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Old 05-26-2015, 12:29 PM   #1
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Aspiring Porn Model Challenges Society's Stereotypes Of Down Syndrome

Madeline Stuart is an 18-year-old aspiring model, and she?s here to challenge society?s rigid definition of what ?beautiful? is.

Madeline, who lives in Brisbane, Australia, has Down syndrome. She writes on her Facebook page that she believes ?modeling will help change [society?s] view of people with Down syndrome.?

?Exposure will help to create acceptance,? she says.

According to WPVI-TV, Madeline struggled with her weight as a youngster. Thanks to healthy eating and exercise, the teen lost 45 pounds Madeline now dances, swims and does gymnastics and cheerleading.

Madeline?s mom, Rosanne Stuart, said she hopes her daughter will inspire other individuals with Down syndrome to make similarly positive lifestyle choices. Studies have suggested that children with Down syndrome are more prone to be overweight

?People with Down syndrome can do anything,? Stuart told Buzzfeed. ?They just do it at their own pace. Give them a chance and you will be rewarded beyond your greatest expectations!

FULL STORY: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/19/madeline-stuart-teen-down-syndrome-model_n_7311136.html


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Your thoughts? Does Down Syndrome matter? Should she be treated just like anyone else wanting to enter the industry? Her mother supports it so it must be ok then?
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"Beautiful" is something that is innately engrained in our brains as it directly relates to finding a quality mate to further our genes and produce the highest quality offspring.. Beauty is universal and based on geometry and symmetry and proportions.... not political correctness or the baseless and unsupported proclamations of ugly people. No fit male that is a great candidate for mating with a beautiful female is going to look at a woman with Down Syndrome and think "I gotta have babies with her" not for many more thousands of years, at least.
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She actually comes off well in those photos in the article.
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"Porn" Model???
but hey you got me to click on the thread


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"I think it is time people realized that people with Down syndrome can be sexy and beautiful and should be celebrated," Roseanne said, adding that times have changed since Madeline was a baby.


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No fit male that is a great candidate for mating with a beautiful female is going to look at a woman with Down Syndrome and think "I gotta have babies with her" not for many more thousands of years, at least.
You can almost hear the sonic boom of several GFYers raising their hands in unison saying, "Naw, I'd tap that!"
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You can almost hear the sonic boom of several GFYers raising their hands in unison saying, "Naw, I'd tap that!"
I can almost hear the sonic boom of special needs "interest groups" jumping in to "protect" her from the "evil empire of porn".
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There are all sorts of models in TV commercials, all shapes and sizes...impairments etc..(although there needs to be more) modeling should be representative of society. But the term "beautiful" is pretty subjective and the vast majority of people have pretty fixed ideas of what is beautiful...locked in since childhood. Nothing is going to change there.

I think this girl could definitely get paying work but most likely only a downs dude will find her pretty.
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I think this girl could definitely get paying work but most likely only a downs dude will find her pretty.
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You wouldn't advertise them as Down's Syndrome or be exploytative in any way. Just promote them as you would any other model. I think it has potential.
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You can almost hear the sonic boom of several GFYers raising their hands in unison saying, "Naw, I'd tap that!"
I am not a huge fan of mindless praise. In fact, it can devastate a child's growth and development. Telling a child all day long how intelligent they are will cause them to slow down, take less risks, stop trying as they try not to expose themselves for being human. It actually lowers child's IQs. Anyone that is a great coach knows you NEVER praise ability or outcomes. You praise hard work and effort. Athletes, musicians etc stop growing when they start getting told how talented they are, as their brain shifts gears and focuses more on protecting that image other have, they stop reaching, they stop pushing to the point of making mistakes (a biological necessity for motor learning and skill development) and stop taking risks out of fear of being exposed for not being a great talent. What life awaits a woman who is not beautiful by any normal standard when she's being told she's beautiful every day? I would argue that it will ultimately be filled with bitterness, distrust, stalled interpersonal skills development and hostility towards a world that will never see her as she sees herself. It's not helpful. We are what we are. We all have shortcomings. We should all accept who and what we are and make the most of it... not strap a carrot to our forehead and call ourselves unicorns. It's like American Idol when they tell the kid that he can't sing at all at the audition and he's come rely baffled and confused and then gets angry.
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Personally I do not think that genetic deformities should be celebrated and eroticized. There is a reason that we have a sexual response/attraction to healthy individuals.

