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Black All Through · 01-04-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

That sucks. I avoid these services like the plague, but Paxum doesn't seem to have all their shit together.

They started off pretty well and lost all their parts on the road, a service that IMO wont last that much longer if it keeps on screwing up, their ticket service is the worst ever.

anexsia · 01-04-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

chase bank was open on christmas?

I don't know about Chase, but my bank answered my questions on Christmas.

Lace · 01-04-2013, 04:24 PM

Gotta love Paxum.

/sarcasm

klinton · 01-04-2013, 04:43 PM

I use it, but Im tired of exchange rates set by their bank...I know thats not paxum fault, but it makes me angry every time when I lose 3 % extra on each transaction......

_Richard_ · 01-04-2013, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by anexsia

I don't know about Chase, but my bank answered my questions on Christmas.

so two possible banks open on christmas? the twilight zone!

EddyTheDog · 01-04-2013, 04:52 PM

The alternative for me is cheques that are a pain in the ass and cost a fortune to cash here or wait until I get enough for bank transfers - By which time I would have starved to death.

I keep the balance as low as possible - Which is not hard - lol - And I try to take out as much as possible in lump sums so I avoid fees. Its a bit of a juggling act but its better than the alternative.

EddyTheDog · 01-04-2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

so two possible banks open on christmas? the twilight zone!

My bank is open 24/7/365 - I think most of the UK banks are...

ladida · 01-04-2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RuthB

Our customer service department handles all incoming queries. Once the query has been received it is evaluated by a customer service rep and the next course of action is determined and then done. When that involves communicating with another department (accounting, tech, etc), we use our internal ticket system and email to ensure the best efficiency, and also to ensure that everything is properly recorded for future reference.

OK, a generic answer that didn't answer anything. "and the next course of action is determined and then done" lol what rofl. It's clearly not done if he's waiting this long.

We know you, the support people are located at your homes, and work from there. Where exactly is a phyisical address of accounting and tech then? They also work from home? If not, then they have to go to an office somewhere that has a phone that can be called when things are unanswered for this long, if by no one, then by the person doing the customer service.

suesheboy · 01-04-2013, 06:32 PM

The more I read this thread, the more I am amazed how anyone trusts this or any such service like this. Red flags all over this place as well dissatisfied customers.

Can't wait to say I told you so...won't be too long now...

Freaky_Akula · 01-04-2013, 06:43 PM

I still like Paxum, but I hope more programs start offering Redpass. Spreading the risk around is good for the affiliates and the programs.

Chris · 01-04-2013, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ladida

OK, a generic answer that didn't answer anything. "and the next course of action is determined and then done" lol what rofl. It's clearly not done if he's waiting this long.

We know you, the support people are located at your homes, and work from there. Where exactly is a phyisical address of accounting and tech then? They also work from home? If not, then they have to go to an office somewhere that has a phone that can be called when things are unanswered for this long, if by no one, then by the person doing the customer service.

Our support staff is not located out of their homes. The only remote employee's that work out of home are my self and ruth. Our primary roles are sales & marketing. We do not have any direct access to personal or sensitive data hence why we have a full support system in place.

Our main office is located in montreal canada where all the accounting takes place. In an office...with phones.

Ed asked to speak directly to our accounting dept and to keep things in order and handled properly we do not have our clients contact staff ( such as accounting & verifcation) directly. That is what our support dept is for.

I have personally reached out to Ed on icq to attempt to help him with his problem.

He answered me twice and that is all i've heard from him.

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As for "alot of warning signs" about us - GFY gets to see a couple complaints a month out of thousands of clients. If people looked you will see multiple times a day people talk about the great service we offer and how helpful we all...but as we are all aware this is gfy...that is not what gets attention. Drama is what gets the attention. Sensational thread titles get the attention. The post about people that have had no issues with us - or issues they have resolved in timely maner go unnoticed.

suesheboy · 01-04-2013, 07:03 PM

Your company is not a bank. Bad enough we have to have faith in goverments and economys, but to have faith in a company that you walk into a building or pick up the phone and speak to a person other than CS reps doesn't border on insane, it is insane.

