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mikke 08-13-2012 02:38 PM

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thank u sir for ur attention to read this useless post :(

Captain Kawaii 08-13-2012 02:45 PM

Where do we report? I went to the stopfilelockers site and don't see anything direct. Just use the contact form? I found what appears to be, a biggie. I tried the form. Not working in FF or IE.

The site, http://www.sammyboyforum.com/index.php

DWB 08-13-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19117558)
That's what I suspect. They have an vested interest in seeing it fail. So they waste time trying to point out how piracy can't be stopped, won't be stopped and ridiculing any attempts to slow it down or stop it's growth.

The people trying to stop it are not doing anything to them, not asking them to help or contribute and unless they get benefit from piracy curbing or reducing it will have no effect on their business.

I'll be the first to admit it will never be "stopped." It has always been here, it always will be. So that I want to be clear. No one will stop piracy. However, it can be contained to a manageable point.

Alex911 08-13-2012 02:49 PM

I think the reason Paypal is reluctant to take actions against FileLockers as a whole is that it would highly profit to their competitors (Webmoney, etc) in terms of market share...

Paul Markham 08-13-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19118608)
I'll be the first to admit it will never be "stopped." It has always been here, it always will be. So that I want to be clear. No one will stop piracy. However, it can be contained to a manageable point.

Agreed..

AdultKing 08-13-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex911 (Post 19118612)
I think the reason Paypal is reluctant to take actions against FileLockers as a whole is that it would highly profit to their competitors (Webmoney, etc) in terms of market share...

Untrue. Paypal's brand is more valuable to them than relationships that bring the brand into disrepute. They are extremely brand risk sensitive and have had no problem terminating relationships based on that sensitivity.

ShoeBox 08-14-2012 12:18 AM

tuesday bump

adultmobile 08-14-2012 04:54 AM

Definitely at the moment it is more popular the topic of Google will delist DMCA infringing sites. Even if that will just move traffic from google to other search engines, not reduce piracy.

Nautilus 08-14-2012 05:38 AM

Filestay.com lost their Paypal account (again) thanks to Met-Art anti-piracy team.

Nautilus 08-14-2012 05:55 AM

And yet another quality kill by Met AP - livefile.org can no longer accept payments through Paypal.

https://livefile.org/getpremium/mb

19teenporn 08-14-2012 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19119189)
Untrue. Paypal's brand is more valuable to them than relationships that bring the brand into disrepute. They are extremely brand risk sensitive and have had no problem terminating relationships based on that sensitivity.

hope that's the total true

Paul Markham 08-14-2012 07:16 AM

More Indians won't be eating this week. LOL

Axeman 08-14-2012 08:19 AM

Met-Art AP is on fire. Great start to the week.

inthecrack 08-14-2012 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19119189)
Untrue. Paypal's brand is more valuable to them than relationships that bring the brand into disrepute. They are extremely brand risk sensitive and have had no problem terminating relationships based on that sensitivity.

That being the case, what is it going to take for Paypal to just eliminate processing for all file lockers. They seem to have had no qualms about putting a blanket ban on all legit adult sites so why not on the far worse cousin? If they deny knowledge of the file locker's primary purpose for existence then maybe they really do secretly want to keep some of that dirty money.

inthecrack 08-14-2012 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19117369)
Makes me wonder what the ratio of content pushers to producers really is?

I suspect 100 to 1 or worse. As an adult site with several hundred affiliates I have to assume that the average membership site might have as many as 200 active affiliates. Then of all the membership sites how many of those actually produce all their own content as opposed to buying their content? Maybe the pushers to producers ratio is more like 1000 to 1.

[Labret] 08-14-2012 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19119491)
And yet another quality kill by Met AP - livefile.org can no longer accept payments through Paypal.

https://livefile.org/getpremium/mb

Very nice.

Paul Markham 08-14-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19117369)
Makes me wonder what the ratio of content pushers to producers really is?

Would make a great poll.

Producers to resell.

