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Interesting article on the PSYCHOLOGY of pricing
Psychological "price anchors" might apply to online purchases as well. Here's an excerpt on 'price anchors':
Is $279 a lot of money to spend on an automatic bread maker? When Williams-Sonoma first marketed these then-novel gadgets more than 20 years ago, no shopper knew what a bread maker ought to cost, and Williams-Sonoma didn't sell a lot of them. Then it introduced a deluxe, $450 model. The company didn't sell many of these either, but sales of the $279 model went through the roof. The deluxe bread maker made the regular one seem like a bargain. Conclusion: We are affected by anchors whether it's rational or not, whether we want to be or not. http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...ome-commentary |
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P.S. wish I could find the science article I read about pricing and the number 7 in it. You would of gotten a kick out of it.
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yaa , i did some numbering in marketing back in the day
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pretty interesting. I would love to read the #7 article youre talkin about ASM. You got me curious
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you mean like 27.95$ would sell better than 26.95$ ?
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Boiled down to more volume is done when a price ends with a .07 or .77 Showed that consumers have been trained to expect .95 or .99 and when they see .07 or .77 they associate it with a bargain or sale. Also went into the association of 7 being considered a lucky number but no evidence suggested that went into the buying thought.
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No, 26.07 or 26.77 would sell better according to them, same with the 27.07 or 27.77 price.
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actualy i remember learning that odd numbers are better then even numbers
since most people don't easly divide or multiply the number .. actualy 27.95 is alot better then 26.95 but 27.57 is even better then that ![]() |
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that was interesting!
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i've heard that 7 thing before but we always make better sales with a price that ends in .95.
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Both are very interesting and do make sense. Im going to look into this a lil more. ![]()
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Pretty interesting stuff, maybe I should add deluxe memberships to my site to boost the normal ones
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erotica is an emotional impulse sale and may differ from other more rational purchases.
in fact, for many a higher price for erotica connotes the concept of "hotter" or more exclusive and a lower price may actually sell less units. |
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$17, $27, etc.
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interesting read
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You should just add: "Limited time offer: now from [higher price] for only [current price]!". There, now you have surfers thinking they are getting a bargain.
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How many sponsors will update their prices?
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interesting stuff
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They did a study with mustard. One they priced at like $1.99. And another one they priced at like $3.99. Same mustard. Packaging I forget.
The higher priced one out sold the cheaper one, because the higher price connoted quality. Sometimes a higher price sells better than a lower price.
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It really isn't as simple as that.
In another thread today I mentioned how odd it was to come to the US and see regular grocery brands (in the UK and Europe) pitched and priced as premium brands here. But it isn't solely that they have a higher price: all the marketing associated with them combines to create the impression that the higher price is justified. Googling "consumer price sensitivity" produces over 6 million results. To get an idea how complex a topic it is, just scan through some of the articles on the first page. The first thing which becomes clear is that price sensitivity varies according to the type of product or service concerned. Secondly, price sensitivity is frequently made greater (or dampened down) by other factors associated with the particular market. In short if you grab one message relating to this field and apply it out of context, you are likely to come badly unstuck. |
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I definitely would love to read that. There's also a study out there that measures the NUMBER OF TIMES people have to see ad copy or an ad's call to action before they actually act on it.
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I'm glad I ran into this. I'm about to launch a new service package
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I wonder how much books about the psychology of pricing cost...
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Well $5 submissions, I did spend a good two hours trying to find it today and no damn luck. So much crap in the engines now adays.
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like when you play golf it's better to yell 3.99 than 4
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buhahaha.
Back to serious now since this is one of the rare moments on gfy where there is a business related non drama would you hit it thread. Few other things I have either learned or studied a lot about concerning pricing. If you want a true high end feel, there never should be any cents after the price. Use a solid hard round dollar figure. The cents denote bargain. When pricing figure out what sort of consumption you desire. Naturally most consider porn an impulse purchase so this one could be argumentative. Typically consumers want to grab their value as soon as they can after buying the product. They desire to feel they have used up their value as quick as they can. So one should consider this factor when it comes to billing and presenting them with a price. Which oddly brings me to my next one. Unbundle your prices. 29.70 a month is just that. Now .99 a day makes it seem even that much more affordable. Combined with the above reference as well as say longer join options like "three months for less than a dollar a day" makes it very more attractive. I could go on... but I will wait.
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Nice link. Will check it out, thanks.