EddyTheDog · 01-04-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

.......As for "alot of warning signs" about us - GFY gets to see a couple complaints a month out of thousands of clients. If people looked you will see multiple times a day people talk about the great service we offer and how helpful we all...but as we are all aware this is gfy...that is not what gets attention. Drama is what gets the attention. Sensational thread titles get the attention. The post about people have no issues with us - or issues they have resolved in timely maner go unnoticed.

I don't have an issue with Paxum - but I know you understand why people worry - I got this email this morning - What are we supposed to think?

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Hi,

It has recently been brought to our attention that Paxum has moved their banking operations to Romania. Since this move about 4 weeks ago, we have sent them 2 large bank wires which were not credited to our Paxum account. After being unable to get any answers from their support staff, we have no choice but to assume they are on the verge of closing down. Based on these events, we would highly recommend that you request your cash balance from Paxum while you still can.

Because of this situation, we are no longer able to pay you with Paxum. If you have any outstanding payments due from us, please log into your agent portal at http://www.internetmodeling.com/agents.htm and change your payment method to the other options we have available.

If you are unable to change your payment method, please email me as soon as possible to find an alternative. I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused. Thank you.

Best regards,

Janet Ross
Hiring Manager
InternetModeling.com

I assume its somebody overreacting - but when its my money you have I want to be 100% SURE!!

Lets see what happens in the next few weeks....

Chris · 01-04-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I don't have an issue with Paxum - but I know you understand why people worry - I got this email this morning - What are we supposed to think?

I assume its somebody overreacting - but when its my money you have I want to be 100% SURE!!

Lets see what happens in the next few weeks....

Hey Eddy ,
I can not speak directly to you about the client you are posting about as I'm sure you can understand but what I can tell you is that there is not any delay in our bank receiving funds. Matter of fact- after moving away from TravelX our load times have improved.

but again to point more attention to this thread ( that got over looked greatly ) that can help companies avoid any delays getting their funds to us - https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1095058

alias · 01-04-2013, 07:21 PM

Sounds legit.

AllAboutCams · 01-04-2013, 07:50 PM

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banking operations to Romania

Is this true

Sly · 01-04-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

chase bank was open on christmas?

Customer support likely was. People are out and about traveling. If someone has a frozen credit card due to fraud protection measures it would easily ruin that persons Christmas. Somebody needs to be on the other end to fix the problem.

https://www.chase.com/online/service...al-banking.htm

EddyTheDog · 01-04-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

Hey Eddy ,
I can not speak directly to you about the client you are posting about as I'm sure you can understand but what I can tell you is that there is not any delay in our bank receiving funds. Matter of fact- after moving away from TravelX our load times have improved.

but again to point more attention to this thread ( that got over looked greatly ) that can help companies avoid any delays getting their funds to us - https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1095058

Can you say if money in Paxum accounts will go through the Romanian banking system?

AllAboutCams · 01-04-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Can you say if money in Paxum accounts will go through the Romanian banking system?

i want to know this too

ladida · 01-04-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

Ed asked to speak directly to our accounting dept and to keep things in order and handled properly we do not have our clients contact staff ( such as accounting & verification) directly. That is what our support dept is for.

Yea ok, but your client support can't do this as well and uses "ticketing" because he's neither located where accounting is, nor can call them. This is where the discrepancy happens. Seems no one is able to contact accounting outside the "ticketing" system. So where exactly are they.

Chris · 01-04-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Can you say if money in Paxum accounts will go through the Romanian banking system?

Yes for awhile now (even previously to having and dropping travelX) we have used a bank in romania. This information can be found in your account by going to "Add Funds"

We wanted to give our clients more options so we added travelx and it was not working out so we switched back to our old bank.