Producers for self.

Traffic pushers.

Others.

AdultKing 08-14-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthecrack (Post 19119690)
That being the case, what is it going to take for Paypal to just eliminate processing for all file lockers. They seem to have had no qualms about putting a blanket ban on all legit adult sites so why not on the far worse cousin? If they deny knowledge of the file locker's primary purpose for existence then maybe they really do secretly want to keep some of that dirty money.

Paypal have consistently said they aren't going to disallow file lockers with their AUP. I disagree with them, however given the business model of sites like DropBox I can see their point of view.

The key here is to identify file lockers that deliberately take advantage of the DMCA takedown revolving door.

If a file locker is serious about cleaning up it's act then it can simply prohibit anyone from posting to warez and piracy sites, if it did that and deleted files placed on such sites then it would become very difficult for the pirates.

We'll act on any site which is seen to be supported by or promoting the use of their service by pirates.

johnnyloadproductions 08-14-2012 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19120179)
Would make a great poll.

Producers to resell.

Producers for self.

Traffic pushers.

Others.

Start it... just cross your fingers DamianJ doesn't hijack the damn thread... :1orglaugh

johnnyloadproductions 08-14-2012 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19120887)
Paypal have consistently said they aren't going to disallow file lockers with their AUP. I disagree with them, however given the business model of sites like DropBox I can see their point of view.

The key here is to identify file lockers that deliberately take advantage of the DMCA takedown revolving door.

If a file locker is serious about cleaning up it's act then it can simply prohibit anyone from posting to warez and piracy sites, if it did that and deleted files placed on such sites then it would become very difficult for the pirates.

We'll act on any site which is seen to be supported by or promoting the use of their service by pirates.

Well said.

Yes, these file lockers rely heavily on the revolving DMCA loophole.
In the heyday about a 1-2 years ago apparently some of the filelockers would simply delete pointers to the files and an uploader just had to reset them.

Nautilus 08-14-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19120943)
In the heyday about a 1-2 years ago apparently some of the filelockers would simply delete pointers to the files and an uploader just had to reset them.

Many of them are still doing exactly that.

AdultKing 08-14-2012 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19120943)
Yes, these file lockers rely heavily on the revolving DMCA loophole.
In the heyday about a 1-2 years ago apparently some of the filelockers would simply delete pointers to the files and an uploader just had to reset them.

This is precisely what happens with many sites now. It's not a thing of the past.

johnnyloadproductions 08-14-2012 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19120947)
Many of them are still doing exactly that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19120948)
This is precisely what happens with many sites now. It's not a thing of the past.

Oh..... well I apologize for not keeping tabs on this :1orglaugh

It makes business sense to them, less bandwidth to burn and tons of time saved on the uploader end.

Triple-A 08-15-2012 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19120947)
Many of them are still doing exactly that.

Precisely, it's STILL on their servers despite my DMCAs requesting they remove or delete content they do not own or to remove repeat infringers for peristant violations as per their writen ToS etc...

Some do, and the pirates move on or use them less.
I am finding that Rapidgator is now the biggest offender in the above respect but will remove content reasonably quickly when you badger them so the chances of some making their 1000 hits is rare if you are on top of it. Any filelocker helping pirates to re upload immediately despite their Md5 hash (block file) promises they make should be targeted.


I'm sure a lawyer on a no win no fee basis could have a field day withthese if some of us pooled together
I know in our niches a few of us spanking producers try to help each other out and have considered this as a real possibility. Our niche is that concentrated that those that site rip our content really do it harm.

xXXtesy10 08-15-2012 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple-A (Post 19121031)
Precisely, it's STILL on their servers despite my DMCAs requesting they remove or delete content they do not own or to remove repeat infringers for peristant violations as per their writen ToS etc...

Some do, and the pirates move on or use them less.
I am finding that Rapidgator is now the biggest offender in the above respect but will remove content reasonably quickly when you badger them so the chances of some making their 1000 hits is rare if you are on top of it. Any filelocker helping pirates to re upload immediately despite their Md5 hash (block file) promises they make should be targeted.


