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Alky 12-05-2009 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618105)
Didn't say that. You're not understanding what I said. I said if you search for crack whores...then it's a toss up. If a surfer searches for the term "crackwhore confessions" then he is searching for a BRANDED website in specificity. Yes, there is a small chance he would buy another site. Because that kind of thing would actually bring NEW eyes to BVF's site. But it does NOT bring new eyes to Dirty D's site. And if that isn't clear to you then I don't know what else to say.

Ya I clearly do not understand what you are saying.... but I think this makes sense.

You are saying crackwhore confessions is branded well, but bmw is not. Thanks for the clarification.

Deej 12-05-2009 01:31 PM

Robbie... seriously?

Jesus christ man...Shoehorn asked you to refrain...

Fuck this shit... why dosnt everyone just go buy his main keywords and flood his "siphoned traffic" to another program..

not just one affiliate... flood his keywords... Lets all make BVF richer! He needs more wine n weed! Perhaps some dingle balls for the van...

Lets do this shit. Since D wants no part of what he says is "HIS TRAFFIC"...

Show him its really not his fucking traffic...

Shoehorn! 12-05-2009 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618105)
Didn't say that. You're not understanding what I said. I said if you search for crack whores...then it's a toss up. If a surfer searches for the term "crackwhore confessions" then he is searching for a BRANDED website in specificity. Yes, there is a small chance he would buy another site. Because that kind of thing would actually bring NEW eyes to BVF's site. But it does NOT bring new eyes to Dirty D's site. And if that isn't clear to you then I don't know what else to say.

People might only be aware of crackwhoreconfessions, but not BVF. If they search for "crackwhore confessions" looking for a crackwhore site, and see the ad for BVF, they might check it out, realize its something they've never seen before, and buy a membership.

Robbie 12-05-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16618109)
This is true, but a typein and searching for the site in Google are two entirely separate things.

Absolutely, But actual real life "type ins" are very rare. Most people seem to just go to google instead of their address bar. Which means Google is at this time the life blood of sales for a lot of folks. Which again, is probably what set Dirty D off.

Alky 12-05-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618112)
Oh, still don't get what that had to do with what we were talking about. We were discussing this topic. Not how many adword campaigns you pay for. Sorry for the confusion.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618073)
Quite frankly, that Adword didn't add up to much anyway. So all the talk of sending that massive traffic somewhere else doesn't really mean much does it? Or am I way off base? If so, then feel free to educate me. And let me know your credentials and expertise in doing so.

Remember?

CunningStunt 12-05-2009 01:34 PM

Why do you feel the constant need to interject Robbie, this thread has nothing to do with you whatsoever.

Maybe DirtyD believes that there is no such thing as bad publicity except your own obituary.

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Robbie 12-05-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16618119)
People might only be aware of crackwhoreconfessions, but not BVF. If they search for "crackwhore confessions" looking for a crackwhore site, and see the ad for BVF, they might check it out, realize its something they've never seen before, and buy a membership.

That would definitely be the "new eyes" on a site. And BVF would be happy to get that. But at the same time you would probably profit far more on an adword for Crackwhore porn or crackwhore sex than you would targeting crackwhore confessions to make sales for black vagina finder.

But it's your money. If you think the adword for crackwhore confessions sending to BVF would be worth the money then give it a shot.

Deej 12-05-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618105)
But it does NOT bring new eyes to Dirty D's site. And if that isn't clear to you then I don't know what else to say.

This isnt necessarily true, nor does it matter...

Neither you now D can prove that they arent favored to paid ads or that they truly would have just gone right to crackwhore confessions...

most likely if thats the site they wanted to hit they would type it in the fucking addey bar...

then you come back and say well a lot of surfers mistake their google bar for the addey bar... well you can prove that just as much as knowing foir sure that the surfer wouldnt have gone through the paid ad over the organic...

Get a life D... you are contractually wrong... lawfully you are wrong... in the eyes of affiliates(your partners) you are wrong.

If youre so sure about your method here D and apprently proud... I implore you to send out a newsletter to your affiliates... showing them this link and expressing all of your thoughts on it. Even offer your 100 PPS .. See how that goes over...

Robbie 12-05-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alky (Post 16618123)
Remember?

Yes, there was no massive amount of traffic or sales being generated from the keyword crackwhore confessions.

Johnny wasn't sending a 1000 campaigns towards Dirty D to begin with. He was sending 30 + And of all of them Dirty D said he had a problem with THREE of them. And of those 3 the only one that actually made sales was the "crackwhore confessions" one.

So I don't see where the rest of Shoehorns business has anything to do with the amount of sales and or traffic that he was sending to Dirty D being sent somewhere else. Or maybe we are just misunderstanding each other entirely here?

