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Shoehorn! 12-07-2009 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16619538)

I am biased, but this is art.

will76 12-07-2009 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Due (Post 16624627)
Also promotion via keyword hijacking adware does not appear to be in the TOS.

Would you have looked at it different if that is how it was done ?

At the same time please keep in mind that adware is not actual illegal software but is also operating in the grey area as it's usually designed to take advantage of those from who you are superior (in other words, the stupid surfers)

If you deal with the law then you have to be very specific if you start specifying certain things. In this case it seems to be neither allowed nor disallowed.

you are crazy if you are trying to compare scumware to google ppc. There is nothing wrong with legit adware. The problem is with scumware that is really spyware and tries to prentend to be "adware". What zango did is not even close to how google ppc works. To make that assertion is as dumb as saying google ppc is the same as cyber squatting.

will76 12-07-2009 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16624681)
any non-shady program in this position would have used this thread/drama to make themselves look good - they'd have made good on the money they owe Shoehorn without agreeing with him. everybody would have clapped and commended DirtyD for doing the right thing.

1/2 the people here would still give him " wow way to go! " " takes a big man to admitt to his mistakes" " you are top notch bro" etc... if he pays up. It's never too late to get the "that a boys" from the bro club wanna bees.

How many times you see someone steal, get outted, backed into a corner, so they say "opps my bad, i am sorry" and everyone is like " awhhhh he is soo top notch, took a big man to say you made a mistake". fuck that he stole, got caught and had no choice but to cop to it. Nothing big about that shit...

thankfully Dirty D sounds so hardheaded he wont ever pay so we don't have to hear the " wow might swelll of you for doing the right thing, you are great" bullshit on page 43.

Iron Fist 12-07-2009 11:28 PM

Jeebus.. almost 20,000 views and 25 pages? Passing through..

Shoehorn! 12-07-2009 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16625086)
you are crazy if you are trying to compare scumware to google ppc. There is nothing wrong with legit adware. The problem is with scumware that is really spyware and tries to prentend to be "adware". What zango did is not even close to how google ppc works. To make that assertion is as dumb as saying google ppc is the same as cyber squatting.

If nothing else this thread has separated the knowledgeable from the ignorant, and the people to do business with from the scammers.

DWB 12-07-2009 11:32 PM

This thread delivers.

Pay the man.

Oh, and fuck Epoch.

Socks 12-07-2009 11:38 PM

Same shit, different year, but 1/10th the money in question.

Matyko 12-07-2009 11:39 PM

llonger than a contest thread OMG!!!!

umbralui 12-07-2009 11:46 PM

sad sad....

Dodge2hot 12-07-2009 11:46 PM

The main thing I have a problem is this. Not only is Dirty D saying that what Shoehorn did was WRONG, but he offered to pay Shoehorn $100pps for a month for the same fucking traffic.

So if Shoehorn is in the wrong, then WTF is Dirty D offering $100pps to Shoehorn to keep this traffic and sales coming in?

See that is the part that tells you that Dirty D didn't have a problem with the terms used. He just didn't want to fucking pay Shoehorn.

If someone is screwing me over, I do NOT offer them more money to Fuck me over even more. So why that thread went on with people defending Dirty D is beyond me.

Iron Fist 12-07-2009 11:51 PM

Twelve Fiddy :)

RTP 12-07-2009 11:52 PM

said it before this will be an epic thread - sigs, site and youtube video

what's next?

:1orglaugh

Shoehorn! 12-08-2009 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodge2hot (Post 16625120)
The main thing I have a problem is this. Not only is Dirty D saying that what Shoehorn did was WRONG, but he offered to pay Shoehorn $100pps for a month for the same fucking traffic.

So if Shoehorn is in the wrong, then WTF is Dirty D offering $100pps to Shoehorn to keep this traffic and sales coming in?

See that is the part that tells you that Dirty D didn't have a problem with the terms used. He just didn't want to fucking pay Shoehorn.

