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tranza · 09-09-2010, 12:28 PM

Good news?? More like no news at all!!

No updates about what exactly happened, why this happened, what is beeing done, and no schedule about when it will be solved.

webgurl · 09-09-2010, 12:28 PM

Interesting , hmmmmmm the sega continues .
As far as I am concerned , Epass is still the number 1 option for methd of payment in our industry right now and caters to us very well .
Really hope things get back on track soon <sigh>

st0ned · 09-09-2010, 12:29 PM

Since we have no new news, see sig.

DEA - banned for life · 09-09-2010, 12:29 PM

digi · 09-09-2010, 12:29 PM

I work hard for my money. I'd like it back.

k0nr4d · 09-09-2010, 12:29 PM

DavieVegas · 09-09-2010, 12:29 PM

You fucking serious? This is the news after 4 days of talking to them? Bullshit and no one is comfortable. A thanks is def not in order here. Thanks for nothing as expected. At least tell us what happened or what steps are in order to fix this for christ sakes.

SallyRand · 09-09-2010, 12:29 PM

Sally.

Caligari · 09-09-2010, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superdio

Ok, so, no visa card anyomore?

thats what it sounds like. we will be paid what we have in our accounts but the current visa/epass scenario is likely kaput.

what epass does after all of this is a good question, but the big issue of at least getting our funds back looks good.

spacedog · 09-09-2010, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

hmm so no info...nothign new on whether or not things will continue

seems just getting the money back is the goal?

That's what I'm thinking.. sounds like the virtual card is done with.

I want the card to work as before. Ok, yes I want my money, but fuck.. just get the cards working like before is more important to me.

icymelon · 09-09-2010, 12:30 PM

not sure I understand what the difference is between the funds being available for virtual visa or transfer to wallet. My guess is it has to do with a certain cash reserve and the funds moving out of epass into individual bank accounts.

on the other hand a lot of webmasters that are not in the us couldn't move the money from the wallet to their bank so cash reserve would be meet.

I think a critical first step is making the money locked in virtual visa available to move to wallet so at least hosting bills and other venders can get paid.

Cash · 09-09-2010, 12:30 PM

There is no guarantee given, just some words and promises ...

k0nr4d · 09-09-2010, 12:30 PM

The bumped year old threads were just as informative as this one, unfortunately.

blofer80 · 09-09-2010, 12:31 PM

sorry i have waited 6 days but now i want to say
FUCK OFF

Paul&John · 09-09-2010, 12:31 PM

Still thanks for the update Michael ;)

Jarmusch · 09-09-2010, 12:31 PM

*Applying for a payoneer account*

Klen · 09-09-2010, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Good news?? More like no news at all!!

No updates about what exactly happened, why this happened, what is beeing done, and no schedule about when it will be solved.

It would be easier if he just posted "you all screwed"

Trax · 09-09-2010, 12:31 PM

Michael O: I really think you owe us an update about the status of outgoing wires! I see nobody on GFY posting that any wire has successfully gone out... all i see is people waiting

Barry-xlovecam · 09-09-2010, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

[F]irst, be assured that your funds are fully safe and protected. You are owed that and it will be fulfilled. The funds are secure. ...

Chris Mallick
For ePassporte

That is good to know.

Since the funds are safe, transfer 50% of them to an account from which we can wire transfer out 50% of that.

That is 25% of the funds that are "status unknown" but claimed as secure.

A good faith gesture would go a long way in keeping epassporte's credibility.

selena · 09-09-2010, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigluv

Non statement does more harm than good.

Also, the tone of this seems to be a lot more subdued -- no mention of getting back to business as usual even as a goal. I read it as 'we will eventually get the money disbursed on a one time basis' , but nothing about carrying on in future with VISA functions.

MonsterWeb · 09-09-2010, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog

That's what I'm thinking.. sounds like the virtual card is done with.

I want the card to work as before. Ok, yes I want my money, but fuck.. just get the cards working like before is more important to me.

yeah the money is extremelly important, but epassporte's visa features are extremelly important for a huge part of us.

and wtf.. i was expecting at least to hear the cause of the suspension.

Chicks Delivery · 09-09-2010, 12:34 PM

Good news....... I hope...........

chronig · 09-09-2010, 12:34 PM

The money is gone, plain and simple. Deal with it. All this speculation and false hope is just going to hurt you in the long run.

In the faint chance you do get it back, consider it a miracle. Until then, stop hoping, you're just going to fuck yourself over even more than you already are.

