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SplatterMaster 07-31-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JOKER (Post 19096478)

:thumbsup

SmutHammer 07-31-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19096487)
I hear this is also being blamed on AK:

India Blackout Leaves 300 Million Without Power

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1717735.html

:winkwink:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

johnnyloadproductions 07-31-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19096487)
About time.

In other news, I hear this is also being blamed on AK:



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1717735.html

:winkwink:

Without those affiliate payouts they can't pay the bills. :upsidedow

Paul Markham 07-31-2012 11:33 PM

Bump from the EU morning crew.

macker 08-01-2012 12:13 AM

Great job AK. Although it does make me wonder whether or not this will force the pirates into an adapt or die situation.

In which case, they could potentially start using a different platform, one that would be even more difficult to police or put a stop to.

Not that I'm saying do nothing, but I'm slightly concerned this could open a new can of worms that would present even greater challenges.

In many ways, this could be a fucked if you do and a fucked if you don't scenario.

Either way, kudos to you for taking action.

AdultKing 08-01-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by macker (Post 19096950)
Great job AK. Although it does make me wonder whether or not this will force the pirates into an adapt or die situation.

It's guaranteed that file lockers and pirates in general will adapt. The long term strategy is to reach beyond file lockers and disrupt as many other areas of piracy as possible, as they develop new strategies so will we.

macker 08-01-2012 12:31 AM

Can I add you on icq fella? There is something I want to run by you outside of public domain so to speak. Never know which fuckers are reading these threads. Cat and mouse. lol

mikke 08-01-2012 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19096487)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Nautilus 08-01-2012 04:21 AM

Oron.com is not loading for me. Can anyone please confirm?

Captain Kawaii 08-01-2012 05:01 AM

Down here:

Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at oron.com.

DWB 08-01-2012 05:09 AM

Oron is gone.

LB-69 08-01-2012 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19097253)
Oron is gone.

Cant believe it....:pimp

JOKER 08-01-2012 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19097187)
Oron.com is not loading for me. Can anyone please confirm?

That is a positive confirmation on my end. :pimp

RubyGoodnight 08-01-2012 06:13 AM

Just read this on WJunction:

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At this time we are in the process of moving Oron.com to another hosting provider. As soon as we finish this process we will post a notification on out site. We would like to apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused you.

Jel 08-01-2012 06:29 AM

from the xbiz article:

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Porn Guardian, incidentally, offers one creative solution that appears to be a moneymaker for some adult entertainment companies. Its Making Piracy Pay initiative works with file hosts to redirect illegal URLs to point to the legitimate files on the clients’ sites.

“We track traffic and sales, which enables us to quantify how much money is actually being lost due to piracy,” Ford said. “Plus, it generates sales for our clients from these would-be pirates. It’s an incredibly powerful program.”
But, but... freeloaders were NEVER going to pay for porn EVER, apparently? That's one hell of a quote, and would be extremely interesting to see the actual figures.

adultmobile 08-01-2012 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RubyGoodnight (Post 19097334)
Just read this on WJunction:

Maybe Oron decided to not pay the hosting bill at leaseweb at all, this is quite a saving. Next hosting provider take some risk however :)

Major (Tom) 08-01-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19097253)
Oron is gone.

you need to say that as you kick start your chopper like bruce willis in pulp fiction
lol
ds

Paul Markham 08-01-2012 09:32 AM

No one else thinks this is strange?

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At this time we are in the process of moving Oron.com to another hosting provider. As soon as we finish this process we will post a notification on out site. We would like to apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused you.
Unless they're physically taking the servers from one hosting to the next. Why would they take the site down. Also other questions, did leaseweb turn them off for not paying the bill, if they didn't pay the bill would leaseweb hand over the servers or hold onto them as collateral.

Seems like the shit has hit the fan, let the fun begin. :thumbsup

nikki99 08-01-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19097253)
Oron is gone.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

halfpint 08-01-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19097774)
No one else thinks this is strange?



Unless they're physically taking the servers from one hosting to the next. Why would they take the site down. Also other questions, did leaseweb turn them off for not paying the bill, if they didn't pay the bill would leaseweb hand over the servers or hold onto them as collateral.

Seems like the shit has hit the fan, let the fun begin. :thumbsup

My guess Paul is that they are moving to some offshore hosting where they can stick a fiinger up to DMCA and other requests. I dont think they will just pack up because they know they can make a lot of money from what they are doing

SplatterMaster 08-01-2012 11:07 AM

Oron has had a month to transfer files and databases. If they did that or not IDK. Maybe they?ll just start new somewhere else. They?re probably doing business under a couple of other names already. Seems to be a standard for file lockers. When one gets into trouble, close it and open a new one.

19teenporn 08-01-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19097937)
My guess Paul is that they are moving to some offshore hosting where they can stick a fiinger up to DMCA and other requests. I dont think they will just pack up because they know they can make a lot of money from what they are doing

Agrre. They are too big, they make too much money to just close doors and leaventhencash cow free out in the wild...

Paul Markham 08-01-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19097937)
My guess Paul is that they are moving to some offshore hosting where they can stick a fiinger up to DMCA and other requests. I dont think they will just pack up because they know they can make a lot of money from what they are doing

That won't make any difference to their processing vulnerability. If it is the case, why take one lot of servers down are they moving those as well?

