Diet Sodas will Make You FAT

[czarina]

A study conducted by the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio followed over six hundred people ranging from twenty-five to sixty-four years old for up to eight years and found that those drinking diet soda ? even as little as one can or bottle a day ? did not lose weight and were significantly more likely to become overweight than those who drank regular soft drinks or none at all.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...xzz12LpLE xds

[Emil]

nevermind

[Rick Diculous]

Sounds interesting. Saving this for later

[u-Bob]

not surprised at all

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by czarina

A study conducted by the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio followed over six hundred people ranging from twenty-five to sixty-four years old for up to eight years and found that those drinking diet soda ? even as little as one can or bottle a day ? did not lose weight and were significantly more likely to become overweight than those who drank regular soft drinks or none at all.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...xzz12LpLE xds

I KNEW IT! all this time, I thought it was because I was eating fast food and not exercising, but its all the diet coke I drink. Those fuckers!

[Spudstr]

Soda period will make you fat.

Drink water. Best thing for you.

[blackmonsters]

I've been saying that for a couple of decades.

Why is some stupid study needed for people to see things for what they are?

I mean, fat MoFo's drink it everyday and keep getting fatter. So why couldn't people
just see that and quit?

I can't wait for the "lite beer" study to come out.

[PR_Glen]

it has zero calories in it.. its not making anyone fat.. it's the people drinking it with two big macs that are getting fat...

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

it has zero calories in it.. its not making anyone fat.. it's the people drinking it with two big macs that are getting fat...

thats what I believe
Maybe it's the artificial sweetner, but I doubt it, I just think people think they are safe to drink it and eat more in it's place.
I remember when I switched to diet soda years ago, I lost 20 pounds

[Max Cannon]

Yes the problem is with a sweetner and preservatives. If you don't eat anything with preservatives it will be impossible for you to get fat.

You have to eat food that can spoil so you body can shit it out. When food has preservatives it doesn't spoil and stays in your body, that's how people get fat.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Max Cannon

Yes the problem is with a sweetner and preservatives. If you don't eat anything with preservatives it will be impossible for you to get fat.

You have to eat food that can spoil so you body can shit it out. When food has preservatives it doesn't spoil and stays in your body, that's how people get fat.

interesting, do you have a link or 2 where i can read more about this?

[alias]

It is the sodium.

[kristin]

Yeah, I remember a study done on rats a few years back with diet v. regular soda and it made no difference because of the sweeteners and there is more acid in diet sodas.

[Tom_PM]

"Zero" calories in the US really means anywhere from 2 down to 0 calories. I always consider a zero calorie item as 2 calories. The FDA says it's ok.

I mean, I realise that something like 1 packet of splenda being zero or 2 calories seems small. But when you have a box of 700 of them that you use in a month, it clearly adds up to more than zero. 1400 is zero? lol.

[Scott McD]

People fall for anything...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by kristin

there is more acid in diet sodas.

i've been reading about this lately, i didn't realize how important the body's ph is but it is.

[Wizzo]

Originally Posted by Spudstr

Soda period will make you fat.

Drink water. Best thing for you.

[Serge Litehead]

i did a study on my own, for three decades i eat pretty much anything. i'm skinny as they come.
its not only what you eat, its how you burn it.
if you don't move much for instance one good meal a day with little snacks is sufficient to keep you going and staying in good weight & shape. if you do lots of physical - your body naturally will require more foods. but being slave to your appetite is no good. stuffing your body 3 times a day without significant sweating in between = instant fat.

[Max Cannon]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

interesting, do you have a link or 2 where i can read more about this?

I don't have a link but it's general knowledge I've lived with to not get fat.

For example you can get the skinniest person that never gets fat and make them eat McDonalds everyday and guaranteed they will get fat because McDonalds food will never spoil, even after 5 years and you will never digest that food

If you eat something like an apple or any kind of food that will naturally rot then there is no way you can get fat because it can only stay in your body for so long before it has to recycle itself back into the earth.

So its very easy and you never have to read any food labels or count calories. Just ask yourself before you eat a food "will this food spoil/rot?" If the answer is yes then it is good!

[kristin]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I remember when I switched to diet soda years ago, I lost 20 pounds

Was that the only diet/nutritional change you made at that time, was just going to diet sodas?

[seeandsee]

I HEARD ABOUT THIS STUDY, they feeded mouses with sugar and those "sugar" used in diet cokes etc. And guess what mouses got more weight later?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Max Cannon

I don't have a link but it's general knowledge I've lived with to not get fat.

For example you can get the skinniest person that never gets fat and make them eat McDonalds everyday and guaranteed they will get fat because McDonalds food will never spoil, even after 5 years and you will never digest that food

If you eat something like an apple or any kind of food that will naturally rot then there is no way you can get fat because it can only stay in your body for so long before it has to recycle itself back into the earth.