Matyko · 09-09-2010, 12:34 PM

a friend of mine who i discuss this with atm just did a funny translation of the statement:
"The details are complicated" = we don't know what is happening
"funds in motion" = we are trying to withdraw what we can and run as fast as possible
"ePassporte's most important asset has always been our account holder's" = thanks you for your money
"We are not going to undermine that asset by treating cardholders in any manner other than the best we can" = we need you to believe everything is safe so we will have time to steal your money
"Most of us have had the unfortunate experience of dealing with banks and card associations that simply “cut us off” and did not pay us" = everybody is nowadays ripping off ... so you should be prepared for this
"it does not help any of us if we are constantly updating you on the basis of the calls that take place almost hourly" = STOP FUCKING CALLING US IDIOTS

I don't say this is true 100% but at least its funny as hell :D

Rui · 09-09-2010, 12:35 PM

Thanks a lot.

Already feel not only more calm, but reassured my money and the service is safe!

Now I can finally get some decent sleep and not have to worry about this whole thing and the impact in mid/long term in the industry.

So once again thank you for the enlightened and informing PR statement!

spacedog · 09-09-2010, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

*Applying for a payoneer account*

I wouldn't trust them with my money.. no fucking way.

chronig · 09-09-2010, 12:36 PM

Michael O: Man, we need to tell them something... they're really going crazy over there on GFY and elsewhere... I think holding this back any longer will just make things worse
Chris Mallick: Well there's nothing to say, the money's gone, and we can't tell them that, come up with something
Michael O: Something like what?!
Chris Mallick: I don't know, some sort of speculative bullshit, tell them the money is safe, but we have no exact answers on the situation as of it
Michael O: Sigh... ok...

BetChips · 09-09-2010, 12:36 PM

Michael, come on man, I sent an email to you when this first popped off about how important my epassporte funds are to me right now. There has to be a better explanation as to where our funds are at and what solution there is to get my money and when? Please help

Michael O · 09-09-2010, 12:36 PM

We have received a high number of wire disbursement requests and we must manually review each one at this time. Please bear with us while we work through this
backlog. We will notify you once your wire is sent.

lucPL · 09-09-2010, 12:36 PM

all funds are frozen thats why no single wire went out

ACH are working because they have other account, in US, with some small funds only to cover few ACH so that funds are propably gone by now.

TheSenator · 09-09-2010, 12:37 PM

I need a timeframe

flashfire · 09-09-2010, 12:37 PM

What about the wallet wires!

SironMe · 09-09-2010, 12:37 PM

Its seems - this is the end.

chronig · 09-09-2010, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko

a friend of mine who i discuss this with atm just did a funny translation of the statement:
"The details are complicated" = we don't know what is happening
"funds in motion" = we are trying to withdraw what we can and run as fast as possible
"ePassporte's most important asset has always been our account holder's" = thanks you for your money
"We are not going to undermine that asset by treating cardholders in any manner other than the best we can" = we need you to believe everything is safe so we will have time to steal your money
"Most of us have had the unfortunate experience of dealing with banks and card associations that simply ?cut us off? and did not pay us" = everybody is nowadays ripping off ... so you should be prepared for this
"it does not help any of us if we are constantly updating you on the basis of the calls that take place almost hourly" = STOP FUCKING CALLING US IDIOTS

I don't say this is true 100% but at least its funny as hell :D

Personally I think this is RIGHT on the money.

The Other Steve · 09-09-2010, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

I think there is money. They specifically said it's safe. The question is do they have access to it.

... and will they ever get access to it. The suggestion that things are delayed because "there are funds in motion" seems a little strange. There are always funds in motion in a banking system and if we have to wait till those funds stop being in motion then we could all be a lot older before we see any of our funds.

flashfire · 09-09-2010, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

We have received a high number of wire disbursement requests and we must manually review each one at this time. Please bear with us while we work through this
backlog. We will notify you once your wire is sent.

has one gone out yet? seriously...if you haven't done any thats not "working through them"

SallyRand · 09-09-2010, 12:38 PM

We know who Billy Joe is but who in the ePass debacle is Bobbie Sue?

Just wonderin'.

Sally.

FlexxAeon · 09-09-2010, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

We at ePassporte are as distressed as you, our valued cardholders, over an action that we did not see coming and as of today we still have received no good basis for it.....

Chris Mallick
For ePassporte

@ Chris.... There has to be some basis though. Whether it's good or not...is that the CM/epass opinion? I'm sure by now, you're received some reason/excuse from the bank as to why it was done. They didn't request Visa to stop it "just because". If you've been in contact with the bank, they have to have told you something by now. Whether it's good basis or not, I'm sure will be judged later.