I'm sure a lawyer on a no win no fee basis could have a field day withthese if some of us pooled together
I know in our niches a few of us spanking producers try to help each other out and have considered this as a real possibility. Our niche is that concentrated that those that site rip our content really do it harm.

Pool together which is a term used for 10 years now. Never gonna happen bro. Adapt or die.

Paul Markham 08-15-2012 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19120941)
Start it... just cross your fingers DamianJ doesn't hijack the damn thread... :1orglaugh

It will get hijacked by DJ and other idiots.

DMCA is like using a spoon to dig a tunnel though the Rockies. It's proven to be completely useless. The easiest way to curb a lot of piracy is to amend it. Seems the Internet needs more regulations, not less.

LB-69 08-15-2012 04:43 AM

Found that gem on download page of stolen movie, so apparently now is completely legal and safe to steal:

http://lb-69.com/tempix/down.jpg

Paul Markham 08-15-2012 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LB-69 (Post 19121218)
Found that gem on download page of stolen movie, so apparently now is completely legal and safe to steal:

http://lb-69.com/tempix/down.jpg

So not DMCA compliant. They're checking the uploads.

Stupid is as stupid does.

The Porn Nerd 08-15-2012 07:44 AM

Just checking in to see how the good work is progressing. AWESOME ADULT KING!

19teenporn 08-15-2012 09:09 AM

Bump for this great cause

SplatterMaster 08-15-2012 09:53 PM

Bump for the cause

Redrob 08-16-2012 04:14 AM

Another bump. Keep up the good work.

JOP 08-16-2012 04:17 AM

Filesmonster has a revenueshare programm for uploading content. I actually thought Adultking was running it or is affiliated with it.

AdultKing 08-16-2012 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JOP (Post 19128066)
Filesmonster has a revenueshare programm for uploading content. I actually thought Adultking was running it or is affiliated with it.

What made you think that ? You are wrong and obviously trolling.

I am involved with no file locker services, so take your crap elsewhere.

JOP 08-16-2012 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19128084)
What made you think that ? You are wrong and obviously trolling.

I am involved with no file locker services, so take your crap elsewhere.

Man relax. I just thought that because your using the same font and almost the same logo for CopyControl as they do on content cooperation. If there wasnīt that illegal content on there lately it would have been a good idea, donīt you think? It looked promissing I thought.

AdultKing 08-16-2012 05:15 AM

We believe that the following file sharing, video sharing, video streaming, piracy, link shortening sites, resellers and enabling services have been had their Paypal accounts terminated between 2nd August 2012 and 16th August 2012.

