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L-Pink 12-06-2009 10:23 AM

Bump for bucks owed

Big Chad 12-06-2009 10:30 AM

OMFG.. That video is too good!! Good laugh :)

Fat Panda 12-06-2009 10:40 AM

what a fucking maggot this guy is

will76 12-06-2009 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16619953)

One of you who do not allow YOUR affiliates to do this please answer this for me:

What happens when someone bids on your keywords and sends it to your competitor ?

Not once has any of these guys answered the question above.

They seem to think if they can stop "THEIR" affiliates from doing it, it wont happen. When in reality they should be thankfull their affiliates are paying out of their own pocket to make sure that traffic goes to their program and not their competitors.

Quagmire 12-06-2009 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16620200)
Not once has any of these guys answered the question above.

They seem to think if they can stop "THEIR" affiliates from doing it, it wont happen. When in reality they should be thankfull their affiliates are paying out of their own pocket to make sure that traffic goes to their program and not their competitors.

Oh, you be quiet with your sense and logic. If the traffic didn't come to them, it doesn't exist.

There is no spoon.
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Shoehorn! 12-06-2009 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 16619674)
None of you know fuck-all about what you're talking about. These things need not be discussed in "TOS" because is a fucking difference between fucking right and wrong.

You do NOT go and bid someone's terms for keywords they already rank #1 on, and expect them not to shit-can you as an affiliate. Black and white. Straight forward. Simple as that.

If someone tried to do that to me, I'd shit-can you too.

Having affiliates means having people generating traffic for me. Not having affiliates exploit my pre-existing marketing to generate money for you. Do you firmly understand that's the definition of cyber-squatting? Exploitation of someone else's sweat... and your direct benefit? You DO understand that courts will NOT rule in your favor... correct? Cyber squatters do not have any legal ground to stand on.

Do you think its right that he allowed me to continue to send traffic and joins long after deciding not to pay me, without notifying me? It would be one thing if he contacted me and told me to stop, but he removed my payout from the batch in NATS and never contacted me.

He continued to accept my traffic and joins without saying anything to me, without suspending my affiliate account and without paying me. That is the issue.

Shoehorn! 12-06-2009 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16620200)
Not once has any of these guys answered the question above.

They seem to think if they can stop "THEIR" affiliates from doing it, it wont happen. When in reality they should be thankfull their affiliates are paying out of their own pocket to make sure that traffic goes to their program and not their competitors.

I also find it odd that a few programs (including Twistys, one of the bigger programs out there) have contacted me about getting a PPC campaign going for them.

Shoehorn! 12-06-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16616687)
Sweet!

Finally some good marketing.
Haters always make me money, that's why I smile all the time!

Remember links to the paysites are worth $100PPS to you for 30 days!

Make sure the webmaster referral link is on the page too for an additional 10%.

As was mentioned earlier the publicity is great.

Typein sales are up, a few new serious affiliates too.

Since by your own admission all this publicity is so great for you, and surely you must be making more money because of it, how about paying me what you owe me?

2012 12-06-2009 11:36 AM


Shoehorn! 12-06-2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzzyQ (Post 16620070)
Hey Shoehorn,
Why dont you just sue him in small claims court?. He wont show up, You get a judgment. When he refuses to pay, you get a lien against his bank accounts....

Since this is across state lines, just sue him in Federal Court. The lawyers fee's he will have to pay will be 10x what he owes you.

Its not the money now, its the principal.

And here is a bump since this has fallen down the page...

Unfortunately for me a small claims suit would have to be filed in Florida. However tomorrow I am going to call some collection agencies down there and see what they say can be done for me to recover at least some of the money he owes me. I am not sure about the Federal thing, I don't know if they would even hear it over such a small amount of money, but I will find out tomorrow.

And thanks for the bump. :)

escorpio 12-06-2009 11:43 AM

Broke, delusional and self destructive. Is this guy on cocaine?

ahoy 12-06-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16620081)
So very clueless. At least people know to stay away from your program. I know I will. :2 cents:

God no kidding, what a fucking moron. You would think he would of went and did some Google searches for site names before coming here and sounding so clueless :error

I just still can't believe these guys think it is "their" traffic. Like others have said, he could have just has easily sent the PPC traffic to a competitor. Worse conversion rate then sending it to the exact site? Yeah, I am sure it would be.. but what does that have to do with anything? It is still his traffic, its just not going to your program anymore :error

Robbie and the other defenders have still yet to answer the question about review site traffic. In their logic, 90% of review site traffic already belongs to the site owners :1orglaugh and they are just robbing sales that were already theirs.

Shoehorn! 12-06-2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahoy (Post 16620250)
Worse conversion rate then sending it to the exact site? Yeah, I am sure it would be.. but what does that have to do with anything?