That reason is that they are more likely to be worthy of reproducing with as they display characteristics/traits of strong healthy genes and are more likely to result in strong healthy offspring to keep the species going.

Sure, it is politically correct these days to say that everyone is hot...overweight and clearly unhealthy people and people with genetic abnormalities/defects but deep down we all know the true - they are not.

I am sure just as with midget porn and such, that there is a certain "freakshow" factor that will lead to work for her in porn. Best of luck!
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Personally I do not think that genetic deformities should be celebrated and eroticized.
People with deformities and genetic issues celebrate and eroticize themselves! Why not give them a public platform to do that and make money? Hiding them away in a dark corner just furthers the social stigma people like you force upon them!
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People with deformities and genetic issues celebrate and eroticize themselves! Why not give them a public platform to do that and make money? Hiding them away in a dark corner just furthers the social stigma people like you force upon them!
Who is hidden in a corner? We can confront the tough facts of life and be brutally honest with ourselves and then make better decisions going forward .... "look, you have one arm, you won't be a world class gymnast .... let's focus on one of the countless millions of things which will interest you and which you can not only be great at, but that will give you great joy every single day you are doing it and lead to a happy and fulfilling life"
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There are alot of fine woman that has so slighy downs that they are hot...
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Has anyone ever seen real down syndrome porn? I dont think it exists. I seen quadraplegic porn once where both people were literally joined together using a series of straps and pulleys, but never someone with downs getting laid.
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People with deformities and genetic issues celebrate and eroticize themselves! Why not give them a public platform to do that and make money? Hiding them away in a dark corner just furthers the social stigma people like you force upon them!
I think you miss my point. I am not saying that they should be ashamed of what they are since there is not a time machine to go back and abort them. Which would be the ideal scenario.

I am saying that forcing them onto the world under the bullshit of being politically correct is only bringing down humanity.

We should celebrate health and fitness...not glamorize sickness, deformities, and other negative conditions such as obesity which only encourages lazy people to justify their choices.

What is next? Watching some cancer victim give head through her tracheotomy hole? After all, that is just allowing her to make money as you justify it.
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I think you miss my point. I am not saying that they should be ashamed of what they are since there is not a time machine to go back and abort them. Which would be the ideal scenario.

I am saying that forcing them onto the world under the bullshit of being politically correct is only bringing down humanity.

We should celebrate health and fitness...not glamorize sickness, deformities, and other negative conditions such as obesity which only encourages lazy people to justify their choices.

What is next? Watching some cancer victim give head through her tracheotomy hole? After all, that is just allowing her to make money as you justify it.
So you are anti fat porn? Heck homophobic people could consider gay porn a huge negative condition too
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I'm just shocked that someone posted a link to the huffington post - which by definitions means they actually read something from that joke of a skid-marked toilet paper.
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So you are anti fat porn? Heck homophobic people could consider gay porn a huge negative condition too
Yes indeed and using my logic to the ultimate conclusion I would have to agree.
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I'm just shocked that someone posted a link to the huffington post - which by definitions means they actually read something from that joke of a skid-marked toilet paper.
I don't read the Huffington Post. It's somewhat thin brained of you to think that because I post an article that came up in my feed based on keywords, that I regularly, if at all, read the content of the originating site. Strange response from you


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Nowhere in that link does it say anything about her wanting to get into porn.
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"Beautiful" is something that is innately engrained in our brains as it directly relates to finding a quality mate to further our genes and produce the highest quality offspring.. Beauty is universal and based on geometry and symmetry and proportions.... not political correctness or the baseless and unsupported proclamations of ugly people. No fit male that is a great candidate for mating with a beautiful female is going to look at a woman with Down Syndrome and think "I gotta have babies with her" not for many more thousands of years, at least.
well our brains also must tell us that if we're not beautiful ourselves that we have to settle for a mate who is within our own range of attractiveness - if we didn't ugly and average people would have become extinct long long ago.

