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alcstrategy 08-10-2012 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19114814)
I'm not sure what that has to do with the subject at hand. And also...most of those people who pull scams are the same kind of folks who have NEVER actually produced porn.

Those of us who really love what we do and are looking to create something that we think is really good...have no interest in trying to pull any stupid stunts.

And always keep this in mind...assholes and scumbags are everywhere. There are PLENTY of people out there who deliberately join pay sites and steal everything and then do a fucking chargeback at the end of the day.

As far as pricing goes...yeah, I guess people who weren't adults before the internet just do not understand how fucking cheap a $30 paysite membership with tons of videos and pictures is compared to how it was for decades before that when you had to first actually live somewhere that HAD an adult bookstore...and then you paid $50 for a single vid title with maybe 7 scenes on it. Or $5 for a magazine with 21 pictures in it.

Fuck that. The crappiest paysite on Earth is still a bargain in comparison. It doesn't give people any excuses to steal.

Its because you were implying people care how much goes into making a porno or whatever. Piracy is one way of stealing, meanwhile many companies basically steal by screwing over customers all the time. What's the difference?

Jel 08-10-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alcstrategy (Post 19114818)
Its because you were implying people care how much goes into making a porno or whatever. Piracy is one way of stealing, meanwhile many companies basically steal by screwing over customers all the time. What's the difference?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:error

krylon 08-10-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19113361)
No. I am successful. :pimp

I gotta say, even though i'm supposed to be on your ignore list, your reply was hilarious. No matter if you look like an actor in one of corbin fishers films.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

19teenporn 08-11-2012 01:32 AM

Killing filelockers.

ShoeBox 08-11-2012 01:45 AM

Stop the hate

Robbie 08-11-2012 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by krylon (Post 19115050)
I gotta say, even though i'm supposed to be on your ignore list, your reply was hilarious. No matter if you look like an actor in one of corbin fishers films.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I wasn't aware you are on my "ignore" list. Even though you look like...oh wait a minute, nobody knows what you look like. You're just another highschoolish "nickname" on GFY with no real credibilty. Sorry. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 08-11-2012 05:25 AM

It's amazing that on a forum in an industry which sells a product that can be pirated. so many seem to be so against fighting piracy.

Are they all wasting time telling us we're wasting time, or do they have a vested interest in piracy?

krylon 08-11-2012 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19115271)
I wasn't aware you are on my "ignore" list. Even though you look like...oh wait a minute, nobody knows what you look like. You're just another highschoolish "nickname" on GFY with no real credibilty. Sorry. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

wow. you got me there sherminator. I have more 'credibility' than you can imagine. I'm just not an attention whore like you, and the rest of your fag crew here. And don't feel the need to 'publish' all of my accolades on a forum. But you seem to think anybody really care's about your 'most successful year ever where you made half a million or so' Big deal. I seriously LOL'd when I read that post.

I really don't understand why you would want so much attention of yourself and that old fat grandma with downs syndrome that you seem to be in love with. Sorry.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Robbie 08-11-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by krylon (Post 19115517)
wow. you got me there sherminator. I have more 'credibility' than you can imagine. I'm just not an attention whore like you, and the rest of your fag crew here. And don't feel the need to 'publish' all of my accolades on a forum. But you seem to think anybody really care's about your 'most successful year ever where you made half a million or so' Big deal. I seriously LOL'd when I read that post.

I really don't understand why you would want so much attention of yourself and that old fat grandma with downs syndrome that you seem to be in love with. Sorry.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Off to "ignore" for you now. You have zero credibility. That post right there just showed me you're nothing more than just another jerk on here talking shit from behind a keyboard. Goodbye clown.

Robbie 08-11-2012 10:36 AM

Enough foolishness...

AdultKing, keep up the good work!

19teenporn 08-11-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19115667)
Enough foolishness...

AdultKing, keep up the good work!

Yes, please cut the crap everyone...

Paul Markham 08-11-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by krylon (Post 19115517)
wow. you got me there sherminator. I have more 'credibility' than you can imagine. I'm just not an attention whore like you, and the rest of your fag crew here. And don't feel the need to 'publish' all of my accolades on a forum. But you seem to think anybody really care's about your 'most successful year ever where you made half a million or so' Big deal. I seriously LOL'd when I read that post.

I really don't understand why you would want so much attention of yourself and that old fat grandma with downs syndrome that you seem to be in love with. Sorry.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

So many here claim to have credibility. And never prove anything.

But thanks for the opportunity to bump the thread. :thumbsup

krylon 08-11-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19115664)
Off to "ignore" for you now. You have zero credibility. That post right there just showed me you're nothing more than just another jerk on here talking shit from behind a keyboard. Goodbye clown.

Oh no! I'm on pretend ignore again..

krylon 08-11-2012 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19115886)
So many here claim to have credibility. And never prove anything.

