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Old 03-04-2008, 01:42 PM   #1
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Super Cleanse Diet ?'s and Help!

I started the master cleanse diet yesterday.

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Beautycar..._cleanser.html

not to loose weight, mainly to clean my system out and live more healthy.

I'm supposed to go ten days with no food, just drinking water with Cheyenne pepper, fresh squeezed lemons and maple syrup. and a couple hot peppermint teas a day.

I'm on my second day and freaking going crazy! Has anyone done this before and if so please tell me the hunger pains get better?

It's now a personal quest to reach the ten days! 1.5 days down
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I started the master cleanse diet yesterday.

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Beautycar..._cleanser.html

not to loose weight, mainly to clean my system out and live more healthy.

I'm supposed to go ten days with no food, just drinking water with Cheyenne pepper, fresh squeezed lemons and maple syrup. and a couple hot peppermint teas a day.

I'm on my second day and freaking going crazy! Has anyone done this before and if so please tell me the hunger pains get better?

It's now a personal quest to reach the ten days! 1.5 days down
By day four it gets much better. Dont do the salt water cleanse its fucking gross.
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Hello Sir *waves*

I haven't done the master cleanse, but I know a couple people who have. They both told me that the hunger did subside and that the jacked up water really will tame the hunger pangs.

Mainly though, I just wanted to wish you luck on your personal quest to healthier living.
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I used to do it every year...but its been several years since I was able to follow the whole 10 days (hard when you are the mom and wife of 3 big ass serious meat and potato guys)

The hunger subsides after day three or four. I had boundless energy like being on a caffiene high for the first few days.

Good luck. Try not to focus on the fact that you arent eating...focus on how healthy you will feel after giving your body a break and cleanse from all the garbage you put into it.
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By day four it gets much better. Dont do the salt water cleanse its fucking gross.
No shit! found that out this morning, i'll stick to the peppermint tea instead!
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Hey Jimmy - I commend you for doing this, but I really don't agree with these sorts of things. There is a reason you eat certain things and to cut them out of your diet can be dangerous. I almost lost a job due to a 'cleanse'. Your body needs carbohydrates to complete synapses in your brain. To deprive yourself of it will cause you to feel 'dumb' or unfocused. This is exactly what happened to me which is why I went on a quest to find out why I was feeling the way I was feeling. Hope you did your research and know what you're doing. There are always two sides to everything... Some people can do them and be fine, some just can't. Please be careful.

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Hello Sir *waves*

I haven't done the master cleanse, but I know a couple people who have. They both told me that the hunger did subside and that the jacked up water really will tame the hunger pangs.

Mainly though, I just wanted to wish you luck on your personal quest to healthier living.
Thanks LauraLee, i hope they really do go away.. Thanks for the lucky wishes, see you soon
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Hey Jimmy - I commend you for doing this, but I really don't agree with these sorts of things. There is a reason you eat certain things and to cut them out of your diet can be dangerous. I almost lost a job due to a 'cleanse'. Your body needs carbohydrates to complete synapses in your brain. To deprive yourself of it will cause you to feel 'dumb' or unfocused. This is exactly what happened to me which is why I went on a quest to find out why I was feeling the way I was feeling. Hope you did your research and know what you're doing. There are always two sides to everything... Some people can do them and be fine, some just can't. Please be careful.

Good luck - hope it works for you.
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Thanks Holli,
I've done alot of reaserach, talked to people who have completed it. I think i'm going to be ok with this, i've done smaller versions of this in the past, So far 2 days in I feel fine, just hungry..energy levels and brain functionality all systems go

Thanks!
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You're fucking retarded. You're starving your body of nutrition. Think about that.
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For once, I think I'm going to have to agree with WarChild. What the fuck are you thinking?

Can't stop eating doughnuts, so you just figure cut out food altogether?

Eat some fucking carrot sticks!
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The hunger will subside and you'll realize how badly you want to eat just for the heck of it...
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Burroughs, S. (1976).

Now I'm *really* laughing at you.. The guy who dreamt this stuff up was higher than I am, and probably looked like this:

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The Nail and Screw Diet

Eating handfuls of nails, screws, metal washers is a great way of scraping out the insides of your intestines, and hardening your stomach lining.

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You're fucking retarded. You're starving your body of nutrition. Think about that.
umm Retarded, You just go ahead and eat your burgers and french fries everyday Fatso.
there is enough nutrients in the lemon and the maple syrup to keep you going. and thats also the point, to flush your system out.
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For once, I think I'm going to have to agree with WarChild. What the fuck are you thinking?

Can't stop eating doughnuts, so you just figure cut out food altogether?

