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SplatterMaster 08-01-2012 11:07 AM

Oron has had a month to transfer files and databases. If they did that or not IDK. Maybe they?ll just start new somewhere else. They?re probably doing business under a couple of other names already. Seems to be a standard for file lockers. When one gets into trouble, close it and open a new one.

19teenporn 08-01-2012 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19097937)
My guess Paul is that they are moving to some offshore hosting where they can stick a fiinger up to DMCA and other requests. I dont think they will just pack up because they know they can make a lot of money from what they are doing

Agrre. They are too big, they make too much money to just close doors and leaventhencash cow free out in the wild...

Paul Markham 08-01-2012 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19097937)
My guess Paul is that they are moving to some offshore hosting where they can stick a fiinger up to DMCA and other requests. I dont think they will just pack up because they know they can make a lot of money from what they are doing

That won't make any difference to their processing vulnerability. If it is the case, why take one lot of servers down are they moving those as well?

DominicFord 08-01-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19097359)
from the xbiz article:
Porn Guardian, incidentally, offers one creative solution that appears to be a moneymaker for some adult entertainment companies. Its Making Piracy Pay initiative works with file hosts to redirect illegal URLs to point to the legitimate files on the clients’ sites.

“We track traffic and sales, which enables us to quantify how much money is actually being lost due to piracy,” Ford said. “Plus, it generates sales for our clients from these would-be pirates. It’s an incredibly powerful program.”


But, but... freeloaders were NEVER going to pay for porn EVER, apparently? That's one hell of a quote, and would be extremely interesting to see the actual figures.

We are extremely proud of this program. The idea that freeloaders will never pay for porn is a MYTH. Does that mean EVERY pirate will pay for porn? No, of course not. Far from it. But our clients are seeing a lot of joins, and a ton of traffic, from the file hosting sites in our "Making Piracy Pay" program. The further intent of the program is to take the affiliate portion of the join and put it towards our monthly fee. That way these converted pirates are actually paying for our services instead of our fee coming out of the budgets of the producers.

We have a LOT of data that proves just how valuable this "pirate" traffic can be, and what kinds of users convert to legal users, which is very important as our clients need to prove losses in a court of law based on the existence of file hosts and tubes that distribute their files illegally. The actual data really shatters a lot of myths I think.

Having said that, I feel like the geeky set using usenet or die-hard torrent types will never pay for content. But your run-of-the-mill file host downloader will if there are no other easy options.

As people have often said here and elsewhere: make it easy, high quality, convenient and cheap to get it legally and people will.

Hit me up privately (pornguardian.com) for more information if you have any questions.

best,
Dominic

seeandsee 08-01-2012 01:44 PM

File Lockers in motion!

19teenporn 08-01-2012 02:19 PM

Kill filelockers!

AdultKing 08-01-2012 06:05 PM

Oron may spring up somewhere else, however the operators of Oron would be foolish to think that they are invincible.

ramzzy 08-01-2012 08:02 PM

depositfiles.com seems to be taking over.

AdultKing 08-01-2012 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramzzy (Post 19099069)
depositfiles.com seems to be taking over.

Really ?

Paul Markham 08-01-2012 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19098950)
Oron may spring up somewhere else, however the operators of Oron would be foolish to think that they are invincible.

Loss of trust. :upsidedow

Will cost them a lot.

19teenporn 08-01-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19099108)
Really ?

Love the sound of that irony.

You have something cooking!

AdultKing 08-02-2012 12:11 AM

We're working and chipping away at some of the larger players in this game. These larger sites take a lot more work, which is not as spectacular as knocking off dozens of smaller file lockers in one fell swoop.

There are many groups working to shut down commercial copyright infringement. The suit against Oron showed that even the biggest sites are vulnerable when you target their financial base. It's obvious that the freezing of Oron's assets, which was widely reported, was a highly effective strategy.

Triple-A 08-02-2012 01:23 AM

Here's to the continual freezing of Filelockers assets :thumbsup

AdultKing 08-02-2012 01:41 AM

Some recent Paypal terminations

Quote:

sharebee.com
filevelocity.com
giftshop24.net
premium4.me
bzlink.us
fileduct.net
multi-debrid.com
jumbofiles.org

We believe that all these sites have been terminated by Paypal in the last week. We do not believe any of them may process through Paypal again, however Paypal always deals with these matters on a case by case basis.

NOTES Copy Control does not claim responsibility for these or any other Paypal terminations. Many organisations work to deal with infringing sites. Some of these sites may have been reported earlier then re-reported as they continued to process with Paypal. This information is current at the time of publication and is subject to change.

19teenporn 08-02-2012 02:22 AM

Fucking loving it!