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gigapeta.com
digitadiko.gr
premium.mmowned.pl
securelocker.biz
premiumnoktasi.com
premiumcarsi.com
agenpremium.com
premium-account.org
jualpremium.com
vdown.cn
premium-keys.de
premiumpazari.com
24instant.com
skleprs.pl
rapidshop.eu
oyunbayisi.com
contapremium.com
aigoostore.com
keysonic.ru
rapidkonta.pl
keyandplay.pl
businessthai2012.tarad.com
premiuminrupees.com
resellpremium.com
microdeluxe.com
premiumdukkan.com
premiumbayisi.com
sbjg.com
turbobitindonesia.blogspot.com
downloadnolimit.com
payforpremium.com
shareandplay.com
rapidpars.com
premiumissuer.com
cuentaspremium.mx
resetpremium.pl
way2premium.com
vioomax.com
resselerkont.pl
rapidearth.com
premium-online24.pl
takrapid.com
premiumsale.pl
vip-keys.com
premiumaccounts-seller.blogspot.com
turbobit.com.es
scalibux.com
am4share.com
allmyvideos.net
4savefile.com
24upload.net
1hostclick.com
filestay.com
bigshareshop.com
mydownloader.net
imageporter.com
jafiles.net
kickload.com
midupload.com
mojofile.com
muchshare.net
nosupload.com
queenshare.com
relink.us
sharefiles.me
sharebees.com
sharecash.org
sharpfile.com
sms4file.com
tgf-services.com
unibytes.com
uploadboost.com
zpag.es
ilix.in
i-filez.com
henchfile.com
grupload.com
fooget.com
filevelocity.com
filetechnology.com
filesin.com
filereactor.com
filemac.com
filekom.com
fibreupload.com
ddlstorage.com
eyesfile.com
edoc.com
easybytez.com
billionuploads.com
fileserving.com
files-king.com
filedino.com
fastshare.cz
aa.vg
247upload.com
bonmuzon.com
filedropper.com
melodycenta.com
ligamusic.com
justmusicdoor.com
allofmp3tunes.com
isound.be
allmuzz.com
lavamus.com
jbsharing.com
4shared-china.com
4sync.com
4s.io
4shared.com
videoveeb.com
filekeen.com
filerio.com
uploadspace.pl
basicupload.com
movie2k.com
grab8.com
rapid8.com
sounddump.com
shareflare.net
luckyshare.net
filezpro.com
bananashare.org
modovideo.com
cloudtorrent.net
fileuplo.de
monsteruploads.eu
allbox4.com
ihostia.com
jumbofiles.org
premiumcarsi.com
premium-keys.de
eshtrakat.com
premiumreseller.us
cheapaccounts.net
We believe that all these sites have been terminated by Paypal in the last 2 weeks. We do not believe any of them may process through Paypal again, however Paypal always deals with these matters on a case by case basis.

NOTES Copy Control does not claim responsibility for these or any other Paypal terminations. Many organisations work to deal with infringing sites. Some of these sites may have been reported earlier then re-reported as they continued to process with Paypal. This information is current at the time of publication and is subject to change.

notjoe 08-16-2012 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19128121)
We believe that the following file sharing, video sharing, video streaming, piracy, link shortening sites, resellers and enabling services have been had their Paypal accounts terminated between 2nd August 2012 and 16th August 2012.



We believe that all these sites have been terminated by Paypal in the last 2 weeks. We do not believe any of them may process through Paypal again, however Paypal always deals with these matters on a case by case basis.

NOTES Copy Control does not claim responsibility for these or any other Paypal terminations. Many organisations work to deal with infringing sites. Some of these sites may have been reported earlier then re-reported as they continued to process with Paypal. This information is current at the time of publication and is subject to change.

LOL! Now you guys are going after link shortening sites? Boy, Am I glad I never got involved with you guys. I could fathom the thought of stooping so low as to go after a link shortening site. You guys must be pretty bored with nothing better to do...or desperate to add to the list.

seeandsee 08-16-2012 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by notjoe (Post 19128125)
LOL! Now you guys are going after link shortening sites? Boy, Am I glad I never got involved with you guys. I could fathom the thought of stooping so low as to go after a link shortening site. You guys must be pretty bored with nothing better to do...or desperate to add to the list.

what link shortening sites? not sure i can find it in the list, but i am interested...

notjoe 08-16-2012 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 19128133)
what link shortening sites? not sure i can find it in the list, but i am interested...

As per the statement made by AK: "We believe that the following file sharing, video sharing, video streaming, piracy, link shortening sites, resellers and enabling services have been had their Paypal accounts terminated between 2nd August 2012 and 16th August 2012."

AdultKing 08-16-2012 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notjoe (Post 19128125)
LOL! Now you guys are going after link shortening sites? Boy, Am I glad I never got involved with you guys. I could fathom the thought of stooping so low as to go after a link shortening site. You guys must be pretty bored with nothing better to do...or desperate to add to the list.

The sites that we targeted were sites that were largely supporting piracy sites such as piracy forums and blogs. It's all part of cutting off the money supply. If piracy or warez forums are earning income from the affiliate programs of links shortening sites then those link shortening sites become targets.

With each one in this list the primary flow of money seemed to be piracy related.


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