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signupdamnit 01-09-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19416951)
With all honesty...
Don't you know that PlugRush, EroAdvertising, JuicyAds, TrafficHolder, etc are the only sources to monetize warez sites? They are a huge share of your traffic and there's no problem for you to recognize and ban them if you'd like to.
But your business rely on them. You've banned some little guy, but u don't mind to contribute by banning some major ones.

I smell hypocrisy

Those traffic brokers are another challenge for the industry. They all are full with flees and should be abused in every possible way.

Another issue is that plugrush and Juicyads pay advertisers in a way which is subject to supply and demand. The effect of those additional pirate sites coming in and flooding the market with millions of pirate clicks lowers demand for the legitimate publishers and lowers the rates we get paid.

If these traffic brokers would purge their sites of these sites it would probably increase the payments to legitimate publishers and improve productivity for paysite related products. As it is now legitimate publishers see their earnings fall in part because the market with these brokers is being flooded with millions of clicks from pirate sites.

Fat Panda 01-09-2013 12:37 PM

keep up the good work adultking!

dgraves 01-09-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19417153)
Yes, as I said we do this every day.

I wont explain the process as we don't want to give the bad guys insight into how we monitor them.

Email sent to clarify my question. I realize you guys do it but I was asking to find out if "I" can do this as a content producer without buying a membership and supporting their theft.

Triple-A 01-09-2013 12:58 PM

I take it avangate now have nothing to do with luckyshare.net or do LS still rely on their services? Their payment options seem limited and hardly mainstream but maybe they cater to the Russians more than Western freeloaders and affiliates etc.

Last time I had an issue with LS I cc'd avangate and they removed 50 infringing links almost immediately

MrDeiz 01-09-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19417172)
Another issue is that plugrush and Juicyads pay advertisers in a way which is subject to supply and demand. The effect of those additional pirate sites coming in and flooding the market with millions of pirate clicks lowers demand for the legitimate publishers and lowers the rates we get paid.

If these traffic brokers would purge their sites of these sites it would probably increase the payments to legitimate publishers and improve productivity for paysite related products. As it is now legitimate publishers see their earnings fall in part because the market with these brokers is being flooded with millions of clicks from pirate sites.

yeah. we are the only two who care and there is Adult King who actually does it

that's great :helpme:321GFY

Plugrush 01-09-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19416571)
Surely you can disable widgets ? It would be a better deterrent to do so as to outside observers they still seem to be using Plugrush.

EDIT: After thinking about this for a while, we are going to figure out how to just remove the widget from the website.

MrDeiz 01-09-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Plugrush (Post 19417454)
EDIT: After thinking about this for a while, we are going to figure out how to just remove the widget from the website.

are you going to get other warez sites disabled from Plugrush network?
that would be a great example set to others.

otherwise it doesn't make any sense. if you disable one and keep hundreds or probably thousands of others with exactly the same "content" :2 cents:

Plugrush 01-09-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19417493)
are you going to get other warez sites disabled from Plugrush network?
that would be a great example set to others.

otherwise it doesn't make any sense. if you disable one and keep hundreds or probably thousands of others with exactly the same "content" :2 cents:

Here's the problem man, we have tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of websites in our system...we do not have the time nor the staff to go looking at every single website...If we were to hire people to do this, the rates we pay out to webmasters would drop, and this isn't something we want to do. So, we have the e-mail [email protected], and we are also active on this board helping to deal with problems just like this one.

MrDeiz 01-09-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Plugrush (Post 19417496)
Here's the problem man, we have tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of websites in our system...we do not have the time nor the staff to go looking at every single website...If we were to hire people to do this, the rates we pay out to webmasters would drop, and this isn't something we want to do. So, we have the e-mail [email protected], and we are also active on this board helping to deal with problems just like this one.

nice. that's pretty much a lot. let's see what your word is worth and thanks for such position.

Plugrush 01-09-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19417503)
nice. that's pretty much a lot. let's see what your word is worth and thanks for such position.

Our word has already been proven again and again, we already had talks with the user Adult King and told him we were willing to work with him, which we have just proven.

AdultKing 01-09-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19417195)
Email sent to clarify my question. I realize you guys do it but I was asking to find out if "I" can do this as a content producer without buying a membership and supporting their theft.

Replied, although my reply was probably not as detailed as you would like.

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Originally Posted by Triple-A (Post 19417216)
I take it avangate now have nothing to do with luckyshare.net or do LS still rely on their services? Their payment options seem limited and hardly mainstream but maybe they cater to the Russians more than Western freeloaders and affiliates etc. Last time I had an issue with LS I cc'd avangate and they removed 50 infringing links almost immediately

You can find the full complement of payment processors for LuckyShare by reviewing this page:

http://luckyshare.net/premium

Avangate were acting at the time because of actions we were taking which may have resulted in them losing the ability to process Visa, Mastercard and Paypal.