Again i want to point out this thread - https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1095058 where I explain the importance of using our system properly to avoid any delays in getting funds.

EddyTheDog · 01-04-2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

Yes for awhile now (even previously to having and dropping travelX) we have used a bank in romania. This information can be found in your account by going to "Add Funds"

We wanted to give our clients more options so we added travelx and it was not working out so we switched back to our old bank.

Again i want to point out this thread - https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1095058 where I explain the importance of using our system properly to avoid any delays in getting funds.

I have had no delays in getting funds - However, I need to know what countries my money goes through.

Have I missed the email that told me that my money was being moved via a different country?

suesheboy · 01-04-2013, 08:57 PM

Romania...rock solid place I want my money at.

Can't even begin to know what their banking laws are like and how putting your money into Romania may have other legal implications....

brassmonkey · 01-04-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

Sounds legit.

it does?

epitome · 01-04-2013, 09:30 PM

I thought your original bank where wallet funds were held was a big bank in Canada? I seem to recall this being one of the reasons why people were to put their faith in Paxum.

Now money is being re-routed elsewhere which is what Epass did not long before it went under.

Killswitch · 01-04-2013, 09:32 PM

Wow, just read this thread and it's starting to sound a lot like the ePass situation. Glad I never gave this a chance.

brassmonkey · 01-04-2013, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

I thought your original bank where wallet funds were held was a big bank in Canada? I seem to recall this being one of the reasons why people were to put their faith in Paxum.

Now money is being re-routed elsewhere which is what Epass did not long before it went under.

i thought it was belize or something like that

epitome · 01-04-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

i thought it was belize or something like that

The MasterCard funds are through Choice Bank, but I could have sworn that they said wallet funds were in Canada. Maybe not ... hopefully they will correct me if I am wrong.

GonZo · 01-04-2013, 10:34 PM

Im betting Ed still has no idea about his money despite all the deflection going on...

EddyTheDog · 01-04-2013, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GonZo

Im betting Ed still has no idea about his money despite all the deflection going on...

I think its in Romania or possibly Belize or Canada and he has to ask his bank to ask the Romanian/Canadian/Belize bank for it back.....

Good luck with that.

brassmonkey · 01-04-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I think its in Romania or possibly Belize or Canada and he has to ask his bank to ask the Romanian/Canadian/Belize bank for it back.....

Good luck with that.

Heath · 01-04-2013, 10:57 PM

Epass Version 2.0... Same story. Different company.

Rockhound · 01-04-2013, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel

I miss Epass.

Amen brother

bean-aid · 01-05-2013, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

Romania...rock solid place I want my money at.

Can't even begin to know what their banking laws are like and how putting your money into Romania may have other legal implications....

Romania is the place that rocks the free world:

"Hello Beaner,

I saw the last thread and I've read this current one.

I repeat: I didn't steal anything from you!

I've build my website to offer almost the same services as you do since I saw a potential market.

(If you question yourself that a programmer can't replicate any website then you are delusional)

I know why you are upset, you are upset because until now you didn't have any competition in that niche and that's why you are throwing stones.

But this is not how you handle competition if you want no competition then you try to acquire competition. I've taken a look in the niche and I saw companies that offer desktop software for almost the same services. Are you going to go after them as well ?

If you want my domains you can say so, maybe we can reach a deal if you want to acquire your competition.

Just take a look at tube sites, what if only one tube would have a monopoly on all traffic?
If another tube site came he would try anything in his power to acquire.
Without competition we wouldn't even have facebook.

As a last warning, I'm telling you this: stop with the hate words because I don't like to get mad.
Just play this game fair! Or you are too afraid?"

AdultEUhost · 01-05-2013, 01:15 AM

romania, really?
how hard is it to open an account with a legitimate bank like chase, boa, barclays, hsbc, rbs, citigroup?