I'd rather have a worse conversion ratio and get paid, than have a good ratio and not get paid. :)

DBS.US 12-06-2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16620254)
I'd rather have a worse conversion ratio and get paid, than have a good ratio and not get paid. :)

Great point :thumbsup

SmokeyTheBear 12-06-2009 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 16619674)
None of you know fuck-all about what you're talking about. These things need not be discussed in "TOS" because is a fucking difference between fucking right and wrong.

You do NOT go and bid someone's terms for keywords they already rank #1 on, and expect them not to shit-can you as an affiliate. Black and white. Straight forward. Simple as that.
.

is this one of those reverse posts where you are trying to sabotoge the program you advertise ?

Wy on earth would you even say that considering the avalanche of people who feel the opposite way.

Kudos on having the balls to say how you feel i suppose but way to shoot yourself in the foot at the same time.

Axeman 12-06-2009 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 16619793)
Often this is a sign of a program tanking. When it comes to these kind of threads, where there is smoke there is fire. learn not to get burned.

This thread is obvious, if it isn't criminal (like stolen card or fake trials) it must be in the TOS or it is fair game.

You will get ripped of in the business. You just try to make it as little as loss as possible and never put all you eggs in one basket. Don't only do adult either!

Buy your own domains and use them to move traffic this way you can change hundreds of links on hundreds of sites with one flip of the switch.

My conversions used to be 1:32 to give you an idea of how this business changed.

You will also see programs treat some of their vocal affiliates great while the shave and rip off the little guy. If a few people are very vocal about a program and lots of little guys complain, avoid them.

Buying you drinks and lap dances at a trade show does not a good sponsor make. Always remember that!

Lastly. Selling hard goods (adult toys) is far more lucrative in regards to programs going under or ripping you off - as long as you go with a big name company and has been around for a VERY long time. They almost never go under! :2 cents:

So true. My guess is he is flat broke and can't pay.

katharos 12-06-2009 12:24 PM

how is your lobotomy mr dirty?

Shoehorn! 12-06-2009 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 16620293)
is this one of those reverse posts where you are trying to sabotoge the program you advertise ?

Wy on earth would you even say that considering the avalanche of people who feel the opposite way.

Kudos on having the balls to say how you feel i suppose but way to shoot yourself in the foot at the same time.

I wonder if he thinks it is acceptable that Dirty D kept accepting my traffic and joins with no intention of paying me?

fris 12-06-2009 12:25 PM

pay the man

xxweekxx 12-06-2009 12:38 PM

pay up you " dirty old jerking off in movie theater with old men" man

jigg 12-06-2009 12:44 PM

and this thread keeps going and going

candyflip 12-06-2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16620225)
Do you think its right that he allowed me to continue to send traffic and joins long after deciding not to pay me, without notifying me? It would be one thing if he contacted me and told me to stop, but he removed my payout from the batch in NATS and never contacted me.

He continued to accept my traffic and joins without saying anything to me, without suspending my affiliate account and without paying me. That is the issue.

You can't talk sense to someone who drives a Honda Civic with a vanity plate that reads "ADULT".

That's what this idiot's plate reads.

Crunked 12-06-2009 12:45 PM

19 Pages and you still haven't been paid. I hope you're posting this on other boards as well.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-06-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzzyQ (Post 16620070)
Hey Shoehorn,
Why dont you just sue him in small claims court?. He wont show up, You get a judgment. When he refuses to pay, you get a lien against his bank accounts....

Since this is across state lines, just sue him in Federal Court. The lawyers fee's he will have to pay will be 10x what he owes you.

Its not the money now, its the principal.

And here is a bump since this has fallen down the page...

JUDGE: Bailiff, what is the next case?

BAILIFF: Shoehorn vs Dirty D, involving PPC with no TOS.

JUDGE: FTW? What brings you here Mr...um, Shoehorn?

SHOEHORN: One of the lawyers on Go Fuck Yourself suggested I could recover the money Dirty D refuses to pay me in small claims court.

JUDGE: Did you just tell me to Go Fuck Myself?!? I hereby find you in contempt of court, and fine you $470.

What does the defendant have to say for himself?

DIRTY D: Affiliates may not use the term Crackwhore Confessions in PPC campaigns to send sells to my site which depicts desperate drug addicted prostitutes being humiliated and degraded. I should be the only one allowed to make money off of this form of exploitation.

JUDGE: Is that in your Terms of Service?

DIRTY D: Well, no, but it's my program, so I can impose arbitrary rules whenever I want to.

JUDGE: That's not the way it works in my courthouse. Wait a minute, you look familiar, do you have any priors?

DIRTY D: I was arrested a few times for oral sex and jerking off at an adult theater, but I can explain - that was...er, um..."research".

JUDGE: I hereby fine you $470. Bailiff, get these filthy scum out of my courtroom, NOW!!!

http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com...sentencing.jpg

In case of Red "X" etc, Click Here.

