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Dirty D 12-05-2009 08:59 AM

Maybe Shoehorn will bring body guards to the show.

I hear all the shady ones are doing it.

escorpio 12-05-2009 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polle54 (Post 16617250)
You should have paid him on page two

Should have paid him before the thread was posted.

TurboAngel 12-05-2009 09:06 AM

Can't you all kiss and make up?

famous 12-05-2009 09:08 AM

i think you need to change your profile from:

Location: Paying Webmasters
to
Location: Paying Webmasters If I Want To

MoreMagic 12-05-2009 09:09 AM

Hear who says.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16617575)
Maybe Shoehorn will bring body guards to the show.

I hear all the shady ones are doing it.


katharos 12-05-2009 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16617575)
Maybe Shoehorn will bring body guards to the show.

I hear all the shady ones are doing it.

you mister asshole are the one who will be alone crying in corner. you are the one who is being ignored more with every of your post. you are the one who is losing respect, if you havent found that on the 10 pages already ...

Agent 488 12-05-2009 09:31 AM

this thread is getting dumb. everyone has wasted more than 440 in hours on it.

SuzzyQ 12-05-2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16617575)
Maybe Shoehorn will bring body guards to the show.

I hear all the shady ones are doing it.

look who is calling the kettle black.

gonzojoh 12-05-2009 09:42 AM

Bump for the honest affiliate. Dirty, stop being dirty and pay the guy. It's sponsors like you ruining the whole shit we're all into.

MoreMagic 12-05-2009 09:44 AM

I am a troll, I don't care. :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16617614)
this thread is getting dumb. everyone has wasted more than 440 in hours on it.


suesheboy 12-05-2009 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16617575)
Maybe Shoehorn will bring body guards to the show.

I hear all the shady ones are doing it.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh You bring new lows to being an ass monkey.

You and other sleaze balls are why the affiliate model will eventually fail for most.

By the way Google Adwords TOS on Trademarks is as follows:

We will not disable keywords in response to a trademark complaint.

Dirty D 12-05-2009 10:06 AM

I will type this slow for the ones that don't read so fast.
Cheaters don't get paid.

Today, I shut down a "chat" affiliate that was carding.

Waiting for the next whiny post about it not being in the TOS so he should get paid.

For Shady Shoehorn:
After lying about traffic sources, claiming traffic was from exits and such.
Then saying it was PPC but NOT the domain name
Turns out 3 PPC bids out of 27 are indeed the domain name and the only sales.
Shoehorn is still welcome to make $100pps on the remaining 24 PPC terms.

katharos 12-05-2009 10:15 AM

mister dirty asshole maybe 10 pages is not enough, so here is it short: you will be the one who will be crying alone in the corner. you are the one who is losing respect with every reply you made. you are the one who is being ignored by more and more webmasters. maybe you dont get it, but those 10 pages is full of webmasters who says that you are wrong, and not even one single webmaster who is supporting you, not newbie, not oldschool, not baller, not small fish ... i dont know if you are so old and your brain is so fucked up, but what you are showing us is someone who is closed in his world and not listening the the outside, where is everyone ... cheers fucker

Dirty D 12-05-2009 10:17 AM

www.CrackWhoreConfessions.com is converting at 1:276 first page uniques

www.GhettoConfessions.com has the same content for those that don't like the words Crack Whore

beerptrol 12-05-2009 10:18 AM

see sig........

MoreMagic 12-05-2009 10:18 AM

Let my type this slowly again for the ass wipe you are.

CARDING = ILLEGAL
PPC = LEGAL


Lol comparing Carding with PPC bids. You are just as stupid as you look like. Do I have a surprise for you soon ass clown.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16617659)
I will type this slow for the ones that don't read so fast.
Cheaters don't get paid.

Today, I shut down a "chat" affiliate that was carding.

Waiting for the next whiny post about it not being in the TOS so he should get paid.

For Shady Shoehorn:
After lying about traffic sources, claiming traffic was from exits and such.
Then saying it was PPC but NOT the domain name
Turns out 3 PPC bids out of 27 are indeed the domain name and the only sales.
Shoehorn is still welcome to make $100pps on the remaining 24 PPC terms.


