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Old 08-13-2008, 07:34 PM   #1
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aggravated assault while in work uniform

Long story short I got hit in the head with a golf club by a guy in a whirlpool uniform who was OFF duty it was like 5:45 area..

I realize that suing just a person on aggravated assault is a losing cause basically no matter what since it can only cover expenses which are just stitches and a nasty headache...

BUT anybody have some info on if the guy was clearly in a big businesses uniform? right now I'm just glad the bleeding stopped and I hate lawyers so should I even think about talking to one once I get the police report? This happened more than an hour from home so I don't want to have to go back and forth if I don't have to.
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:39 PM   #2
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He purposesly hit you on the head with a golf club? Was he trying to jack your wallet or something? Call the cops and file a report - take two tylenol and call them in the morning
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how the fuck do you get hit in the head with a golf club?
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Long story short I got hit in the head with a golf club by a guy in a whirlpool uniform who was OFF duty it was like 5:45 area..

I realize that suing just a person on aggravated assault is a losing cause basically no matter what since it can only cover expenses which are just stitches and a nasty headache...

BUT anybody have some info on if the guy was clearly in a big businesses uniform? right now I'm just glad the bleeding stopped and I hate lawyers so should I even think about talking to one once I get the police report? This happened more than an hour from home so I don't want to have to go back and forth if I don't have to.
I think you should at least have a consultation with an attorney and hopefully he'll be up front with you about your chances of winning vs. a realistic sum that you may be awarded. Also, make sure you tell him you're becoming agoraphobic and are terrified that there's a Tiger Woods just lurking around the corner with a nine iron. Emotional damages, baby!
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Did he do it with ill intent? Did you go to the doctor afterwards? Was there any actual damage?

I think going after the company he works for when he clearly was not working for them is pretty lame though and I don't think you will get too far with that.
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I think there is some missing info here...
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Take pictures!!! Lots of pictures, video, etc. that really highlight the blood,swelling, bruising, etc.

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Old 08-13-2008, 09:23 PM   #9
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Did he do it with ill intent? Did you go to the doctor afterwards? Was there any actual damage?

I think going after the company he works for when he clearly was not working for them is pretty lame though and I don't think you will get too far with that.
Is there a way to swing a golf club at a persons head without ill intent? I went down to the ground and lost quite a bit of blood. The guy took off and cops were called but I got his plate number. I had gotten off a freeway to inspect if there were damages to my car when the guy came out of nowhere. It all started in a freeway area where it narrows to 1 lane with a ton of those barrels. The guy cut me off and ran me into a bunch of barrels because he not only cut me off too close but slammed on his brakes. Since I hit barrels anyway I passed the fucker and slowed down to the speed limit. He then crossed the barrels into the construction area just to cross back in and slam on his brakes. Which I once again simply went around. this happened again and I was trying to get off the next exit when the guy blocked the exit parking diagonal which once he saw me start to get out he took off. I pulled up out of the way of traffic and got out to look at my car for damages when the guy comes up with a driver in his hand. I said the usual things like what are you doing with the golf club? if you want to fight drop the club and fight like a man. thats when he hit me with the club and ran off.

I know I would have been able to kick the guys ass if he didn't have the club. Once I got hit by it though it was straight above my ear and I went dizzy and couldn't do a thing. my sun glasses ended up the other side of my car.

I have the name and number of 2 guys who saw it. They both said I wasn't doing anything that appeared even close to threatening.

I can understand road rage leading to fist fights but WTF? Getting hit by a GOLF CLUB? I was in a good area not far outside of South Bend with nothing but white people anywhere around.