So its very easy and you never have to read any food labels or count calories. Just ask yourself before you eat a food "will this food spoil/rot?" If the answer is yes then it is good!

i'm not so sure about your hypothesis. not trying to discount your personal experience but fact is eat more cals than you burn and fat is the result.

[Tom_PM]

Bob the trainer on the Biggest Loser tv show said the same thing last show, Max. He showed the contestants his fridge at his home. It didnt have much in it, because the items he buys would all spoil inside of 2 weeks he said. Went on to describe what you just did, and it makes common sense.

[woj]

gee maybe those that drink diet soda are already fat and have worse eating habits?

In other news, breakthrough discovery! Those that frequently go to the doctor tend to be more sick....

[erooup]

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Bob the trainer on the Biggest Loser tv show said the same thing last show, Max. He showed the contestants his fridge at his home. It didnt have much in it, because the items he buys would all spoil inside of 2 weeks he said. Went on to describe what you just did, and it makes common sense.

that doesn't take into account the extreme activity those contestants do. 5-8 hours of exercise daily. while it's hard to overeat on natural foods, the fact remains, if i consume 5000 calories of pork and my net expenditure is 3000 cals burned, i am not going to shit the excess 2000 cals.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by kristin

Was that the only diet/nutritional change you made at that time, was just going to diet sodas?

Yeah that was it, I drink a lot of soda, more than I should. Last month I started cutting back, drinking water more, only a couple cups of coffee.

[ottopottomouse]

Not surprised at all as its always fat cunts with 16 bigmacs, 18 fries, 17 apple pies, and 23 m&m mcflurrys that wash it all down with just a diet coke.

[djswivle]

Originally Posted by erooup

great vid, old but good one.

[Emil]

The funny thing is that they still dont know. Maybe diet sodas is still better if you want to lose weight if you have to choose between diet and regular.

You just have to stop eating other junk that the diet soda can make you want to put in your fat mouth.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Max Cannon

I don't have a link but it's general knowledge I've lived with to not get fat.

For example you can get the skinniest person that never gets fat and make them eat McDonalds everyday and guaranteed they will get fat because McDonalds food will never spoil, even after 5 years and you will never digest that food

If you eat something like an apple or any kind of food that will naturally rot then there is no way you can get fat because it can only stay in your body for so long before it has to recycle itself back into the earth.

So its very easy and you never have to read any food labels or count calories. Just ask yourself before you eat a food "will this food spoil/rot?" If the answer is yes then it is good!

I think there is a little truth to this theory, but preservatives in food saves more lives than you think, we wouldn't have the choices of food we do without preservatives in them, and food would be much more expensive without them.

in the end no food or drink is going to save you, exercise is the only way, even if its only a little walk every day you can make big changes.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Not surprised at all as its always fat cunts with 16 bigmacs, 18 fries, 17 apple pies, and 23 m&m mcflurrys that wash it all down with just a diet coke.

[Serge Litehead]

"diet" foods are poor excuse to keep food obsession on. without burning off excessive intake consumption it won't help much.

[CamJack]

diet sodas trick your body into thinking its getting sugar.
you essentially eat twice the volume of food that you would normally eat to compensate for the lack of sugar

[Tom_PM]

Yeah the big loser people are in for shocks when they get home and realise that now they need to workout like crazy still every day to maintain.

But the fridge thing was the trainers, and it was just him showing them how he eats every day and sort of a dumbed down, generalization sort of thing. I think it clicked in a few peoples heads that their own fridges were not helping them be healthy by comparison.

I was more impressed that the kicked-off contestant had started walking her kids to school and home instead of driving, and had made other real-world changes in her own behavior and had lost like 100 lbs or so.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Yeah the big loser people are in for shocks when they get home and realise that now they need to workout like crazy still every day to maintain.

But the fridge thing was the trainers, and it was just him showing them how he eats every day and sort of a dumbed down, generalization sort of thing. I think it clicked in a few peoples heads that their own fridges were not helping them be healthy by comparison.

I was more impressed that the kicked-off contestant had started walking her kids to school and home instead of driving, and had made other real-world changes in her own behavior and had lost like 100 lbs or so.

it's a crazy show, when i 1st tuned in i thought the show covered a several month period due to the extreme amount of weight lost but after poking around realized it's over a several week period- crazy!

that being said, i certainly do not want to devalue the importance of eating healthy, whole foods. and it really is extremely difficult to overeat those sorts of foods.

[dyna mo]

doing a bit of pokign around re: preservatives and obesity. came across this

An important preservative is a salt called Ajinamoto. Chemically it is called Monosodium glutamate or MSG. Research studies have revealed that MSG is an Excitotoxin. These are substances stimulate the cells in the brain called the Neurons. As a result, they get damaged and die. Unfortunately, there is no mechanism in the humans which can separate this toxin substance from the blood and stop it from entering the brain. The region of the brain called Hypothalamus gets affected by the MSG. The damaged caused to this section of the brain leads to abnormalities in the body. One such abnormality is Obesity.