MoreMagic 12-05-2009 10:19 AM

Only you probably don't get paid or saved your nuts off.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16617679)
www.CrackWhoreConfessions.com is converting at 1:276 first page uniques

www.GhettoConfessions.com has the same content for those that don't like the words Crack Whore


katharos 12-05-2009 10:22 AM

http://allcare.net/s2/images/angry21.jpg

BVF 12-05-2009 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16617659)
For Shady Shoehorn:
After lying about traffic sources, claiming traffic was from exits and such.
Then saying it was PPC but NOT the domain name.

Show the proof that he lied and you'll be in the clear......Dude, we're the only two legitimate people on THE PLANET who promotes crackhoes....I promote you and everything..Money from your site helped pay for the van that I'm now shooting my hoes in.....I'm begging you to PLEASE just swallow your pride and pay the dude....Fuck man you're fucking RICH.......WTF is wrong with you?

Carmine Raguso 12-05-2009 10:31 AM

Dood, pay this guy on the condition the thread is deleted. It's simple, regardless if he lied or not. It's $350. It's not extortion, the fact is that he sent sales to you and you accepted them and WERE paying him.

Fine and dandy, you found out what he was doing was against your ethical standards of sending traffic. D, it wasn't stated in your ToS. I have sent a shit ton on PPC traffic at a bunch of programs and got paid, and they were happy to receive it. No matter what, the surfer clicked and bought. He may have lost a bunch of money from members that were already established paying members just searching out your site because they are retarded and were looking for the entrance link.

Your program is awesome, and there is no doubt in my mind that this is not a money issue. This is an ethical issue and I commend D for sticking to his beliefs, but enough is enough. Pay the greasy fucking Hawaaian Erik Estrada glasses wearing faggot and be done with it.

On the same note, Shoehorn, tell your cocksucking faggot friend Chio to pay the people he owes. Oh wait, he is your friend and you don't get involved in other's affairs, but expect all of GFY to back you?

Faggot. :1orglaugh

will76 12-05-2009 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren (Post 16616868)
Oh no, lmao, this place get's funnier by the minute.

Yeah I was going to attend, but not now because Robbie might want to rough me up :(:helpme:warning:upsidedow:1orglaugh

DBS.US 12-05-2009 10:38 AM

http://www.nrmsc.usgs.gov/files/imag...butting_sm.JPG

will76 12-05-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16616924)
What does Dirty D have to gain at this point from paying Johnny Shoehorn? We have all seen this before. Dirty D. says: "Ok, I'll pay you"
And then it doesn't go away at all. Instead all these bloodthirsty nicknames STILL try to ruin his business. I can already envision the threads: "Oh, so now that Dirty D paid him all is forgiven? NO! He's still blah-blah-blah"

I think this has gone too far. Totally. And now I'm looking forward to Johnny coming to Internext and wearing one of those shirts and confronting Dirty D. I am also curious if Will is going to be there to see what happens as well. Should be interesting. I always wondered what would happen if somebody came face to face with someone else after the things that have been said on here.

I'm looking forward to it.

For the record, I like both guys. I've known Dirty D for many years...since BEFORE he had an affiliate program. I think he may have gotten pissed about the adword on his domain name. And instead of contacting Shoehorn and shitcanning him officially he went about it wrong.

And I think turning this into an attack on Dirty D's business is wrong too. Not that it matters because quite frankly no serious people give a shit about threads like this.

I was just amazed earlier on when people were going on and on about "marketing". It was buying a google ad word folks. That is NOT marketing.

I didn't say that Dirty D should or shouldn't have paid Shoehorn. I was addressing the morons who think they know this business.

By the way...reading the conversation...I can tell you why Dirty D keeps using the word "type-ins" Anybody that uses NATS can tell you that. ANY sale you get that is NOT an affiliate sale shows as a "type-in"

He's just saying what he sees the sale as. I see them that way too when I look at my numbers. Of course he understands the sale came from Google. Just sayin'....if you guys are gonna gang up and try to nail him to the cross, at least do it the right way.

I hope you guys get it worked out. But if not...it'll be entertaining as hell to see what happens if Shoehorn shows up at Internext.

JFK, get the cameras ready.

