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pr0phet 07-05-2012 09:49 PM

India is nuclear. I'd be careful.

AdultKing 07-05-2012 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0phet (Post 19045919)
India is nuclear. I'd be careful.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

globofun 07-05-2012 09:55 PM

"I didn't hear the news, I did it. Sorry."

Fucking classic!

Good work.....and you are one crazy and funny mofo!

k0nr4d 07-05-2012 10:05 PM

As I said before - the enemy of your enemy is your friend. You should look into support from other people who have interests that align with yours, be it RIAA, MPAA, or even Manwin...

longdongsilver 07-05-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 19045933)
As I said before - the enemy of your enemy is your friend. You should look into support from other people who have interests that align with yours, be it RIAA, MPAA, or even Manwin...

Another guy with a big heart for all adult webmasters.....

You make the script that runs some of the biggest illegal tubes that steal the majority of money from adult webmasters.??

You then tell us Manwins interests align with ours??

WTF??????????

I can't believe what i am hearing on here.

I think some huge tube site is behind this entire thread.

AdultKing 07-05-2012 10:30 PM

One of our worst offender category sites is FileRose.com

http://stopfilelockers.com/filerose-...smell-so-good/

Everything is hosted there, nothing is off limits.

We're working hard on this one right now.

Porno Dan 07-05-2012 10:39 PM

Thank you very much for your efforts. Email me on ways I can help.

AdultKing 07-05-2012 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 19045961)
Thank you very much for your efforts. Email me on ways I can help.

Email sent. Thanks.

k0nr4d 07-05-2012 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longdongsilver (Post 19045938)
Another guy with a big heart for all adult webmasters.....

You make the script that runs some of the biggest illegal tubes that steal the majority of money from adult webmasters.??

You then tell us Manwins interests align with ours??

WTF??????????

I can't believe what i am hearing on here.

I think some huge tube site is behind this entire thread.

The vast majority of tubes are legal - full of sponsor content or bought content. Even the big tubes are buying up content licenses because it's cheaper to license the content then to get sued all the time (and almost invariably settle out of court for undisclosed sums). Just because you see a 30 minute video on a tube site does not mean that they don't have a license to use it or has not struct a deal with the owner of said content. Most webmasters are scared to even start using pirated content because they see all the ligitation happening. I'm not saying some tubes don't have pirated content - but while there are 100% legal tubes, I doubt there are any 100% legal file lockers (out of the ones that allow filesharing anyways).

A bigger issue is that people are using a sponsor's content without pushing that sponsor, and instead pushing dating or cams using their content. They are even using those sponsors bandwidth by hotlinking the videos. Why? When you are starting off a tube and need to dump in 20k videos out of the gate - it's alot of work and very time consuming to sign up to 500 programs and insert all the ads for 2000 paysites.

Now as for Manwin - if their bottom line is hurt by filelockers, and the bottom lines of content producers are hurt by filelockers, then interests ARE aligned - even if temporarily. Wars have been fought using that logic for millenia.

Paul Markham 07-05-2012 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19045660)
Sure looks like it. WHY in the hell didn't THEY do something like this instead of trying to become a STD Testing center?

You would think with all their legal minds somebody could have figured out how to do what Adult King is doing.

"useless" Yep, pretty much.

FSC...why don't you NOW reach out to Adult King and throw some support his way?

Or Fabian? Why don't you take some of your millions of dollars earned on your fucking tube sites and help Adult King?

He's done more in a few days than I've seen anybody do since all this stealing went crazy 4 years ago.

Step up FSC. Step up Manwin.

As usual...you're left behind.

The credibility AdultKing is gaining here is awesome. One man, not in the best of health is bringing down many of the file lockers and again, doing it much on his own. Fabian said he has a PR girl, I suggest he sacks her right now and saves the money or get one worth the money. The PR MW could gain hare is more than they gained from giving me $3,000 to shoot a scene. :winkwink:

FSC, well if you send them money, ask yourself why. They also have been left in the blocks and still stuck there. Xbiz and AVN, can also be included in the list of no shows.

AdultKing 07-06-2012 12:10 AM

FileRose, which I mentioned just two hours ago has now been terminated by Paypal.

