Spot on!

Nicely done Mutt. :1orglaugh

Bump this bitch like the pinball wizard.

i'd love to take credit for it .......... but i can't

That is too friggin' funny!!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

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Thank you so much, what ever going to happen you made my day.

None of you know fuck-all about what you're talking about. These things need not be discussed in "TOS" because is a fucking difference between fucking right and wrong.

You do NOT go and bid someone's terms for keywords they already rank #1 on, and expect them not to shit-can you as an affiliate. Black and white. Straight forward. Simple as that.

If someone tried to do that to me, I'd shit-can you too.

Having affiliates means having people generating traffic for me. Not having affiliates exploit my pre-existing marketing to generate money for you. Do you firmly understand that's the definition of cyber-squatting? Exploitation of someone else's sweat... and your direct benefit? You DO understand that courts will NOT rule in your favor... correct? Cyber squatters do not have any legal ground to stand on.

Brilliant video!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Has Dirty D paid yet?

Courts have already ruled before that trademarks can be bid on, do some research.

Logic would dictate that one would not be paid for sending such PPC.

Let me ask you... would YOU pay for an affiliate to send you your OWN traffic?

No.

That's why this thread should not exist. Because Shoehorn, or whatever he calls himself, is basically committing fraud. Nothing needs to exist in a Terms of Service agreement that would basically convey logic. You don't say to yourself "ahh, as an affiliate I know I can generate traffic this program isn't generating themselves by bidding on their own name!" The way you come to that conclusion is by thinking "ahh, as an affiliate I know I can pull the wool over this program's eyes by capitalizing off their own hard work!"

That is the reason this is a fucking retarded thread.

Sorry, but there is no program that will allow this. Period. End of story. No TOS needed.

People bid on "someone elses" keywords all the time to rank higher. Some sites welcome it, since they have a hard time ranking for search terms for their own site names.

Simply update terms and pay for the real joins.

That's NOT the problem. You are avoiding the debate here. The problem is THIS: The guy was generating ALL of his joins with the keyword being the NAME of the site alone. Not for terms that they couldn't rank #1 on, terms that they DID rank #1 on.

That is not allowed by ANY program. Period!

Every domain I own is #1 in the SE's for that term. Any affiliate who tries to send me my own traffic is going to be canned just like Shoehorn. End of story. Cut and dry.

Yeah but you're still being used to make someone else money since they can still bid on your keywords, the only difference being you're now not making anything off it.

Great idea, genius.

That was great :1orglaugh

But the one about gfy was too fucking funny i cried watching it :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Some mainstream programs allow it, I wouldnt be surprised if some adult affiliates have realized that there is some value to it as well, whether you already have an organic 1st place position or not.

Does noone see the value in having 2 listings for your keyphrase since the user has just been served up a page with plenty of options, inclusive of competitors and paid ads that may be more enticing than the 1st organic search result?

moneyyyzzzzz ... ? :)

so you'd rather i bid on your terms and send them to a different site?

you do realize that review sites probably get the majority of their traffic from the same method, except that's just seo. just because someone types in xyz into google doesn't mean they want to go to xyz.com.

try 100 times or more...

Actually the avatar is perfect for him. He looks like a arrogant self centered know it all whose shit doesn't stink but is actually a douche bag.

Besides learning about HowIrobbedYou.com in this thread and to avoid him at all costs, I learned about the true nature of Robbie who was never on my radar before and to avoid him in business too.

lol over 13,000 views. Being new to the porn industry myself, this is the first post of this kind ive seen (havent ever seen a mainstream equiv to gfy) this post is definitely sticking out in my mind, and if I ever ran this dudes ads, Id be worried about getting paid. Unfortunate, cause Im down with the crackwhore niche

Im just starting to wondering if he can't afford to pay up, or just doesnt want to at this point.

Saying it is not allowed by any program is untrue. When an affiliate runs adword campaigns they have a whole gambit of keywords to try. Yes, in this instance the joins were based off the domain keywords. But that is not always the case.

Everyone wishes there were no competition for their keywords. When you run a program you make terms for situations like this. You can't forsee everything, since situations change. As they change you update your terms. It's that simple. It's ok to not like it but to not pay on a proven advertising method for real joins isn't right. Calling it fraud is completely wrong.