For the record, I'm not out of any money in this situation. I ask on behalf of the people.

mikke · 09-09-2010, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

If you have questions to this please email me [email protected] and I will answer you within 24 hours.

Michael, i sent You mail like 24h ago without any answer from You

ContentPimp · 09-09-2010, 12:38 PM

I just want to know if my money is gone or not so I can get off gfy and have a good night sleep.

tranza · 09-09-2010, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

This issue stems from our processing and reporting ability through the Visa system and their processor.

What was the reason Visa gave you for cutting you out?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

Most of us have had the unfortunate experience of dealing with banks and card associations that simply ?cut us off? and did not pay us.

WTF are you talking about? This is NOT something that happens all the time. Don't act like it's business as usual.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

We all fully understand that communication to our cardholders is critical. However, it does not help any of us if we are constantly updating you on the basis of the calls that take place almost hourly. It seems to us that giving you facts, based on agreements we are working on is the best form of communication.

Can you give us any information about what kind of calls you are having, and what kind of agreement you want to achieve?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

We too have funds that are stuck in the system, as well as massive costs of operation without any income.

I guess we should all feel sorry for you, huh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

For those of you that have been in the industry for many years, I hope you will recall that I have a very strong track record of fighting for the rights of webmasters, program sponsors, billing companies, merchants and the industry; that dedication continues.

Thanks you for your understanding in this difficult time and for your support over the last 8 years of our operations.

I really do hope you guys can figure a way to turn the table, and I have supported Epass from day #1. But the lack of answers regarding what is really happening is very disturbing.

adultwebmestar · 09-09-2010, 12:39 PM

My money is safe in Mallick's pocket...

Kiopa_Matt · 09-09-2010, 12:40 PM

The funds are "safe and secure", but ePass is working hard on getting the funds "returned". Huh???

So the VISA cards weren't just "suspended", but instead the funds were seized?

2intense · 09-09-2010, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

*Applying for a payoneer account*

same here

DEA - banned for life · 09-09-2010, 12:41 PM

J. Falcon · 09-09-2010, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighlyIntoxicated

Thanks for making us wait for absolutely nothing Micheal.

You mean Mr. Mallick right?

Mystica · 09-09-2010, 12:41 PM

ok guys you may now sleep. hehehe the long wait is finally over.

blofer80 · 09-09-2010, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

We have received a high number of wire disbursement requests and we must manually review each one at this time. Please bear with us while we work through this
backlog. We will notify you once your wire is sent.

Can you conirm wires are going out? Because i am talking with people and nobody got any notification about its wire going out.

EXPLAIN THIS. OR TELL US WHEN WIRES ARE REALY GOING TO BE SENT.

THANK YOU

DavieVegas · 09-09-2010, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

Thanks a lot.

Already feel not only more calm, but reassured my money and the service is safe!

Now I can finally get some decent sleep and not have to worry about this whole thing and the impact in mid/long term in the industry.

So once again thank you for the enlightened and informing PR statement!

Ur fucking joking right?> Is this to get ur post count up moron?

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Matyko PsyHead Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 8,662	a friend of mine who i discuss this with atm just did a funny translation of the statement: "The details are complicated" = we don't know what is happening "funds in motion" = we are trying to withdraw what we can and run as fast as possible "ePassporte's most important asset has always been our account holder's" = thanks you for your money "We are not going to undermine that asset by treating cardholders in any manner other than the best we can" = we need you to believe everything is safe so we will have time to steal your money "Most of us have had the unfortunate experience of dealing with banks and card associations that simply “cut us off” and did not pay us" = everybody is nowadays ripping off ... so you should be prepared for this "it does not help any of us if we are constantly updating you on the basis of the calls that take place almost hourly" = STOP FUCKING CALLING US IDIOTS I don't say this is true 100% but at least its funny as hell :D __________________ -=- Register with our ref link and we help you with the setup! -=- AdSpyglass.com - Double your profit from brokers

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chronig Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,653	Michael O: Man, we need to tell them something... they're really going crazy over there on GFY and elsewhere... I think holding this back any longer will just make things worse Chris Mallick: Well there's nothing to say, the money's gone, and we can't tell them that, come up with something Michael O: Something like what?! Chris Mallick: I don't know, some sort of speculative bullshit, tell them the money is safe, but we have no exact answers on the situation as of it Michael O: Sigh... ok...

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