pimpmaster9000

so useless drunks are better educated than americans?

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@China: your historic knowledge (or should I rather say: perspective ?) paralyzes me...
hint: China was never a big and good friend of USRR
@Ukraine: you forget that people in Ukraine differ. those on the east are still stood in USRR years and are missing these times. they are still waiting for 5 year plan from Moscow to accomplish and to get their 2 weeks holiday ticket for Crimea. thats their mentality. so, do they have a right to live in your world also ?
I agree that if I had to chose between being close ally to Russia or US, I would probably prefer to be close ally of US...BUT: if I had to chose. fortunately, I have mine own common sense and dont have to make such choices...and I enjoy living in the world with few powers, not one superpower.

crockett

It's amazing than none of you Putinbots have been capable of committing on Russia's aggression toward Ukraine.. All you guys can do is deflect, deflect, deflect.. blame USA!

You guys are just like Republican's..

klinton

I would rather say: it was fueling the war and escalating possible conflict ( by sending specops guys to the east, that got quite easy task to fuel the conflict. east is connected to Russia, West not. East was supporting commies during WW2, west - fascists. east speaks Russian, west prefers ukrainian. EAST VOTED YANUKOVICH and he was LEGALLY ELECTED president for WHOLE COUNTRY, while west VIOLENTLY OVERTHROWED HIM...->>>>so who really started the conflict, hah... ? ) to protect Russian interests (at least how Putin and other high guys see them)...what happened later is sad case for people that live there. unfortunately, Putin and Poroshenko dont give a fuck about them and just send blood thirsty mercenaries to fight and destroy.

kazbalah

LOL.. sorry my friend it is you who is brain washed.

Lets see.

You guys invaded iraq, libya, fucked up egypt, have bases in Australia, new zealand, europe and all over the world. Your encircling China. You put sanctions on countries that kill millions of children. You bomb people from the sky, killing children and innocents, while your soldiers laugh about it.

I think perhaps America has killed more people then hitler, chairman mao or pol pot.

Your TV is the biggest propaganda tool in the world. Its used to disseminate lies and disinformation.

Your politicians are all corrupt, they all own businesses that get government contracts and make them wealthy. Your companies put harsh chemicals into food products to make them more cost effective. Those same companies have taken all the jobs away from your country so they can make extra profit.

Your banking system has been hijacked by the banksters and the dumb sheeples of America are too brainwashed to see it, they make harsh emotional knee jerk decisions to any information that CNN or FOX news has not pumped into your head. You get all your information from the TV man, who is lying to you.

Your paying interest to the banks on every dollar printed, which means your national debt goes up every year - America is bankrupt. Its done. The banksters have made billions, and your money is worth less ever year.

You have tried to kill the cubans, the russians. You toppled governments all over latin America like it was some sort of game. You have kept Africa divided so rich people can make more money, stealing the oil and diamond and whatever else is there.

Are you joking? Your country is a fucking nightmare. Russia is only sticking up for itself, fucking good on em. China and Russia is the counter balance to American totalitarianism.

America just wants to stay on top. Its not going to happen, your time has come. Just don't take down the rest of the world with ya alright..

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just a punk

Not only healthcare and medicine, of course. The same applies to disabled people support, unemployment benefits, housing for the homeless, prisons / correctional system and many many more...

I wouldn't even compare the level of social development of the USA and Sweden. You are on totally different levels now. Sweden has already reached socialism, while the States are still capitalist country with all specific problems.

As I said above. Marx was totally right about his social development theory:



Where communism is some abstract unreachable state of society. It's like ∞ (the infinity symbol in math, if you know is it). You can move towards its direction eternally. You can get closer and closer but you won't reach it. That's why it's the latest stage in the Marx theory. Otherwise there should be a next one.

So, we all see that this theory works just perfect and some high developed European countries are a good example. Believe me or not, but your country will reach the same level of development in future (course if it won't collapse first like all other empires did). Looks like it won't happen during your life but it will happen some day w/o any doubts and the States will be socialist.

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spads

Well there are quite a few Russians who innovate. All of them moved away though because no intelligent person wants to live in Russia :p

just a punk

As any normal people, they move to the places where they will be paid more for their work. The money is a magnet, that's obvious. Unfortunately, Putin and his gang are not interested in innovations and funding of science, since there is easy money in oil and gas. They can pump those resources w/o any innovations to make themselves rich even more. They don't give a shit about Russia and that's the worst problem we have here today.

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spads

Yeah the money is one factor, but they move away for more than that reason. No one wants to be shaken down by police on the regular, deal with a crumbling infrastructure, shit customer service everywhere, etc. There's a reason that Western Europe and US have fuckloads of Russians living there and not the other way around.

klinton

and this is your glorious socialism at work, evry day:
http://rt.com/news/263625-norway-chi...lfare-protest/

klinton

well, you may blame US for many things but for Africa, too ?
this is a place that was always clusteruck, without US

directfiesta

Maybe those Russians troops could engage in some '' rendering '' and pick up the wanted criminal just appointed as Governor of Odessa , Mikhail Saakashvili !

