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If you are lazy when the money is "easy" to make you going to be fucked 4x over when it starts getting hard to make. When it is "easy" to make you should be working 10x harder (not less) so you can make as much as you can, and then invest that money into other things.
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I didn't come here to get rich or anything like that, I wanted to be able to set my own hours and spend more time with my family and things like that. I wouldn't trade the time I got to spend coaching my son's little league teams or the trips my wife and I got to take together and all of the little things like that for a million bucks, seriously. Anyways, thx for the bump. ![]()
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We'll be chasing money the rest of our lives, but we can never replace the quality time spent with family. ![]()
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The way I look at it, I would rather put my time in now and enjoy the rest of my life being financially secure and not having to work unless I wanted to. Not work "part time" till the day I die, and be greeting people at walmart when I am in my 70's because I didn't bust my ass when I was younger. Just shoot me if that happens. Another bump for your sale.
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If you are the type that you can never have enough money and if you make 100 million you want to make 100 million more. Or if you burn through the money as fast as you make it... yeah maybe then you would be chasing it forever. But if you really worked 10x harder early on in your life if you save and invest correctly you should be set the rest of your life. Then instead of spending time with your kids just on weekends you could spend everyday with them, your grand kids, make sure your kids are financially secure, go to college, have money for that wedding, take vacations with them, everyone's health is covered. Travel the world with your spouse etc. etc. etc... When I hear the " enjoy life, I didn't work much because I wanted to spend time with my family, spend it while you are young" etc.. or any one of those type of sayings, my first response is to think how people are making excuses for being lazy... at least 9 out of 10 times I bet that is case. ![]()
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aren't you looking for an affiliate rep job after a decade of working 10-12 hours every day?
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Snake Doctor good luck on your sale. I think what your looking for (around 10k) is what it is worth if market conditions were better. 1 yrs net is probably realistic.
Also although some of the information in your posts is incorrect (as in who is retired etc) they are well written. my 2 cents.
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Tomorrow is promised to nobody. My dad died at 53, my wife's dad died 10 years younger than that. Her brother died in his late 30's. Shit happens. If you knew for certain you'd be around "X" years then you could plan your life accordingly, but none of us know that. Even if I knew for certain I'd be around, I didn't see the point in missing alot of my son's childhood so I could have a shit ton of money in the bank and spend time with him when he's a teenager. That rarely works out....by that time you're basically a stranger to them and rather than appreciate all the material things you can give them, they actually resent them and see them as the reason that you weren't there for them early on. Anyhoo, don't want to turn this into an episode of Dr. Phil......I had a great run, and now it's over. I'm back to the corporate world with it's dog and pony shows and cya memos, and just want to cut ties with this biz completely for several reasons. First $7500 takes the whole ball of wax. Anything less than that and I might as well keep it, headache or not.
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The "you can die young" is the classic response of people who don't want to work a lot. True you can die young, you can also live to be 100. And if you don't work much and you live to be a 100 chances are your life will fucking suck and you will work till you are real old and then tossed into a retirement home because you can't afford anything and the state will have to take care of you. Per your logic, god help you if you don't die young because your life will suck as your will be poor and old. For every person you have known that died before 60, there are millions more who live pay check to pay check well into their 70's and still working. /Dr. Phil ;)
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There is always a happy medium.
Will has a good point that when the getting is good the truly successful get after it. The less motivated use it as yet another excuse to take some additional time off. However family time is important, especially in the early years. It's a cheesy saying but you can never get those times back, no matter how much you make. You can still work a ton of hours and spend time with your family. It's just setting priorities. Working in this industry is a luxury in the fact that its mostly work spent from home. Meaning you can get up early, work, take time off and get the kids to school, work until they get home, help them with homework and eat dinner with the fam, tuck them in and then work at night. You can work more hours and have more family time then if you had to work a regular 9-5. |
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That BTW is a classic response from a money obsessed workaholic who is trying to justify his lack of time spent with his kids, or the fact that he's on his 3rd marriage, or that his kids grew up to be addicts, strippers, hookers, whatever. I never said I didn't save any money, or that I was looking for a handout, or that I haven't planned for my future, be that living to 100 (because I've saved) or dying tomorrow (because I've bought insurance). What I've learned over the years is this, you never get rich, you just achieve new levels of relative poverty. No matter how much you have, you're always looking at the guy one rung above you on the ladder and envying him. The guy who can't afford to take a nice vacation envies the guy who can. The guy going on vacation and flying coach envies the guy flying first class. The guy flying first class envies the guy who can charter a private plane. The guy chartering the plane envies the guy who owns a plane. The guy who owns a plane envies the guy who owns a nicer plane. The guy who owns the nicest plane probably sees his wealth as more of a burden than a blessing, because everyone wants a piece of him and he doesn't know who his true friends are, and he envies the "normal joe six pack guy". At some point, you decide what your priorities are and live them. It's not like I'm too lazy to work hard....if I was, I would have never taken the initiative to start my own business in the first place. A lazy person wouldn't dream of spending their free time "working" to try and get a new business going. I made a conscious choice to earn less money in order to have more time for other things that are more important to me and I have zero regrets about that. Quit trying to find something wrong with me just because I don't share your worldview and worship of the almighty dollar. plskthx
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by your own admission you have worked 10-12 hours a day for a decade and are in the same place as snake doctor: struggling in adult and far from retired.