IanUK 08-02-2012 02:42 AM

It's great fun following this, Furk for example keeps giving 'premium features for free' basically because they keep losing their PayPal :)

Oron is back btw, still on Leaseweb by the looks...

kazbalah 08-02-2012 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie Gardner (Post 19027337)
After eBay bought PayPal, there was a period of time in which PayPal stopped handling hardcore porn. When this happened, I warned S.S. Crompton (the current publisher of Carnal Comics) about the change in paypal policy. He thought his x-rated comic books would not violate paypal's policy change. He was wrong, his paypal account was frozen so he could not get money out of it. Years later, PayPal went back to allowing hardcore porn.

Paypal does not allow pornography of any kind.

I setup a paypal account to test a new site im working on, i did a 1$ test payment - And my account was shut down within 24 hours.

Hey good luck adultking - I luv what your doing :)

LouiseLloyd 08-02-2012 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazbalah (Post 19099385)
Paypal does not allow pornography of any kind.

That's what I thought but pretty sure I recall seeing an email from freeones last week stating they now accept paypal?

Paul Markham 08-02-2012 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazbalah (Post 19099385)
Paypal does not allow pornography of any kind.

I think they exploit a loop hole of it being for a faster downloading service. Until Paypal comes out as strongly against piracy as it does for porn. It will be a drawn out fight.

AdultKing 08-02-2012 04:13 AM

We found this site today

http://www.officeproductkey.eu

Which just goes to show how blatant piracy is. This site was reported to us because apparently the site delivers customers download links from file lockers in return for their payment.

AdultKing 08-02-2012 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanUK (Post 19099367)
It's great fun following this, Furk for example keeps giving 'premium features for free' basically because they keep losing their PayPal :)

Just one of the several file lockers who keep springing back up with Paypal accounts they had on ice. Paypal terminate them almost as quickly as they come up.

Quote:

Oron is back btw, still on Leaseweb by the looks...
Can't reach Oron from the US or Australia.

Triple-A 08-02-2012 04:32 AM

or the UK :thumbsup

IanUK 08-02-2012 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19099450)
Can't reach Oron from the US or Australia.

Weird, it worked this morning for at least half an hour, I ran a traceroute as well and it traced to Leaseweb, but now it's dead here too as before.

Maybe I somehow had it cached.

AdultKing 08-02-2012 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazbalah (Post 19099385)
Paypal does not allow pornography of any kind.

Correct and Rapidshare have a lot of pornography, even illegal pornography on their servers. Rapidshare also accept Paypal. Things that make you go hmmm.

cybermike 08-02-2012 05:46 AM

I would say rapidgator is getting more love from the uploads

Axeman 08-02-2012 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybermike (Post 19099568)
I would say rapidgator is getting more love from the uploads

Agreed, seeing a ton more on Rapidgator this past month. Also Shareflare.

FoxtrotAlpha 08-02-2012 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 19100006)
Agreed, seeing a ton more on Rapidgator this past month. Also Shareflare.

Rapidgator seems to be one of the biggest which offers a pay-per-download system now.

Hopefully it finally gets targeted soon, they seem to have found a way to avoid all of this trouble.

adultmobile 08-02-2012 01:44 PM

Hey adultking I sent you an icq message but no replies what's the most correct way to contact you?

19teenporn 08-02-2012 01:45 PM

Bump for fun

halfpint 08-02-2012 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19099442)
We found this site today

http://www.officeproductkey.eu

Oh that site is very popular over here in the UK even with computer shops

BlackAndBlue 08-02-2012 03:40 PM

Bumping for more reading pleasure, this is too important a topic to see it buried.

JosephFM 08-02-2012 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazbalah (Post 19099385)
Paypal does not allow pornography of any kind.

I think it depends. You can buy a reddit gold account using paypal, reddit is not a pornsite of course but there's ton of porn in their subreddits (reddit.com/r/boobies, reddit.com/r/pornvids, reddit.com/r/metart and the list goes on and on) and the same goes for big image hosting sites like imgur.com that sell premium accounts via paypal and host lots of porn pictures that are then shared in sites like reddit.

Tumblr sells "premium" post via paypal and we all know tumblr is full of porn.

AdultKing 08-02-2012 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxtrotAlpha (Post 19100149)
Rapidgator seems to be one of the biggest which offers a pay-per-download system now.

Hopefully it finally gets targeted soon, they seem to have found a way to avoid all of this trouble.

No File Locker is immune providing it provides access to large amounts of copyright infringing content.

A part of the equation many file lockers have missed is that of brand risk to payment processors. Some seem to have bet their business against the brand risk that Paypal, Mastercard or Visa see as a result of processing transactions for them.

It really doesn't matter how much volume the file locker is doing in sales, if the overall brand risk to a payment processor is too high then they are vulnerable.