Eat some fucking carrot sticks!
Has nothing to do with loosing weight. i don;t have an issue with my weight. it's a detox cleanse for your over all well being
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i want to do one too.... blessedherbs.com. Anyone has tried that one?
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Wouldn't eating a bunch of raw vegetables for a few weeks do the same thing, and be nutritious? Makes more sense to me than to believe some what some random dude thought up in 1976.
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umm Retarded, You just go ahead and eat your burgers and french fries everyday Fatso.
there is enough nutrients in the lemon and the maple syrup to keep you going. and thats also the point, to flush your system out.
See now you're making assumptions, but you don't know. That's the difference between you and me. I KNOW for a fact there isn't enough nutrients in lemon and maple syrup to keep your body healthy. I know this because I am very on top of my diet. I am very much on top of my diet because I train up to 4 hours a day 6 days a week.

See, not only do I know more about taking care of the body than you, I'm probably in much better shape than you, I can probably run circles around you too.

So while I'm out running my 12km, I'll be laughing about you drinking cayan pepper, lemon juice and syrup and thinking you're making yourself more healthy.
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Absolutely insane idea, horridly unhealthy and will cause more damage than good in the long term.
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See now you're making assumptions, but you don't know. That's the difference between you and me. I KNOW for a fact there isn't enough nutrients in lemon and maple syrup to keep your body healthy. I know this because I am very on top of my diet. I am very much on top of my diet because I train up to 4 hours a day 6 days a week.

See, not only do I know more about taking care of the body than you, I'm probably in much better shape than you, I can probably run circles around you too.

So while I'm out running my 12km, I'll be laughing about you drinking cayan pepper, lemon juice and syrup and thinking you're making yourself more healthy.
Hmm i really believe you train 4 hours a day.
There will be no damage done to my body, i'm healthy and in shape. the only cirlcles you'll be running is your fingers around the chocolate donut with sprinkles your holding in your had
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What up JRock?

I did that exact master cleanse two months ago. The first two days are hard, but then it gets easier, I lost 14 lbs in one week, believe it or not, but you have no energy to do anything, work out, or anything else.

I need to do it again, I put on all the weight already.
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What up JRock?

I did that exact master cleanse two months ago. The first two days are hard, but then it gets easier, I lost 14 lbs in one week, believe it or not, but you have no energy to do anything, work out, or anything else.

I need to do it again, I put on all the weight already.
so far the energy level is all good, don't plan on putting thew weight back on!
i'm guessing i'm only going to do it for 7 days, i was gunning for ten
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"Jimmy Rock" I know WarChild personally. I've met him, I've seen his body. He works out 4 hours a day. He KNOWS what he is talking about.

So do I. And this is stupid. And you're stupid for not seeing it is just insane and bad for you.

Carry on.
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Hmm i really believe you train 4 hours a day.
There will be no damage done to my body, i'm healthy and in shape. the only cirlcles you'll be running is your fingers around the chocolate donut with sprinkles your holding in your had
Why would I lie? Come up to Vancouver, come on just a couple day's worth of training. You'll understand then.

Maybe retarded was a bit too harsh, it just makes me angry when I see people fall for this ridiculous stuff. Let's put completely aside for second vitamin and mineral requirements, which by the way is nowhere near met by this insane "cleanse" and focus only on macro nutrients.

You realize your body requires carbohydrates, fats and proteins on a daily basis, right?

Do you really, really, really think it's a good to starve your body of those and supply only simple carbohydrates? No, it's silly. No real nutritionalist would tell you otherwise. There's much better ways to eat as a lifestyle for your health and weight than this craziness.

Listen to yourselves.. "After a few days you can surpress the hunger pains". Just think about that, just for a second. Your body is not only talking to you, it's fucking screaming. Listen to it.
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Warchild (and others) are right, the very idea of that starvation regimen is totally ridiculous. You are going to lose muscle and weaken your immune system. If you want to feel better you should eat a healthy, balanced diet and exercise, specifically weightlifting and some cardio.
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"Jimmy Rock" I know WarChild personally. I've met him, I've seen his body. He works out 4 hours a day. He KNOWS what he is talking about.

So do I. And this is stupid. And you're stupid for not seeing it is just insane and bad for you.

Carry on.
Thanks for calling me stupid. the funny part is you bragging about seeing WarChild's body
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Thanks for calling me stupid. the funny part is you bragging about seeing WarChild's body
If you have no valid points, don't bother replying. You're wrong and it makes you look like a fool to try to poke some kind of "gay joke" when we're telling you this is a dumb move.