Sure Poroshenko consulted his ' handlers ' before doing such a move . The guy is not even Ukranian ( well, he became one on Friday ) ...

Wonder what the people of Texas would say if Obama ' appointed ' James Carville as governor

just a punk

Google for it: Vadim Vassilenko. I perfectly remember that funny and very naive guy from one of Russian-speaking webmaster boards. He was so happy to live and work in States, he told us it's a heaven for business etc. We were sneering on him and trying to explain that the USA is far not the country he think it is. The picture from Hollywood movies and reality are very different. Finally he learned the lesson.

As about our customer service so it's a head above the US one. I've been there and here and I know what I'm talking about. Soviet service was definitely awful - that's true, because business had no owner. Now the times have changed and customer service here has changed too. Please stop posting things you have no idea about.

It's not mine. It's a Norwegian one. On the other hand, there always will be people who like apples and those who prefer ice-cream. Don't like the laws? Change them via voting procedure. That's a democracy.

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spads

I've traveled extensively and lived in Eastern Europe and Russia. That region is famous for terrible customer service even today.

just a punk

You've traveled across your mom's basement only (that's clearly seen from your childish posts). Don't make me laugh @ you, boy

P.S. I have big doubts you're at least 18 yo. Extensive traveler, my ass

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kazbalah

Do you happen to know the history of Africa?

They have been fucked over by the white man for over 100 years, what are ya talking about?

The US and UK enslaved them, took people away from their families and friends, took them overseas and made them slaves.

The US has meddled in the whole affair, put dictators in, removed them, the multi nationals are raping Africa.

Please do your research before you make comments like this, you will look very foolish.

The US has ASS RAPED EVERYONE.

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but if you ask white US didnus they will say they dindu nuffin

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Russia is on the edge. We will see them keep eating shit for decades ahead.

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kazbalah

Im sorry to be one the one to tell you my friend, but its the US who should be worried.

Im not sure where you are from.. but the US dollar is about to collapse.

The power is about to shift.

China and Russia are now working together to sell oil and gas in YUAN or perhaps something else. This means the artificial demand for the US dollar will cease to exist, its the only thing propping up the dollar.

So once that goes, it will be a chain reaction sadly. The housing bubbles and the national debt, all the funky shit the wall street people have been doing will come home to roost.

Russia will be in a good position over there with China.

China has more of nearly everything now, ships, tanks, subs, men, helicopters etc.

Just depends if the Yanks will take us all down on the way out.. they have nukes and Rome did not.

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Chine is the first to start chewing Russia. Would be stupid of them to miss and not to.

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crockett

You don't seem to understand how much money is made in the US. No other country on this planet can compete with the massive amounts of money that is made by the US and by our companies world wide.

Let me put it simply for you.. The US isn't going anywhere anytime soon and Russia + China don't even equal half of the US GDP.


Russian GDP 14,611.70 USD (2013)
China GDP 6,807.43 USD (2013)


US GDP 53,041.98 USD (2013)

Phoenix

On top of that...how much of their GDP is dependent on the USA?

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kazbalah

I have a feeling i may understand the whole situation a bit more in depth then you think.

You can look at those numbers and come to your conclusion.

But you can go alot deeper and take into account all the factors.

What money is your country making? Shady pyramid schemes based on bad debt.

Do you know what the housing bubble is? The banks make money by creating debt.

So they lent out as much money to everyone and anyone, people who could never afford to pay it back.

Then they packaged up all those loans, and sold them to over seas investors. They said here is 10 billion worth of loans, paying 3-5% or whatever the rate was. What a great investment, solid housing loans.

Little did they know these are all garbage loans, and everyone has defaulted that's why the housing prices have dropped. Those loans were bad loans. The bankers did not care they made their cut.

Next, your money is printed at interest. Every new US dollar created has debt attached to it.

In the 80s or so a new law was passed giving the federal reserve the right to print money.

Who is the federal reserve? The government?

No its a private bank owned by rich people. Now every single dollar printed in the US, you have to give 3-5% extra back. Which means you can NEVER pay it back.

That's why your national debt is 17 trillion. You will never pay it back, America is broke.

If you understand the petro dollar, you will know why the US currency is strong. The whole world buys oil in the US dollar. That creates a MASSIVE demand for US dollars. Everything is traded in US dollars.

But when everything is NOT traded in US dollars, whats it worth? Toilet paper. You don't produce anything, all the income is from funky financial bullshit.

