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Old 10-14-2010, 11:21 AM   #51
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If he indeed reduce his daily intake by 1500 kcals, just by dropping massive amounts of sugar drinks, he would indeed lose fat fasssstttt. 10-15 pounds would be possible, easy even!
last year, first time in my life i picked up 30 extra pounds withing 3 month - i admit i was stuffing my self 2.5 times a day without much exercise. it took me 6 month without extra effort, organically get to my normal range just by back to my normal dieting. after that experience i won't believe fat can go away fast naturally maybe extra body water held up by sugars or salt but definitely not fat. btw in my life i consumed lots and lots of sugar - never been a problem with weight, only health issue sugar gave me are teeth problems.
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And yet I lost 75 pounds drinking diet Soda the whole time.
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I can't believe I read this whole thread and none of your were even close to the scientific reason diet sodas make you add weight.

The human body works on condition responses. If your body is used to exercising, it increasing your metabolism. You burn more stored energy than you intake, you lose weight. If you stop exercising, it takes a while for your body to slow back down its metabolism. Conditioned to your enviroment.

Sugar/glucose eventually gets stored as fat. Your body is conditioned to the sweet taste of sugar over years to then release insulin, which induces the storage function.

You drink sweet tasting diet soda you still trigger your insulin response which induces your body to store the calories that your body has in your system from your daily food, regardless of the caloric makeup of that food or the calorie count in the drink.

Reduce your bodies GI response by not drinking dite/regular soda or other sweet tasting stuff, eventually you reduce the insulin response to store calories,..
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Hmm... i guess i didn't really lose 50lbs by switching to diet
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I don't have a link but it's general knowledge I've lived with to not get fat.

For example you can get the skinniest person that never gets fat and make them eat McDonalds everyday and guaranteed they will get fat because McDonalds food will never spoil, even after 5 years and you will never digest that food

If you eat something like an apple or any kind of food that will naturally rot then there is no way you can get fat because it can only stay in your body for so long before it has to recycle itself back into the earth.

So its very easy and you never have to read any food labels or count calories. Just ask yourself before you eat a food "will this food spoil/rot?" If the answer is yes then it is good!


this is the funniest shit i have ever heard....





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I can't believe I read this whole thread and none of your were even close to the scientific reason diet sodas make you add weight.

The human body works on condition responses. If your body is used to exercising, it increasing your metabolism. You burn more stored energy than you intake, you lose weight. If you stop exercising, it takes a while for your body to slow back down its metabolism. Conditioned to your enviroment.

Sugar/glucose eventually gets stored as fat. Your body is conditioned to the sweet taste of sugar over years to then release insulin, which induces the storage function.

You drink sweet tasting diet soda you still trigger your insulin response which induces your body to store the calories that your body has in your system from your daily food, regardless of the caloric makeup of that food or the calorie count in the drink.

Reduce your bodies GI response by not drinking dite/regular soda or other sweet tasting stuff, eventually you reduce the insulin response to store calories,..
how would this apply to non-insulin producing diabetics?
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This is a fascinating thread. This logic with eliminating food with preservatives makes a lot of sense. I once read a simple rule to follow. Avoid any food that your great grandmother wouldn't recognize. Of course, all this food talk is useless unless you exercise regularly to increase your metabolism.
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So drinking a diet soda versus a non diet will save you only the calories contained in the drink. Well, thats all they claim to do really which is an interesting twist, lol.
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This is a fascinating thread. This logic with eliminating food with preservatives makes a lot of sense. I once read a simple rule to follow. Avoid any food that your great grandmother wouldn't recognize. Of course, all this food talk is useless unless you exercise regularly to increase your metabolism.
metabolism can be increased by eating frequent small meals as well as exercise.
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I can't believe I read this whole thread and none of your were even close to the scientific reason diet sodas make you add weight.

The human body works on condition responses. If your body is used to exercising, it increasing your metabolism. You burn more stored energy than you intake, you lose weight. If you stop exercising, it takes a while for your body to slow back down its metabolism. Conditioned to your enviroment.

