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Old 05-30-2013, 05:39 PM   #1
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I am thinking of going on a JUICE ONLY diet - any ideas re protein-rich veggies?

Anyone juicing here who can help me out with high level protein veggie intake into my juice recipe? Is it okay to add mango and pineapple to the mix?
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Every day I drink a blender full of collard greens, spinach, broccoli, mixed with a good Spirulina based powder. I mix in bananas and blueberries to neutralize the taste.

I always use bagged frozen veggies, because the nutrients are supposedly flash frozen -- while the fresh version loses its nutrients sitting out in the open. It's also cheaper also than fresh and takes up less space.
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LOVE this stuff and its Vegan

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There are no "protein rich vegetables." The most you'll get per serving of a given vegetable is 3 grams. However, they do make Vegetable Protein Powders. I bought some Pea Protein by Now Foods. It tastes disgusting on its own, but if you add some stuff to it like natural cocoa powder, almond milk, and cinnamon it makes it drinkable some what.

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also Hemp powder/seeds are high in protein
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The thing I put in the Vitamix every time I juice is kale.

Bananas are good in any veggie/fruit blend.
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I always use bagged frozen veggies, because the nutrients are supposedly flash frozen -- while the fresh version loses its nutrients sitting out in the open. It's also cheaper also than fresh and takes up less space.
Everyday I eat at least 1 usually 2 large salads with kale, spinach, assorted mixed greens and sliced onions, broccoli, celery, carrots, rhubarb, cucumbers and peppers. For dinner I put salmon, tuna or chicken on top.

I try to buy local fresh when possible vs grocery store. Either way I always end up with a weeks worth prepared and bagged or in containers. I have always wondered how much of it's nutritional value is lost after a couple of days in the refrigerator.

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There are no "protein rich vegetables." The most you'll get per serving of a given vegetable is 3 grams. However, they do make Vegetable Protein Powders. I bought some Pea Protein by Now Foods. It tastes disgusting on its own, but if you add some stuff to it like natural cocoa powder, almond milk, and cinnamon it makes it drinkable some what.

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Not true, asparagus, broccoli, watercress and most beans (although strictly speaking they are legumes) are very high in protein.
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Yeah, watched it on Netflix a few weeks back, got about 20 minutes in before that guys Australian accent and the shitty music he kept playing in his car annoyed me enough to turn it off and watch something else instead.
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Every day I drink a blender full of collard greens, spinach, broccoli, mixed with a good Spirulina based powder. I mix in bananas and blueberries to neutralize the taste.

I always use bagged frozen veggies, because the nutrients are supposedly flash frozen -- while the fresh version loses its nutrients sitting out in the open. It's also cheaper also than fresh and takes up less space.
i did this for 3 months, lost zero pounds... i cut out the sugar/carbs and i lost 40 in just over 30 days with minimal exercise (at the time, i go hard now) and have kept it off for almost a year...

what is with this place and juicing? The only juices that will help you lose weight are the veggie ones and most people can barely stomach those. Not to mention they will leave you starving being that its practically impossible to get enough fats or calories in this diet, which leads to organ damage and stalls fat burning in the process odd as it sounds.

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Everyday I eat at least 1 usually 2 large salads with kale, spinach, assorted mixed greens and sliced onions, broccoli, celery, carrots, rhubarb, cucumbers and peppers. For dinner I put salmon, tuna or chicken on top.

I try to buy local fresh when possible vs grocery store. Either way I always end up with a weeks worth prepared and bagged or in containers. I have always wondered how much of it's nutritional value is lost after a couple of days in the refrigerator.

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that's a winning strategy right there ;) I wouldn't sweat the lasting quality of the vegetables, it doesn't really lose much unless you over cook them anyway. Some have stronger health properties when cooked ie kale. I tend to hit the markets a few times a week as there is one on the way home but not easy for everyone i know.

I tend to go for the greek salads as they have more fats in them, feta as well. Cheese makes for a great calcium source. Milk is filled with sugar so tricky getting enough without it.
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Don't do something short term if you can't envision yourself juicing long term.

Any weight loss will be temporary. Try small lasting changes.
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that's a winning strategy right there ;) I wouldn't sweat the lasting quality of the vegetables, it doesn't really lose much unless you over cook them anyway. Some have stronger health properties when cooked ie kale. I tend to hit the markets a few times a week as there is one on the way home but not easy for everyone i know.