Carry on, fool.
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the lemonaid diet is a little hard. is this the first time that you have tried to fast
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not going to be close to this thread for a short time. if you have a hard time with the mastercleanse, as it can be hard. try to taper off of it into a juice fast for the rest of the time for your first real try. sometimes you really need to be able to gear up for a fast and let your body get used to something like that. check out http://www.juicefasting.org/ and see what you think.

but keep going on it at least today and see how it feels.

what is your regular diet like?
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If you have no valid points, don't bother replying. You're wrong and it makes you look like a fool to try to poke some kind of "gay joke" when we're telling you this is a dumb move.

Carry on, fool.
The Valid point is it's good to test your body both physically and mentally, if you can't understand that then

Carry on Fool, checking out WarChilds body
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not going to be close to this thread for a short time. if you have a hard time with the mastercleanse, as it can be hard. try to taper off of it into a juice fast for the rest of the time for your first real try. sometimes you really need to be able to gear up for a fast and let your body get used to something like that. check out http://www.juicefasting.org/ and see what you think.

but keep going on it at least today and see how it feels.

what is your regular diet like?
Thanks! i've fasted for a few days at a time beofre but never went for ten days, the juice diet looks interesting, too late to start that sinxce i'm already go for the water lemon cleanse..

but thanks for the info
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"Jimmy Rock" I know WarChild personally. I've met him, I've seen his body. He works out 4 hours a day. He KNOWS what he is talking about.

So do I. And this is stupid. And you're stupid for not seeing it is just insane and bad for you.

Carry on.
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so far the energy level is all good, don't plan on putting thew weight back on!
i'm guessing i'm only going to do it for 7 days, i was gunning for ten
Dude, as soon as you put some food in your stomach your body will turn it into fat because it does not know when you will have your next meal and therefor will store as much of it for later as possible. Eating less food more often is a better way to loose weight. I personally guarantee this is not a good weight loss strategy and that you will in fact put all the weight back on and possibly more if you just go back to what you were doing before.
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Why would I lie? Come up to Vancouver, come on just a couple day's worth of training. You'll understand then.

Maybe retarded was a bit too harsh, it just makes me angry when I see people fall for this ridiculous stuff. Let's put completely aside for second vitamin and mineral requirements, which by the way is nowhere near met by this insane "cleanse" and focus only on macro nutrients.

You realize your body requires carbohydrates, fats and proteins on a daily basis, right?

Do you really, really, really think it's a good to starve your body of those and supply only simple carbohydrates? No, it's silly. No real nutritionalist would tell you otherwise. There's much better ways to eat as a lifestyle for your health and weight than this craziness.

Listen to yourselves.. "After a few days you can surpress the hunger pains". Just think about that, just for a second. Your body is not only talking to you, it's fucking screaming. Listen to it.
You kind of have to just give up on a lot of people. To many it's a quasi-religious thing. You can't tell them there's no such thing as a detox diet. No matter how much evidence you provide them they'll never believe it. There are too many testimonials and people doing it... groupthink.. and it fits too neatly into our concept of self punishment for health and our fear of toxins in the modern environ. If people use it to lose weight I don't really care. It does that (if done properly and more thna a couple of days).
I've played around with my body weight and shape while researching diets and exercise regimes.. I've specifically tried to see how fast I can put on 22lbs and how fast I can take it off (about 30 days each way).. I'm not adverse to people crash dieting even though it's harmful. I think it's a good thing that people can become aware of the fact it's easy to lose weight and not be dragged down by other pessimistic fatties and think about what they're putting in their bodies.
But taking a short break from their shitty lifestyle's to "detox" for a week and then go right back to it "cleansed" is total bs and counter productive. 100% of people are better off just living a healthier lifestyle and eating less sugar/fat and more vegetables... but thats long ongoing.. blander.. and less of a mental statement than 7 days of starvation. In our quick fix society, who the hell wants to just eat healthy for the next 30 years when they can go on a 7 day placebo every 6 months?

Let em have it. What the hell do you care... It's darwinism as far as i'm concerned.


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Defeceit diets will cause you to store fat. Fact.

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Some of you fucks kill me... it will not kill your body to take 10 days out of your whole fucking life to cleanse and fast.

This is not a diet..its a cleanse. The maple syrup has nutrients in it..You are not hurting your body unless you are very unhealthy to begin with.

You should end the cleanse by starting to eat light raw foods such as veggies and fruits, then work up to other things over a couple of days. You will not be craving all the junk you may have been eating before.. you actually crave better foods.
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Some of you fucks kill me... it will not kill your body to take 10 days out of your whole fucking life to cleanse and fast.

This is not a diet..its a cleanse. The maple syrup has nutrients in it..You are not hurting your body unless you are very unhealthy to begin with.

You should end the cleanse by starting to eat light raw foods such as veggies and fruits, then work up to other things over a couple of days. You will not be craving all the junk you may have been eating before.. you actually crave better foods.
By the same logic it won't kill you to take 10 days out of your life to go on a crack cocaine bender. Therefor it must be healthy and cleansing?

