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Not me, Iv never once used a file locker or a torrent, apart from Photobucket for my logos and other crap which I was playing about with at the time. I dident even know what the hell they were until I started to use GFY. ...Yes GFY has taught me lot lol specially on the darker side of things lol

Short answer is no. If they follow the rules of the game, terminate uploaders, seize their funds, remove all files uploaded, then their within the law and I don't believe there is an issue. If they're taking measures to stop the abuse of their system it shows their making the effort and a lot more legitimate than you make them out to be. As someone else pointed out...you will only see the illegal files as the legitimate ones will rarely be made public.


If they're not removing the links to the content that resides on file lockers then I would have to agree with you on that. However, You never said that. All you said was that they were a link shortening service being used by file lockers to generate additional content. You never said notices were sent to the link shortening website to have links pulled. Do you even have the legal authority to request that links such programs as windows or photoshop be removed? If not then how could you say that they didn't remove the links?



I never said they would nor that they had to. Again, file lockers can make the effort to prevent such content although they cannot stop it all. It is easy enough to scan the file name for questionable words.


I believe the point I have been trying to make has gone way over your head. I am not for nor against file lockers. I truthfully couldn't care. What I AM against is this:

1) Double standard - If a link shortening website is bad because they accept traffic from sites which promote piracy then any affiliate program which accepts traffic from any site that promotes piracy is also bad. You cannot rationalize it. It's the same.

2) The take down of a website which does its part to remove content and prevent it from coming back up. Any website with user submitted content is definitely open to be abused. That being said, if they are taking legitimate measures to fight piracy by employing some of the things I've mentioned earlier then they're doing their part.

3) I do believe that the one truly good thing that has come out of what it is your doing is the removal of child pornography. In that respect I would love to help you. I don't know if you have a way of alerting the local police and other agencies for child exploitation based on the location of the file host but that is a cause I would love to be involved in.

4) You come off as an adult business superhero. Well, maybe that is what people are labeling you as. The reality is that I honestly don't believe anything you've done has had an impact on our business at all. If you're out to help multi billion dollar companies earn more revenue then great. I doubt they've noticed an increase in sales since you've been doing this.

5) I would suggest you start targeting news group services. They're loaded with all kinds of porn, software, hollywood movies, tv shows, etc. they're cheaper than file lockers. $10/mo gets you unlimited downloads.

That is my :2 cents:

What address?

Let's start a poll with people we think because of their comments are broke failures living in Eastern Europe because they were forced out of the UK after 'the incident', after living as a criminal and spunking all the illegally gotten cash on drugs, sending their 'wives' out to work in a minimum wage job to cover the rent on their shack whilst driving a 20 year old car and begging on the internet for money. No accusations, thinking isn't a crime, or is it?

I nominate the following:

Paul Markham


Now Paul, if you want to fuck up a thread start your own. Don't troll in AK's excellent thread you cock.

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Personally, I just think it's ridiculous. Mostly because one tube = every file locker in the world. This site, and most likely AdultKing himself, makes money either directly off of tubes or sends traffic to programs that own or advertise on tubes. He's squashing ants and looking around at everyone to see if they're clapping while he stays carefully and completely silent about sites far, far worse in their effect on paysite owners.

It's also irritating because this dude has been heroing for 40 something pages while every overly loquacious nobody in the biz gloms onto this 'project' and pretends they're actually noticeable somebodies doing something to 'save the industry'. Same shit, different day. Heard it about newsgroups, TGPs, MGPs, then tubes, and it's the same cast of people studiously trying to pretend to be learned philosophers and saviors of 'the industry'. Not the EXACT same people, most of those particular guys are waiting tables or working at the auto parts shop now, but the same type of people. Do you know who's still around and still making big money from those days? The people who owned the tubes. It's not so much the campaign itself, it's the sheer small mindedness of it and how obviously it's not and will never be more than a PR campaign for AdultKing. A never-ending, sanctimonious, holier than thou method of staying on the front page come hell or high water. Markham and assorted others also mistakenly think they can get something from it, or at least be GFY fabulous for a while, or maybe they really do think filelockers are the reason they're barely scraping by lol.... You'd think GFY mgmt would be tired of seeing it by now. Normally I don't say much about what goes on here anymore, it's irrelevant, but irritation is a good motivation to post I guess...