DominicFord 08-01-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19097359)
from the xbiz article:
Porn Guardian, incidentally, offers one creative solution that appears to be a moneymaker for some adult entertainment companies. Its Making Piracy Pay initiative works with file hosts to redirect illegal URLs to point to the legitimate files on the clients’ sites.

“We track traffic and sales, which enables us to quantify how much money is actually being lost due to piracy,” Ford said. “Plus, it generates sales for our clients from these would-be pirates. It’s an incredibly powerful program.”


But, but... freeloaders were NEVER going to pay for porn EVER, apparently? That's one hell of a quote, and would be extremely interesting to see the actual figures.

We are extremely proud of this program. The idea that freeloaders will never pay for porn is a MYTH. Does that mean EVERY pirate will pay for porn? No, of course not. Far from it. But our clients are seeing a lot of joins, and a ton of traffic, from the file hosting sites in our "Making Piracy Pay" program. The further intent of the program is to take the affiliate portion of the join and put it towards our monthly fee. That way these converted pirates are actually paying for our services instead of our fee coming out of the budgets of the producers.

We have a LOT of data that proves just how valuable this "pirate" traffic can be, and what kinds of users convert to legal users, which is very important as our clients need to prove losses in a court of law based on the existence of file hosts and tubes that distribute their files illegally. The actual data really shatters a lot of myths I think.

Having said that, I feel like the geeky set using usenet or die-hard torrent types will never pay for content. But your run-of-the-mill file host downloader will if there are no other easy options.

As people have often said here and elsewhere: make it easy, high quality, convenient and cheap to get it legally and people will.

Hit me up privately (pornguardian.com) for more information if you have any questions.

best,
Dominic

seeandsee 08-01-2012 01:44 PM

File Lockers in motion!

19teenporn 08-01-2012 02:19 PM

Kill filelockers!

AdultKing 08-01-2012 06:05 PM

Oron may spring up somewhere else, however the operators of Oron would be foolish to think that they are invincible.

ramzzy 08-01-2012 08:02 PM

depositfiles.com seems to be taking over.

AdultKing 08-01-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ramzzy (Post 19099069)
depositfiles.com seems to be taking over.

Really ?

Paul Markham 08-01-2012 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19098950)
Oron may spring up somewhere else, however the operators of Oron would be foolish to think that they are invincible.

Loss of trust. :upsidedow

Will cost them a lot.

19teenporn 08-01-2012 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19099108)
Really ?

Love the sound of that irony.

You have something cooking!

AdultKing 08-02-2012 12:11 AM

We're working and chipping away at some of the larger players in this game. These larger sites take a lot more work, which is not as spectacular as knocking off dozens of smaller file lockers in one fell swoop.

There are many groups working to shut down commercial copyright infringement. The suit against Oron showed that even the biggest sites are vulnerable when you target their financial base. It's obvious that the freezing of Oron's assets, which was widely reported, was a highly effective strategy.

Triple-A 08-02-2012 01:23 AM

Here's to the continual freezing of Filelockers assets :thumbsup

AdultKing 08-02-2012 01:41 AM

Some recent Paypal terminations

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sharebee.com
filevelocity.com
giftshop24.net
premium4.me
bzlink.us
fileduct.net
multi-debrid.com
jumbofiles.org

We believe that all these sites have been terminated by Paypal in the last week. We do not believe any of them may process through Paypal again, however Paypal always deals with these matters on a case by case basis.

NOTES Copy Control does not claim responsibility for these or any other Paypal terminations. Many organisations work to deal with infringing sites. Some of these sites may have been reported earlier then re-reported as they continued to process with Paypal. This information is current at the time of publication and is subject to change.

19teenporn 08-02-2012 02:22 AM

Fucking loving it!

IanUK 08-02-2012 02:42 AM

It's great fun following this, Furk for example keeps giving 'premium features for free' basically because they keep losing their PayPal :)

Oron is back btw, still on Leaseweb by the looks...

kazbalah 08-02-2012 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie Gardner (Post 19027337)
After eBay bought PayPal, there was a period of time in which PayPal stopped handling hardcore porn. When this happened, I warned S.S. Crompton (the current publisher of Carnal Comics) about the change in paypal policy. He thought his x-rated comic books would not violate paypal's policy change. He was wrong, his paypal account was frozen so he could not get money out of it. Years later, PayPal went back to allowing hardcore porn.

Paypal does not allow pornography of any kind.

I setup a paypal account to test a new site im working on, i did a 1$ test payment - And my account was shut down within 24 hours.

Hey good luck adultking - I luv what your doing :)

LouiseLloyd 08-02-2012 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kazbalah (Post 19099385)
Paypal does not allow pornography of any kind.

That's what I thought but pretty sure I recall seeing an email from freeones last week stating they now accept paypal?

Paul Markham 08-02-2012 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kazbalah (Post 19099385)
Paypal does not allow pornography of any kind.

I think they exploit a loop hole of it being for a faster downloading service. Until Paypal comes out as strongly against piracy as it does for porn. It will be a drawn out fight.

AdultKing 08-02-2012 04:13 AM

We found this site today

http://www.officeproductkey.eu

Which just goes to show how blatant piracy is. This site was reported to us because apparently the site delivers customers download links from file lockers in return for their payment.


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