You have a few good tech companies like apple, and lots of hi technology products. But that will change in 20 years, your education system is failing and your not producing enough engineers and doctors, and the ones you do produce are from India and China - And they are all going back home in larger numbers now too.

And all your big companies are moving to China to cut down production costs.

I think you should watch these videos crockett, and if you think its conspiracy theory stuff your just brain washed to think that way. Its not on TV because the people who are doing this own the TV stations. It's pretty basic stuff to check out. Do your own research.

This first video is 5 minutes and shows very simply how the economic collapse will happen. It is inevitable.



This is a cartoon but explains very well what the federal reserve is, it runs for 30 minutes and shows how the federal reserve has jacked your money supply, research it yourself its all undisputed, just not public knowledge because they don't announce it all over the TV.



And this one explains the petro dollar - This is why America became to rich, and why it will collapse when the dollar is not currency all the oil is bought in. Thats why your GDP is so large.



This is probably the real reason the US went to iraq. Not to take the oil, they are not even pumping out much from what i hear. Its to keep the US dollar as the world reserve currency, to keep the world buying oil in US dollars.

Saddam was going to change to gold or euro, so was libya.. funny how they all got invaded. Iran is talking about doing the same thing. I wonder if they will find a reason to invade Iran...

But they can't do that to China and Russia.. and China and Russia are not both working on selling oil and gas in YUAN or something else.

Research it. Tell me im wrong, i dare ya

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kazbalah

I am not sure, i bet a large part it.

It doesn't matter tho. If you understand why the US is where it is now, you will understand why it will fall.

Someone tell me why is the US so rich? I just told you why, you can try to refute that but i do not like your chances

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kazbalah

I had to post up this one last video, this guy is one of the people who brokered some of these deals, was very high up and has written a book explaining it all.

He mentions how he helped broker a deal with OPEC to only sell oil in US dollars..

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just a punk

Don't be a clown. The GDP can be counted in local currency only. Because it's the INTERNAL thing (Domestic, сцуко, ты понимаешь это слово?) The official currency in Russia is ruble.

You've got your "education" in the USA, I guess?

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just a punk

He is a worthless Russian beggar from the Ukraine. He left his country for a "better life", because decided that Ukraine is doomed, so he threw mud at his Motherland and moved to Poland. After that he threw mud at Poland and moved to Italy. This misery and always drunk creature has no place on this planet to live. So he will continue moving again and again...

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Sid70

LOL. I was born in a fucking Soviet Union. Motherland? Are you nuts? I was robbed by the system down to my roots, why would I call it Motherland?

Regarding all the drunk things - this is your reality, you created your fictional me for yourself to add some sense to YOUR miserable rooski existence.

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just a punk

Can't say about the GDP because it's really hard to calculate how domestic product can be dependent on the other foreign country. But as about international trade, the USA is about 3%-4% from the whole Russian import/export volume.

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just a punk

The Ukraine is your motherland, clown. And you've just left it like a rat that lives a sinking ship. Why you're in Italy now? Why don't you fight like a man for your Motherland against Putin on Donbass, you brave keyboard warrior?

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Sid70

You can show it to your wife, say I commanded her to do so. Ah, shit, you have no wife, damn!

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crockett

Dont be so silly.. you can count gdp in any curency you want because we have world wide exchanges so rates between different curency is easily known.

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Sid70

I'm still curious why would anyone try discussing shit with rooski. He is a brain washed retarded coder.

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Sid70

YOU have a problem.

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just a punk

No it can't be. The internal product has no relation to foreign currencies. For example, the rate of ruble to dollar has changed. Does it mean that volume of domestic product (the money made inside the country) has changed the same way? If you think so, you are an idiot

A small lesson for uneducated kids ion GFY: counting of GDP is dollars is a joke. GDP is an internal (domestic) thing and must be calculated in national currencies only (Russia is not the USA and we do not print dollars like toilet paper). Also the ways of calculation are really funny. For example the UK and Italy add prostitution and drug-trafficking into their GDP (such a clever decision!) As about the USA, so I can easily show how its being calculated. Jack the redneck got a loan in some US bank (add this money to the US GDP), he bought a home (add this money to the US GDP), he paid taxes (add this money to the US GDP), his son joined the US army (add his salary to the US GDP) and been sent to Afghanistan (add the cost of the US Afghan company, weapon, bases etc to the US GDP). After a few months he was heroically killed there and send back to home in a coffin with stars and stripes (add the price of the coffin, transportation and funeral to the US GDP). A gravedigger was paid for it and paid his taxes as well (add this money to the US GDP). This is how GDP is being calculated So in fact, all those cosmic military expenses make your GDP higher and make your people poorer - there are no free medicine and education in the USA and a regular American lives for loans and credits (for example I have never took any credit/load in a whole my life). So forget about free medicine, free education etc and enjoy your huge GDP and national debt

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Если бы ты чмо, что-то блять вякнул о моей жене в моем присутствии, то я тебе ебало раскрошил и отпиннал твою тушку, пока ноги не устали. Я серьезно сейчас. Молись сука, чтобы мы никогда в жизни не пересеклись. Такого я не забываю.