there are very attractive men and women who choose mates that are objectively not as attractive as they are, for various reasons.
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"Beautiful" is something that is innately engrained in our brains as it directly relates to finding a quality mate to further our genes and produce the highest quality offspring.. Beauty is universal and based on geometry and symmetry and proportions.... not political correctness or the baseless and unsupported proclamations of ugly people. No fit male that is a great candidate for mating with a beautiful female is going to look at a woman with Down Syndrome and think "I gotta have babies with her" not for many more thousands of years, at least.
you are not "beautiful" by any measure but still are able to get laid.
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"I think it is time people realized that people with Down syndrome can be sexy and beautiful and should be celebrated," Roseanne said, adding that times have changed since Madeline was a baby.


The problem with her argument is that by any standards she is an attractive Red Head - Downs Syndrome or not...
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well our brains also must tell us that if we're not beautiful ourselves that we have to settle for a mate who is within our own range of attractiveness - if we didn't ugly and average people would have become extinct long long ago.
Our brains don't do that at all. For the most part, our brains are working overtime telling us that we are funnier than we are, smarter than we are, wittier than we are and more attractive than we are and better mates than we are. The fact that our brain is doing that is what increases our chances of finding a better mate. The only real honest feedback is from the world around us. When those things don't square well with each other, the individual tends to act out and blame others, become resentful towards others, tell himself others "don't get it" etc etc etc etc.


The truth of us in that respect is that we are insanely poor at assessing and judging ourselves and tend to work overtime to judge and assess others. This is another evolutionary trait which popped up with the rise of large cities and sedentary and agrarian societies, to keep people in line.

When it comes to mating, our efforts are the sum of our opportunities. Men and women have a sex drive. We think about sex constantly throughout the day. A person with bad genes has more opportunities with a similar person. A person with great genes has more opportunities with everyone. An ugly person can possess some traits that women find attractive and which tie in directly into the safety and survival of offspring (strong, fighter, leader, smart, outstanding social skills etc) and pull a hot woman. But that would be the exception, not the rule.

My point was simply that beauty is not some objective notion being shaped by greedy womens magazines and Hollywood as the hoards of fat, cunty feminist twats have been saying for decades. Beauty and even a shared understanding of aesthetic beauty are build into our genes and are generally universal. So just proclaiming a mentally retarded person "beautiful" won't change that simple genetic fact. All that WILL change is that people will pause a little longer and dig a little deeper for a socially acceptable response... which is most typically what happens in testing unconscious bias.
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you are not "beautiful" by any measure but still are able to get laid.
Men and women are not measured and evaluated in the same way by each other. Not even close. A woman has to have a nice body, nice hips/ass, nice tits, (ratios play a huge role) nice face, where again symmetry and specific spatial relationships are evaluated... all signs of great genes and a high probability of healthy offspring which will have a higher probability of survival, as will the mother, not be past menopause (which has physical cues) etc... a guy has to be able to fight, hunt, defend, lead, protect etc.

(talking about millions of years of evolutionary biology and the programs still running in our brains, not about last weekend and that dude that banged some chick)
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To clarify, my point was more in the sense of American Idol auditions where they have a kid that can't sing... but has been told by his goofy twat of a mother that he's the best singer ever since infancy.

When the judges stop him and inform him that he has zero singing ability whatsoever, he becomes confused and then angry and then starts ranting and raving that the judges don't know what they are talking about. His personal sense of self and understanding of himself will never line up with the perceptions of others and his life until he accepts that he can't sing and isn't awesome will be nothing but pain where there should simply be support for hard work, instead of a lie.

