thegoodwife

Hi guys,

I'm quite new to this and after experiencing all the platforms, I came to the conclusion that I want my own website.
Now I ask myself how. The design and technical part is not too problematic, got professional helpers for that. But I have struggled to find a payment processor that helps me to stay private, since I don't earn enough yet to found a Cyprus company.

But there is also modelcentro which in core offers everything I would need, but it feels like it's very outdated, their last blog entry is from 2017. That kind of looks like they stopped developing when OF came up.
Also, there is Centroprofits, the affiliate thing they got. However, that also seems to be focused on Fancentro. And do marketers use it?

So, no idea what to do now. Any tips welcome, for payment processors, Modelcentro alternatives or anything else that could bring me closer to my own page.

Thank you!

NatalieK

Modelcentro pay for your website on the first year, so grab your .xxx after signing up at modelcentro

you could look to have your own site on your own server, but it´s lots of stress, everything works well to use the platforms, the tubes & your own official site with MC


they´re part of centroprofits, so you can also sign up to a fancentro page once all set up with an official site at MC

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DVTimes

You can choose a few different sites layouts with modelcentro.

I have lots of sites with them.

As you may know, they provide hosting, site, payment system, and an affiliation system.

So basically all you need do is upload content, and have no worries about hosting or billing.

They also have a version of onlyfans too that you can use.

The only downside I see with them is when you set up fhg's they have it set so you cannot save pics from the fhg to use on a blog for instance.

I have a lot of affiliates promoting my sites, so sales are easy.

In truth all you need do is buy a domain name.

They also have a tip option too.

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thegoodwife

glad to hear! Actually already singed up, took a while till the admin released my post

The .xxx is super expensive after the year is over. Are there any benefits from it?
I'd planed to use my own .com and setup subdomains for a seo blog and a link page. Currently my main is just a link collection, link a more fancy linktree

plsureking

can you provide details? what do you mean "stay private"? if you are in the US or EU, its pretty easy to get a CCBill account.

the 4 MC sites listed on your blog say site under maintenance. videos not playing.

i wonder what decade your experience is from. its not this one.



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Maybe Verotel can be an option for you as a third party biller. I'm not sure if this is still their standard policy, but years ago when I first used them they would setup what is know as a "Stichting" under for you when creating an account. A completely legal entity under Dutch Law that would be registered under your behalf using their company address as an address of record. The only mention of your name, I believe, is as a record of ultimate beneficiary, but that's only in your account panel at Verotel. I have been inactive for years now but even today when I login it shows my Stitching for company info and my details as a contact and beneficiary.

Not sure if this is still the case but you may want to reach out to Verotel support and start the convo. Payment processing fees are about the same as all third party billers, around 15%, which they lower on volume.

Hope this helps.

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plsureking

yea its worth hitting up all billers because its really hard to get an account right now.

we've had about 10 site owners apply for Verotel accounts in the last year and did zero new account installs for Verotel. we did a few new site installs for old accounts, but it seems like new accounts aren't happening.

truth about them opening an EU biz for you tho. if you can contact them. it used to be better when Jason was the account rep. he jumped ship at the right time.

nearly impossible to get a merchant account right now. slightly less difficult to get a 3rd party billing account. i've had a few PornCMS clients who had to cancel in the last year because they couldn't find billing. if you aren't in the US or EU, its almost impossible right now.

and of course we can blame the cocksuckers at Pornhub for that

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NatalieK

you can use your .com, i was just suggesting to keep your .com for your own blog & images so you can link to these in forums, as your modelcentro official site, you want to keep as subscription only, therefore, not to have free content from there apart from the affiliate content...

having a .xxx will give you the edge to having this as your official site...

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thegoodwife

Private in terms that my real name does not appear to users anywhere

thegoodwife

my plan is to have

domain.com for MC so main page
links.domain.com for a own linktree
blog.domain.com for SEO and other stuff

So visitors of the sub domain can also easily find the main page but not vice versa.
Don't like the .xxx too much, way to expensive and has somewhat such a darknet feeling with it

DVTimes

Interesting.

I checked and all sites seem live.

Not one is set to under maintenance.

But i will contact them to question why this may be the case for you.

As for vids, i set the update option to not play vids but show screen shots. This is an option you can opt for. For me I find it converts better to ease people, rather than let them see the stuff free, but I may be wrong. I just feel it converts better when I opt for this setting.