I am working on LiqPay through my contacts at Mastercard/Visa.

http://stopfilelockers.com/filerose-...ell-so-good-2/

Please note, given the weekend is now here in Australia, there won't be too many shut downs over the weekend. There may be a couple tomorrow. We're still waiting for news on a huge one but I am unable to report on it until all the legal aspects are sorted.

Mutt 07-06-2012 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longdongsilver (Post 19045938)
Another guy with a big heart for all adult webmasters.....

You make the script that runs some of the biggest illegal tubes that steal the majority of money from adult webmasters.??

You then tell us Manwins interests align with ours??

WTF??????????

I can't believe what i am hearing on here.

I think some huge tube site is behind this entire thread.

gutless, if you have an issue with AK or Konrad have the nuts to do it under your regular nickname.

Konrad's script is just software, tube sites in porn were inevitable in the wake of youtube's success in mainstream. Konrad was smart enough to see that and created his tube script - lots of tubes and paysites who don't steal/allow 'user submitted' content use his script. when Konrad started selling his script he was no different than anybody selling TGP scripts - he didn't know how huge some of these customers who bought it were going to become. even if he terminated the license of the big illegal tube sites who use his script they'd have a new script in place fast, because they have the money to do that.

and IF some huge tube site was behind this I'd be ok with it, i've been saying for years that the file lockers are a worse threat than tube sites. just like geo-politics this industry is complicated - so yes sometimes 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' fits.

AdultKing 07-06-2012 12:29 AM

I think I annoyed the owner of FileRose.com, what do you think ?

http://stopfilelockers.com.au/wp-con...pissedoff1.jpg

I'm not sure if he's upset or not :upsidedow

Mutt 07-06-2012 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19046049)
I think I annoyed the owner of FileRose.com, what do you think ?


I'm not sure if he's upset or not :upsidedow

Unfortunately he is right, no matter how successful you are with your campaign against file lockers they're not going away - they will be pushed offshore using offshore processors, offshore hosting, offshore registrars - where there's money there's always a way. :Oh crap

But with your work if we can make them all look like rogue offshore criminals i think a lot of surfers will avoid them.

AdultKing 07-06-2012 12:39 AM

Another hour, another shutdown of Paypal processing.

http://stopfilelockers.com/filedefen...soft-software/

FileDefend were terminated this afternoon. Funds frozen for 180 days, no withdrawals, no transfers. No longer may they use Paypal.

Nautilus 07-06-2012 12:51 AM

Filedefend is the new record setting loser - Paypal account lasted for only 3 days :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

AdultKing 07-06-2012 12:53 AM

And another one bites the dust.

Great result here guys. FileGag had both Paypal and Payza/Alertpay killed just now. They are left without payment options at this time.

http://stopfilelockers.com/filegag-p...investigation/

This one was one of the hardest to achieve, it required two investigations and a whole lot of pressure on Payza.

AdultKing 07-06-2012 01:49 AM

AzureShare was cut off from Paypal today but they are using a reseller now

http://azushare.net/premium

so we're working to get the reseller cut off too.

Phoenix 07-06-2012 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19046059)
Unfortunately he is right, no matter how successful you are with your campaign against file lockers they're not going away - they will be pushed offshore using offshore processors, offshore hosting, offshore registrars - where there's money there's always a way. :Oh crap

But with your work if we can make them all look like rogue offshore criminals i think a lot of surfers will avoid them.

Direct from one of Paypals lawyers.
there is no more offshore.

you can run and hide...but the only way to be invisible is to be a fake person.
other then that..there is a clear trail to anyone with a bank account now.

AGS-17 07-06-2012 02:14 AM

Kudos to you AdultKing!

But in reality apart from two large hosts (Extabit and Turbobit) you did not manage to get PayPal suspended for any of the big ones.

Check this out:
http://planetsuzy.org/t269393-allowe...red-hosts.html

This is the list of real targets you should be focusing on.

If there's anything I can do to help, PM me please.

AdultKing 07-06-2012 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19046059)
Unfortunately he is right, no matter how successful you are with your campaign against file lockers they're not going away - they will be pushed offshore using offshore processors, offshore hosting, offshore registrars - where there's money there's always a way. :Oh crap
.

As of now I have successfully cut off Mastercard, Visa, Paypal, Alertpay/Payza, 2CO, Moneybookers, American Express and Diners Club payments from sites.

