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AdultKing 11-22-2012 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by freakfiles (Post 19327087)
Thank you AK, you have just proved my point (and that of many sane people around here that question your motives). So what do we get here, you're claiming that for money, you will start killing a site, any site.

Incorrect.

We need to be representative of rights holders to move forward with our efforts. I can understand how difficult it is for someone with your prejudiced reasoning to understand as much however this is where things stand.

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When asked about your ideological enemies such as Crocko and Hotfile (who should be easy enough for you to "kill") you come up with the biggest pile of horse shit world has ever seen like "... current target of operations and we don't discuss operational matters." I mean WTF does that mean? Any question gets ignored, any person doubting you gets labeled a "pirate".
For the entire life of this project we have declined to provide any information about ongoing activities until we had either a resolution or a strategic need to release information.

For months we were taunted by people just like you about Netload, we were accused of giving them a free pass - well you can just look back and see how that turned out.

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Simple logic that tubes are the real problem for this industry (Tube8 at one time was almost number 1 in Alexa) is rejected by you.
Yawn, again you are one of these people who confused free porn with piracy. Your unsophisticated view of the problem is self apparent.

TUBE8.COM

Total Requests: 269
Median Requests per Week: 3

URLs Requested to be Removed: 2,744
% Indexed URLs < 0.1%
Median URLs per Week: 29

Most Recent Request: Nov 22, 2012
First Available Request: Sep 16, 2011

NETLOAD.IN

Total Requests: 3,255
Median Requests per Week: 10

URLs Requested to be Removed: 137,461
% Indexed URLs < 1%
Median URLs per Week: 2,615

Most Recent Request: Nov 22, 2012
First Available Request: Aug 27, 2011

The above figures when adjusted for adult content are

TUBE8.COM

URLs Requested to be Removed: 2,744

NETLOAD.IN

URLs Requested to be Removed: 72,701


The figures above prove that NETLOAD.IN (one file locker) is worse for adult piracy than TUBE8.COM

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You are nothing but a paid whore. Who's your John be it Manwin or other tube owners doesn't really matter. You haven't done shit (600 hosts that don't even pop up in alexa don't count), you can't do shit apart from shooting emails to payment providers and if by any chance (highly unlikely) you are who you say you are you will fail and stop doing this as this venue is pointless and it is not a solution.
Your desperation shines through in your statement above. You're not only wrong, you're also pedalling lies.

Lets look at some of the hosts who have lost payment processing:

ALEXA POSITIONS:

DepositFiles.com: 183
Letitbit.net: 430
Turbobit.net: 425
RapidGator.net 306
MediaFire.com: 107

the list goes on.

Almost all of the above sites have lost traffic since they lost various payment processors.

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Your representation is bullshit as well, all you can really do with that is yet again shoot some emails all over the place on their behalf and that's it.
That's what you'd like to believe, I won't try to change your view.


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In half a year, I'll come back to this thread and all the major players will be out there and I would be curious to see what you'll have to say then.
Would you like to place a monetary bet on that ?

adultmobile 11-22-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19327116)
Would you like to place a monetary bet on that ?

Be careful as betting and gambling it shoud be licensed in the player country or you lose the biller :)

Triple-A 11-22-2012 10:27 AM

Was there somebody here from Ultramegabit previously?

They are ignoring my latest DMCAs - I had copied [email protected] too, should I re send with the fact they have ignored the request? It's been 5-6 days, long enough in my book!

Love to hear from Ultramegabit owner that I'm sure was on here as to why my legit and correct DMCAs are being ignored! Anything to help build up a case against them if they persist!

AdultKing 11-22-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple-A (Post 19327359)
Was there somebody here from Ultramegabit previously?

They are ignoring my latest DMCAs - I had copied [email protected] too, should I re send with the fact they have ignored the request? It's been 5-6 days, long enough in my book!

Love to hear from Ultramegabit owner that I'm sure was on here as to why my legit and correct DMCAs are being ignored! Anything to help build up a case against them if they persist!

No need to resend, the original notices are enough.

SKUP 11-22-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple-A (Post 19327359)
Was there somebody here from Ultramegabit previously?

They are ignoring my latest DMCAs - I had copied [email protected] too, should I re send with the fact they have ignored the request? It's been 5-6 days, long enough in my book!

Love to hear from Ultramegabit owner that I'm sure was on here as to why my legit and correct DMCAs are being ignored! Anything to help build up a case against them if they persist!

Yeah, let's get mookie/rudy back in :winkwink:

freakfiles 11-22-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19327116)
Would you like to place a monetary bet on that ?

Sure.

I'll take the 5 hosts you listed here and add 5 more.

DepositFiles.com
Letitbit.net
Turbobit.net
RapidGator.net
MediaFire.com
Hotfile.com
Crocko.con
Uploading.com
Uploaded.net
Filepost.com

I bet 1,000$ on each to be online and working in half a year from now.

MrDeiz 11-22-2012 11:14 AM

what's the point of your bet?
you actually suck big time, because AK tries his best to help us make more money by removing content we sell from pirated sites. you better send that $1000 to him as a reward

but you are upload monkey, aren't u? you don't care about legit business model, but how can you pay your monkey's ass rent this month, don't u?