Carmine Raguso 12-05-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sextoyking (Post 16617796)
Shutup Boy - all you do is talk shit and play stupid..... Grown the fuck up...

It seems like alot of your posts have the word "faggot" in them.. Are you in the closet and have some kind of issue?

Do you have a problem with Gay ppl?

Wise up boy - this is a business, not a playground...

Fuck you faggot. Hate me? amirite?

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Faggot.

Shoehorn! 12-05-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618132)
That would definitely be the "new eyes" on a site. And BVF would be happy to get that. But at the same time you would probably profit far more on an adword for Crackwhore porn or crackwhore sex than you would targeting crackwhore confessions to make sales for black vagina finder.

But it's your money. If you think the adword for crackwhore confessions sending to BVF would be worth the money then give it a shot.

The ads are waiting on approval as I type this. I am going to send the same traffic to BVF and see how it does. It might even do better, have you read some of what BVF says on that site, its fucking hilarious. I go there every few months just to read what he has to say.

fatfoo 12-05-2009 01:40 PM

HowIGotRich.com DOES NOT PAY ITS AFFILIATES, you say. I see.

Deej 12-05-2009 01:41 PM

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Carmine Raguso 12-05-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16618145)
The ads are waiting on approval as I type this. I am going to send the same traffic to BVF and see how it does. It might even do better, have you read some of what BVF says on that site, its fucking hilarious. I go there every few months just to read what he has to say.

Where is the money Chio owes people?

Robbie 12-05-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16618133)
most likely if thats the site they wanted to hit they would type it in the fucking addey bar...

then you come back and say well a lot of surfers mistake their google bar for the addey bar... well you can prove that just as much as knowing foir sure that the surfer wouldnt have gone through the paid ad over the organic...

That's not what I said either. I can prove that surfers type in names into Google INSTEAD of their address bar by my referring URL's. And so can most program owners.

And I never said they "mistake" it. They don't. They just prefer it. Same phenomenom as a person using the "guide" on their cable box to go to a channel instead of just going to the channel. I don't know why they do that. I'm like you, I type in the address bar. And when I know the t.v. channel I want I just go there. But I do see the trends of what other people do and I use them to my advantage.

BAKO 12-05-2009 01:43 PM

Huge freaking thread

Robbie 12-05-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16618145)
The ads are waiting on approval as I type this. I am going to send the same traffic to BVF and see how it does. It might even do better, have you read some of what BVF says on that site, its fucking hilarious. I go there every few months just to read what he has to say.

Yes, BVF has a great site. So does Dirty D. If it were me, I'd be buying black vagina finder as an adword. You would definitely do better than the black tube site that is currently doing it. But I suppose it's worth a shot using "crackwhore confessions"

Deej 12-05-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16618152)
Where is the money Chio owes people?

What does that have to do anything with a friend of Chio's?

Deej 12-05-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618153)
That's not what I said either. I can prove that surfers type in names into Google INSTEAD of their address bar by my referring URL's. And so can most program owners.

And I never said they "mistake" it. They don't. They just prefer it. Same phenomenom as a person using the "guide" on their cable box to go to a channel instead of just going to the channel. I don't know why they do that. I'm like you, I type in the address bar. And when I know the t.v. channel I want I just go there. But I do see the trends of what other people do and I use them to my advantage.

My google bar comments were directed at DirtyD, sorry for the confusion.

Carmine Raguso 12-05-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16618158)
What does that have to do anything with a friend of Chio's?

Dood, this guy has spent $750 (guess?) in time wasted on this board about someone that owes him $350 when his best buddy owes THOUSANDS! THOUSANDS! He has no problem snuffing that one to the curb, but gets his thong in a bunch over $350.

Va2k 12-05-2009 01:47 PM

Anyone that don't want to see dumb ass and his two cents should just put his ass on ignore!

Ignore List
Robbie

Damn thread starter asked hell begged you to STFU and you can't!

God this makes it well worth it, I can see more of the topic now!

This message is hidden because Robbie is on your ignore list.

Shoehorn! 12-05-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618157)
Yes, BVF has a great site. So does Dirty D. If it were me, I'd be buying black vagina finder as an adword. You would definitely do better than the black tube site that is currently doing it. But I suppose it's worth a shot using "crackwhore confessions"

Bidding on that as well. :)

Shoehorn! 12-05-2009 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16618158)
What does that have to do anything with a friend of Chio's?

I've been told thats edgeprod's new nick, who was proven to be a compulsive liar and scammer by Chio, and now has a vendetta. Funny thing is, he never even used Chios service, because if he had he would know that most everyone has been paid. :2 cents:

Deej 12-05-2009 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16618165)
Dood, this guy has spent $750 (guess?) in time wasted on this board about someone that owes him $350 when his best buddy owes THOUSANDS! THOUSANDS! He has no problem snuffing that one to the curb, but gets his thong in a bunch over $350.

