Ripshit

So your saying what here that Bush will be remember as a hero?
It seems tho me that Saddam hussein had nothing to do with 911 but somehow he was blamed for it by anyone walking down the street here in the U.S.(alot of people)actually think he had something to do with 911.

If your not speaking of him but rather Mr.Bin Laden then great but he has not been confirmed dead nor even seen since 911(eccept for various tapes that pop up on the news from time to time.

Fact #12 In the next 18 months a democrat will take office all will be forgotten troops pulled out of the now liberated middle east (so called)and maybe the president will even play the sax and have sex in hotels.

Fact #13 Gulf War 1 was a waste of money and lives and did nothing!
Saddam Husseins execution could have happened 17 years ago as easy as it did a few months back.

Fact #14 Prior to 911 the United States had already bombed quite a few major countries excluding portions of the middle east and........






















its own!

Minte

I'm saying reread my post and then Rockhard's post. Then study some history,the answer will become obvious to you.

And also,pay attention to my current signature.

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Ripshit

you have obviously never heard od an inside job!
I dare anyone out here to doubt the term INSIDE JOB.
Can you for real tell me the term never can be used?
Is it the same as CONSPIRACY?
Of course not!
The difference in inside job and conspiracy is that an inside job exists and a conspiracy is just hearsay and cannot be proven.

In answering your question I would have to guess yes if it was a conspiracy alot of janitors who worked there would be popping up with stories of men climbing elevator shafts at 3A.M. in jump suits and ropes with bags.
But we have heard nothing of this so I tend to believe it was an inside job and those that saw anything if any were paid off quit nice.

Hows about a legal citezenship for you and your illegal family, and $100,000 sound to you?

You have to understand that most of the workers in these buildings back then were working illegaly on Visas and something like this could have been arranged.

Ripshit

Oh believe me I understand what your saying but do you understand what Im saying here?

Fact # 15 The president of the United States since JFK has been nothing more than a lousy frontman of a sucky band that cant sing!

Democrat or Republican.................