This girl and those like her are being set up for failure in the same exact way and the inevitable end result will be a lot of pain, confusion and anger... where they should be taught (as anyone should) to stand up and confront the truth as it is and deal with it,... not to create a fake, alternative reality and try to live in it.
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Men and women are not measured and evaluated in the same way by each other. Not even close. A woman has to have a nice body, nice hips/ass, nice tits, (ratios play a huge role) nice face, where again symmetry and specific spatial relationships are evaluated... all signs of great genes and a high probability of healthy offspring which will have a higher probability of survival, as will the mother, not be past menopause (which has physical cues) etc... a guy has to be able to fight, hunt, defend, lead, protect etc.

(talking about millions of years of evolutionary biology and the programs still running in our brains, not about last weekend and that dude that banged some chick)
i knew you would say that. but what is considered "symmetrical" and "proportional" and "naturally attractive" is bound by culture and history and anyone who would have had a wide and varied and education in history, art history, literature and science instead or reading some pop books on evolutionary psychology would know and understand that.
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i'm glad i clicked through to read the article, ya got me on the thread title blade!

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i knew you would say that. but what is considered "symmetrical" and "proportional" and "naturally attractive" is bound by culture and history and anyone who would have had a wide and varied and education in history, art history, literature and science instead or reading some pop books on evolutionary psychology would know and understand that.
You don't know what symmetry and proportional mean? You don't understand how a grossly asymmetrical and lopsided face or deformed body, obviously signals bad genes?

You can babble about the Renaissance all you want and talk about art... that has nothing to do with how the brain works,.. and though body types have clearly changed... preference for hip to waist ratios as a primary measure of attraction haven't. For example, Playmates 60 years ago and today had very different average body fat %'s... yet are identical in proportions and hip to waist ratios. I am very well versed in what I am talking about.

I did not use the ambiguous and subjective term "naturally attractive" - you did,
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i'm glad i clicked through to read the article, ya got me on the thread title blade!

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Honestly if you read the mothers quotes about her daughter like "Down syndrome can be sexy and beautiful ", and look at the sexually suggestive photos, it's clearly a veiled reference to pornography. One word substituted in my title, then reading the article, if you weren't looking for the word porn, clearly the subject matter was that she is sexy enough to be desired sexually: for porn
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Old 05-26-2015, 06:57 PM   #37
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Honestly if you read the mothers quotes about her daughter like "Down syndrome can be sexy and beautiful ", and look at the sexually suggestive photos, it's clearly a veiled reference to pornography. One word substituted in my title, then reading the article, if you weren't looking for the word porn, clearly the subject matter was that she is sexy enough to be desired sexually: for porn
i didn't read that from it. but i did just finish checking out the news that kylie jenner's nip almost came out during a provocative photo shoot so perhaps i'm just used to it the sexually-charged show your tits and get ahead kinda gal.
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You don't know what symmetry and proportional mean? You don't understand how a grossly asymmetrical and lopsided face or deformed body, obviously signals bad genes?

You can babble about the Renaissance all you want and talk about art... that has nothing to do with how the brain works,.. and though body types have clearly changed... preference for hip to waist ratios as a primary measure of attraction haven't. For example, Playmates 60 years ago and today had very different average body fat %'s... yet are identical in proportions and hip to waist ratios. I am very well versed in what I am talking about.

I did not use the ambiguous and subjective term "naturally attractive" - you did,
explain from a neuroscientific point of view how/why men have sexual fetishes based on female body types - from working in porn we know there are many men who desire fat women, morbidly obese bodies the vast majority of men would reject. others desire super skinny anorexic unhealthy looking women. for others it's old women, past their child bearing years. what's going on in their brains?
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She looks retarded, our society is retarded, so i wish her just good luck.
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explain from a neuroscientific point of view how/why men have sexual fetishes based on female body types - from working in porn we know there are many men who desire fat women, morbidly obese bodies the vast majority of men would reject. others desire super skinny anorexic unhealthy looking women. for others it's old women, past their child bearing years. what's going on in their brains?
Sexual fetishism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Although I read it and it's a very poor definition...
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You don't know what symmetry and proportional mean? You don't understand how a grossly asymmetrical and lopsided face or deformed body, obviously signals bad genes?