I tend to go for the greek salads as they have more fats in them, feta as well. Cheese makes for a great calcium source. Milk is filled with sugar so tricky getting enough without it.
Good, thanks … I don't cook any of the vegetables. A problem is buying even the smallest amounts goes real far when cooking for one even when I eat a lot. For dinner I use fish, chicken or cold sliced steak on top of the salad. For lunch I add low-fat cottage cheese or shredded cheese.

Weekends I tend to eat out but Mon-Fri I'm in the habit of eating very healthy since I can't workout like I once did.

Breakfast I have blueberries or a banana and a small bowl of cereal with a big glass of Bolthouse Farms Green Goodness.

Thanks for answering my question about the nutritional shelf life of the veggies!

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i did this for 3 months, lost zero pounds... i cut out the sugar/carbs and i lost 40 in just over 30 days with minimal exercise (at the time, i go hard now) and have kept it off for almost a year...

what is with this place and juicing? The only juices that will help you lose weight are the veggie ones and most people can barely stomach those. Not to mention they will leave you starving being that its practically impossible to get enough fats or calories in this diet, which leads to organ damage and stalls fat burning in the process odd as it sounds.

do this instead.. it will change your life..
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...UYM/edit?pli=1
Exactly. I did the Tim Ferris Slow Carb one which is similar. Never felt better.

Lean protein, veggies, salsa, eggs, guacamole, lentils (for carbs) and lots of water.

I got shredded in a month

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We juice these top protein contenders on a regular basis:

Asparagus, Cauliflower, Broccoli and Brussels Sprouts

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Not true, asparagus, broccoli, watercress and most beans (although strictly speaking they are legumes) are very high in protein.
You need to combine beans with rice or carb source to make a complete protein. It lacks amino acids to make it "complete"

This is some great stuff as well - http://www.fighterdietapproved.com/d...od_greens.html
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i did this for 3 months, lost zero pounds... i cut out the sugar/carbs and i lost 40 in just over 30 days with minimal exercise (at the time, i go hard now) and have kept it off for almost a year...

what is with this place and juicing? The only juices that will help you lose weight are the veggie ones and most people can barely stomach those. Not to mention they will leave you starving being that its practically impossible to get enough fats or calories in this diet, which leads to organ damage and stalls fat burning in the process odd as it sounds.

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...UYM/edit?pli=1
I don't know if its good for losing weight -- although I did -- but there's not much better stuff to put in your body than collard greens, kale, spinach or broccoli. Even if no weight is lost, there's a lot of other benefits to your overall system, whether it's digestive, brain or whatever.

By the way, there's tons of reading out there on the dangers of keto diets, but you won't find many people saying eating green is dangerous. Although for myself, I believe in keeping it balanced -- and I live for a good steak.
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I always use bagged frozen veggies, because the nutrients are supposedly flash frozen -- while the fresh version loses its nutrients sitting out in the open.

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Hmm I've actually always hear the opposite, that they have less nutrients than fresh. Why would fresh vegetables loose their nutrients? Except of course if they rot or something like that heh.

Edit: I read up on this, seems that the difference is neglible:

"In 1998, the Federal Drug Administration (FDA) published its official findings on the nutrition difference between fresh and frozen produce. The FDA found that, in essence, there is no difference in nutrition between fresh produce and frozen produce. Because of the nutrients that are lost due to most commercial food production of fresh produce, as well as the nutrients lost during the blanching and reheating processes of frozen food, the nutrient profiles of each are relatively the same."

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why on earth would you want to go on a juice fast? there is nothing beneficial from a juice only diet and many risks.

juicing is to get the micronutrients from fruits and vegetables,nothing more.
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Hmm I've actually always hear the opposite, that they have less nutrients than fresh. Why would fresh vegetables loose their nutrients? Except of course if they rot or something like that heh.
it's days from the farm to the shelf, nutrients are lost quickly during that time. many fruits and vegetable are flash frozen within hours of being harvested.