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DVTimes

Personally, I would opt for .com as your prime, and with mc you can also add a second domain name. So you could add a .net for instance.

To me .xxx domains are poo and expensive, and too easy for countries to block, and all the things we were promised for .xxx seem to be one big lie.

My advice is always opt for .com as people type .com out of habit, and is looks brandable.

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DVTimes

From what some affiliates have told me they only tend to promote .com sites and avoid such as.xxx sites because the public see .xxx or such as less value than .com.

Over the years I spoke to webmasters about this who did not have .com sites, and they said as soon as they made there martensite .com then sales went up and they got more affiliates.

But this is your choice at the end of the day.

I would think about putting your blog on a separate domain name, just in case you opt for more mc sites, as this way you may want all your sites on a single blog.

I also think it would look best to view.

But again this is up to you.

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plsureking

the 3rd party billers will keep your name private (ccbill, epoch, verotel). merchant accounts want you to add a business name to your join page.

you will need a 2257 address in any case. ideally set up an LLC and a PO box if you are in the US.

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DVTimes

It is worth noting that with mc (and to be honest most sites these days) you will need ID for yourself and models you shoot.

I say this as not everyone has such as a passport and driving licence.

So with these things it is worth getting a passport just for ID use.

If you buy content you will need to make sure they provide you with a model release and ID for each model, or mc may not allow the content on the site.

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DVTimes

could you contact [email protected] and show them screengrabs as things seem fine for me in the uk

it may be a location situation.

thank you

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NatalieK

another great thing with modelcentro, you can create the FHG for the affiliates, then from here, they automatically go into a download package, so each set of photos can be downloaded from the centroprofits affiliate area, this for images used on social media linking to your site...

e.g : https://centroprofits.com/zipped-pac...model=NatalieK

here you can find clips & photo sets...


Just FYI that this can be done


once you´re set up on MC, your official subscription site with all your high quality content on there available to your fans, the clips site can be created from here too...

then, create your fancentro, this a timeline onlyfans style page...

you get all your payments bought into one payment, so your mc & fc subscription, plus the affiliate sales from centroprofits...

they convert it all and pay out all at the same time, message them to confirm the payments to be sent as one

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Alex CZ

Do you get any joins from this? Did model centro do your design and descriptions?

Hentacles.com
BhalaSada.com
AltDoll.com

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Hi TheGoodWife,

You will undoubtably get alot of advice from alot of different people so making the best choices for you could be difficult. To make things even more difficult for you, here is my advice.

- Use CCBill.com, Segpay.com or Epoch.com as your payment processor. Each will charge you about 14.5% per transaction, but they provide excellent services & tools and services. CCBill offers an affiliate program that can help you to get more traffic too.

- Build your own website on your own. It may take you more time, but the experience and knowledge you gain from doing this is invaluable. Start by downloading any number of free HTML5 Templates from places like https://freehtml5.co then go from there. Starting with a Template helps make sure that you get the look-and-feel that you want, and that your design always looks great on Desktop and Mobile devices.

- Choose your hosting provider carefully. You don't need a dedicated server. A small virtual server is ideal, and costs only a few dollars a month. I personally like https://tmdhosting.com alot. Or another alternative is to ask someone to spin-up a virtual machine for you at https://linode.com but while cheaper, it is more complicated to do.

Good luck!! If you need any assistance please feel free to contact me at [email protected]

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DVTimes

I also have bettastic.com (the bbc advertised this for me).

yes,sales via affiliates and the models posting on twitter or whatever social media they use.

I do sod all to get sales as i am too lazy.

the site design it one of about five (i think it is about five) you can choose and custom change. i just tweeked them, so you could probably do a better job.

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a small tip.

I promote many sites on mc, and the site that gets most sales is:

jenysmith.net

sample fhg:

http://jenysmith.net/r/oK3fvn3d/free...he-scene/mixed

and also this site gets good sales wouj.com

sample fhg:

http://wouj.com/r/mNbYb5Da/free-gall...m-babes/photos

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DVTimes

this is also decent advice.

the downside being you have lots of costs.

1. site design
2. payment (i think ccbill wants about $700 upfront in you are in the usa)
3. dedicated server (4k files are large and you will need a server with a lot of space)
4. hacking prevention 9you will need to have security to stop password sharing and brute force attacks)
5. somone to create your fhg's

however ccbill does have a easy way to set up an affiliate system.

you can cascade payment systems with ccbill

the downside with ccbill is years ago they updated there site from being fine to now horrible to use.