You can babble about the Renaissance all you want and talk about art... that has nothing to do with how the brain works,.. and though body types have clearly changed... preference for hip to waist ratios as a primary measure of attraction haven't. For example, Playmates 60 years ago and today had very different average body fat %'s... yet are identical in proportions and hip to waist ratios. I am very well versed in what I am talking about.

I did not use the ambiguous and subjective term "naturally attractive" - you did,
There are a shitload of fetishes that make no sense to generic straight sex. But this is what many people look for, so not entirely unreasonable that someone would be interested in her
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There are a shitload of fetishes that make no sense to generic straight sex. But this is what many people look for, so not entirely unreasonable that someone would be interested in her
I don't get it - She looks hot - Is it her freckly arm that makes 'no sense'?..
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Before banging, photographing, I would have a written opinion from a respected lawyer as regards "diminished capacity" and "exploiting" someone with any type of mental issues.

Is her signature even legal?
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"I think it is time people realized that people with Down syndrome can be sexy and beautiful and should be celebrated," Roseanne said, adding that times have changed since Madeline was a baby.


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Is her signature even legal?
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She looks retarded, our society is retarded, so i wish her just good luck.
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explain from a neuroscientific point of view how/why men have sexual fetishes based on female body types - from working in porn we know there are many men who desire fat women, morbidly obese bodies the vast majority of men would reject. others desire super skinny anorexic unhealthy looking women. for others it's old women, past their child bearing years. what's going on in their brains?
That gets extremely complex and speculative and things can also have multiple causes at once. It's actually something that interests me a great deal. Fetishes interest me but theres not a lot of reliable, published studies examining the brain and weird fetishes.

The first problem of our conscious thinking is that our brain is wired to identify a single cause and has an area of the brain fully dedicated to this. (i.e. "why did i get burned"... "the fire burned me" "therefore, done touch fire... and you won't get burned") but life today is infinitely more complicated than hunting/gathering and fucking and fighting and we tend to always overlook the feat that we live in an incredibly complex environment and for any action or behavior or event, there are multiple causes.

If you look at something like a foot fetish, where a male is turned on sexually by female feet, that's likely caused by something difficult to sum up. The short story is that your brain actually has a map of the body laid over one side of it in a strip which it references for a variety of reason (determining locations of sensations etc). It's just a jumble of physical features (right hand, left hand, lips, nose, left foot, right foot etc), not a picture of a body. The feet and genitals are located next to each other and a sexual attraction / or sexual stimulation relating to feet is most likely the result of and overlap/cross chatter in this area of that map. Conversely, disruptions in the signaling in those areas can cause conditions where you might not recognize your own arm as your own.... leading you to amputate it and not just amputate it, but know the exact line on your arm where you want it amputated (yes, thats a thing) because thats the only way your brain can escape the 24/7 chatter saying "thats not your arm... whos arm is that... why is that arm there... do something about that strange arm" and so on. (see image below)

Asking why a person likes a skinny girl or overweight girl, i would guess is like asking "why does he enjoy being shit on during sex" or "why does pain turn him on during sex" or any other sexual preference. It could be for a multitude of reasons or multiple reasons combined. There aren't usually clear answers to questions like that as they aren't typically the result of brain function/miswiring as much as influenced by environment/experiences/abuse etc. I used to love skinny girls because I grew up around very fat girls. All i ever fantasized about was skinny girls. Then you spend 2 weeks banging a bag of bones, and suddenly something else seems more appealing and tastes and desires move in another direction.

Exceptions to the rule however, do not negate the evolutionary rules which guide our behavior and which are innate to all of us.

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also, there is a neuroscientist named Ramachandran who has a book called "The Tell Tale Brain" that discusses this a great deal. Not fetishes, but things like the map, how your brain utilizes it, various disorders that occur with lesions disrupting signaling to and from etc. and its really fascinating.
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Jezus! Glad I'm not the only freak to notice that
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also, there is a neuroscientist named Ramachandran who has a book called "The Tell Tale Brain" that discusses this a great deal. Not fetishes, but things like the map, how your brain utilizes it, various disorders that occur with lesions disrupting signaling to and from etc. and its really fascinating.
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