Avangate are not out of the woods in this regard, we are considering further action against them as other matters have come to our attention.

I am unable to elaborate beyond this at this stage.

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Originally Posted by Plugrush (Post 19417454)
EDIT: After thinking about this for a while, we are going to figure out how to just remove the widget from the website.

This is the correct course of action, thank you.

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Originally Posted by Plugrush (Post 19417508)
Our word has already been proven again and again, we already had talks with the user Adult King and told him we were willing to work with him, which we have just proven.

I believe Plugrush should be given the opportunity to do the right thing, they have said they will work with us, as stated above, let's give them some breathing space to sort through the various issues that arise.

19teenporn 01-10-2013 06:25 AM

Here's a christmas eve bump

DWB 01-10-2013 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 19teenporn (Post 19418307)
Here's a christmas eve bump

Wow, 2013 flew by in a flash. Seems like it only lasted a couple of weeks.

MrDeiz 01-11-2013 01:35 AM

all major filelockers are offering CC payments again
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http://turbobit.net/turbo/emoney/12
http://dfiles.ru/gold/payment.php

AdultKing 01-11-2013 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19419777)

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kyro 01-11-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19416806)
It's a question of resources. This is time consuming and expensive work, we are very low on funds therefore need to prioritize, so while we are collecting evidence on LuckyShare, we are not in a position to deal with it as fully as we would like to right now.

are you low on funds because manwin stopped paying you? i still do not understand why you took his money. you went after time hardcore then he paid you and you were bro bro and now he stops paying you, does that mean he is fair game again ?

kyro 01-11-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19419777)

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AdultKing 01-11-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kyro (Post 19420254)
are you low on funds because manwin stopped paying you?

No. We are low on funds because running our operation is expensive and the amount of income we have received is less than the cost of operation.

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i still do not understand why you took his money. you went after time hardcore then he paid you and you were bro bro and now he stops paying you, does that mean he is fair game again ?
We'll take contributions from anyone, they don't influence what we will do or not do.

I know that you're trolling, hiding like a gutless wonder behind a fake nick because you're not man enough to put your name to what you ask, however I've answered to clarify for anyone else who might read this and be misled by your crap.

DWB 01-11-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kyro (Post 19420254)
i still do not understand why you took his money.

Why wouldn't he take Manwin's money? Funding is funding. The goal is stop file lockers. You do that however you have to. I believe he first thought about going after Manwin's tubes but there isn't much to go on there as they are not breaking the law, so you go after the next in line which something can be done about, file lockers. If they day ever comes where tubes are targeted I'm sure it would be a conflict of interest at that point to accept money from them. But even then, why not take Manwin's money to get rid of all the other tubes? I'd rather deal with 1 Manwin than 100+ other companies.

This isn't rocket science. It's about doing what you can do with what you have.

MrDeiz 01-11-2013 11:18 AM

that list of 'killed' filelockers should should be checked a few times a month, especially the major ones.
those suckers always come up with the idea

AdultKing 01-11-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19420438)
that list of 'killed' filelockers should should be checked a few times a month, especially the major ones.
those suckers always come up with the idea

We constantly check them. This has always been an ongoing process.

kyro 01-11-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19420276)

We'll take contributions from anyone, they don't influence what we will do or not do.

I know that you're trolling, hiding like a gutless wonder behind a fake nick because you're not man enough to put your name to what you ask, however I've answered to clarify for anyone else who might read this and be misled by your crap.

so you will take money from anyone. that is the same rationalization that the traffic brokers use when they deal with warez sites or the dating and cam companies use when they buy ads on warez sites. no one has principles when it comes to who they are doing business with. :2 cents:

adultmobile 01-11-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kyro (Post 19420607)
so you will take money from anyone. that is the same rationalization that the traffic brokers use when they deal with warez sites or the dating and cam companies use when they buy ads on warez sites. no one has principles when it comes to who they are doing business with. :2 cents:

Do you know when you buy cell phone there was some chinese slavery involved; you buy a t-shirt there's balgladesh slavery involved; you eat meat there was cruelty on animals. Just saying, I'm one who buy traffic from tubes.

DWB 01-11-2013 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kyro (Post 19420607)
so you will take money from anyone. that is the same rationalization that the traffic brokers use when they deal with warez sites or the dating and cam companies use when they buy ads on warez sites. no one has principles when it comes to who they are doing business with. :2 cents:

Taking a donation from someone is not "doing business" with them. It is not a payment for services rendered.

If you donate to The Red Cross you are not doing business with The Red Cross nor are either of you bound by either others principles or ethics. It is a donation. Nothing more, nothing less. There is a clear difference between a business transaction and a donation.