45 percent nutrient loss in grocer vegetables
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"In 1998, the Federal Drug Administration (FDA) published its official findings on the nutrition difference between fresh and frozen produce. The FDA found that, in essence, there is no difference in nutrition between fresh produce and frozen produce. Because of the nutrients that are lost due to most commercial food production of fresh produce, as well as the nutrients lost during the blanching and reheating processes of frozen food, the nutrient profiles of each are relatively the same."
gobs of research using new methods and data since then showing the opposite.

here are just a couple

http://www.mealtime.org/uploadedFile...is_april07.pdf

http://ucce.ucdavis.edu/files/datastore/234-779.pdf

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How about knocking out 90% of the carbs and get some exercise.
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This and what Dyna said are spot on. I never understood this fad whatsoever. What do you do when youre out and get hungry? Whip out the good ole blender?
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Thanks. I guess buying local is key if you want to avoid the frozen stuff then. Though the only reason would be taste... and that's usually easily fixed.
honestly, it's a crap shoot, there's a big issue here with the farmer's markets and the local farmers basically lying about their harvests.

also, soil depletion has taken some amount of nutrients out of the equation from the get-go, some areas are worse than others.

i would think a shotgun blast approach is best, mix it up, fresh + frozen, juice to get the max micro-nutrients, consider a natural vitamin supp.

microwave your vegetables.

many different fruits and vegetables. don't just stick with 1 or 2.
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honestly, it's a crap shoot, there's a big issue here with the farmer's markets and the local farmers basically lying about their harvests.

also, soil depletion has taken some amount of nutrients out of the equation from the get-go, some areas are worse than others.

i would think a shotgun blast approach is best, mix it up, fresh + frozen, juice to get the max micro-nutrients, consider a natural vitamin supp.

microwave your vegetables.

many different fruits and vegetables. don't just stick with 1 or 2.
What about "super greens" type powder stuff like I posted? Whats your take on those kinds of supps?
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What about "super greens" type powder stuff like I posted? Whats your take on those kinds of supps?
i like those a lot, i use amazing grass, amongst others.

i have to look to alternative fresh veg sources these days, due to a med issue, i'm under doctor's orders not to eat fresh produce of any kind.
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Thanks. I guess buying local is key if you want to avoid the frozen stuff then. Though the only reason would be taste... and that's usually easily fixed.
We buy fresh organic veggies straight from the farmers here. Fresh as you can get without picking it out of your own garden. About $6 gives us enough fresh organic veggies to last two of us a full week.
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Fruits and Veggies contain no protein.

Try various nuts / mushrooms / beans.
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This and what Dyna said are spot on. I never understood this fad whatsoever. What do you do when youre out and get hungry? Whip out the good ole blender?
You guys don't have juice or smoothie bars all over these days?

And to think, I thought I was living in a third world country.
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:53 AM   #42
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We juice these top protein contenders on a regular basis:

Asparagus, Cauliflower, Broccoli and Brussels Sprouts

http://FacesofJuicing.com
Do you guys have the Breville BJE820XL?
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:58 AM   #43
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Do you guys have the Breville BJE820XL?
That's the one. http://facesofjuicing.com/juicers/

Gene, to answer your other question, we also use pineapple (after removing the peel). We have used mango, but it is a PITA so very rarely (seed too big)
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:08 AM   #44
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why on earth would you want to go on a juice fast? there is nothing beneficial from a juice only diet and many risks.

juicing is to get the micronutrients from fruits and vegetables,nothing more.
1 cup of carrot or celery juice provides most of the same nutrients found in 5 cups of those same vegetables chopped up.

http://cancer.stanford.edu/patient_c...ngRecipes.html


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You guys don't have juice or smoothie bars all over these days?

And to think, I thought I was living in a third world country.
They have places like Jamba Juice and the poor excuse for a juice bar you might find in the Hard Rock. The only decent juicing shop I have ever seen was in an alley in London; but he had a very low quality juicer.
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1 cup of carrot or celery juice provides most of the same nutrients found in 5 cups of those same vegetables chopped up.

http://cancer.stanford.edu/patient_c...ngRecipes.html

exactly! tbh, i haven't been able to get into juicing but i need to.

maybe this is the thread that will get me to give it a whirl.
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exactly! tbh, i haven't been able to get into juicing but i need to.

maybe this is the thread that will get me to give it a whirl.
Our book should be ready to release on Tuesday. Our recipes are easy, nutritious and always tasty.






And we juice for one meal a day; no juice fasting . . . yet.

She is talking about doing that when she gets back from IN, so I might be forced into it by association.
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hah, i was thinking it must have taken quite a while to just set-up those pictures, they look terrific too eh.

i am a big proponent of fasting. i've fully embraced daily/intermittent fasting, a lot of documented benefits. but i am not up to speed on the juice fasting other than it being controversial.


good luck on that book too.
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You guys don't have juice or smoothie bars all over these days?

And to think, I thought I was living in a third world country.
Theres a huge difference between a juice bar shake and what the OP is talking about.
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http://juicerecipes.com/

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