[ottopottomouse]

Talking of TV shows has made me think of one here called Supersize vs Superskinny where they take someone who is enormous and someone who is far too thin and have them swap diets.

[will76]

Originally Posted by czarina

A study conducted by the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio followed over six hundred people ranging from twenty-five to sixty-four years old for up to eight years and found that those drinking diet soda ? even as little as one can or bottle a day ? did not lose weight and were significantly more likely to become overweight than those who drank regular soft drinks or none at all.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...xzz12LpLE xds

Drinking diet drinks wont make you fat, but it also wont cause you to lose weight either. Its a neutral product like drinking water, zero calories, so drinking it isn't going to cause you to gain weight. If you want to lose weight you need to either exercise or diet (or both), not just simply drink diet drinks.

maybe the people in the study thought all they had to do was drink diet drinks, who knows the mentality of some people. But I bet you if the same people drank non diet drinks they would have gained even more weight then they did.

[dyna mo]

more infos i just read on the hypothalamus gland & obesity

an "organic" form of obesity is seen in patients who suffer damage to an area at the base of the brain called the hypothalamus. This area, the size of a fingernail, whose primary function is to release hormones which control the function of the pituitary gland immediately below it, also controls energy balance. Damage to this area has long been known to promote excessive eating (hyperphagia) and weight gain, termed "hypothalamic obesity." This form of weight gain is not responsive to diet and exercise. Victims of this form of obesity continue to gain weight despite their best efforts, and suffer greatly from this unrelenting scourge.

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the ventromedial hypothalamus (VMH) integrates (brain) and peripheral (pancreas) signals to control energy balance. VMH damage from tumors, surgery, or radiation leads to insulin overproduction, probably mediated through the vagus nerve. Children with hypothalamic obesity overproduce insulin, a process that results in sustained and sometimes unrelenting weight gain. Some obese adults (without brain tumors) also overproduce insulin" as a result of increased activity of the vagus nerve.

[will76]

When I switched to diet drinks about 8 years ago I lost about 10-15 pounds over the course of a month. Nothing else in my diet changed, i didn't exercise more the only difference was to stop consuming about 1500+ calories a day in sugar from soft drinks and sports drinks.

Drinking diet doesn't cause you to want to eat more unless it is a mental thing and people think that they *can* eat more or bad because they are drinking a diet drink vs a regular one. I can see how people's mentality can fuck it up, but that just goes back to stupid people do stupid things and can be applied to anything.

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by will76

When I switched to diet drinks about 8 years ago I lost about 10-15 pounds over the course of a month. Nothing else in my diet changed, i didn't exercise more the only difference was to stop consuming about 1500+ calories a day in sugar from soft drinks and sports drinks.

Drinking diet doesn't cause you to want to eat more unless it is a mental thing and people think that they *can* eat more or bad because they are drinking a diet drink vs a regular one. I can see how people's mentality can fuck it up, but that just goes back to stupid people do stupid things and can be applied to anything.

Slight changes is all it takes sometimes. I remember a few years ago I quit drinking for 3-4months, I dropped 15lbs within weeks. Need to quit the booze again and drop 10lbs, lol

[minicivan]

the article does not say "diet sodas will make you fat" it says "Calorie-Free Soft Drinks May Make You Fat". They showed nothing to suggest a cause and effect relationship. All they suggested was that people who drink diet soft drinks are most likely to not lose fat or to gain fat. Go into any McDonalds and watch the herd eating their 1500 calorie lunch with a diet coke and its pretty easy to understand that finding. Forgetting about anyones psuedo-science and conspiracy theories about nutrasweet or anything else, people rationalize eating more and eating worse by drinking diet soda.

[Serge Litehead]

Will, that probably was 10-15 pounds of excessive body water. i doubt fat would go away that fast without any extra effort

[strobi]

If you drink 1.5 liter of regular coke/day and you switch to 1.5 liter of diet Coke you WILL lose fat (if everything else stays the same, diet, etc). You consume 630 kcal/day LESS!!! This isn't rocket science.

[Tom_PM]

You can brew your own soda. Just some flavor extract, some sweetner of your choice, some water, some plastic bottles and some champagne yeast (or keg it).

[strobi]

Originally Posted by holograph

Will, that probably was 10-15 pounds of excessive body water. i doubt fat would go away that fast without any extra effort

If he indeed reduce his daily intake by 1500 kcals, just by dropping massive amounts of sugar drinks, he would indeed lose fat fasssstttt. 10-15 pounds would be possible, easy even!

[Serge Litehead]

how can you guys drink soda all the time? diet or not, its like bad childhood habit carried through life..

[urbanpimp]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

it has zero calories in it.. its not making anyone fat.. it's the people drinking it with two big macs that are getting fat...

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