My wifes a nurse and I've passed all possible tests but over 7 hours later I'm still bleeding. Normally I would take out the sewing kit and stitch myself but I can't reach this area. I've stitched myself up a dozen times for various things so as long as you REMOVE them properly it is safe to stitch yourself but it just hurts like hell but i'm tough. She won't stitch me so i'll probably make a trip to the ER for stitches sometime tonight.

i'll get a copy of the police report tomorrow and see how I feel. Personal lawsuits like this can only cover expenses but the lawyer takes a % so like I said those are ALWAYS a losing cause. After I get the Police report I think ill call the guys work and inform them he was wearing their shirt and fax the police report likely get the guy fired. Hopefully he'll get hit with the full felony and not plead down. Guys like this need some serious shit to come down on them. Some old friends of mine used to get into fist fights purely from being bored. I understand fist fights, they can actually be quite fun but to use a golf club is just crazy.
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Is there a way to swing a golf club at a persons head without ill intent? I went down to the ground and lost quite a bit of blood. The guy took off and cops were called but I got his plate number. I had gotten off a freeway to inspect if there were damages to my car when the guy came out of nowhere. It all started in a freeway area where it narrows to 1 lane with a ton of those barrels. The guy cut me off and ran me into a bunch of barrels because he not only cut me off too close but slammed on his brakes. Since I hit barrels anyway I passed the fucker and slowed down to the speed limit. He then crossed the barrels into the construction area just to cross back in and slam on his brakes. Which I once again simply went around. this happened again and I was trying to get off the next exit when the guy blocked the exit parking diagonal which once he saw me start to get out he took off. I pulled up out of the way of traffic and got out to look at my car for damages when the guy comes up with a driver in his hand. I said the usual things like what are you doing with the golf club? if you want to fight drop the club and fight like a man. thats when he hit me with the club and ran off.

I know I would have been able to kick the guys ass if he didn't have the club. Once I got hit by it though it was straight above my ear and I went dizzy and couldn't do a thing. my sun glasses ended up the other side of my car.

I have the name and number of 2 guys who saw it. They both said I wasn't doing anything that appeared even close to threatening.

I can understand road rage leading to fist fights but WTF? Getting hit by a GOLF CLUB? I was in a good area not far outside of South Bend with nothing but white people anywhere around.

My wifes a nurse and I've passed all possible tests but over 7 hours later I'm still bleeding. Normally I would take out the sewing kit and stitch myself but I can't reach this area. I've stitched myself up a dozen times for various things so as long as you REMOVE them properly it is safe to stitch yourself but it just hurts like hell but i'm tough. She won't stitch me so i'll probably make a trip to the ER for stitches sometime tonight.

i'll get a copy of the police report tomorrow and see how I feel. Personal lawsuits like this can only cover expenses but the lawyer takes a % so like I said those are ALWAYS a losing cause. After I get the Police report I think ill call the guys work and inform them he was wearing their shirt and fax the police report likely get the guy fired. Hopefully he'll get hit with the full felony and not plead down. Guys like this need some serious shit to come down on them. Some old friends of mine used to get into fist fights purely from being bored. I understand fist fights, they can actually be quite fun but to use a golf club is just crazy.
Totally bizarre. Think he was on something?
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Totally bizarre. Think he was on something?
like I said earlier it was like 5:45 so he obviously recently got off of work since he was wearing the polo type shirt the office people wear and we were ~ 30 minutes south of the main Whirlpool HQ. Even when he got up in my face he had this little cigar stub in his mouth and I don't think he said anything at all because the cigar never came out.

I know weed and it wasn't any weed. He had a short sleeve shirt and no needle marks were visible. If I see traction marks on a guy I get the hell away ASAP.

All I can say is this was absolutely a crazy situation. Drugs and alcohol couldn't have been involved... This was clearly just a nut.
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ended up using some of that liquid bandaid on it because it didn't appear to be all that deep. I probably should have gotten stitches BUT I hate going to see a doctor. I slept with it wrapped up tight and it oozed quite a bit but it doesn't hurt me that bad anymore. Its down to just a dull ache. Hurts quite a bit worse when I chew something on that side of my head but in a few days I'll be perfectly fine. The bad headache went away overnight and I haven't had anymore dizziness.

The dry blood on my car is a bitch to get cleaned up but soap/water and scrubbing works.
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That is some crazy shit yo.