Our contention is that a file locker that has terabytes of illegal and pirated material freely available is illegitimate. These are the sites we have been targeting. If you believe we have targeted a file locker that is legitimate then please let us know.



We have only reported link shortening sites that we have come across directly related to file locker activities as a result of our investigations of file lockers, the same goes to image hosts. If you have any examples of legitimate link shortening sites or image hosts that have been targeted then please let us know.

As for who we are authorised to act for and in what capacity we make reports, this is an operational matter and we do not discuss operational matters in public.

If a site has thousands of files, amounting to terabytes of content which is pirated or otherwise illegal then the site is not legitimate.


It may be the same, but we don't have the resources to deal with anything other than file lockers. The project is STOP FILE LOCKERS. As such we are not actively chasing other forms of piracy.

Name one legitimate site we have targeted.

I cannot comment as this is an operational matter and we do not discuss operational matters in public.

I've actually not said much other than to outline the project and report takedowns. If others want to make judgements about that then that's up to them.

As I have stated many many times now, the project is STOP FILE LOCKERS, as such we're working on file lockers not news servers.

Provide us with a few staff, legal support, financial resources and we'll start tackling illegal tubes right away.

No ? Why not, you don't have the funds to back up what you're asking or you're just not interested ? I've thrown down the challenge. If anyone wants to take it up, we'll do it.

Why not? For the same reason I'm not trying to ban gasoline and get people to go back to covered wagons. You're pissing in the wind, and you know it. That's number one. Two, I've seen about all the attention whoring I care to already right here in this thread. No desire to fund more of it and you have no desire to go after tubes anyway because your intentions are being fully realized without stepping up to anyone likely to do something about it.

Innocent until proven guilty and not the other way around. Have you tried sending notices to the file locker? Seeing if they've removed the content in question? Did you see if they terminated the user? If the content reappeared on the same link? You are not giving due process and make every single file locker as illegitimate.




Innocent until proven guilty and not the other way around. Have you tried sending notices to the file locker? Seeing if they've removed the content in question? Did you see if they terminated the user? If the content reappeared on the same link? You are not giving due process and make every single link shortener as illegitimate.

Great thing to hide behind.


How exactly is it that you know they have terabytes of illegal content. Do you have full access to their database and file servers to be able to accurately calculate and provide proof of your claim? Or is it merely an assumption you're making based on limited links you found through various resources? You know what..don't bother answering this question as I'll answer it for you:





So, you are finally admitting that affiliate programs who accept traffic from sites based on piracy are no better than those link shorteners (who you've been shutting down)? Great. It only took 50 or so posts from me to be able to explain to you the hypocrisy of some of the posts you've made.


As I have stated, You cannot use this excuse. If you were simply limiting yourself to file lockers then link shorteners wouldn't be losing their paypal accounts. You are simply picking and choosing which sites (not limited to file lockers) that you are going after. Don't try to dispute it. We've seen it. It's just unfortunate that the sites you're picking and choosing will have 0 impact on this industry.

We've never spoken but I like you. :thumbsup

I've seen you around lol.. I like the cut of your jib :1orglaugh

dig420 and notjoe: Your most recent replies stand on their own.

Just like all my replies have for the 15 or 16 years I've been doing this. Yep. You're not the first, you won't be the last.

You ARE the first one I've seen get away with such blatant bumping of the same ol shit daily though. Lensman is rolling over in his grave.

I think he is just waiting to hit it big by getting some big mainstream companies behind him. However, he branded the site wrong. Stop File Lockers is too specific. He should have gone with a more generic anti piracy name.

Maybe. More likely he just thinks this is good brand awareness for his name and the traffic will come rolling in when he launches something. Too bad for him the only guys with traffic these days are tube owners :1orglaugh

FileDownloads.org have been terminated by Paypal.

Nice :thumbsup

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How about you two go get a room?
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The best answer to upload monkeys' whinnings :thumbsup

Just throwing this out there as a hunch, and I could be crazy, but perhaps that is why File Lockers are the specific target.

Please try to keep up.

You would make a great republican. You contribute absolutely nothing except for draining AK's nut sack.

Anonymous fake nick says what?