Paypal is the quickest to act because they have direct control over their service. So do 2CO and Alertpay/Payza, Moneybookers slightly less so but still quick.

Mastercard and Visa take time. The credit card company's brand risk team need to consult with the region, then the region with the bank providing the merchant account then the bank need to go back up the line. So it can take days to weeks to cut off Visa and Mastercard. However it's being done, as we speak 14 sites will lose all ability to process any major credit card, through 3rd party processors or their own merchant account.

So offshore is an option if you resort to Webmoney (russia) or Bitcoin or similar. The fact is that cutting off popular western payment options will kill these sites, they will simply run out of cash.

AdultKing 07-06-2012 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGS-17 (Post 19046124)
Kudos to you AdultKing!

But in reality apart from two large hosts (Extabit and Turbobit) you did not manage to get PayPal suspended for any of the big ones.

Check this out:
http://planetsuzy.org/t269393-allowe...red-hosts.html

This is the list of real targets you should be focusing on.

If there's anything I can do to help, PM me please.

I'm working my way through a very big list , some take time, some I am prevented by legal restraints or my agreements with others to publicize until they actions are completed.

Big sites will go down, mark my words.

Nautilus 07-06-2012 02:36 AM

Wow 1.6K already donated in less than a day. Now I feel like a cheap ass loser for not donating yet.

AK PLEASE add paxum - I do not have a paypal account, and do not even want one because of all those horror stories of them banning anything adult related. I'm sure RuthB will be happy to assist you to get your paxum account running in no time.

I also want to provide ongoing financial support of your campaign, and paxum has an option to set up recurring payments - it'll be way more easy and convenient than to send payments manually each week.

AdultKing 07-06-2012 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19046134)
Wow 1.6K already donated in less than a day. Now I feel like a cheap ass loser for not donating yet.

AK PLEASE add paxum - I do not have a paypal account, and do not even want one because of all those horror stories of them banning anything adult related. I'm sure RuthB will be happy to assist you to get your paxum account running in no time.

I also want to provide ongoing financial support of your campaign, and paxum has an option to set up recurring payments - it'll be way more easy and convenient than to send payments manually each week.

I want donations to be transparent and chipin was the only tool I could find that would do that. If somebody can come up with something better for me then I will implement it.

The donations are appreciated but I'm not begging for them. I was always prepared to fund this out of my own pocket, however some people wanted to contribute so I provided the best most transparent way I could find.

I appreciate everyone's support.

Nautilus 07-06-2012 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19046136)
The donations are appreciated but I'm not begging for them.

Of course you're not begging, I know it and never implied otherwise. But I WANT to help. And I simply do not have paypal account.

You can export your transactions report from paxum account and publish it weekly for transparency.

AdultKing 07-06-2012 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19046144)
Of course you're not begging, I know it and never implied otherwise. But I WANT to help. And I simply do not have paypal account.

You can export your transactions report from paxum account and publish it weekly for transparency.

Sorry I didn't mean to imply you thought I was, it's just I've not been entirely comfortable with the possibility of any accusation (as appears on some other forums) that I am trying to profit from such a serious issue.

I have a Paxum account that is already verified, but I have never activated the card so any donation would be swallowed initially by the card fee. I'll put a paxum button on the website and see what happens, assuming I can put one on where people can set their own amount.

AGS-17 07-06-2012 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19046130)
I'm working my way through a very big list , some take time, some I am prevented by legal restraints or my agreements with others to publicize until they actions are completed.

Big sites will go down, mark my words.

I sure am hope you are right for the sake of our industry, but so far nobody could pull it off and many folks tried. Word on the street is that PayPal might actually own a few of the largest one or at least hold a sizable stake in them.

AdultKing 07-06-2012 03:02 AM

Is it safe just to publish a special Paxum email address I created for my account to receive Paxum donations ? I don't know much about Paxum, other than I have a card which hasn't been activated yet.

AdultKing 07-06-2012 03:15 AM

I have just killed, thanks to Paypal, an Azureshare reseller that Azureshare was trying to use to get around their own Paypal termination.

http://Azushare.net

http://premium.vouchers2get.com/

Quote:

This recipient is currently unable to receive money.
So Azushare are now talking about Moneybookers and Payza... how little they know what's in store for them then :)

Nautilus 07-06-2012 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19046159)
Is it safe just to publish a special Paxum email address I created for my account to receive Paxum donations ? I don't know much about Paxum, other than I have a card which hasn't been activated yet.