247mg · 01-05-2013, 01:24 AM

When we send to paxum using Travelex Global our wire also lost

suesheboy · 01-05-2013, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultEUhost

romania, really?
how hard is it to open an account with a legitimate bank like chase, boa, barclays, hsbc, rbs, citigroup?

That is the burning question.

With such high fees already, that can't be the issue.

klinton · 01-05-2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

Romania...rock solid place I want my money at.

Can't even begin to know what their banking laws are like and how putting your money into Romania may have other legal implications....

i'm pretty sure its more "rock solid" than Belize

Fat Panda · 01-05-2013, 10:15 AM

the issues raised in this thread are VERY concerning

TurboAngel · 01-05-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GonZo

Im betting Ed still has no idea about his money despite all the deflection going on...

He hasn't come on and said he got his $$ so you might be right.

SKUP · 01-05-2013, 10:52 AM

We also use Paxum and until today without any problems.

SwirlsGirl · 01-05-2013, 11:29 AM

Middle Men....you seem to keep having these issues because you fail to take a page out of the book from the best middle men in the industry....

The best middle men in the industry understand very well...that to have longevity and to earn trust...you must simply follow the golden rule of the ancient practice of middlemenry!

"Hold all excuses when passing the monies...and pass all the monies while holding the excuses" It's simple....its not your money to hold even though posession is 9/10 of the law...you are a middle man holder....

But you are holding the wrong thing...you are holding the monies and passing the excuses! Reverse it....

Pass those monies like they are hot potatoes....hold those excuses like they are gold coins exploding in value by 100% a week!

Again that is invaluable and priceless advice please do not disrespect or disappreciate me for trying to help you change your point of view...honestly just wish these things in the industry would resolve themselves but they seem to be getting worse.

GonZo · 01-05-2013, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel

He hasn't come on and said he got his $$ so you might be right.

I seem to have a track record for that.

seXXXhub · 01-05-2013, 01:07 PM

romanian banks are just like any other banks in the world .. they are just fine .. i dont understand why u guys are in panic mode ..

suesheboy · 01-05-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by seXXXhub

romanian banks are just like any other banks in the world .. they are just fine .. i dont understand why u guys are in panic mode ..

FDIC insured?

klinton · 01-05-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

FDIC insured?

yes they are issued by governement, but not by US one.... you know, Romania is not in USA, not in America, but in Europe ?

seXXXhub · 01-05-2013, 02:25 PM

they are as safe as any other banks from EU ... im talking from personal experience, there is no reason to worry .. it aint botswana or some belize crap

suesheboy · 01-05-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton

yes they are issued by governement, but not by US one.... you know, Romania is not in USA, not in America, but in Europe ?

Been there twice. Pretty, but not a place for my money.

Will all the euro and US economic issues, I still feel far more comfortable with US banks.

Validus · 01-05-2013, 02:57 PM

As a consumer it is important to understand where and how the entity is registered and licensed. To obtain card issuing licenses an organization must be licensed in the jurisdiction it is applying for issuing cards in. In some card issuing configurations there are 2 entities, the program manager and the license holder / BIN sponsor. The program manager runs the card program, interacts with the cardholders, and the license holder has the issuing licenses. This is a popular configuration, but doesn't necessarily require the program manager to be licensed (all depending on jurisdiction).

What I am saying is... look at both, the program manager and the issuer. It provides some more information. The BIN sponsor is usually clearly shown in the footer of the program manager.

klinton · 01-05-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

Been there twice. Pretty, but not a place for my money.

Will all the euro and US economic issues, I still feel far more comfortable with US banks.

the safest place is in none bank, just under bed ;-)

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01-04-2013, 06:43 PM	#110
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01-04-2013, 07:03 PM	#112
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01-04-2013, 08:57 PM	#123
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01-04-2013, 04:43 PM	#104
klinton So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: online Posts: 8,766	I use it, but Im tired of exchange rates set by their bank...I know thats not paxum fault, but it makes me angry every time when I lose 3 % extra on each transaction......