But thanks for the opportunity to bump the thread. :thumbsup

Just don't feel the need to inflate my epeen like some of you do.
Especially don't feel the need to prove anything to you, the village idiot of gfy.

ShoeBox 08-11-2012 04:31 PM

Saturday Bump

davethedope 08-11-2012 05:43 PM

What if filelockers simply cut content producers in on the deal?

They're already paying affiliates a certain percent.

Redrob 08-11-2012 06:39 PM

Fuck the pirates and keep up the good work!

Paul Markham 08-11-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by krylon (Post 19115941)
Just don't feel the need to inflate my epeen like some of you do.
Especially don't feel the need to prove anything to you, the village idiot of gfy.

The retort of so many.

Broken record image here.

Nautilus 08-12-2012 03:19 AM

Badongo.com file locker is out of business:

http://www.badongo.com/

seeandsee 08-12-2012 04:37 AM

Cut the money source, and they are gonne!

19teenporn 08-12-2012 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19116481)
Badongo.com file locker is out of business:

http://www.badongo.com/

Another criminal bites my cock

Paul Markham 08-12-2012 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 19116514)
Cut the money source, and they are gonne!

That would bring so many down, it would make a difference.

DWB 08-12-2012 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19115396)
It's amazing that on a forum in an industry which sells a product that can be pirated. so many seem to be so against fighting piracy.

Are they all wasting time telling us we're wasting time, or do they have a vested interest in piracy?

It boggles the mind. It also lets you know what side of the fence everyone is on.

Even if you are indifferent or claim you don't support piracy, why would you post anything negative towards those who are trying to do something about it? They are all pirates and freeloaders, that is why. Quick to run behind the "prove it" mantra.

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Originally Posted by davethedope (Post 19116071)
What if filelockers simply cut content producers in on the deal?

They're already paying affiliates a certain percent.

They should have though about that before. It just may have worked and everyone wins a little. It's too late now.

DWB 08-12-2012 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19116481)
Badongo.com file locker is out of business:

http://www.badongo.com/

Well done.

Paul Markham 08-12-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19116577)
It boggles the mind. It also lets you know what side of the fence everyone is on.

Even if you are indifferent or claim you don't support piracy, why would you post anything negative towards those who are trying to do something about it? They are all pirates and freeloaders, that is why. Quick to run behind the "prove it" mantra.

You have to wonder why they waste time telling us it will never work.

DWB 08-12-2012 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19116947)
You have to wonder why they waste time telling us it will never work.

Because it threatens their income and/or all the free shit they have been getting for years, from software to music to porn.

BlackAndBlue 08-12-2012 01:49 PM

Agreed Robbie
 
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19114795)
When you have skin in the game and are actually putting your own time, effort, money, and risk into a labor of love...then HELL YES what Adult King is doing is fucking awesome.

A lot of this is related to the divide between content producers and those that have never produced content, IMO.

There are thousands of "adult webmasters" that only use content bought or aggregated (or stolen :P), and have never produced and created an adult video/photo in their lives.

I think that the elitist attitude of those that do not produce content, yet make their money from adult content miss the big picture:

Who is going to buy porn from a porn site that contains no current porn?

Stop treating content producers like they are far beneath you. Where are you gonna get the content you rely on to make money, if the producers can't produce, because they all go out of business due to piracy?

If you own a porn site, yet buy your content, then you SHOULD consider closing down the free porn sites as a win for you as well.

johnnyloadproductions 08-12-2012 09:39 PM

Makes me wonder what the ratio of content pushers to producers really is?

Paul Markham 08-13-2012 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19116960)
Because it threatens their income and/or all the free shit they have been getting for years, from software to music to porn.

That's what I suspect. They have an vested interest in seeing it fail. So they waste time trying to point out how piracy can't be stopped, won't be stopped and ridiculing any attempts to slow it down or stop it's growth.

The people trying to stop it are not doing anything to them, not asking them to help or contribute and unless they get benefit from piracy curbing or reducing it will have no effect on their business.

Axeman 08-13-2012 08:08 AM

Bump for another strong week of removing payment options from the file lockers.

mikke 08-13-2012 02:38 PM

bump bump, buuuump to theee tooop!!


thank u sir for ur attention to read this useless post :(

Captain Kawaii 08-13-2012 02:45 PM

Where do we report? I went to the stopfilelockers site and don't see anything direct. Just use the contact form? I found what appears to be, a biggie. I tried the form. Not working in FF or IE.

The site, http://www.sammyboyforum.com/index.php

DWB 08-13-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19117558)
That's what I suspect. They have an vested interest in seeing it fail. So they waste time trying to point out how piracy can't be stopped, won't be stopped and ridiculing any attempts to slow it down or stop it's growth.

The people trying to stop it are not doing anything to them, not asking them to help or contribute and unless they get benefit from piracy curbing or reducing it will have no effect on their business.

I'll be the first to admit it will never be "stopped." It has always been here, it always will be. So that I want to be clear. No one will stop piracy. However, it can be contained to a manageable point.