Oh the "gangster" days apparently coming back to GFY via Robbie. It's been a while since I've read any posts here if someone was going to be man enough to back up their insults on da message board. You know like calling someone who is acting like a fucking moron a..... fucking moron. Robbie gots to call us keyboard warriors out. He wants to know if we are man enough to call someone a fucking moron to their face... oh noes. that be gangster fighting words. You call some playas here a fucking moron you better watch out at the internexts, they might beat your ass down. Or in shoehorns case, an affiliate who is getting fucked actually stands up for himself. oh noes, he better watch out too, he might get his ass kicked for doing such troll things and disrespecting playas.... JFK gets yo camera ready bro!!!

robbie grow the fuck up dude please. If you or DirtyD can't handle a little criticism and some harsh words like "moron", then get the fuck off the interwebs and thicken your skin up. the fighting insinuations are so 90s, all adult webmasters are pussies don't you know that. 1000x things have been worse than to insult someone, and no one does nothing at the shows. People steal thousands from each other and then smile and take pictures together at the show. But yeah JFK get your camera ready for those bro pics lol .

xxweekxx 12-05-2009 11:09 AM

what a train wreck

will76 12-05-2009 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16617659)
I will type this slow for the ones that don't read so fast.
Cheaters don't get paid.

Today, I shut down a "chat" affiliate that was carding.

Waiting for the next whiny post about it not being in the TOS so he should get paid.

For Shady Shoehorn:
After lying about traffic sources, claiming traffic was from exits and such.
Then saying it was PPC but NOT the domain name
Turns out 3 PPC bids out of 27 are indeed the domain name and the only sales.
Shoehorn is still welcome to make $100pps on the remaining 24 PPC terms.

carding = google ppc :helpme:1orglaugh

sextoyking 12-05-2009 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16617702)
Dood, pay this guy on the condition the thread is deleted. It's simple, regardless if he lied or not. It's $350. It's not extortion, the fact is that he sent sales to you and you accepted them and WERE paying him.

Fine and dandy, you found out what he was doing was against your ethical standards of sending traffic. D, it wasn't stated in your ToS. I have sent a shit ton on PPC traffic at a bunch of programs and got paid, and they were happy to receive it. No matter what, the surfer clicked and bought. He may have lost a bunch of money from members that were already established paying members just searching out your site because they are retarded and were looking for the entrance link.

Your program is awesome, and there is no doubt in my mind that this is not a money issue. This is an ethical issue and I commend D for sticking to his beliefs, but enough is enough. Pay the greasy fucking Hawaaian Erik Estrada glasses wearing faggot and be done with it.

On the same note, Shoehorn, tell your cocksucking faggot friend Chio to pay the people he owes. Oh wait, he is your friend and you don't get involved in other's affairs, but expect all of GFY to back you?

Faggot. :1orglaugh

Shutup Boy - all you do is talk shit and play stupid..... Grown the fuck up...

It seems like alot of your posts have the word "faggot" in them.. Are you in the closet and have some kind of issue?

Do you have a problem with Gay ppl?

Wise up boy - this is a business, not a playground...

SleazyDream 12-05-2009 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 16617696)
Show the proof that he lied and you'll be in the clear......Dude, we're the only two legitimate people on THE PLANET who promotes crackhoes....I promote you and everything..Money from your site helped pay for the van that I'm now shooting my hoes in.....I'm begging you to PLEASE just swallow your pride and pay the dude....Fuck man you're fucking RICH.......WTF is wrong with you?

the fact that he is or isn't rich is irrelevant.

the fact that a deal's a deal is relevant.......

Fat Panda 12-05-2009 11:29 AM

Dirty D if your shitty fucking sites were converting you'd just pay the man, fact is you're are a broke mother fucker. Lets remember you send people to GFY begging for sales to get your pathetic ass out of jail, begging for 30 sign-ups, we all see right through you.

Any man who needs to beg for bail is fucking broke... I get it...Programs like yours are the reason this industry has taken a bath, gfy Dirty D, your responses here are fucking pathetic.

People that actually promote this fuckass program, show us your ratios?

SmokeyTheBear 12-05-2009 11:31 AM

shooting yourself in the foot for < $500 = silly.

I would pay the man before someone pulls a "robin hood" on your ass :)

2MuchMark 12-05-2009 11:34 AM

I have an idea that may solve this if anyone is interested:

DirtyD:
What if you were to payout the commission that is owed, but then follow it up with a note that due to your current (or revised) terms of service, that you will no longer payout on PPC? Wouldn't this end the problem, end this thread, make it easier going forward, and hopefully save what seems to be a good affiliate?