AdultKing 01-11-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kyro (Post 19420607)
so you will take money from anyone. that is the same rationalization that the traffic brokers use when they deal with warez sites or the dating and cam companies use when they buy ads on warez sites. no one has principles when it comes to who they are doing business with. :2 cents:

We don't "do business" with people who contribute to our efforts, we take their money and use it to run a campaign against piracy, to pay for our resources, legal support, office space, administrative support, printing, paper, servers, programming, postage etc.

You on the other hand seem overly concerned with denigrating our efforts, all from a fake nick, not man enough to put your name or identity to your diatribe.

kyro 01-11-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19420973)
Taking a donation from someone is not "doing business" with them. It is not a payment for services rendered.

If you donate to The Red Cross you are not doing business with The Red Cross nor are either of you bound by either others principles or ethics. It is a donation. Nothing more, nothing less. There is a clear difference between a business transaction and a donation.

lol you call it donation, i call it payoff, someone else could call it doing business. I don't care though what you call it.

Lets do a recount of history. adultking bashes on manwin hard, adultking goes after piracy, manwin's sites have stolen content, manwin pays adultking money, adultking stops bashing on manwin. those are the facts bro and if you think the money didn't cause adultking to back off of manwin then you got your head in your ass. i know you guys love adultking for what he is doing but at least be honest about it and don't sugar coat it. :2 cents:

kyro 01-11-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19420983)
We don't "do business" with people who contribute to our efforts, we take their money and use it to run a campaign against piracy, to pay for our resources, legal support, office space, administrative support, printing, paper, servers, programming, postage etc.

You on the other hand seem overly concerned with denigrating our efforts, all from a fake nick, not man enough to put your name or identity to your diatribe.

doesn't matter what you call it. you are funded by the bad guys. it looks like a payoff.

you were posting like this not too long ago:

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18177321)
Manwin can go fuck themselves, I really am willing to invest cash in employing their own business model against them.

then you start crusade against piracy, manwin pays your money and you don't go after him. draw your own conclusions.


get off your horse about fake nick, tired of hearing you say everyone who questions you is a fake nick. yes i went back in time to 2004 to make this nick name just to fuck with you. i don't think so. what am i saying that is that big of a deal that someone would have to hide behind a fake nick. you really need to check yourself.

AdultKing 01-11-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kyro (Post 19420991)
lol you call it donation, i call it payoff, someone else could call it doing business. I don't care though what you call it.

Lets do a recount of history. adultking bashes on manwin hard, adultking goes after piracy, manwin's sites have stolen content, manwin pays adultking money, adultking stops bashing on manwin. those are the facts bro and if you think the money didn't cause adultking to back off of manwin then you got your head in your ass. i know you guys love adultking for what he is doing but at least be honest about it and don't sugar coat it. :2 cents:

That's a perverted timeline of the history of this, you should read the interviews I have given to various media organisations as I have addressed this.

What really happened is that in 2011 I tried to start a non profit organisation to fight piracy starting with tubes - however virtually nobody was interested. This got me thinking and over the course of time between then and the middle of last year I came to the realisation that the really problematic piracy stemmed from file lockers. Thus I started a campaign to fight file lockers.

We have asked again and again for people to send us copies of their infringement notices to [email protected] - very few of them relate to tubes.

You may not like the facts but it's true that there is a greater volume of piracy on file lockers, forums, image hosting sites and torrents than there is on tubes.

We will take money from anyone, we will use it to fight piracy without fear nor favour.

You on the other hand can continue your pointless campaign of weasel words hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard.

kyro 01-11-2013 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19420907)
Do you know when you buy cell phone there was some chinese slavery involved; you buy a t-shirt there's balgladesh slavery involved; you eat meat there was cruelty on animals. Just saying, I'm one who buy traffic from tubes.

what ever you need to justify it bro. according to that then you can't breathe without doing business with the bad guys. i do think differently. i think difference between a direct payment from the enemy and some child making the shirt i buy. but i am not buying traffic from warez sites so i don't need to make excuses to make my self feel better.

why stop at buying traffic from tube sites, why not go make tube sites and let people upload stolen content, it's legal. if it's legal and everything else we do in life is corrupted then why draw a line with buying traffic, it's ok everyone go start their own tube site and hide behind dmca laws.

AdultKing 01-11-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kyro (Post 19421008)
what ever you need to justify it bro. according to that then you can't breathe without doing business with the bad guys. i do think differently.

What have you ever done ? Anything significant ? Or is posting on a forum enough of an effort for you ?

kyro 01-11-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19421000)
That's a perverted timeline of the history of this, you should read the interviews I have given to various media organisations as I have addressed this.