Sugar/glucose eventually gets stored as fat. Your body is conditioned to the sweet taste of sugar over years to then release insulin, which induces the storage function.

You drink sweet tasting diet soda you still trigger your insulin response which induces your body to store the calories that your body has in your system from your daily food, regardless of the caloric makeup of that food or the calorie count in the drink.

Reduce your bodies GI response by not drinking dite/regular soda or other sweet tasting stuff, eventually you reduce the insulin response to store calories,..
Exactly. Although the last research I read on it suggested that up to about 30% of people will trigger an insulin response with a 0 calorie sweetner. So not everyone, not even most.
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Exactly. Although the last research I read on it suggested that up to about 30% of people will trigger an insulin response with a 0 calorie sweetner. So not everyone, not even most.
well I think it all depends on the sample groups being considered.

Were they previous full calorie soda drinkers that switched to diet and still gained weight?

Active people with high metabolisms that have only ever drank diet?

30% is quite high for statistics. That's basically 1:3 people
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how would this apply to non-insulin producing diabetics?
any info on this tim?

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All soda is unhealthy. Who cares if it's diet or if it will make you obese. You can be skinny and die before you reach 40 just the same.
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Seriously, I'm convinced a lot of the people who post on this board are potheads who've never graduated high school.
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I did the south beach diet last year and lost 35 pounds. I cut out all sugared sodas and would have 1-2 diet cokes per week. I cut out all white foods and anything processed...stuck with fruits and veggies, lean meats, etc. I would eat 5 small meals per day rather than 3 big ones.

the hardest part was cutting out any sugar (even most fruits) and all caffeine for the first two weeks...the way it was explained to me is that caffeine was causing a slow down in metabolism (I was horrible about drinking LOTS of coffee and pounding down 2-3 Monster energies per day). It was part of recalibrating my taste buds and cravings.

I cut all that out, switched to drinking mostly just water and little things like walking to the store half a mile away to pick up a few items rather than hopping in the care and driving there. I would walk to get my lunch. I didn't go on a big exercise binge, but changed the way I ate and adding in the walking, etc.

I think what happens is what was stated here...people will use the diet coke to justify ordering an extra burger, but that caffeine is also causing issues.

That said, I've recently gained a lot of the weight back (preggo sympathy weight) mainly due to moving away from the 5 small meals per day thing, bringing back the caffeine, bigger food portions, etc.
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much appreciated if so.
I don't think that diet soda would have any direct 1 on 1 impacts on non-insulin diabetics.

Of course if you drink lots of caffeinated diet soda, probably could lead to some malnutrition or food disorders given that is supresses the appetite in some people....me....when I pop my thermal pills in the morning....they work pretty well on staving off my morning hunger before I get around to breakfast.

Soda isn't evil and horrible for you if consumed in moderation. that applies to just about everything anyways...
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the hardest part was cutting out any sugar (even most fruits) and all caffeine for the first two weeks...the way it was explained to me is that caffeine was causing a slow down in metabolism (I was horrible about drinking LOTS of coffee and pounding down 2-3 Monster energies per day). It was part of recalibrating my taste buds and cravings.
caffeine increases your metabolic rate, but increases other factors that lead to weight gain sometimes. Which include cravings, restricted blood flow, increased stress levels.

but chemically, it affects the metabolism through high rates of fatty acid oxidation, thats why its a main component in weight loss drugs.

but if having a coffee makes your ass crave a 600 calorie cheese danish, well ya know not good.
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I don't think that diet soda would have any direct 1 on 1 impacts on non-insulin diabetics.

Of course if you drink lots of caffeinated diet soda, probably could lead to some malnutrition or food disorders given that is supresses the appetite in some people....me....when I pop my thermal pills in the morning....they work pretty well on staving off my morning hunger before I get around to breakfast.

Soda isn't evil and horrible for you if consumed in moderation. that applies to just about everything anyways...
right on. and i completely agree with your comments re: moderation.
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i dont have time to read it, however i know a lot of people who drink diet soda and eat fatty shit so yeah... might be that.

i drink diet soda and im thin thin thin

also a lil sick right now stupid girl from the weekend but i digress
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Will, that probably was 10-15 pounds of excessive body water. i doubt fat would go away that fast without any extra effort
nope, i didn't stop drinking lol. I just stopped inhaling sugar. Try cutting out 1500 calories of sugar a day and see how much weight you drop over a month or two. I drank water but mainly diet drinks, same amount of drinks, just cut out the sugar.


