You're fucked asshole.

http://i.imgur.com/obJVs.jpg

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Did you guys see that flash go by...that was Moogie's Safe Harbor Protection flying out the door.

I have already stated several times that nobody who has made a contribution to the campaign gets a free pass or exemption as a result. So your answer is , nobody can afford me because I will not accept any payment from anyone wishing to subvert our aims.

Answer the question moogie, are you against copyright infringement ?

obviously manwin can afford you. :thumbsup

I said I would answer the question when you say publicly how much Manwin paid you.

Not really? As it states they were abusing the site, and running scripts against our service, which was lagging out MYSQL.

Nope, not even Manwin.

Now answer the question.

Are you against copyright infringement ?

I see that working before the judge, sorry your honour we prevented third party scrutiny of content theft on our site because it was lagging our MYSQL.

Answer the question moogie, are you against copyright infringement ?

It's a good thing you are not a judge, or do not have any 'legal' merit. Yes we banned a few DMCA agents who had automated scripts hammering our database, and abusing our system, and it is well within our legal rights to block attacks.
How much did manwin pay you to ignore them?

Fail you worthless fuck. You are clearly stating you are banning the IPs of known DMCA Agents OR abusers. Banning the IPs of known DMCA Agents violates the Safe Harbor Exemption of the DMCA law. You can not enact any mechanism that makes it harder for copyright holders or their authorized agents to enforce their rights under the DMCA.

:thumbsup - now I see where the amazing comes in ;)

It does not even matter, you seem to be the only one asking about it. :2 cents:

I know for a fact that several of your large competitors white list the IP's of DMCA agents.

We are not ignoring Manwin and we cannot be bought.

Answer the question you are so busy deflecting and avoiding.

Are you against copyright infringement moogie ?

well it does matter, since I'm answering all the questions he's requesting, it's common courtesy. I am quite surprised to see that senior citizens are learning to use computers. That's awesome!

we have blocked some IP's of DMCA agents using scripts which was in essence ddos'ing our site. And that is an attack, we are well within our rights to block web attacks.

More deflection.

Answer the question.

Moogie, are you and UltraMegaBit against copyright infringement ?

How much has manwin paid you?

That's between us and Manwin.

Answer the question. Are you against copyright infringement ?

Okay, so I have to figure that you are probably 18+; but the "senior citizen" jab means under 30. I'm guessing 23.

I'll take the same stance then.

wow you two still going at it lol...

I'll take the same stance you have then. We can both play the 'you' first game.

My views on copyright infringement are in no way relevant to Ultra Mega Corp.

krylon!!!!!!!

Ok so you're not able to state publicly that you're against copyright infringement.

That's interesting. Especially considering that 96.7% of all links indexed by Google to files on your servers come from Warez sites, Release sites, Piracy forums, Piracy blogs and so forth.

Well, he doesent want to say how much he was paid by the company which single handed killed the adult industry. Why should I have to answer his questions?

I mean it's great to run an anti-piracy operation funded by a pirate.

You have to realize, that links which are shared on the internet are likely to be indexed on google. Most people don't publicly post links on forums to stuff they're sharing with relatives or friends or co-workers.

You work for UltraMega Corp, a company set up by a two bit online shelf company service, fill out a form, click , pay, click again - company formed.

No specialist lawyer set your company up, you're not all that credible in your responses to questions either.

Back to the question at hand.

Are you against piracy ?

Will you make it a feature of your terms of service that linking to files from a piracy or warez website is just cause for files to be removed ?

Do people join Pay Per Download programs for the few files they share with relatives and co-workers ?

In any case you were asked to post examples of legitimate use of your site, you have failed to do so.

Let me give you the opportunity again.

Please post some examples of genuine rights holders using your service to distribute their content.

So, now you're playing the my corp is better than your corp? Wow. Very tactful. We didn't feel the need to pay 10x the amount to form our corporation, when the end result is the same.

How is a anti-piracy operation funded by the largest adult pirate company on the internet?

Well at the end of the day that is up to both you and AdultKing what you want to say on a forum, but it seems pretty childish to keep arguing with each other over who, what were and when but it sure has a good entertainment value

Who ever said that they do?
You can find many examples of genuine rights holders using our service to distribute their content and earn money from our pay per download model. I have given you one example of a forum which much traffic comes from. xda developers. I'm sorry I can't go in and browse around at everything everyone is uploading. I do value safe harbor.

I can't speak for fabian's motives in making a contribution. All I can say is that at no time has any favour been asked for and I have made it clear and consistent throughout that no favour would be given.

What I can say is that if you add up all of the money contributed by this industry I have matched that and then some out of my own pocket. In fact by the end of the year I will have put almost $100,000 of my own cash and in kind contributions to Copy Control and the IP Association.

I know. Completely understand. I just wanted to make it absolutely clear, that he is funded by the largest pirates on the internet, and is allowing their millions of infringements with YOUR content on their servers to go unchecked, because they have made generous donations to him and his company before he starts soliciting you webmasters for more money.

Some pretty strange Business morals. But I have to log now. Thanks for the fun times.

Completely untrue. I have already stated clearly and openly that NO CONTRIBUTOR is afforded any favour, exemption, preference, special treatment or anything else. We cannot be bought.

Moogie: Will you make it a feature of your terms of service that linking to files from a piracy or warez website is just cause for files to be removed ?

You have been bought. You haven't even raised an eyebrow to the 100,000's of infringements from this company. But yet, small organizations like mine, and others are more of a threat than this company. I mean hell, you even did a 2 page story on our site? Not even one small mention or tweet about manwin? You said you're battling commercial piracy? Seems like that is commercial piracy on a massive scale. But yet you take donations from them. So, it is very obvious, that you are showing favor. Any person with some business morals, would have laughed at his offer. Assuming that ending commercial piracy is your real agenda.

We are targeting infringing file lockers - all of them - no favours no preferences no exemption.

Krylon, you're going back to your old arguments. We're not targeting anything other than file lockers and the immediate eco system.

We're not targeting counterfeit goods importers, drop shippers, tubes, etc. We're targeting file lockers.

Not one single infringing file locker has been given a free pass.

It still does not change the fact that you have TAKEN MONEY from a known pirate organization to fund your ANTI-PIRACY operation.
and you speak of shady business practices.

While quietly some file lockers are being auctioned off on Flippa, feel sorry for the folks that thought they were buying a legitimate business and realize what they bought into

Will you put a notice on your main page or about us page, that you receive donations from the owners of youporn, pornhub, and every other large pirate tube site, to fund your campaign against file lockers?

You'll use any method of deflection to avoid the fact that you are an enabler of wide scale commercial copyright infringement. You pay people to upload infringing files. It's that simple.

The fact of the matter is, we would have ceased to exist a month ago without contributions, so I'll gladly accept funding from anyone, including you, but don't expect anything in return because you wont get anything in return.

please everybody move, the new thread is here

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1084270