What really happened is that in 2011 I tried to start a non profit organisation to fight piracy starting with tubes - however virtually nobody was interested. This got me thinking and over the course of time between then and the middle of last year I came to the realisation that the really problematic piracy stemmed from file lockers. Thus I started a campaign to fight file lockers.

We have asked again and again for people to send us copies of their infringement notices to [email protected] - very few of them relate to tubes.

You may not like the facts but it's true that there is a greater volume of piracy on file lockers, forums, image hosting sites and torrents than there is on tubes.

We will take money from anyone, we will use it to fight piracy without fear nor favour.

You on the other hand can continue your pointless campaign of weasel words hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard.

No what really happened is that you bashed manwin several times over the last year and hated that company said they were a big problem. then you accept money from manwin and never posted bad about him but continue to fight piracy. that is what really happened, maybe you have it twisted in your mind. but when you took manwin's money you lost zero credibility with a lot of people. and then he took money away from you, but damage is done. :2 cents:

kyro 01-11-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19421016)
What have you ever done ? Anything significant ? Or is posting on a forum enough of an effort for you ?

i would never take money from the enemy if you must know, i would have told manwin to shove it up their ass. i would have told everyone how manwin offered me money and i told nathan to stick it. that would have shown i was not going to be paid off and would have got more money in donations from other people who don't like manwin because they would have appreciated my stance, if you must know about me.

AdultKing 01-11-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kyro (Post 19421021)
i would never take money from the enemy if you must know, i would have told manwin to shove it up their ass. i would have told everyone how manwin offered me money and i told nathan to stick it. that would have shown i was not going to be paid off and would have got more money in donations from other people who don't like manwin because they would have appreciated my stance, if you must know about me.

So you've done nothing, because I don't see you spearheading any anti piracy campaigns.

We are not influenced by any donation we receive, I have said that many times.

If we did not accept any money from Manwin then this effort would have ended a long time ago. Even as recently as last week we almost ran out of funds.

The day we do run out of funds is the day this effort ends.

The issue is a non issue as Manwin are are not funding us now, it's been months since we received anything from them.

kyro 01-11-2013 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19421027)
So you've done nothing, because I don't see you spearheading any anti piracy campaigns.

We are not influenced by any donation we receive, I have said that many times.

If we did not accept any money from Manwin then this effort would have ended a long time ago. Even as recently as last week we almost ran out of funds.

The day we do run out of funds is the day this effort ends.

The issue is a non issue as Manwin are are not funding us now, it's been months since we received anything from them.

so i have done nothing because i am not posting about it on here? sorry you don't know everything that goes on and what everyone is doing.

the only reason they are not funding you now is because they chose to stop sending you money. they played you like a fool.

you laid down with dogs, you get fleas. you will run out of money because a lot of people wont donate to you because you took money from manwin. :2 cents:

Robbie 01-11-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kyro (Post 19421047)
so i have done nothing because i am not posting about it on here? sorry you don't know everything that goes on and what everyone is doing.

I've been up on anti-piracy for the last 4 years...back when everyone was saying "oh don't worry about it, it's free publicity".

I'm unaware of anybody doing anything remotely as successful against piracy as Adult King.

But you're insinuating that you're doing stuff...so what have you done? :)

johnnyloadproductions 01-11-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kyro (Post 19421021)
i would never take money from the enemy if you must know, i would have told manwin to shove it up their ass. i would have told everyone how manwin offered me money and i told nathan to stick it. that would have shown i was not going to be paid off and would have got more money in donations from other people who don't like manwin because they would have appreciated my stance, if you must know about me.

Let's ask this questions. Which of the two evils would you prefer?

1. AK never did any campaigning at all and surely most of the file lockers would have PayPal at the moment and several more that are now dead.

2. AK is doing what he is right now and steadily windle all file lockers down until it's too dangerous to run one with flat out thievery.

A sensible person would shut up after that... But I'm guessing that won't happen here. :error

dgraves 01-11-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kyro (Post 19420254)
are you low on funds because manwin stopped paying you? i still do not understand why you took his money. you went after time hardcore then he paid you and you were bro bro and now he stops paying you, does that mean he is fair game again ?

Manwin should be the biggest contributor for this campaign. They claim to be proactive "now" and doing their best to minimize piracy so it's time to "put your money where your mouth is".

DTK 01-11-2013 10:26 PM

I just (don't) love these anons who randomly pop into this thread and try to shit on AK's efforts.

Hey kyro, what's your real gfy nick?

EpicPanda 01-12-2013 01:15 AM

bump + donation

Three.Thousand 01-12-2013 02:54 AM

one question,.... why do you guys keep feeding the trolls?!?!?
Dont you know you will annoy them even more if you ignore them


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