What prompted all this? You cut him off on the highway or something?
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That is some crazy shit yo.

What prompted all this? You cut him off on the highway or something?
He cut me off actually and drove me off the road...

it was on the freeway near South Bend. The right lane was closed up ahead and a semi had just passed me (I was driving a ton and didn't have anything important to do so I was driving in a way to get over 50MPG takes longer to get there but if you're not in a hurry might as well save some cash)

I was about half a carlength behind the semi in the right lane and there was another 6-8 cars in the left lane behind that car that cut me off. By time I was back fully on the road and looking to merge there simply wasn't room so I sped up and went around the semi which the guy must have taken for me chasing after him because as soon as I merged to the left lane I look back to in front of me to see nothing but brake lights which he went down to 20-30MPH and at that point I was around 70MPH from passing the semi so I clearly didn't have enough space to slam on my brakes so I went around and took out a couple construction barrels. The guy tailgated me for a bit and honked before a gap in barrels showed up and he jumped over to the blocked off lane and passed me + a car that I had caught up to. I tried to get off the next exit but at the last second the guy blocked the exit and actually came to a stop which I unbelted and was about to hop out when the guy took off. I figured I hit him so I pulled my car away from blocking the exit and got out the guy stopped up ahead of me a little bit and while I was checking my car he popped the trunk and grabbed a driver. My options were to jump in the car and run the guy over or stand there and see WTF he was gonna do. In my head I figure OK he's gonna smash the car or something I don't give a shit, it'll get fixed....
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Is there a way to swing a golf club at a persons head without ill intent? I went down to the ground and lost quite a bit of blood. The guy took off and cops were called but I got his plate number. I had gotten off a freeway to inspect if there were damages to my car when the guy came out of nowhere. It all started in a freeway area where it narrows to 1 lane with a ton of those barrels. The guy cut me off and ran me into a bunch of barrels because he not only cut me off too close but slammed on his brakes. Since I hit barrels anyway I passed the fucker and slowed down to the speed limit. He then crossed the barrels into the construction area just to cross back in and slam on his brakes. Which I once again simply went around. this happened again and I was trying to get off the next exit when the guy blocked the exit parking diagonal which once he saw me start to get out he took off. I pulled up out of the way of traffic and got out to look at my car for damages when the guy comes up with a driver in his hand. I said the usual things like what are you doing with the golf club? if you want to fight drop the club and fight like a man. thats when he hit me with the club and ran off.

I know I would have been able to kick the guys ass if he didn't have the club. Once I got hit by it though it was straight above my ear and I went dizzy and couldn't do a thing. my sun glasses ended up the other side of my car.

I have the name and number of 2 guys who saw it. They both said I wasn't doing anything that appeared even close to threatening.

I can understand road rage leading to fist fights but WTF? Getting hit by a GOLF CLUB? I was in a good area not far outside of South Bend with nothing but white people anywhere around.

My wifes a nurse and I've passed all possible tests but over 7 hours later I'm still bleeding. Normally I would take out the sewing kit and stitch myself but I can't reach this area. I've stitched myself up a dozen times for various things so as long as you REMOVE them properly it is safe to stitch yourself but it just hurts like hell but i'm tough. She won't stitch me so i'll probably make a trip to the ER for stitches sometime tonight.

i'll get a copy of the police report tomorrow and see how I feel. Personal lawsuits like this can only cover expenses but the lawyer takes a % so like I said those are ALWAYS a losing cause. After I get the Police report I think ill call the guys work and inform them he was wearing their shirt and fax the police report likely get the guy fired. Hopefully he'll get hit with the full felony and not plead down. Guys like this need some serious shit to come down on them. Some old friends of mine used to get into fist fights purely from being bored. I understand fist fights, they can actually be quite fun but to use a golf club is just crazy.

I know a guy that did the same thing and he went to prison for 5 years.
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I'd be a LOT more understanding if it was just clubbing a car or hell even a body shot or something but if somebody is fucked up enough to actually hit a guy in a head they're trying to kill or seriously hurt somebody.