01-04-2013, 04:52 PM	#106
EddyTheDog Just Doing My Own Thing Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London, Spain, New Zealand, GFY - Not Croydon... Posts: 25,039	The alternative for me is cheques that are a pain in the ass and cost a fortune to cash here or wait until I get enough for bank transfers - By which time I would have starved to death. I keep the balance as low as possible - Which is not hard - lol - And I try to take out as much as possible in lump sums so I avoid fees. Its a bit of a juggling act but its better than the alternative.

01-04-2013, 07:21 PM	#115
alias aliasx Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 19,010	Sounds legit.

01-04-2013, 09:30 PM	#125
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	I thought your original bank where wallet funds were held was a big bank in Canada? I seem to recall this being one of the reasons why people were to put their faith in Paxum. Now money is being re-routed elsewhere which is what Epass did not long before it went under.

01-04-2013, 09:32 PM	#126
Killswitch 👏 REVOLUTIONARY 👏 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 2,304	Wow, just read this thread and it's starting to sound a lot like the ePass situation. Glad I never gave this a chance. __________________

01-04-2013, 10:34 PM	#129
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01-04-2013, 10:57 PM	#132
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01-05-2013, 01:15 AM	#135
AdultEUhost ORLY? Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NL & US Posts: 2,579	romania, really? how hard is it to open an account with a legitimate bank like chase, boa, barclays, hsbc, rbs, citigroup? __________________ ICQ: 267-443-722 / leon [at] adulteuhost [dotcom] Nominated for an XBIZ Award as "Webhost of the Year" in 2007, 2012, 2013 and 2014

01-05-2013, 01:24 AM	#136
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01-05-2013, 10:15 AM	#139
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	the issues raised in this thread are VERY concerning

01-05-2013, 10:52 AM	#141
SKUP Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 400	We also use Paxum and until today without any problems.

01-05-2013, 11:29 AM	#142
SwirlsGirl So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: between east coast and vegas Posts: 2,067	Middle Men....you seem to keep having these issues because you fail to take a page out of the book from the best middle men in the industry.... The best middle men in the industry understand very well...that to have longevity and to earn trust...you must simply follow the golden rule of the ancient practice of middlemenry! "Hold all excuses when passing the monies...and pass all the monies while holding the excuses" It's simple....its not your money to hold even though posession is 9/10 of the law...you are a middle man holder.... But you are holding the wrong thing...you are holding the monies and passing the excuses! Reverse it.... Pass those monies like they are hot potatoes....hold those excuses like they are gold coins exploding in value by 100% a week! Again that is invaluable and priceless advice please do not disrespect or disappreciate me for trying to help you change your point of view...honestly just wish these things in the industry would resolve themselves but they seem to be getting worse.

01-05-2013, 01:07 PM	#144
seXXXhub Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 628	romanian banks are just like any other banks in the world .. they are just fine .. i dont understand why u guys are in panic mode ..

01-05-2013, 02:25 PM	#147
seXXXhub Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 628	they are as safe as any other banks from EU ... im talking from personal experience, there is no reason to worry .. it aint botswana or some belize crap

01-05-2013, 02:57 PM	#149
Validus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,012	As a consumer it is important to understand where and how the entity is registered and licensed. To obtain card issuing licenses an organization must be licensed in the jurisdiction it is applying for issuing cards in. In some card issuing configurations there are 2 entities, the program manager and the license holder / BIN sponsor. The program manager runs the card program, interacts with the cardholders, and the license holder has the issuing licenses. This is a popular configuration, but doesn't necessarily require the program manager to be licensed (all depending on jurisdiction). What I am saying is... look at both, the program manager and the issuer. It provides some more information. The BIN sponsor is usually clearly shown in the footer of the program manager.