I think it's safe, as this e-mail address will be visible anyway in the donation form. Or you can simply send your account ID to those who want to donate, to make sure it is not known to our adversaries. Please send it to me first :)

ModelsFirstAudition 07-06-2012 03:25 AM

This thread is a bit too long for me to see if this hasn't been posted yet, but just thought I'd add in that I've seen a filsharing site for sale on Flippa.com. Apparently it's one of the 3 biggest free file sharing sites out there. (it's item 2763431)


flippa.com/2763431-one-of-the-largest-and-most-valuable-file-hosting-site-on-flippa-w-huge-profits

AdultKing 07-06-2012 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19046179)
I think it's safe, as this e-mail address will be visible anyway in the donation form. Or you can simply send your account ID to those who want to donate, to make sure it is not known to our adversaries. Please send it to me first :)

It would be nice if Paxum had buttons where people could set their own amounts.

CurrentlySober 07-06-2012 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19046144)
But I WANT to help. And I simply do not have paypal account.

You dont NEED a paypal account - I dont have one either. I just entered the amount and payed with a visa card. Any visa / mastercard / debit even should be fine :)

AdultKing 07-06-2012 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModelsFirstAudition (Post 19046189)
This thread is a bit too long for me to see if this hasn't been posted yet, but just thought I'd add in that I've seen a filsharing site for sale on Flippa.com. Apparently it's one of the 3 biggest free file sharing sites out there. (it's item 2763431)


flippa.com/2763431-one-of-the-largest-and-most-valuable-file-hosting-site-on-flippa-w-huge-profits

Thanks for the heads up. I'll look into it.

Nautilus 07-06-2012 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19046191)
It would be nice if Paxum had buttons where people could set their own amounts.

They have the option "Do you want to let your customer change order quantities?", I think you can set a price of one item to one dollar, and then let ppl choose however many of those "items" they want. That's a bit awkward, but workable and pretty close to what you need - maybe a little bit of text under the button to clue people in will help to make it work seamlessly.

Three.Thousand 07-06-2012 03:37 AM

Why do most of those monkeys over at wj think that trying to stop people from profiting from others work, equals killing off piracy?
99% of them are there for the profits, not for the piracy.

Nautilus 07-06-2012 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModelsFirstAudition (Post 19046189)
This thread is a bit too long for me to see if this hasn't been posted yet, but just thought I'd add in that I've seen a filsharing site for sale on Flippa.com. Apparently it's one of the 3 biggest free file sharing sites out there. (it's item 2763431)


flippa.com/2763431-one-of-the-largest-and-most-valuable-file-hosting-site-on-flippa-w-huge-profits

Very interesting, thanks for sharing. I think it's sendspace.

Nautilus 07-06-2012 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 19046196)
You dont NEED a paypal account - I dont have one either. I just entered the amount and payed with a visa card. Any visa / mastercard / debit even should be fine :)

You're right, thanks for the tip. However, I still want paxum because of their recurring payment feature.

AdultKing 07-06-2012 03:44 AM

If anyone wants to donate via paxum you can send the payment to [email protected]

Thanks for any support I receive.

longdongsilver 07-06-2012 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19046047)
gutless, if you have an issue with AK or Konrad have the nuts to do it under your regular nickname.

Konrad's script is just software, tube sites in porn were inevitable in the wake of youtube's success in mainstream. Konrad was smart enough to see that and created his tube script - lots of tubes and paysites who don't steal/allow 'user submitted' content use his script. when Konrad started selling his script he was no different than anybody selling TGP scripts - he didn't know how huge some of these customers who bought it were going to become. even if he terminated the license of the big illegal tube sites who use his script they'd have a new script in place fast, because they have the money to do that.

and IF some huge tube site was behind this I'd be ok with it, i've been saying for years that the file lockers are a worse threat than tube sites. just like geo-politics this industry is complicated - so yes sometimes 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' fits.


Let's just make your post a little more concise...

I'm a tube owner.


Either that else you're another deluded moron. Illegal tubes cause far more damage. This can't seriously be doubted.


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