Please give me a connection besides them getting drunk together and having fun...

Need i mention the numerous shows a year where people that get drunk with their competition and enemies?

youre bad at this shit stirring thing....

Carmine Raguso 12-05-2009 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16618177)
Please give me a connection besides them getting drunk together and having fun...

Need i mention the numerous shows a year where people that get drunk with their competition and enemies?

youre bad at this shit stirring thing....

Go back to beer pong, faggetti :2 cents:

Shoehorn! 12-05-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16618177)
Please give me a connection besides them getting drunk together and having fun...

Need i mention the numerous shows a year where people that get drunk with their competition and enemies?

youre bad at this shit stirring thing....

Just ignore him man, hes only trying to start an argument and take the thread off track.

Deej 12-05-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16618180)
Go back to beer pong, faggetti :2 cents:

Go back to being a horrible troll... cause your attempts at stirring shit are horrendous...

Franck... Dark Jedi... both very good at it...

You suck...

Carmine Raguso 12-05-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 16618183)
Just ignore him man, hes only trying to start an argument and take the thread off track.

Thief.........................

Carmine Raguso 12-05-2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16618186)
Go back to being a horrible troll... cause your attempts at stirring shit are horrendous...

Franck... Dark Jedi... both very good at it...

You suck...

Fucking queer. Suck some more cock fag. :1orglaugh

AaronM 12-05-2009 01:58 PM

Sig spot. :glugglug

Shoehorn! 12-05-2009 01:59 PM

Still willing to work with you to get my money Dirty D.

fatfoo 12-05-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt (Post 16618127)
Why do you feel the constant need to interject Robbie, this thread has nothing to do with you whatsoever.

Maybe DirtyD believes that there is no such thing as bad publicity except your own obituary.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nasse_1895.jpg

Obituary is good publicity, too. It only says good things about the person. Because - it's in bad taste to say something bad about a dead person.

woj 12-05-2009 02:05 PM

damn, all this over $300 bucks?!

sextoyking 12-05-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16618143)
Fuck you faggot. Hate me? amirite?

http://i.current.com/images/asset/89.../php4FdnwN.gif

Faggot.



hahahaha, did I touch a nerve? ----- Idiot....

Shoehorn! 12-05-2009 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 16618205)
damn, all this over $300 bucks?!

Actually it was $350, but now since the new pay period rolled over its $477. But I told him I would take $350 and we can both go our separate ways.

Atticus 12-05-2009 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16618153)
That's not what I said either. I can prove that surfers type in names into Google INSTEAD of their address bar by my referring URL's. And so can most program owners.

And I never said they "mistake" it. They don't. They just prefer it. Same phenomenom as a person using the "guide" on their cable box to go to a channel instead of just going to the channel. I don't know why they do that. I'm like you, I type in the address bar. And when I know the t.v. channel I want I just go there. But I do see the trends of what other people do and I use them to my advantage.


My guess would be because they dont want the domain name to show up in their drop down menu. So instead they type it in to google and click on that link.

This whole thing is ridiculous for both sides on many levels.

1. If D's program didnt have anything in the ToS regarding bidding on certain terms he owes the affiliate money. Period. Doesnt matter what the affiliate bid on. You dont decide that you dont want the traffic but not tell the affiliate and accept the sales for three months, then with hold the money owed. As has been said by most everybody: You inform the affiliate that this traffic is not accepted and pay out what is owed, then update the ToS.

2. As a program owner, when you're clearly in the wrong, why you would keep this going for a mere $350 is ridiculous. Something else is going on that we're not aware of ($$ issues) or they're idiots.

3. As an affiliate why would you come to the biggest industry board and spell out how you make $$, inviting competition with your ppc campaigns, for a measly $350?

But thank you to both for the very entertaining read. :thumbsup

katharos 12-05-2009 02:18 PM

bleee aa hahaaaa uiiiiii

RTP 12-05-2009 02:21 PM

wow this is still going...at least it's interesting. facts are facts, so shoe hope you get paid. congrats to all parties for making this such an epic thread

:1orglaugh

btw re: the other comments in this thread, don't worry about typos in the search bar esp. with google.

"Starting this week, when we have high confidence that your query was misspelled, we go a step further than asking "Did you mean..." by automatically showing results for the corrected query, saving you a click. In case we did misinterpret the query, there will be a link at the top of the results to undo the auto-correction. So, the next time I'm visiting South Florida and accidentally search for [maimi restaurants], it's reassuring to know I'll quickly go straight to the results for what I really meant: Miami restaurants."

Theo 12-05-2009 02:24 PM

this seems like a get paid by post thread lol

katharos 12-05-2009 02:26 PM

pay the money man


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