Now I have dropped 15 pounds of body water before as well, did it in 3 days. I call it the Katrina Diet. After the hurricane pasted I spent 3 days with not a lot of water, and I sweat my ass off in the sun all 3 days cutting trees to clear the highway so we could get out. At night I sweat my ass of in 90 degree heat with no electricity. I weighed myself 3 days later before I had my first real meal and i had lost 15 pounds. But I gained it right back once i started eating and drinking more regularly and did less out side work got the generators running and ac back on etc.
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last year, first time in my life i picked up 30 extra pounds withing 3 month - i admit i was stuffing my self 2.5 times a day without much exercise. it took me 6 month without extra effort, organically get to my normal range just by back to my normal dieting. after that experience i won't believe fat can go away fast naturally maybe extra body water held up by sugars or salt but definitely not fat. btw in my life i consumed lots and lots of sugar - never been a problem with weight, only health issue sugar gave me are teeth problems.
everyone is different.
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everyone is different.
^^ conclusion of gfy study ;) some will get fat on diet soda while others eat sugar all their life and won't gain anything.
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A study conducted by the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio followed over six hundred people ranging from twenty-five to sixty-four years old for up to eight years and found that those drinking diet soda ? even as little as one can or bottle a day ? did not lose weight and were significantly more likely to become overweight than those who drank regular soft drinks or none at all.

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stupid study. Could it be that people that drink diet sodas think they can eat more stuff? Not necessarily sweets?

Math says if you go from drinking 3 cans of soda a day at 150 calories each to diet soda is a decrease in 50 pounds in a year. FACT. Now if one CHOOSES to be a fat lard ass and eat more because they drink diet sada then it's CHOICE. Not some sweetener "tricking" your brain. It's a CHOICE. If one eats the same diet they WILL lose weight. Math doesn't lie.

I see people order a double quarter pounder with cheese and super-size fries and a diet coke. Well yes they are still going to be fat. Because they CHOOSE to eat to much. If they'd stop drinking deit soda they'd be even fatter because they still order the same crap.

The fact is when "expets" tell you that your only choice is drinking water if you want to lose with then guess what, most people will just keep drinking regular soda. Is that healthier? Nope.
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I don't have a link but it's general knowledge I've lived with to not get fat.

For example you can get the skinniest person that never gets fat and make them eat McDonalds everyday and guaranteed they will get fat because McDonalds food will never spoil, even after 5 years and you will never digest that food

If you eat something like an apple or any kind of food that will naturally rot then there is no way you can get fat because it can only stay in your body for so long before it has to recycle itself back into the earth.

So its very easy and you never have to read any food labels or count calories. Just ask yourself before you eat a food "will this food spoil/rot?" If the answer is yes then it is good!
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you essentially eat twice the volume of food that you would normally eat to compensate for the lack of sugar
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nope, i didn't stop drinking lol. I just stopped inhaling sugar. Try cutting out 1500 calories of sugar a day and see how much weight you drop over a month or two. I drank water but mainly diet drinks, same amount of drinks, just cut out the sugar.


Now I have dropped 15 pounds of body water before as well, did it in 3 days. I call it the Katrina Diet. After the hurricane pasted I spent 3 days with not a lot of water, and I sweat my ass off in the sun all 3 days cutting trees to clear the highway so we could get out. At night I sweat my ass of in 90 degree heat with no electricity. I weighed myself 3 days later before I had my first real meal and i had lost 15 pounds. But I gained it right back once i started eating and drinking more regularly and did less out side work got the generators running and ac back on etc.
I'm sure what he was saying is that when you decrease sugar intake, you also reduce glycogen stores, you body stores less water. It has nothing to do with how much water you are actually drinking... if you can't store it, you can't store it (or store less anyway). You simply piss it back out.
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