The cops weren't helpfull, here in MI they give you their business card with name rank and phone number. I wasn't given ANY contact info names or any information on even how to get the police report. I was told if they arrest this guy today they would be citing me for a road rage ticket and my license would likely be suspended. The cop even said hitting a barrel and driving on was leaving the scene of an accident. They were bending over backwards to try to talk me OUT of pressing charges and hell even intimidating me by talking about what they could cite ME with.

Obviously I wasn't thinking clearly at the scene since I just had pretty bad trauma to my HEAD and couldn't even drive home with the bleeding and dizziness. I'm going to call down there to try to track down a police report but honestly don't know who the hell to call. South Bend cops were there and like 3 other departments actually showed up and I even heard them fighting about who's area it was. They were even asking me tons of times if I was still in MI when it all started. Clearly the cops were trying to pass it on to somebody else and today I'm pretty pissed about the cops after I had time to think about it.
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Anybody have suggestions on how to handle this? If they were to try to hit me with a road rage citation is that something I can fight or is it maybe one of those things that I just go to anger management or something on and you get a "freebie" after completing. Thinking things over though I don't feel like a road rage citation would be something I should get for this. I avoided several accidents. Road rage is more like driving wreckless not caring if you cause or get in an accident. I was DODGING an accident like 3 different times.
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if you want to fight drop the club and fight like a man. thats when he hit me with the club and ran off.
I apologize in advance, but this kind of cracked me up...


that being said, it's a very serious situation in which you could have been killed. Get to an attorney ASAP. Don't take any advice from GFY, get it from an attorney (ok, take THAT advice from GFY ;-))

The longer you wait, the less effective it will be. I'm not talking about some lawsuit payday, but this guy needs to be put away and you're losing valuable time hemming and hawing around...so what if you have to go take an anger management course or something...make sure this guy is punished.
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I apologize in advance, but this kind of cracked me up...


that being said, it's a very serious situation in which you could have been killed. Get to an attorney ASAP. Don't take any advice from GFY, get it from an attorney (ok, take THAT advice from GFY ;-))

The longer you wait, the less effective it will be. I'm not talking about some lawsuit payday, but this guy needs to be put away and you're losing valuable time hemming and hawing around...so what if you have to go take an anger management course or something...make sure this guy is punished.
I'm waiting for the prosecutor to return my call. I'm not finding much info on the web about Indiana's policies on a road rage charge. I see only things about a bill that may or may not have passed. From reading THAT even by these "tougher" laws on it I don't think I could actually be convicted of it but until I get a police report and/or talk to the prosecutor I don't want to risk my license being suspended for 60 days which is the only penalty I'm finding...

bottom line is if they pursue road rage on ME it looks like at least 6 points along with possibly immediate termination of my license for 60 days. Stacking the points and the license suspension and michigans "driver responsibility" laws I could be paying $500-1k in fines AND not having my license for 2mnths AND my insurance going through the roof.

So I get a hit in the head and a couple months of HELL all for what? the satisfaction of knowing I put a criminal where he belongs? if he's a first time offender he'll plead down to something and get probation and a slap on the wrist.

You would think the system SHOULD work for us but the sad fact is it DOESNT!

Looking back on it there certainly is some funny shit in this... I certainly am glad to be perfectly fine out of it with no real damage. There are also ways to keep a case like this "pending" so that if he does something again before the statute of limitations runs out he's whacked for max penalties on this + the next charge.
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Wait at the Whirpool office parking lot by his car with a cop to search his car and maybe find the club with your blood on it in his trunk.
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Ill intent or not. contact the company he works for. Show them the police report, and most likely they will step up, take care of medical bills and put 10k into your pocket. No attorney, no bad press.