Dirty F 11-22-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by freakfiles (Post 19327408)
Sure.

I'll take the 5 hosts you listed here and add 5 more.

DepositFiles.com
Letitbit.net
Turbobit.net
RapidGator.net
MediaFire.com
Hotfile.com
Crocko.con
Uploading.com
Uploaded.net
Filepost.com

I bet 1,000$ on each to be online and working in half a year from now.

Ooooh exciting :)

AdultKing 11-22-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19327423)
but you are upload monkey, aren't u? you don't care about legit business model, but how can you pay your monkey's ass rent this month, don't u?

Whatever he/she/it is, they seem completely unable to grasp simple facts.

Completely ignoring the evidence posted here showing that file lockers are a serious piracy problem.

I'd like them to put their real name to their flawed arguments, however we all know they won't.

DWB 11-22-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by freakfiles (Post 19327087)
So what do we get here, you're claiming that for money, you will start killing a site, any site.

Since you prefer to spend your day, all day, every day, working for free, I have about 20,000 photos that need retouched and 200+ videos edited and rendered. Can you please do this for me, for free?

AdultKing 11-23-2012 08:30 PM

We expect that over the next few weeks that some of our work to disrupt some of the larger file lockers will start taking effect.

DWB 11-24-2012 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19329812)
We expect that over the next few weeks that some of our work to disrupt some of the larger file lockers will start taking effect.

:thumbsup

Kill on.

Nautilus 11-24-2012 08:52 AM

Dear right holders,

To further our anti-piracy efforts AK (Copycontrol) needs to be representative - having enough representation agreements on file will allow to quickly finish current Stopfilelockers campaign and to move on to mitigating other forms of the commercial piracy. Please do not sit on the sidelines waiting for others to do all the work - contact Copycontrol right now and get your representation agreement sent to you. It will not take much of your time to sign it and to send it back, but it will provide a very substantial contribution towards strengthening of our collective anti-piracy efforts.

It doesn't matter if you're big or small, each representation agreement is counted. If you cannot afford standard representation fees AK is more then willing to negotiate and to set them to the whatever amount is affordable to you.

Get represented!
http://copycontrol.org/get-represented/

Barefootsies 11-24-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by freakfiles (Post 19327408)
Sure.

I'll take the 5 hosts you listed here and add 5 more.

DepositFiles.com
Letitbit.net
Turbobit.net
RapidGator.net
MediaFire.com
Hotfile.com
Crocko.con
Uploading.com
Uploaded.net
Filepost.com

I bet 1,000$ on each to be online and working in half a year from now.


Barefootsies 11-24-2012 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19323682)
Hey freakfiles...why don't YOU do something to stop piracy?


Redrob 11-24-2012 09:48 PM

Bump for AK.

Triple-A 11-25-2012 08:38 AM

I'm sure you've been well aware of this site before, but just in case, they are filelocker facilitators or consolidators.

Still with 2000charge payment plan and another option...

mydownloader.net

AdultKing 11-25-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple-A (Post 19331567)
I'm sure you've been well aware of this site before, but just in case, they are filelocker facilitators or consolidators.

Still with 2000charge payment plan and another option...

mydownloader.net

Yes, we are all too well aware of mydownloader.net and sites of it's ilk.

BlackAndBlue 11-25-2012 02:42 PM

Bumping for the end of the week.

Nautilus 11-25-2012 02:48 PM

This week's terminations log:

Cramit.in (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Filerose.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Sharemediafiles.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Grupload.com (filehost) terminated by Moneybookers
Lafiles.com (filehost) terminated by Moneybookers
Filedownloads.org (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Fileupload.pro (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
File4safe.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Sindema.info (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Necroupload.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Catshare.org (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Beastshare.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Super-porn.org (reseller) terminated by Paypal
Ezzfile.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal

Nautilus 11-25-2012 02:49 PM

More dead hosts:

http://1hostclick.com
http://24upload.com
http://bananashare.org
http://edoc.com
http://filedino.com
http://filereactor.com
http://files-king.com
http://fooget.com
http://jbsharing.com
http://kickload.com
http://mojofile.com
http://multishare.org
http://mygigabyte.com
http://rapid-upload.org
http://scalibux.com
http://sharebee.com
http://sharemediafiles.com
http://uploadboost.com
http://usstream.tv

DWB 11-25-2012 02:58 PM

<pirate>

Yea, well... not a single site has shut down due to any of this. You have had zero impact and no one cares. And why don't you go after tubes? They have more videos. I demand you tell me how you are getting your information.

</pirate>

Nautilus 11-25-2012 03:07 PM

Dear rights holders,

To quickly finish the currently ongoing Stopfilelockers campaign and to move on to mitigating other forms of the commercial piracy AK (Copycontrol) needs to be representative - please contribute to the war on piracy by applying as soon as possible. It will not take much of your time to sign the representation agreement and to send it back, but it will make a real difference and provide real help - some of the payment options can only be taken down by having enough representation agreements on file to impress various third parties that Copycontrol is dealing with such as VISA and Mastercard.