Just what the hell are you cleansing? It's just craziness.

Sorry, but maple syrup does not contain the protein, fat, vitamins or minerals your body requires on a daily basis. You are going to be deprived of some of these and your body is going to need to burn stores of fat and protein for survival. That means you are for sure going to lose muscle mass.

All in the name of some "cleanse". Amazing people, really.

Anyway I'm done. Fast, cleanse, do whatever you want. Enjoy your self doing it.
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Warchild, your comparison of a crack cocaine binge and a cleanse are like comparing apples and beef jerky.

It helps flush the body from all the shit (toxins)that is put in our foods now a days.

If you are an athlete that works out all the time and eats pretty healthy..there is not a whole lot of reason to do it.

To someone who has been eating like shit (Ive met some of you and I know that GFY has a major weight problem) but is otherwise healthy..its good for you in moderation.
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Warchild, your comparison of a crack cocaine binge and a cleanse are like comparing apples and beef jerky.

It helps flush the body from all the shit (toxins)that is put in our foods now a days.

If you are an athlete that works out all the time and eats pretty healthy..there is not a whole lot of reason to do it.

To someone who has been eating like shit (Ive met some of you and I know that GFY has a major weight problem) but is otherwise healthy..its good for you in moderation.
Look, if you want to claim that fasting is good for you on a spiritual or emotional level, I can't argue with you.

To claim that these "cleansing" diets, which are supported by no scientific evidence what so ever actually are beneficial to your health is just crazy.
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I was recommended to do this by an "Ex Chippendale" ... I thought it was shit. Drinking salt water in the morning fucks you up big time. My arse felt like a water fountain on NOS. Yeah you can loose weight - body water - start eating carbs again afterwards and you'll put it straight back on.

If you wanna be healthy eat 6 meals a day.
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Dude, as soon as you put some food in your stomach your body will turn it into fat because it does not know when you will have your next meal and therefor will store as much of it for later as possible. Eating less food more often is a better way to loose weight. I personally guarantee this is not a good weight loss strategy and that you will in fact put all the weight back on and possibly more if you just go back to what you were doing before.
what I?m doing is not to loose weight, it is a personal challenge for myself physically, mentally and spiritually, if i drop a couple pounds in the meantime all the better.
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Who is (US) i was talking to one person in particular.
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Look, if you want to claim that fasting is good for you on a spiritual or emotional level, I can't argue with you.

To claim that these "cleansing" diets, which are supported by no scientific evidence what so ever actually are beneficial to your health is just crazy.
That's my point I was not doing this to loose weight. it's just called the master cleanse. This is a personal challenge
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That's my point I was not doing this to loose weight. it's just called the master cleanse. This is a personal challenge
Try getting down to single digit bodyfat with your abs showing after the age of thirty-five, that's a personal challenge that is worth doing! You're just going to be sitting around starving yourself and drinking a concoction while fooling yourself into thinking that you are doing something positive.... Anyway, that's my last comment, this is GFY after all, you gotta expect some smartass remarks.

If you want something healthy that you can drink, here is my recipe for a banana blueberry smoothie:

Blend:
1 cup of fat free milk
1/4 cup of crushed ice
1/2 a fozen banana cut up into slices
1 large handful of fresh or frozen blueberries
1 scoop of vanilla protein powder.

Its delicious on a hot day!

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Try getting down to single digit bodyfat with your abs showing after the age of thirty-five, that's a personal challenge that is worth doing! You're just going to be sitting around starving yourself and drinking a concoction while fooling yourself into thinking that you are doing something positive....

If you want something healthy that you can drink, here is my recipe for a banana blueberry smoothie:

Blend:
1 cup of fat free milk
1/4 cup of crushed ice
1/2 a fozen banana cut up into slices
1 large handful of fresh or frozen blueberries
1 scoop of vanilla protein powder.

Its delicious on a hot day!

Thanks Jim, thats pretty much my breakfast and after workout drink daily. homemade shakes are great for you yes.
This is all about mind control for me now, it's good to challenge your mind and body from time to time.
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Careful going 10 days on your first time. I have heard many say that you should really get your body adjusted to this sort of thing by doing 2 days at first, then 4, then 8 or whatever to work into it. I dont know shit but just passing on what i heard from multiple people ;-)
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never done it personally, know a guy who went nearly 30 days without food. your stomach basically shuts down completely after a couple of days. if you start feeling hungry again after that point then should likely begin ingesting nutrients again. there are right and wrong ways to fast.

the guys is right in saying theres really no evidence that fasting increases toxin removal but also 7-10 days without food isnt gonna harm you though. the salt water just doesnt sound like a great idea though.

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