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DVTimes

one option too to consider is such as:

https://www.tacamateurs.com/

you can use them and just upload content.

a sample fhg:

https://www.tacamateurs.com/refer/my...6/000333/tgp4/

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DVTimes

I suspect your twitter page is:

https://twitter.com/TheGoodWifeXXX

the content looks very good.

i would have a think if it is worth posting nude shots as i often think once people have seen it free then no point joining. however others will put the argument that it gets you lots of traffic.

My thought is that it looks like you may be on the same lines as:

jenysmith.net

her twitter:

https://twitter.com/sexyJenySmith

clearly she or her team has done well and may be worth looking at her site and twitter for tips.

not showing her face may be a problem (as in the wife you have shot and posted on twitter), and people may not join if they cannot see her face. that is something to think about.

one small tip is if you plan on shooting outside in the wind, use a dead cat on your mic, or do not use the sound and dub music on instead.

it may sound silly but sound matters more than people understand.

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NatalieK

no, they do the design, like they did mine, their sites are powered by modelcentro but you add your content and descriptions...

here´s mine https://NatalieK.xxx



what the fuck is this waste of a site, the toys are not alien, they´re normal use vibrators & what the fuck is that trailer, it´s just it´s logo???

clicking through the pics on each movie, you don´t get any close up toy content, just bts, 9 mins of chatting??????

seriously Adam, what are you thinking making this site, it´s not tentacles or anything alien? the sex toys are normal to use??

and 2months ago you last updated to this site and all of the movies look the same model & same film????


you haven´t updated to this site, i thought this your main site, 10 months ago & then it goes back to a year ago????

were you not making any money on these websites? why would you just stop updating?



what is the point of a trailer video, it just shows a logo??? what is the point to this?

and again, the last updates were near on a month ago, a page of 8 or 10 videos all different angles & edits of the same girl in the same scenario, just wondering around naked in her room!



Seriously, not trying to be nasty here, but what do you think you´re doing?

You´d have been better to collaborate these sites, as they´re nothing on their own & even together, would you want weekly updates of the same movie from a different camera angle if you was the customer paying for this???

it´s daylight robbery!

I don´t believe you have any members to your site, i don´t want proof, just saying, you´ve not updated any of your sites for months, some near on a year!




Maybe quit spamming the forum and do some work, get a girl to work for you & give her half the profits...

#just daying my

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NatalieK

you don´t promote me, this because the problems and your differences between you & my partner...

however, you´d be saying different if you had or did promote my site #justsaying

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NatalieK

while a great idea to run your own site, as you remember, we had 8 membership sites on a dedicated server, 2 for other models, 6 for me with different niche & 1 for the cam studio...

while it felt good to run your own server, the problems and all the headaches are gone now i run on platforms & with MC as my official site...

everywhere is still my own content, i can delete all profiles, any thing i don´t like I can change, just no headaches...

We still have our ccbill account & use it for panty & dvd tangible sales


after maybe a year, if all goes well for Alicia, then they should consider maybe setting up their own paysite with affiliate program, but to miss out on a small percentage and know everything´s handled by MC 24/7, MC even design our banners, they do anything you ask on your own site as a personal touch!

Go centroprofits

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Alex CZ

And you have no problem with river of traffic leaks on this site?

https://jenysmith.net

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NatalieK

wow, you know why this has happened, I have my own blog & offer a link from my blog to these sites & other sites for links to my site...

I do have 3, but hey, rabbits reviews is usually a leak on every porn site

I also have the reviews go directly to the review of my site & not to lots of others


Jeny does make nice content, the updates are reasonable regular, once a week or sometimes twice, and it´s probably all 4k, something i´ve just started to shoot in. I notice no interactive content, POV selfies, dirty talk and all that, it´s all the same style, this could work for the site & could actually be better if she took a moment to do self shot for her fans...

I feel I can speak up & put my in about other models, not knocking Jeny, as above, saying about the content being high quality footage, but when my reviews are higher marked, i´m proud of my official site, pleased with Modelcentro & love what I do

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DVTimes

The site makes sales, so a few links at the bottom of a page that probably no one clicks does not worry me.

Most sites have leaks these days.

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DVTimes

You claim you have me on block, yet you can read my posts, this sugests you tell fibs.

And you Gary got banned on this forum for posting what was said to be underage content.

You also make money from your wife having unprotected sex with strangers, risking her getting aids, and if she still works with porn models who do not know the risks she takes, she is putting the porn biz at risk.