It doesn't matter if you're big or small, each representation agreement is counted. If you cannot afford standard representation fees AK is more than willing to negotiate them to the whatever amount is affordable to you. Please do not sit on the sidelines waiting for others to solve the piracy problem for you - stand up and help the fight.

Get represented!
http://copycontrol.org/get-represented/

MrDeiz 11-26-2012 09:35 AM

back to business again

Triple-A 11-26-2012 10:04 AM

*bump* for the start of the week's piracy fun...

vollenweider 11-26-2012 02:17 PM

bump for seizing some domains!!

RubyGoodnight 11-28-2012 04:11 AM

Back to page one...

notjoe 11-28-2012 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19327116)
Incorrect.
We need to be representative of rights holders to move forward with our efforts. I can understand how difficult it is for someone with your prejudiced reasoning to understand as much however this is where things stand.

Why? You've gotten this far without any rights holders signing any agreements with you.

vollenweider 11-28-2012 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by notjoe (Post 19336019)
Why? You've gotten this far without any rights holders signing any agreements with you.

Yes this part is the scary one, basically he wants to "catch" the snakes with other's hands? In any case, i won't sign anything since i am not sure about your methodologies. I just respect what you do and hope you reconsider your strategies.

AdultKing 11-28-2012 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by notjoe (Post 19336019)
Why? You've gotten this far without any rights holders signing any agreements with you.

There are various reasons, most of them legal. The reason we have gotten this far has to do with brand risk, now we need to exercise other factors to wipe out what's left of the file locker industry and then move on to other forms of piracy.

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Originally Posted by vollenweider (Post 19336027)
Yes this part is the scary one, basically he wants to "catch" the snakes with other's hands? In any case, i won't sign anything since i am not sure about your methodologies. I just respect what you do and hope you reconsider your strategies.

I think it's patently clear that you do not know what you are talking about. However, playing your game, what would you do to stop piracy ? We're always open to listening to novel new ideas.

Mutt 11-28-2012 06:45 AM

What's the story with uload.to? they are completely ignoring DMCA takedown notifications.

i see they are growing fast :Oh crap

AdultKing 11-28-2012 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19336153)
What's the story with uload.to? they are completely ignoring DMCA takedown notifications.

i see they are growing fast :Oh crap

You're right, on our measurements they are only complying with 14% of takedown requests and those take too long.

Are we getting copies of those DMCA's you're sending ?

Dirty F 11-28-2012 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19336129)
to wipe out what's left of the file locker industry

What you mean what's left?
99% is left.
The only thing you did was stop a few minor lockers nobody has heard of before.
The big ones do more traffic in a day than those small ones in a year.
Your work has had no impact whatsoever. There is not one less pirate. I doubt there's even one less locker as they just keep building them. Your lists of paypal removals from obscure lockers looks nice every time you post it but in reality nothing has changed. Absolutely nothing.
I'm not saying this to attack you or anything. Just wondering wth you are talking about when you say "what's left".
Everything is left. You removed maybe 1%. Actually i doubt it's that much.

Dirty F 11-28-2012 07:35 AM

But we all know you won't touch the big lockers. You know, the ones who actually have huge impact.

Mutt 11-28-2012 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19336154)
You're right, on our measurements they are only complying with 14% of takedown requests and those take too long.

Are we getting copies of those DMCA's you're sending ?

what's the email address to cc: DMCA emails to?

nikki99 11-28-2012 07:52 AM

AK is my hero

AdultKing 11-28-2012 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19336230)
what's the email address to cc: DMCA emails to?

[email protected]

johnnyloadproductions 11-28-2012 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19336216)
But we all know you won't touch the big lockers. You know, the ones who actually have huge impact.

I find this statement ironic, considering that you were complaining about Javbucks not converting for you. All in time.
AK is rolling out a plan that will slowly takedown even the big boys.

AlDeNiro 11-28-2012 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19323420)
You are still confusing the free porn argument with the piracy argument.

But you still confuse two different arguments. Yes tubes have lots of free porn, however how much of that is infringing ?

You are writing again and again "free porn", meaning it is not a piracy... so what is it? Be honest, tube sites is a problem too.

And you forgot about their monetization... All tube sites have premium areas with HD or some other extra features. They are using popular adult payment gateways btw.
So, it was a bad news you are working with them, thinking they are legal and will not fight against after file sharing sites.

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19327116)
Yawn, again you are one of these people who confused free porn with piracy. Your unsophisticated view of the problem is self apparent.

Don't protect thiefs. Free distribution doesn't mean "legal". Regarding dmca requests on google - they have another distribution model - no need to post links to video anywhere on the net, anyone can go on tube site and watch what he wants. That is why you can't find any link with your video with google or it's much harder. It's like YouTube, but with stolen content and without detection tools for copyright owners, of course md5 check is not working here, 'cause video can be converted from HD to lower quality with huge amount of settings.

Dirty F 11-28-2012 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19336264)
I find this statement ironic, considering that you were complaining about Javbucks not converting for you. All in time.
AK is rolling out a plan that will slowly takedown even the big boys.

Point out the ironic part please.


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