If someone is screwing me over, I do NOT offer them more money to Fuck me over even more. So why that thread went on with people defending Dirty D is beyond me.

Exactly, and he can't figure out why I am not all over that "awesome offer".

goldfish 12-08-2009 12:12 AM

My nightly I'm going to bed bump.

Just pay up already.

dav3 12-08-2009 12:23 AM

bump4you

Deej 12-08-2009 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodge2hot (Post 16625120)
The main thing I have a problem is this. Not only is Dirty D saying that what Shoehorn did was WRONG, but he offered to pay Shoehorn $100pps for a month for the same fucking traffic.

So if Shoehorn is in the wrong, then WTF is Dirty D offering $100pps to Shoehorn to keep this traffic and sales coming in?

See that is the part that tells you that Dirty D didn't have a problem with the terms used. He just didn't want to fucking pay Shoehorn.

If someone is screwing me over, I do NOT offer them more money to Fuck me over even more. So why that thread went on with people defending Dirty D is beyond me.

youre confused, he offered him 100 pps for any other form of traffic he accepts...

reguardless of that this is still shady on DirtyD's part

Fat Panda 12-08-2009 12:41 AM

bump for shady dirty d

CybermedAndy 12-08-2009 12:45 AM

Bumpage

8

BillyHoe 12-08-2009 12:52 AM

wow 26 pages and still going strong. g'night all hopefully it doesn't get to 30 by the morning, I hate catching up..lol

SmokeyTheBear 12-08-2009 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 16623653)
For the record, Dirty D has not said he doesn't allow PPC campaigns.

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Originally Posted by Dirty D
Facts:
PPC is not mentioned as an acceptable method of traffic in my TOS.
The acceptable methods are listed.

seems pretty clear he doesnt allow any ppc, he says acceptable methods are listed , ppc is not mentioned thus it must be unacceptable.

no ppc = no adwords period end of story

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-08-2009 12:54 AM

Jesus fuck 26 pages, I think Shoehorn gets the Xbox. :(

Shoehorn! 12-08-2009 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 16625221)
seems pretty clear he doesnt allow any ppc, he says acceptable methods are listed , ppc is not mentioned thus it must be unacceptable.

no ppc = no adwords period end of story

From his TOS - "What methods can I use to send traffic?
All email promotions must be CAN-SPAM compliant. You can send traffic many ways. We have plenty of banners, hosted galleries, and hosted free sites for you to choose from. You can also use text links, blind links, exit consoles, entrance consoles, 404 traffic and site reviews."

My AdWords campaign was a text link. End of story.

He accepted my traffic, paid me for it for 3 months, then stopped paying me without notifying me he didn't want my traffic. He let me keep sending sales thinking I wouldn't notice that I wasn't getting payouts from him.

He owes me money, plain and simple.

Fat Panda 12-08-2009 01:10 AM

friendly bump

Tjeezers 12-08-2009 01:11 AM

many webmasters read this thread, so i better get to work while my competition is distracted!!!

JFK 12-08-2009 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16621839)




Road to nowhere?

Two of us riding nowhere?!?



ADG

NO, the song I was reffering to was by the Talking heads and is titled "were on the road to nowhere" ;)

JenniDahling 12-08-2009 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16625012)
My mistake - subcontractor.

Thanks babe. I wish this had been handled a lot differently, I know you guys tried hashing it out on e-mail but couldn't see eye to eye. Just wanted to let you know that he and Candi Apple left for a 10 day cruise so he won't be online until next week. I'm hoping at that time you guys get another chance at talking things out.

You came to me several weeks ago and I passed on the message, thanks for not killing the messenger. Like I said, I don't know enough about PPC to have a strong and educated opinion nor was it something that involved me or included me in any way, so I was truly trying to stay out of this and not get dragged into someone else's drama.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-08-2009 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16625310)
NO, the song I was reffering to was by the Talking heads and is titled "were on the road to nowhere" ;)

Bah! Stickler...David Byrne performing "Road To Nowhere" Cajun/Zydeco style:



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Originally Posted by JenniDahling (Post 16625379)
Just wanted to let you know that he and Candi Apple left for a 10 day cruise so he won't be online until next week. I'm hoping at that time you guys get another chance at talking things out.