Alex911 08-13-2012 02:49 PM

I think the reason Paypal is reluctant to take actions against FileLockers as a whole is that it would highly profit to their competitors (Webmoney, etc) in terms of market share...

Paul Markham 08-13-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19118608)
I'll be the first to admit it will never be "stopped." It has always been here, it always will be. So that I want to be clear. No one will stop piracy. However, it can be contained to a manageable point.

Agreed..

AdultKing 08-13-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex911 (Post 19118612)
I think the reason Paypal is reluctant to take actions against FileLockers as a whole is that it would highly profit to their competitors (Webmoney, etc) in terms of market share...

Untrue. Paypal's brand is more valuable to them than relationships that bring the brand into disrepute. They are extremely brand risk sensitive and have had no problem terminating relationships based on that sensitivity.

ShoeBox 08-14-2012 12:18 AM

tuesday bump

adultmobile 08-14-2012 04:54 AM

Definitely at the moment it is more popular the topic of Google will delist DMCA infringing sites. Even if that will just move traffic from google to other search engines, not reduce piracy.

Nautilus 08-14-2012 05:38 AM

Filestay.com lost their Paypal account (again) thanks to Met-Art anti-piracy team.

Nautilus 08-14-2012 05:55 AM

And yet another quality kill by Met AP - livefile.org can no longer accept payments through Paypal.

https://livefile.org/getpremium/mb

19teenporn 08-14-2012 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19119189)
Untrue. Paypal's brand is more valuable to them than relationships that bring the brand into disrepute. They are extremely brand risk sensitive and have had no problem terminating relationships based on that sensitivity.

hope that's the total true

Paul Markham 08-14-2012 07:16 AM

More Indians won't be eating this week. LOL

Axeman 08-14-2012 08:19 AM

Met-Art AP is on fire. Great start to the week.

inthecrack 08-14-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19119189)
Untrue. Paypal's brand is more valuable to them than relationships that bring the brand into disrepute. They are extremely brand risk sensitive and have had no problem terminating relationships based on that sensitivity.

That being the case, what is it going to take for Paypal to just eliminate processing for all file lockers. They seem to have had no qualms about putting a blanket ban on all legit adult sites so why not on the far worse cousin? If they deny knowledge of the file locker's primary purpose for existence then maybe they really do secretly want to keep some of that dirty money.

inthecrack 08-14-2012 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19117369)
Makes me wonder what the ratio of content pushers to producers really is?

I suspect 100 to 1 or worse. As an adult site with several hundred affiliates I have to assume that the average membership site might have as many as 200 active affiliates. Then of all the membership sites how many of those actually produce all their own content as opposed to buying their content? Maybe the pushers to producers ratio is more like 1000 to 1.

[Labret] 08-14-2012 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19119491)
And yet another quality kill by Met AP - livefile.org can no longer accept payments through Paypal.

https://livefile.org/getpremium/mb

Very nice.

Paul Markham 08-14-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19117369)
Makes me wonder what the ratio of content pushers to producers really is?

Would make a great poll.

Producers to resell.

Producers for self.

Traffic pushers.

Others.

AdultKing 08-14-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthecrack (Post 19119690)
That being the case, what is it going to take for Paypal to just eliminate processing for all file lockers. They seem to have had no qualms about putting a blanket ban on all legit adult sites so why not on the far worse cousin? If they deny knowledge of the file locker's primary purpose for existence then maybe they really do secretly want to keep some of that dirty money.

Paypal have consistently said they aren't going to disallow file lockers with their AUP. I disagree with them, however given the business model of sites like DropBox I can see their point of view.

The key here is to identify file lockers that deliberately take advantage of the DMCA takedown revolving door.

If a file locker is serious about cleaning up it's act then it can simply prohibit anyone from posting to warez and piracy sites, if it did that and deleted files placed on such sites then it would become very difficult for the pirates.

We'll act on any site which is seen to be supported by or promoting the use of their service by pirates.

johnnyloadproductions 08-14-2012 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19120179)
Would make a great poll.

Producers to resell.

Producers for self.

Traffic pushers.

Others.

Start it... just cross your fingers DamianJ doesn't hijack the damn thread... :1orglaugh

johnnyloadproductions 08-14-2012 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19120887)
Paypal have consistently said they aren't going to disallow file lockers with their AUP. I disagree with them, however given the business model of sites like DropBox I can see their point of view.

The key here is to identify file lockers that deliberately take advantage of the DMCA takedown revolving door.

If a file locker is serious about cleaning up it's act then it can simply prohibit anyone from posting to warez and piracy sites, if it did that and deleted files placed on such sites then it would become very difficult for the pirates.

We'll act on any site which is seen to be supported by or promoting the use of their service by pirates.

Well said.

Yes, these file lockers rely heavily on the revolving DMCA loophole.
In the heyday about a 1-2 years ago apparently some of the filelockers would simply delete pointers to the files and an uploader just had to reset them.


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