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Its one thing to be creative, but it has to remain accurate and legitimate. I suppose the limited time pricing thing could work because you didnt say how long "limited" is, and you could end it at any time so I suppose that would prolly fly. Just be careful, is all I am saying. |
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It basically has to do with the fact that (as he showed) the brain recodes from a base-two arithmetic to a base-four arithmetic. However, there have been plenty of urban legends grown from that study. Have a look on Wikipedia
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hhmmm well selling less for more seems to work for coca cola and other brands
not sure about elsehwhere in the world but a can of coke 375ml used to sell for avg price of $1.50AUD , then then changed the can to the shape of redbull tall and slender and dropped 30mls out of the can so now its 345ml , and upped the price to $1.80 , using the excuse that market research showed that's what the consumer wanted |
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theres a company here in s fla named brands mart - huge warehouse type place, they buy in volume and pass along the sacings ect.
every price for every product ends in 88 or priced with an 8. example - 28.88, 18.88, 38 .88 click the link to check out there add - its nuts http://www.brandsmartusa.net/afl/p1.htm ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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That is some cool article there! Thank you
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There are certain numbers that appeal to our subconscious mind. We
like things that come in twos (salt and pepper, eggs and ham), threes (Three Blind Mice, three wishes, and three chances), and tens (of course, we have ten fingers and ten toes, so this one is only natural!) One of the most powerful numbers that triggers a subconscious response is the number seven. (Think Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs, Lucky number 7, and seven days in the week.) With this in mind, here are seven ways to incorporate the "magic" of the number seven into your marketing: 1. Pricing- Use a price ending in 7 for your product. Whether you stay with whole numbers ($17, $27, $67) or not ($19.97, $24.97, or even $37.77!), try adding some "seven magic" to your pricing structure and note the difference. 2. Headlines- Test your headlines with and without a 7 in them. You may be surprised at the results! The seven doesn't need to stand alone- you can use it within whatever number you may have in your headline (change 1800% to 1700%, or $562 to $567) and it will have the same effect. If you don't have a number in your current headline, work one in- with a 7 included, of course! 3. Follow-up- You've probably heard this before: Prospects need to see your message several times before they act. In fact, it usually takes (want to guess?) SEVEN exposures to your offer before they are ready to buy! When you create follow-up messages, usually by an autoresponder series, don't stop writing until you've reached number seven- unless, of course, you don't want to make the sale! 4. Titles- Use "7" in your ebook, report, and article titles. For example, "7 Deadly Mistakes You Can't Afford To Make In Your E-Business" or "How You Can Create Info-Products In 7 Short Hours". 5. Deadlines- Compare "Place your order this week, and you'll get..." with "Place your order in the next 7 days, and you'll get...". Same time limit, but the number creates more urgency in the mind of your reader. (Even though they probably translate the statement in their mind as, "Gosh! I better order now- I only have a week!") 6. Bonuses- Pay attention to the sales letters you see this week. Of those who offer more than three bonuses (the most common), you'll notice that there tends to be seven! Why? Because it feels RIGHT. 7. Tips- When offering a list of tips on your site or in articles (such as this one!), group them into "sevens." Even if you don't number them, a list of seven items is more appealing visually than six or eight. Now, you may be thinking that this is a bunch of, well...hooey. But there is a strong psychological connection to the number seven that we humans feel. Mirroring this connection while marketing your product makes your prospects feel comfortable, and the more comfortable they are with you the more likely they are to buy- so try using the "magic" of the number 7 where you can! http://www.contentmart.com/ContentMa...D=31&content=1 |
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When I was in wholesale, I use to try the price game $99.95 etc
It didnt work at all, When I made it $100 flat, the phone started to ring.. If that means anything to anyone <shrug> |
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The main reason you cannot simply take marketing "tricks" out of context and apply them universally is that we have a variety of expectations of different products and services. Those expectations change, not only between one sector and another, but even between competing products. For example, we expect different things from the presentation of a premium brand of coffee than we do from a cheap brand. IMO one of the reasons that cheap porn sites were less than a roaring success was that most were made to look like premium sites (and that was often the sales pitch too). That combination only served to convince people they would not get what was being promised. Marketing is about understanding the triggers for the specific audience with which you are dealing. The biggest weakness of online porn in this area is that generally we go for a one-size-fits-all approach, at most changing colors and fonts for different categories. It's an appealing idea that a certain type of site can appeal to everyone interested in the content it offers, but it isn't realistic. The way we work, the presentation of our sites defines the audience to which we end up selling, rather than the design, price and sales pitch being defined by the audience we intend to target. |
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So should you change your name to $19 Deluxe submissions and then watch your $5 submissions stock go through the roof? :D
Seriously though, price points/anchors are a huge part of marketing whether it be online or offline. People still associate the cent rule to online purchases as well. $12.95 looks like more of a bargain than $13 to the average buyer even though its only 5 cents. and of course putting a deluxe model at a much higher price next to the product you want to sell makes it look all that much better. One of the mainstream services I work with has a $14.95 option and the next step up is $19.95 and you get double the service/product. we will get a few cheap people testing out the $14.95 option, but the bulk of the buyers go for the $19.95 option.
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