Some programs actually run their own ads on their own keywords to provide an alternative SE join point for surfers. There are surfers that prefer ads and convinced to click by that text.

Often this is a sign of a program tanking. When it comes to these kind of threads, where there is smoke there is fire. learn not to get burned.

This thread is obvious, if it isn't criminal (like stolen card or fake trials) it must be in the TOS or it is fair game.

You will get ripped of in the business. You just try to make it as little as loss as possible and never put all you eggs in one basket. Don't only do adult either!

Buy your own domains and use them to move traffic this way you can change hundreds of links on hundreds of sites with one flip of the switch.

My conversions used to be 1:32 to give you an idea of how this business changed.

You will also see programs treat some of their vocal affiliates great while the shave and rip off the little guy. If a few people are very vocal about a program and lots of little guys complain, avoid them.

Buying you drinks and lap dances at a trade show does not a good sponsor make. Always remember that!

Lastly. Selling hard goods (adult toys) is far more lucrative in regards to programs going under or ripping you off - as long as you go with a big name company and has been around for a VERY long time. They almost never go under! :2 cents:

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What a shame...

If I'm not wrong this is the second program this year losing huge reputation because of not paying an affiliate who deserve the money. [last was curiouscash?]

19?... I remember when 8 seemed much.

about to remove his adverts today.

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is that up to to the minute ?:winkwink:

xenigo you monkey tons of programs allow this, im pushing many offers now and im doing this :)

also that youtube video is the funniest shit

also dirty donkey all publicity IS NOT good publicity, when you get off the coke you'll see you have LOST more than $400 from this thread? so was it worth it?

If it was in your TOS you could shit can them all you want. Since it is a widely accepted method of advertising, with you, Dirty D, Robbie and a few others in the minority, you have to actually spell this out in your TOS and not make up the shit as you go.

One of you who do not allow YOUR affiliates to do this please answer this for me:

What happens when someone bids on your keywords and sends it to your competitor ?

another retarded way of thinking program pops up and added to the do not promote list. Anyone else think backwards like this ?

You are not even t alking about trade marks here or as the other poster said " cyber squatting"...

It's google ppc bidding on keyword phrases like " crachwhore confessions". If it was trademarked it would be a little different and I would understand them PUTTING IT IN THEIR TOS and telling people not to do it. Because then they could try to stop everyone from doing it, not just their affiliates.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh no program will allow this? what rock you crawled out from under? There has already been a lot more programs in this thread that say they allow this than ones that don't. Most do allow this.


I hope everyone takes notice of how you run your program and how you think. You read what happened here and you feel shoehorn (the affiliate) committed fraud, and Dirty D did nothing wrong. :upsidedow

What a stupid post you made.



ITS NOT YOUR TRAFFIC, IT'S GOOGLE'S TRAFFIC AND THEY SELL IT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN ASK GOOGLE NOT TO LIST YOUR SHIT ON THEIR SITE.

SO YOU THINK IT'S YOUR TRAFFIC. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEONE ELSE BIDS ON "YOURTRAFFIC" AND SENDS IT TO YOUR COMPETITOR, IS IT YOUR TRAFFIC THEN???? WHAT DO YOU DO THEN YOU MAKE NOTHING!!!

will76 is man born in the wrong time. she should have been born during the crusades.

just can't stand theft. been scammed a couple times, I know what it feels like and every time I see someone else doing it makes me remember. The arrogrance of the people scamming/stealing is the icing on the cake.

The only thing that gets my goat and makes me want to post are issues like this.

where the fuck is my buck?

Hey Shoehorn,
Why dont you just sue him in small claims court?. He wont show up, You get a judgment. When he refuses to pay, you get a lien against his bank accounts....

Since this is across state lines, just sue him in Federal Court. The lawyers fee's he will have to pay will be 10x what he owes you.

Its not the money now, its the principal.

And here is a bump since this has fallen down the page...

So very clueless. At least people know to stay away from your program. I know I will. :2 cents:

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Ditry D, you're an idiot. Pay the man.

February sounds like a possibility to come on up there :thumbsup

I agree..that was one funny video. I will buy the book now.