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Snake Doctor, where are you going from here ? what is it that is making you better ROI than adult?
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...and i am perfectly fine with that... i'm sure I could do very well if I wanted to make this a full time gig, but I don't want to...
I'm sure there are A LOT of lurkers who do the exact same thing... probably more than you and I both know. ![]()
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If you can work somewhere for a 100K salary, then you are the type of person that will be happy with what you make and have a good time with family. But if you are a true business man, you will never stop chasing it till the day you die. (Or close to it)
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i treat it like a game where money is the points, and a competitor always wants to score more.
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I hope you are not nearly as depraved as the person you chose as your avatar. He stuck so many needles into his groin over the years that they had to juice him twice before he finally fried in the chair.
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I never said you don't care about your family. You made it sound like the only reason you were putting in 3-4 hours a day was so you could spend time with your family. I think that is simply an excuse. but whatever, just my opinion. Atticus explained it better than me. I'm not money obsessed, like i said a means to an end for me. Speak for your self for being the person always trying to make more and never being satisfied with what you have. Envy this person, bullshit etc... I will be perfectly fine when my passive income can pay all of my bills and give me a decent amount of play money left over, while the value of my passive income generating investments also grows. That envy crap might be you or the next guy, but not me. I don't envy anyone now, so why would I envy someone when I made enough to retire? I'm happily married, no kids, first wife never cheated muchless hookers, etc. A lazy person is soemone who works 3-4 hours a day whether it is for someone else or themselves. Actually if they worked for someone else they would likely be forced to work more hours as they would be on a schedule and most shifts are longer than 3-4 hours. I'm not trying to find anything wrong with you, just difference of opinion.... You stated the "work 3-4 hours a day was the way to go so you can do other important things with your life" I disagreed. Quote:
![]() keep thinking that bro. I'm not struggling and I am not that far from retiring either. I would have been there already if I wouldn't have strayed from adult and tied up a lot of money in real estate just to watch my net worth take a huge hit over the last couple years. I will be the first to admit I lost a lot of money in offline projects, but it certainly wasn't from a lack of working hard and I am still doing fine with adult. But bro, you know my business, im struggling like snakedoctor if you say so. Now if I could only g et that affiliate rep job ![]()
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Not talking about a quick million but building wealth. When you have secure investments that go up in value each year plus generator a cash flow. The cash flow more than covers your living expenses. Money left over can be reinvested and/or used for fun. Continue to grow your wealth from the money generated from it, manage your investsments. Work if, when, and how much you want to. Take a week off or a year off. That is what I called retired.
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Money comes and goes. You can bust your ass 100 hours a week and do all the right things, and still lose it all and be back to the 9-5 grind. Meanwhile, all you have to show for it is a good story (not you specifically, but people that this happens to) At least I spent time enjoying life, instead of working insane hours so that one day I'd "have enough money to enjoy life"....because that doesn't come with a guarantee that you'll ever even get the money you're chasing.....and even if you do get it, alot of people realize it doesn't make them happy anyways, and they're no happier in their McMansion driving a BMW than they were in their 1000 sq ft condo driving a Chevy. But if it makes you feel better, just keep thinking I'm lazy. ![]()
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100% out of porn, eh. Ok, Snake Doctor. Good luck with selling your sites.
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Way to bit my style. Lenny2 is a total fag.
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![]() You are joking right? I don't think you were the first to sell out, besides if you already closed the deal why does this even matter to you?
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No if I wanted to copy you I would have made a whiny ass thread every day for over a year about tube sites, added shady x-sales to all of my join pages, used BANKWITHDRAWAL as a billing descriptor, and THEN I would have sold everything.
Instead, I just decided to get out and sell everything.
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I'm sure this will do well for the right buyer, at the right price. Good luck with the sale!
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Snake Doctor - on your ICQ
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Bump for a pretender
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Damn skippy. I guess nobody wants this pile of crap.
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