Also, I have a question for you (and everyone else). What is so wrong with PPC anyway? I can see where it may diminish your own ranking on SE's if an affiliate was using "your" keywords in this way, but at the same time, you would have to admit that the guy knows what he's doing, and Thank God he's doing this for you and not your competitor. Shouldn't he be rewarded for this? Of course, it might be cheaper to do what he is doing yourself, but you're not, and he is. And, there's no risk to you because he only gets paid on commission.

I'm not choosing sides, I'm just letting you know this is the way I see it. Despite the name calling, this is an interesting thread that people can learn from.

Shoehorn! 12-05-2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16617659)
I will type this slow for the ones that don't read so fast.
Cheaters don't get paid.

Today, I shut down a "chat" affiliate that was carding.

Waiting for the next whiny post about it not being in the TOS so he should get paid.

For Shady Shoehorn:
After lying about traffic sources, claiming traffic was from exits and such.
Then saying it was PPC but NOT the domain name
Turns out 3 PPC bids out of 27 are indeed the domain name and the only sales.
Shoehorn is still welcome to make $100pps on the remaining 24 PPC terms.

GFY rules say "Q: Someone really pissed me off. I want to slam them on the board. Is this cool?
A: First off make sure you have substance to do so. Show some proof. We all want to know who is dirty. And lets keep it Mono y Mono, leave the innocent bystanders out of the fray."

Please provide proof of cheating on my part. Bidding on brand keywords is not cheating, and nothing of it was or is mentioned in your TOS.

Everyone knows carding is not allowed, it is fraud and it is illegal, you can't compare that to a PPC campaign on Google.

In my email you asked about my traffic. I said it was primarily from Google, but that I also had banners for a couple of your sites up in rotation on sites that included my typein exit pages and free sites. I told you that I was not bidding on "crackwhoreconfessions.com", which as the screenshot shows is true.

I can't understand why you don't admit that you're in the wrong here, do the right thing and pay me. Unless you really don't have the money, in which case I am more than willing to work out a payment plan with you.

escoman 12-05-2009 11:41 AM

He paid for the PPC campaign with his money. You are stealing both his money and what he earned by spending his money on promoting your sites.

Robbie 12-05-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16617732)
Blah-blah-blah I'm trying to stir up shit and I don't really comprehend what I read.

Reading your bullshit tells me exactly why you are looking for a job. I'll make sure to put in a "good word" for you to everybody.

Shoehorn! 12-05-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16617865)
Reading your bullshit tells me exactly why you are looking for a job. I'll make sure to put in a "good word" for you to everybody.

I know you love to argue with people here, and that is fine, but will you keep it to another thread please?

If not for me, then for the next person who might not get paid what they are owed by Dirty D.

NetHorse 12-05-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 16616820)
526 posts about a broke dick program owner that needs to steal from his affiliates to stay afloat.



Don't promote howigotrich.com they steal from affiliates.



Don't promote howigotrich.com they steal from affiliates.

Lets get this going on every webmaster forum.

Bump, can't post links but it's going up everywhere. :2 cents:

ruff 12-05-2009 11:52 AM

I don't think I have ever seen someone sabotage their own program like this. None of this is about marketing, it's about tos and paying what you owe. This sponsor is doing a thorough job of shooting himself in the foot over no money. Yay for you. It must be nice to be so successful and full of yourself that us little basement dwellers are wrong. Blow some more smoke up our asses. Pride goes before the fall.

SmokeyTheBear 12-05-2009 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 16617645)
:
By the way Google Adwords TOS on Trademarks is as follows:

We will not disable keywords in response to a trademark complaint.

huh ? did you post the wrong link or something, the page you posted says basically the exact opposite and doesn't even contain the word "disable" am i missing something here.

Big Chad 12-05-2009 11:53 AM

<--NooB affiliate that will no longer be promoting HowIgotScammed

Agent 488 12-05-2009 11:55 AM

i would fight robbie at a show just based upon his avatar.

Fat Panda 12-05-2009 11:57 AM

How I Got Rich is a shady fucking program, affiliate beware promoting sites like this! FYI


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