Plus your content looks dreadful.

So this is why I and most others do not promote your site.

I keep asking you not to reply to me as I do not want anyone to think we are connected in any way. I do not want to be associated with you in any way.

Pease I beg you stop posting replies to me.

Just spam your site begging people to promote it and leave me alone.

[I can provide evidence to my claims as Gary himself has admitted the above many times on this forum, so I am not breaking the rules.However I do not want Gary to change this post into making it about him. So do the decent thing Gary and do not reply to me.]

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NatalieK

wtf, it´s the same content or from the same scene as altdoll.com....


if you´re seriously saying you have separate sites & different content, i put it you´re a liar & a bad business man!


This is proven, not just me speculating!


Your content is the same room & the same model, you can´t make your once a month update from the same content to different sites hoping to make a sale or 2...


when i had 5 sites, each were, dogging and outdoor, indoor & me solo, gloryhole, fucking guys with parties & my fifth was my touring site...


you chat so much fucking BS! It´s ridiculous you´re allowed to sell content on these sites.

Like having an aldi, a sainsbury & tesco, all owned by the same person, difference is, their quality products



oh and watch your mouth... if you want a ban for lies!

he never did post underage, the thread was asking if the age of consent should be raised to above 18 as most or many 18 yr olds look like their 15 these days!


Simple, you know this & still play on it like a cunt!


You´re legit an arsehole if you´re selling 5 sites on your forums and saying to they´re all different as the content is the same & you´re not updating once a week, just yearly on some!

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NatalieK

I have to reply to your threads, when you´re giving advice to a new model who i´m helping & you give wrong information & advice!


To begin, you said Modelcentro do not give images out on their FHG´s...

this is BS, every FHG you create on MC, gives a downloadable folder of the images for affiliate use...


please stop advising people when you are not even creating work every week & not updating your sites. You´re not a model trying to make it alone, you live on peoples tax money & spend it on keeping a load of shit on the net!

You do still claim benefits, don´t you?

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NatalieK

struggling is something all creators do, and like in any EU country & most of the world, we do have to pay our taxes, also, VAT, something some maybe don´t but as always, the VAT man catches up with you in the end...

so, get an accountant & do pay your tax & Vat on income as you´re creating the content, so when selling it, vat does have to be paid on all the income from film productions of pornography, even in the UK

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NatalieK

show me any video on my site, where the content looking dreadful...

while knowing none of my vids do, and they´re all different, from amateur movies, different niche & selfshot fan loving pov joi handjobs & dirty talk.

Please post a link & I´ll either agree or disagree



still doesn´t change the fact you´re not updating your sites & when you do, you update the same scene on a few of your sites, in many edits to make your sites look like they´re updated... & they´re not

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NatalieK

What no one has yet to mention on this thread, here´s Alicia´s linktree...

https://linktr.ee/thegoodwifexxx

.com to be released shortly

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Fenris Wolf

Does ModelCentro have a restrictions on content, exclusive vs non, can I use my licensed studio content? I always looked at MC as a place for solo models to setup shop.

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NatalieK

this is the perfect place for you to set up models with their own official sites.

I know the content can be very open, pee, outdoors, public, parties & gangbangs,

no scat, violence & blood, this a good thing


Not sure about the licenced content, seeing other sites on MC, it seems ok as some site owners definitely update with purchased content, so message them, go to modelcentro now & message them...

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thegoodwife

calm down guys

It's about my privacy not about taxes, with regular EU company (non cyprus) i have no way to keep my real name out of the game. That's my concern.

About the VAT i don't agree. Don't know if you are taxed in UK or Spain, UK may be different. But Platforms like MC already collect and pay it depending on consumers location, what you get is just a commission from that already VAT taxed money.
Income from outside the EU (3rd countries) is not VAT taxable in most cases in general.
So if you pay VAT on all your income, i'd possibly get another consultant cause he possibly was too lazy to figure out all the details or has no idea.
Technically we also do not earn income from film productions, we are just selling licenses which is a very different thing in terms of taxes and taxability. But even that depends on the exact terms of each platform but i'd bet they all work with the commission on the license sell approach and you never have a direct contract with the people watching your stuff. Such a direct contract would be crucial to consider it as a film production.
Only exception could be customs that could be considered film production, but also that depends on the terms.
So yeah, paying taxes good and fine. But be sure to pay too much, goverments can't handle money!