Guess Dirty D didn't hear, or he's on a low-budget cruise:

Quote:

Today's cruise ships come fully wired with Internet cafes, Wi-Fi hot spots and crystal clear cell phone transmission. So, whether you use a PDA for business, bring a cell phone to check in on grandma or need to surf the web to feed your news habit, you'll be covered.
ADG

Tjeezers 12-08-2009 03:25 AM

This thread has a high drama value, but gives me also the option to get to know some people better. Also it proves again today that no one is who they say they are.

I have no sides to pick, i am more here to bump the facts not the drama itself. Fact is, someone needs to get paid. no matter what. That is the only way for D to say " I have learned, i paid, lets go on " .... there is NO OTHER option.

PS D....have a nice cruise. And I doubt there is no internet on the boat. Time to take matters in hand and feed the mass what she wants. Your stubbornness will not win here

SGS 12-08-2009 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 16624691)
This is going to be the most expensive $350.00 in the history of the adult internet.

Should've paid the man his money.

:2 cents:

knobish 12-08-2009 04:41 AM

:winkwink: "hey buddy you have a giant dickfore on your head"

:Oh crap "whats a dickfore?"

NetHorse 12-08-2009 05:48 AM

http://www.cloudave.com/image/500000...06/scammer.jpg

nikad 12-08-2009 06:26 AM

and yet another morning bump! webmasters should be paid for their honest work.

InsaneMidget 12-08-2009 08:01 AM

I guess DirtyD would rather have "legit" results for "Crack Whore Confessions" like rapidshare, filestube, youtube, etc in his top results.

< / sarcasm>


Why not let your affiliates weed out torrent, filesharing , password trading websites with actual pages linking towards your paysite, even if it is a direct paysite link code the logic has not been fully thought out on your part DirtyD, your nickname has a whole new meaning now.

18teens 12-08-2009 08:18 AM

Pay the man the money he's owed.

Rui 12-08-2009 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 16613332)
And make profit? Yes, it does take skill to make that happen. Having the key word does not bring in magical sales fairies. The end-user still has to buy.

Type-in any site name at Google and the result will list 10 regular links, along with sponsored links and also sidebar links. That's an awful lot of real estate to lose someone on. If they don't click one link, they'll click another.

If I can have five out of 15 links going to my site, affiliate or not, and not going to torrents... that's not too bad. Much better than zero out of 15.

My thoughts exactly, from what he said and his pov on that matter doesn't look like he "know much" about Google Adwords (to be polite) :2 cents:

Penrod 12-08-2009 08:31 AM

http://www.dirtycruise.com/

Can someone translate?

mona 12-08-2009 08:36 AM

www.crackwhoreconfessions.com = domain name

crackwhore confessions = keywords

Right?

PastorSinAlot 12-08-2009 08:42 AM

dirty was my hero, until i seen his action is this thread. It was not in the Terms, he should pay then add it to the terms. he not called dirty for no reason I see

babydred 12-08-2009 09:11 AM

10 day cruise my ass...he's "cruisin' down the shitter. Just pay the man you dirty fuckhead!

I'm sure Dogfart will enjoy the extra gloryhole traffic.

DOGFART has no invisible rules in their TOS.

Axeman 12-08-2009 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by babydred (Post 16626235)
10 day cruise my ass...he's "cruisin' down the shitter. Just pay the man you dirty fuckhead!

I'm sure Dogfart will enjoy the extra gloryhole traffic.

DOGFART has no invisible rules in their TOS.

LOL - Just own up to your responsibilities D and pay the man. Change your TOS and never have to deal with this issue ever again. It really is just that simple.


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