Other wise hint that you spoke to a friend at EX tv station and they said you should contact the company before the attorney. Kind of drops a hint you will go public. They dont need bad press.
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talk to an attorney and ALSO go to a doctor, you took a blow to the head with a golf club and lost a lot of blood, thats not something you take your chances of taking care of with a bandaid.
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You should consider yourself lucky the idiot didn't have a gun.

These days its not even worth honking at people. So many losers that can't drive worth shit and keep guns in their car ready to explode at the first person that points out what a shitty fucking driver they are.

Just my 2cents but trying to sue the company he works for is a bitch move since it doesn't seem like the company had anything to do with the situation. Just go after the guy that did it and get his ass thrown in jail.
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Yo Farkedup havent heard from you in ages. Sorry to hear you got wacked round the head and hope you are ok

I would try and get his address and go round to his house with a baseball bat and wack him round the head with it..see how he likes it...

Hope you get it sorted and the guy gets his due
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Old 08-14-2008, 03:41 PM   #29
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Yo Farkedup havent heard from you in ages. Sorry to hear you got wacked round the head and hope you are ok

I would try and get his address and go round to his house with a baseball bat and wack him round the head with it..see how he likes it...

Hope you get it sorted and the guy gets his due
Good ole street justice. If he wasnt driving a company car on company time. It doesnt matter. Pay a lady at the DMV 50 bucks to tell you here he lives
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Old 08-14-2008, 03:45 PM   #30
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I have never understood the people who fuck up on the road and then pissed at some random person who had nothing to do with their own fuck up.
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Old 08-14-2008, 04:18 PM   #31
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You can't do shit unless you have a police report....
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Old 08-14-2008, 04:35 PM   #32
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ended up using some of that liquid bandaid on it because it didn't appear to be all that deep. I probably should have gotten stitches BUT I hate going to see a doctor. I slept with it wrapped up tight and it oozed quite a bit but it doesn't hurt me that bad anymore. Its down to just a dull ache. Hurts quite a bit worse when I chew something on that side of my head but in a few days I'll be perfectly fine. The bad headache went away overnight and I haven't had anymore dizziness.

The dry blood on my car is a bitch to get cleaned up but soap/water and scrubbing works.
You should have and need to go to the doc's or ER, you could have internal bleeding and be dieing right now... Jeez!


As for sueing his employer it is quite posiable that you can....

Remember when we where in school... If you kicked someones ass on the way home even if it was off school property the school could punish you for it...

Same principal here... Companies are responsable for there employees actions to and from work... Why do you think big factories have huge locker rooms with showers and such..?

They encourage you to come to work in street clothes and change back into them at the end of the day... Some places it is policy...

They do not want there employees going out after work, having a few beers and getting in trouble with there logo on there chest...
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Old 08-14-2008, 04:35 PM   #33
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Should learn how to fight.
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Old 08-14-2008, 08:17 PM   #35
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Wait at the Whirpool office parking lot by his car with a cop to search his car and maybe find the club with your blood on it in his trunk.
they already got the club...
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If the guy who hit you was in a uniform,and he was working for the company at the time of the Assault, then you will make $$$$$$$$$$$$ cause now the company is responsible for their employees while on the clock or at Lunch.
pretty sure he was off the clock since it was 5:45 and he was a good half hour from the office building
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Good ole street justice. If he wasnt driving a company car on company time. It doesnt matter. Pay a lady at the DMV 50 bucks to tell you here he lives
got the name of the sub division he lives in so its down to about 20 houses, must keep the grand prix in a garage or something... Not a bad sub division ;)
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Should learn how to fight.
I know how to fight hand to hand... but the guy had a golf club and thought the guy was too much of a pussy to do anything so a quick swing of the club caught me off guard. The guy was clearly a pussy. He whacked me then even while I was dizzy and going down saw him running away and speeding off.

Anyway the prosecutor didn't return my call and I still don't have a police report. Once I get it I'm calling the reporter that came to the scene that works for the paper and calling whirlpool and asking for the legal department. I'll fax the police report over to them as well as a copy of the reporters card and a few pages from the yellow pages under "lawyer"

I am having some minor issues with my head still tonight. When I bend over or do anything that increases pressure to my I get a little dizzy and it hurts. Right in the middle of the cut area and slightly above it there is a dent and its squishy. It hurts like hell to press so I could possibly have a skull fracture.