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if US cut off food supply = world fucked
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klinton

heheh briliant

woj

you can spin it any way you want...

but the fact remains Russia's economic power/influence/etc is a small fraction of the US... doesn't matter if you call it GDP, or exactly how you count it (each country counts it in a similar way anyway) or if you measure it in USD or Rubles or cows....

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just a punk

I don't have to do anything. That's just a basics of economics. Every kid knows it.

Pfff... Only in your head, man I know you are ready to sacrifice the free medicine, the free education and other social things to make your army the most bigger and the most expensive one, but it doesn't change anything. We live in the era of nuclear weapon, so all that "power" gets easily leveled by e=mc^2 + the total amount of nukes. You can spend 1000's times more to your army and starve like Northern Koreans, but it won't give you a single chance to survive in case of a real war. You'll die like others in case of the war conflict with another superpower (Russia, China, whatever). That's not the same like fighting poor and dirty mofos somewhere in Afghanistan. All those useless spendings will spin your GDP and your national debt (you already owe most of your country to China ) as well as they will make your people poorer, but it's a one way ticket. You won't achieve such a high social level like in the most of the European countries anymore

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kazbalah

Here is a good example of your GDP manipulation.

China was buying all your debt. They stopped buying it. Your economy was about to collapse. Then Belgium i believe it was, bought like 2 or 300 billion worth. Although they did not have the money to do this... wonder where it came from? Was the yanks pumping more funny money into the system..

The wanks, sorry i mean the yanks are mostly good people. They are just dumb sheeple blinded by TV. Your TV stations are controlled by 6 companies, the people who are doing this can control what you see on TV, so you don't hear shit about this.

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kazbalah

100% true. You should look at the bunkers Russia is building, they just built the worlds largest known one, 400SQ Miles.

I wonder what they know that sheeples like crockett do not..

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kazbalah

Oh i did

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kazbalah

Yes you greedy fucks are already trying to do that.

Have you heard of Monsanto? No its not a new brand of doritoes.. its a company who makes genetically engineered seeds.

They then sell those seeds to dirt poor farmers in third world countries. The seeds are made so they do not germinate again. Which means you have to buy the seeds again.

So dirt poor people in India are getting ass raped into buying seeds they can't afford.

Were getting corn pumped with strains of viruses in them, to make them more resistant to bugs and what not.

Fuck you yanks are dumb.. go read a book or watch something that is not on FOX.

Your whole system has been jacked and your all too fucking dumb to see it.

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kazbalah

Im sorry to burst your bubble.. but the US is not a democracy. Its a plutocracy.. run by the rich people to benefit the rich people.

Your leaders jump in and out of government, they work at a chemical plant, then become the person who makes the laws about Chemical plants.. no conflict of interest there.

You have the appearance of choice, but really its the mega rich who run your country and install presidents.

You don't really think when you elect someone something is going to change? They are all the same people what are ya stupid or something?

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Wait so you guys cry that the US military spending is second to none.. then brag when Russians dig holes in the ground..

I hate to break it to you buddy, but if a war ever happens that those bunkers are needed to survive.. It's over anyway.. it's not worth sticking around..

So play along with your "you" know something everyone else doesn't routine. But the reality is, Russia just like China is keep people busy doing stupid shit like digging holes in the ground so your population doesn't stay drunk all the time.

In China they build empty cities which no one lives in to keep their busy bees busy. Russia digs holes in the ground..

In the US we actually build useful shit, because the people don't need the govt to hand them jobs digging holes.

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kazbalah

Its not that I know something everyone doesn't.

Its that me and everyone else around the world knows it. But you dumb yanks have your head up your arse so far you can't see shit.

China does build ghost cities. And then they are filled up in a year. 50 full cities, bigger then new york.

Russia is digging holes. What a simplistic view from a simplistic mind.

No they are preparing for nuclear war with the US.

Did you know sweden has enough bunkers for its whole population. China is building them. Russia is.

Oh but your bunkers are for your rich people. You won't be using them crockett i can tell you. But yaaaaay America, wave your flag you deluded fool.

Name something that the US produces crocket. Besides debt and war. Oh and MTV bullshit, propoganda.

But again your missing my point.

WHY IS THE US RICH.

BECAUSE THE PETRO DOLLAR.

PETRO DOLLAR IS ABOUT TO CHANGE

US WILL NOT BE ON TOP ANYMORE

Do you understand that crockett?

If you want to win this argument, its simple. Tell me how the US losing its position as the world reserve currency will not affect the US. Tell me how your going to stay on top..

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