19teenporn 08-02-2012 07:48 PM

Keep it on top

pornmasta 08-02-2012 08:05 PM

on the ? oh yes on the top

AdultKing 08-02-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19100394)
Hey adultking I sent you an icq message but no replies what's the most correct way to contact you?

I'm on ICQ only periodically. If you can't find me due to timezone differences then try sending an email via the contact form on stopfilelockers.com

AdultKing 08-02-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19099442)
We found this site today

http://www.officeproductkey.eu

Which just goes to show how blatant piracy is. This site was reported to us because apparently the site delivers customers download links from file lockers in return for their payment.

This site has had it's Paypal account terminated.

Confined 08-02-2012 10:41 PM

Keep up the good work adultking you are fucking awesome!

sick of all these mother fucking pirates and indians posting locker links

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19100886)
This site has had it's Paypal account terminated.


AdultKing 08-02-2012 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Confined (Post 19100888)
Keep up the good work adultking you are fucking awesome!

sick of all these mother fucking pirates and indians posting locker links

Keep in mind we have a small group of dedicated people working on this behind the scenes in our collaboration system, so they are awesome too!

19teenporn 08-02-2012 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19100890)
Keep in mind we have a small group of dedicated people working on this behind the scenes in our collaboration system, so they are awesome too!

You guys fucking rock!

Axeman 08-03-2012 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19100886)
This site has had it's Paypal account terminated.

Great job guys.

blogsy 08-03-2012 06:26 AM

Another http://flyfiles.net/

johnnyloadproductions 08-03-2012 10:07 AM

Damn, all these file lockers site rips and payment methods are gone. Look like I just might have to pay for a site membership. LOL.

My latest: Jesse Loads Monster Facials
(I should add the above link warns of malware but it's fine, something happened to the network of servers from reliablehosting) Still worth checking out as there are some great facials on the site.

Bump.

Nautilus 08-03-2012 02:41 PM

Fileprohost.com lost yet another Paypal account this week (5th or 7th I just lost count), and finally gave up. This site is for sale on Flippa now:

https://flippa.com/2792349-1200-reve...-million-views

Fileuplo.de and Filehost.ws filelockers also lost their Paypal accounts this week. Filehost.ws cannot process payments at all ATM, they only offer premium memberships through several resellers.

Paul Markham 08-03-2012 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19101940)
Fileprohost.com lost yet another Paypal account this week (5th or 7th I just lost count), and finally gave up. This site is for sale on Flippa now:

https://flippa.com/2792349-1200-reve...-million-views

Fileuplo.de and Filehost.ws filelockers also lost their Paypal accounts this week. Filehost.ws cannot process payments at all ATM, they only offer premium memberships through several resellers.

We should club together, buy it with all the data and start suing the pirates. :thumbsup

$10,000 and they would probably take less, the first batch of letters would recoup this. :thumbsup

Axeman 08-03-2012 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19101940)
Fileprohost.com lost yet another Paypal account this week (5th or 7th I just lost count), and finally gave up. This site is for sale on Flippa now:

https://flippa.com/2792349-1200-reve...-million-views

Fileuplo.de and Filehost.ws filelockers also lost their Paypal accounts this week. Filehost.ws cannot process payments at all ATM, they only offer premium memberships through several resellers.

It's amazing how many pp accounts some of these guys had on standby. Glad to see PP knocking them down fast though when they come to light.

AdultKing 08-03-2012 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 19102188)
It's amazing how many pp accounts some of these guys had on standby. Glad to see PP knocking them down fast though when they come to light.

Once a site has been terminated by Paypal, additional Paypal accounts are very quick to deal with. All the delays are at the start of the process, where the site needs to be investigated.

Some sites have moved to Avangate, which is a software reselling platform based in the Netherlands but with offices in the USA.

Other sites have moved to 3rd party processors like PosOnline in Italy.

All of the above accept MasterCard and Visa.

Robbie 08-03-2012 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19102283)
All of the above accept MasterCard and Visa.

Keep pressuring MC and Visa...once you get them on board, it's all over for pirate sites.

MrDeiz 08-03-2012 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19102283)
Once a site has been terminated by Paypal, additional Paypal accounts are very quick to deal with. All the delays are at the start of the process, where the site needs to be investigated.

Some sites have moved to Avangate, which is a software reselling platform based in the Netherlands but with offices in the USA.

Other sites have moved to 3rd party processors like PosOnline in Italy.

All of the above accept MasterCard and Visa.

bastards :mad:

Paul Markham 08-04-2012 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19102324)
Keep pressuring MC and Visa...once you get them on board, it's all over for pirate sites.

Until they sit up and take notice this will be a hard fight.


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