I went about a pretty normal day today. I worked on cleaning out the basement and mowed the lawn with a rider mower and used a trimmer to get all the edges. Its weird I feel pretty much fine but there's clearly something wrong. I'm going to make an appointment to see my normal doctor tomorrow and just have him schedule an x-ray. I don't feel like sitting in the ER all night just to get whacked by an insane bill.

By time the cops got the guy he had already changed his shirt but I'm sure at least one of the witnesses saw him wearing a whirlpool shirt. Since the guy is going to end up fired I won't exactly be seeing any cash from him if I sue and I can't really afford to be out a bunch of money right now. I've been putting off selling my '68 Mustang as long as possible and on my current budget I can keep it at least till spring but any shit can toss that off.
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Old 08-14-2008, 08:35 PM   #36
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That's too fucked up.damn lucky you weren't killed.a friend got stabbed 2 times with his own antennae in a road rage incident.
Human life ain't worth shit in the courts even if you are lucky to survive the attack.
It's a kill or be killed world unfortunately
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:05 PM   #37
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sue and prosecute, teach him a lesson
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:23 PM   #38
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That is scary! I am glad you are okay. I can't believe you didn't go to the hospital or doctor but I understand not liking to go as most do not. I really do think you should do something and not just let it go. This guy sounds nuts and he'll do it to someone else.
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:34 PM   #39
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Guy will go to prison if he can be ID'ed.

I'm a bit surprised that you didn't get the fuck out when you saw him with the golf club though.
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Old 08-15-2008, 11:15 AM   #40
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Guy will go to prison if he can be ID'ed.

I'm a bit surprised that you didn't get the fuck out when you saw him with the golf club though.
he closed the gap too quickly. Trying to get in the car would have just gotten me hit in the head (more likely the back of the head which is WAY too dangerous) My odds were better to stare the guy down like I did but I guess my staredown scared the guy.

Oh and he was Id'd, I got his plate number and even managed to remember it long enough.
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suing in cases like this is a LOSING battle. You can only be paid back for what you've lost AND the lawyer gets a cut so you sue to break even just for the lawyer to take a cut of that. "pain and suffering" is a joke odds are you'd be awarded something like $2k possibly less and possibly more. I do plan to prosecute BUT like I said earlier if it means I'd lose my drivers license I can't fuck myself over just to prevent somebody in the future from getting possibly killed. It'll hurt this guy the most to lose his job and if I can get him hit with a felony he'd never work a decent job again SO any thoughts of a lawsuit are out the window. McDonalds workers can't pay legal fees ;)

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That is scary! I am glad you are okay. I can't believe you didn't go to the hospital or doctor but I understand not liking to go as most do not. I really do think you should do something and not just let it go. This guy sounds nuts and he'll do it to someone else.
Him doing it to somebody else is a thought BUT like above if it means me getting fucked over I'm not the type to "take one for the team" it would create too much of a hardship on me.
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Old 08-15-2008, 11:19 AM   #41
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Calm down

I would advise you to calm down. On a first place if you have been hurt so much why you are here and not in the hospital? Why do you think about profit now? You should think about your health first. Did he do that on purpose? And this big business t-shirt on him? What is going on with the world? Is everything about money now?
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Old 08-25-2008, 11:17 PM   #42
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Was it near the Benton Harbor/ St. Joe area? I see you are from Kalamazoo, I am currently a student at WMU in Kalamazoo. I lived in the St. Joe area for my junior/senior year of high school.

Sounds like a shitty situation, some stupid/crazy fucks come out of that Benton Harbor area. Hit me up on ICQ, recently just bought a new driver and I am pretty sure I could hit a car/head better than a golf ball, maybe I could get a few of the bad swings out before hitting the course with it! ;)

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