really... yessignals.com?

This has to be a given and should be ranked number 1. These file lockers can see every referral link and know where their traffic is coming from. They aren?t stupid and know what sites support them. Take the 5% that these sites webmasters make for every buy they send, and those sites will dry up.

Many are already using link anonymizers, or even adf.ly so theres no point in looking at the traffic sources.

Name. Address. All that's needed. End of. :)

lol :)
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Yes but if you can't see where your links are coming from you can't pay your forum owners :thumbsup Several large forum owners rely on money from these lockers to pay their server fees and such.

It is doubtful that any honest webmaster will hire gimme-website after this.

Let's not forget that every designer now does tube sites in portfolio. Any different then a filelocker? Filelocker is simply a bigger version of a tube site.

gimme is probably the worst at PR then I don't know... but she is just doing what every other designer is doing. Don't forget about that.

Can we stay on topic about the filehosts, please?

You have to admit, it (and other references to his employer) did make the sociopathic parasite stfu again.

Looks like Eric edited Robbies post to help Gideon Gallbladder. :Oh crap

Eric, all of the information Robbie posted is public info. Stop trying to protect that worthless shit stain. It boggles the mind why you let that bastard post here anyway. "Where the INDUSTRY meets" is GFY's motto. Not "where the PIRATES meet to throw dirt on those in the industry."

Perhaps you should change the motto in the header. :2 cents:

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Bumpin...

We have a number of people in the collaboration system on various levels of access now.

The team is growing, worldwide, by the day.

If anyone is interesting in getting involved icq me. 19051100

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I love bumping this thread...

Amazing the speed you have got this all setup and going strong AK.

Common sense tells you if it had they wouldn't be so anti and making excuses. They can live without File lockers.

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bump for AK

AVN published new article about AK and stopfilelockers:

http://business.avn.com/articles/tec...on-481641.html

Interedasting...

Great article. Be sure it gets posted on some piracy sites. :thumbsup

Just checking in everyone.

It's been a busy day full of meetings, we see FileFactory has stopped using Paypal, this is an announcement that we didn't think we could make until Saturday but it seems events have pre-empted us.

We have a number of people in the collaboration system now, feeling their way around.
Anyone else who wants to be included should let me know.

I'll be back online in about 15 hours.

Extabit found themselves a new billing company - it is called i-Koruna, never heard of it before. And they also accept VISA cards themselves now, through the payment form available at their site.

Nice to see you (or someone else) got 1hostclick's paypal suspended. They were pretty much illegal & definitely hosted a *lot* of equally illegal content.

As for filehosts becoming 'compliant', well, most of them will die off without the ability to pay uploaders. The only reason they have any traffic at all is because they pay uploaders, they essentially pay until they become *the* place for content. Once nobody uploads to them anymore, they will not have any income or any traffic, compliant or not.

I think a lot of them will begin using obscure, shady payment processors now, but I assume they will be more difficult to have suspended/removed.

Interedasting....

Letitbit is now using onlinedengi.ru for credit card payments. Never heard about them too - alot of obscure billing companies are popping up at those filehosts who lost paypal recently.

Well so far Paypal has been the most difficult to deal with of all processing companies - due to their enormous size, they were able to absorb whatever problems came along with processing for those file locker sites. Chargebacks, refunds, absurd amount of DMCAs and AUP violation complaints etc. You couldn't even complain to VISA because it was useless - obviosuly they would never suspend Paypal's merchant account because it's too big. Well, in theory that was maybe possible, but only in theory.

But those smaller billing companies are basically nobodies for VISA and they'll easily suspend their merchant accounts if annoyed enough by a steady stream of DMCAs and other complaints. Those smaller billers know that damn well and react nervously for each even a minor bitchslap from VISA. I bet many of them do not even fully understand yet what kind of "clients" those filehosts are and what amount of trouble they bring with them. They will however realize that soon enough and many of the new billing options that those filehosts found after paypal terminations will cease to operate too.

As a matter of fact, none of the file lockers managed to maintain an account with a billing company for a long period of time so far, or their own merchant accounts, after their paypal account was terminated. Amount of abuse is so huge it seems that nobody except for paypal can sustain it in the long run. Oron, filesmonster, uploaded.to, all lost whatever processing account they were able to find pretty fast. Whether the same will be true for all other filehosts now that most of them lost paypal remains to be seen, but I think it is only a matter of time until Visa and MC will terminate them all.

So basically, they reposted all the info already in this thread.

I was hoping to read their own take on the whole thing.

1400

Did i win anything? :helpme

No, especially since it was only 1350. ;)

I hope you're right then, that would be great if they are actually easier to get investigated than paypal accounts. I suspect some of the payment processors they are beginning to use are likely owned by the filehosts themselves. It wouldn't surprise me, I saw a couple of them try it once before.

They don't do this because a lot of the uploaded content was done by the owner(s). That gives them knowledge that the content was stolen which removes the DMCA protection. Not that it really matters because most aren't hosted in the US so they don't have to comply with DMCA anyway.

And after the File Hosts who pay uploaders, we can move onto those who charge for faster downloads.

Maybe the US Government will make an amendment to DMCA to draw a line between those who only host and those who share.

Bump to where this should be

Or how about services which charge for downloads of illegal content they actually don't have? (and then rebill the user heavily with 'extras')
sharingzone.net/?q=some+illegal+content+we+dont+have

Seems quite a few 'uploaders' are using this now instead of uploading. They make piracy blogs and send users to links such as the above.

How these services & the previously mentioned 'shady' cc processors exist, beats me.

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Who would actually trust these new billers with their CC information? That?s like trusting a file locker with your CC info.

John Doe joins file locker premium > file locker gives John Does CC and IP information to pirate > pirate joins site and rips content with stolen CC information > pirate post content on file locker > John Doe sees charge and does charge back.

I could imagine the above is happening right now. Ever wonder why you have so many charge backs? :winkwink:

file lockers are essentially like paysites. they got content and affiliate programs.
The more file lockers pop up (think paysites and rewind 10+ years), the higher the payouts get, the the shaving feature gets turned on, and the cross sales and card banging will start.