Back to topic:
Decided to with MC since it's overall the best package since the cut the payment processors take is quite huge and so the difference is not worth all the hustle.

Thanks for the help & chill guys!

NatalieK

you can, many sites including MC keep your information confidential, so yes, they know but they keep your real name from public information.

including when purchasing websites & billing, again, you can put your porn name down for customer or business knowledge

sadly, yes, they pay vat & then you have to pay vat on the income you receive as it´s your content, ask an accountant, weve been paying vat & tax since 2020...

anywhere you are, the supply and demand of created content sold.

some sites will ask you for W8 ben, this usually US sites, they need to know where you´re paying your vat and taxes...

if you create the content, you film produce & whether you´re selling the content to business or customer, the world wide web sadly brings income into your territory and no matter where you sell, it´s where you earn & vat needs to be paid & the tax.

if in spain, we´re also paying autonomo, this is self employment, most months, about 300 each, but can do as a married couple or partnership, can be less money...

check it out with your accountant before you may, get behind on these things and then have lots owing

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NatalieK

when you´re all set up with your site, we´ll go into dvd distribution of your content too!

you can see mine here...

https://www.nataliekash.com/purchase...dvds-for-sale/

after we´ve got you with tubes, platforms, official site set up & your blog, then i´ll set you up with my distributor, have your content on dvd retail sale in the adult shops in the UK & Europe

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thegoodwife

Now, lets make this forum go law

I got some background on this and can tell you that your consultant is defiantly wrong. You should kick him... Reasons are what i mentioned above

Check for excample "Rs. C-695/20 – Fenix International Ltd." - EuGH, 28.02.2023 - C-695/20

There are a ton of other decisions with similar legal circumstances but not directly related to adult stuff. But this one is straight forward exactly for our case.

It's a decision from the highest European court, nothing in law is stronger then this - in europe.
It clearly states that onlyfans model do not need to pay VAT. Same is true for same reasons for virtually every other platform.
So if you payed, call your consultant and rescue what you can.

thegoodwife

People still buy DVDs? Awesome!

NatalieK

https://www.google.com/search?q=do+o...hrome&ie=UTF-8

sorry, but we´ve been in the business since 2005 & have always done it correct, we´re hoping to make it to the millions sooner than later, but it´s taking a while...

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NatalieK

they do, it´s not a big as it was, probably half the sales on my last dvd, but it´s still another income

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thegoodwife

not sure what to say, gave you the info you need. Use it or not, it's your money.

CurrentlySober

i lik .xxx

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NatalieK

sadly you won´t like .xxx CS, they´re not poo...

they´re pretty great!



gets all the adult approval from google & gives priority to many sites

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drexl

I know it wasn't the main question but :

If you sell directly to a EU consumer (B2C) you have to collect/charge VAT and then give it to the gov.

If you make a commission from a EU business (B2B) and that business is established in the same country as you, you have to collect/charge VAT and then give it to the gov.

If you make a commission from a EU business (B2B) and that business is NOT established in the same country as you, it is zero rated, you charge 0. The payer self accounts for the VAT in his country (reverse charge mechanism).

If you make a commission from a business outside the EU : it's out of scope, you don't charge VAT.


Income tax is a different one all together and it has to be paid on all income regardless.

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you admit Gary you posted a pic on this forum of a model you believed looked underage and got banned. I presume you have id for the model? if bot then she could be underage and you thought it a good idea to not only look for the pic but post it too.

so as you have stated this was why you got banned, then i have not lied as it is what i stated.

you stated this only a few weeks ago. do you wish me to post a quote.

your content looks bad on your blog and the trash you spam this forum with. it is my opinion and a opinion most have stated when you post it.

again you have been told this for years when you keep begging people to promote your sites and they do not.

notice i have not asked anyone to promote my sites as i do not need to.

you have stated many times you have blocked me yet you can read my posts. can you explain this because it suggests you lie about me being blocked and as such if that is the case, what else do you lie about.

i notice you turned this thread into it being about you and you spamming it with your links. are your sales so bad these days you have to spam.

also can you correct your lie about me.

i posted this:

you then said this:

you are referring to the zips.

zips are not fhg

my statement was correct

most people who want to promote a fhg will just select a pic from the fhg and not spend time dealing with zip files.

so my statement was correct as i referred to fhg's. can you admit you were wrong and i was correct

why do i have to explain everything to you gary?

anyway i will leave you to post your rubbish and spam

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