Yup. You figured it out. I joined way back in 2002 and made thousands of posts just to prepare for this moment! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

if the shoe fits. :2 cents:

that's how all the biggest trolls work their multiple fake nicks.

This alone shows you have absolutely ZERO clue what you are talking about.

Take a specific niche like SE Asian porn, search the biggest tubes and you'll find sponsor uploaded videos, a few amateur clips and no more than a handful pirated videos. Now go on porn forums you'll find EVERY single video from EVERY site you can think of.

Tubes have a lot of generic traffic, the real collectors, the buyers, are downloading from File Lockers.

:2 cents:

No clue whatsoever.

Tubes are very manageable, and these days most tube site owners are working with producers. It's not a perfect world, but managing tubes is very easy. Managing porn boards and file lockers is a nightmare, especially if they try to hide the link by using symbols instead of letters.

I find it amusing that people who feel like we're pissing into the wind, or who don't really care what happens to file lockers or who think file lockers aren't a problem are so motivated as to post into this thread. That's a rhetorical question for anyone thinking about continuing this ridiculous debate.

File Lockers are without a doubt a major piracy problem and the Google transparency reports confirm as much. In the past few months 1039 rights holders have made takedown requests for almost 1 million URLs on Filestube indexed by Google.

The scale of the problem with file lockers is huge and it's been largely unmitigated until this year. We don't profess to have a perfect solution but we are doing our best to mitigate it.

One really must question the motives of the naysayers.

Haters and upload monkeys. But you know you are hitting them somewhere or they would have no reason to openly oppose what you are doing, especially if they didn't have a dog in the fight, as they all claim.

Rapidshare wants a crackdown on linking sites.

http://torrentfreak.com/rapidshare-w...-sites-120820/

Maybe they can share a double with Paul and Damian, that schtick is getting real old too. :helpme

That just goes to show you that you don't know what you're taking about. Take down a big tube or two and I bet you see a jump in sales. How do I know this, well, if you remember not too long ago when an ISP got hacked and xvideos went offline people noticed a jump in sales as soon as it happened. AK has been working on this for over a month and not a single person has come back and been able to prove an increase in sales attributed to the file lockers losing their processing.

Where is the proof that this is a fake nick?

Naysayers come with the territory when one takes up a leadership role- which is what they see you as having done.

That being said, you shouldn't respond to their reactions with hostility or in a dismissive manner.

If their issues are legitimate to them then they're legitimate issues.

Calling names (upload monkey) questioning their motives etc. is begging to have your operation come under the same scrutinity- presumptions, childishness and so on.

I mean, if you're leading a campaign which doesn't provide verifiable pecuniary advantages to your supporters, they're going to wonder what you're actually doing.

Take them down then champ.

If what AK is doing is useless why do you give a fuck, leave him the file lockers and you can take on the tubes big guy.

Please reply to this AK

Unless you can somehow link the Paypal email to a breach of Paypal's AUP or TOS I'm not sure we can do anything.

http://fileswer.com/premium.html

http://www.wjunction.com/101-affiliate-programs - atleast 5000 file hostings and 100+ new post intro thread everyday.

Fileswer.com was reported to Paypal a little while ago, we will follow it up again.

We know about wjunction and several other forums which we review regularly.

We send reports to Paypal regularly about these sites, some keep coming back with Paypal accounts they have had on ice, it's very much a game of whack a mole.

https://flippa.com/2805519-file-host...th-15k-traffic

uploaders crying.

http://www.wjunction.com/95-file-hos...3-1000-a-9.htm

Just following up on this.

We reported this site to Paxum on the 17th. The site appears to still accept Paxum.

We've sent a follow up to Paxum today.

He gives a fuck because AK is hitting him in is wallet. That much is obvious. No one would post as much as him in such a negative manner unless he was at the receiving end of an ass kicking. An honest person would have no problem with what AK is doing.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... it's a duck. :2 cents:

"Innovation in the cloud" lol. Is Gigeongallery their speechwriter now?

In the words that appear to the right of it.

Any more questions?


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Sweet. Thanks for your hard work AK & CopyControl! I think my stats went up by a 1/2 a sale today.

Did you find a new porn forum to post your links on or something?

Amazing how many who profess to have no dog in this hunt seem so butt hurt.

BTW DWB nice new avatar ;)

Good job AK :)