ADG

ruff 12-06-2009 12:51 PM

The only way to keep these asshat sponsors from fucking webmasters is to keep calling them out.

CunningStunt 12-06-2009 12:54 PM

LOLz ADG.

Do I win $477 for the 1000th post in this thread?

Axeman 12-06-2009 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt (Post 16620350)
LOLz ADG.

Do I win $477 for the 1000th post in this thread?

Yes you get to pick $477 monopoly money or $477 How I got Rich money. I'd take the monopoly money as its the only one that exists.

Theo 12-06-2009 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16620342)
JUDGE: Bailiff, what is the next case?

BAILIFF: Shoehorn vs Dirty D, involving PPC with no TOS.

JUDGE: FTW? What brings you here Mr...um, Shoehorn?

SHOEHORN: One of the lawyers on Go Fuck Yourself suggested I could recover the money Dirty D refuses to pay me in small claims court.

JUDGE: Did you just tell me to Go Fuck Myself?!? I hereby find you in contempt of court, and fine you $470.

What does the defendant have to say for himself?

DIRTY D: Affiliates may not use the term Crackwhore Confessions in PPC campaigns to send sells to my site which depicts desperate drug addicted prostitutes being humiliated and degraded. I should be the only one allowed to make money off of this form of exploitation.

JUDGE: Is that in your Terms of Service?

DIRTY D: Well, no, but it's my program, so I can impose arbitrary rules whenever I want to.

JUDGE: That's not the way it works in my courthouse. Wait a minute, you look familiar, do you have any priors?

DIRTY D: I was arrested a few times for oral sex and jerking off at an adult theater, but I can explain - that was...er, um..."research".

JUDGE: I hereby fine you $470. Bailiff, get these filthy scum out of my courtroom, NOW!!!

http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com...sentencing.jpg

In case of Red "X" etc, Click Here.

ADG

haahahaha

Fat Panda 12-06-2009 01:52 PM

Dirty D will soon send a woman to gfy to beg for joins to pay Shoehorn...tick tick tick

The Judge 12-06-2009 02:07 PM

Had enough of this. Shoeboy, there is one thing you can do that will get you paid the 470 right away. I'll give you a hint - it's 100 percent legal but very dirty.

Deej 12-06-2009 02:09 PM

9 fitty shitty program responses...

Pay whats due...

CunningStunt 12-06-2009 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Judge (Post 16620433)
Had enough of this. Shoeboy, there is one thing you can do that will get you paid the 470 right away. I'll give you a hint - it's 100 percent legal but very dirty.

I like the sound of this option. Give more of a hint, I might need to use this myself on someone who owes me.

CunningStunt 12-06-2009 02:24 PM

The big winner in this entire thread is BVF, through no intention of his own.

I wonder if he's had a spike in affiliate signups the last week? Heck, even I looked at signing up to promote those skanky bitches.

Shoehorn! 12-06-2009 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 16620393)
Yes you get to pick $477 monopoly money or $477 How I got Rich money. I'd take the monopoly money as its the only one that exists.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Shoehorn! 12-06-2009 02:38 PM

Page 20 and still no money, and I even said that I would accept $350 instead of the $477 that I am currently owed.

SuzzyQ 12-06-2009 02:44 PM

Its all about the principal now.

stickyd 12-06-2009 02:50 PM

20? An affiliate can out-bid a program on branded Keywords? How's that work financially?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-06-2009 02:55 PM

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...nzaPopcorn.gif

You want to know what's fucked up?!?

So, in between checking to see if Dirty D paid Shoehorn, I'm watching the Saints vs Redskins football game. Washington is up by 7, with only about a minute and a half left, and has a first down inside the New Orleans 10. The drive stalls and they have to settle for a chip shot field goal to go up by 10.

The kicker fucking missed it...

On the ensuing kick-off, Drew Brees guides his team down the field, capping off a last minute drive with no time outs, by throwing a 53-yard TD to tie the game and force overtime.

What happens next? Fucking Fox cuts away to the 49ers - Seahawks game. :mad:

I know NFL rules and all, but why not at least provide picture-in-picture for christsakes!?!

Also, I would rather watch Dallas vs NY Giants, than two teams whose season is all but finished.

Arrgh! I'm buying NFL ticket next year...

New Orleans WINS the game with a Field Goal in overtime, keeping them unbeaten (along with the Colts). :drinkup

ADG

DBS.US 12-06-2009 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16620479)
Page 20 and still no money, and I even said that I would accept $350 instead of the $477 that I am currently owed.

Never back down, never forget. $477 is $477

Cyber Fucker 12-06-2009 03:08 PM

Lol this thread is fucking hilarious, dirty dude is getting self owned more and more. :1orglaugh

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