Never met a person that got tired LOL :upsidedow

Bumping for the additional site take downs. ;)

Not anymore :pimp

Another Indian villager will go hungry. :thumbsup

you dumb ass, most of these uploaders are from middle east and Turkey

Another expert.

Incorrect, but thanks for playing.

I wonder if anyone can guess where most of the uploaders are ?

http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/gene...12/07/USA1.png

:)

Ukraine and Russia

pakistan,bangladesh and that area,if you check "webmaster" forums you ll see

It's the USA. by a huge margin.

Where I can take my prize? :)

Lumfile.com has been experiencing difficulties lately, we'll have more to say about that once a few issues are dealt with.

http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...filecrying.jpg

Based on our sales I was going to say:

USA
UK
EU
Canada
Australia

"Sharing Industry"? I'd like to share a red hot poker with his dimwitted ass.

Which is why some of the file lockers still attempt to get PayPal even after having it terminated several times. Many paying consumers in the US and PayPal is one of the most trusted among payment gateways out there (many will only use that).

Let's see how long that lasts, servers cost money to run.
Few things work online for any given amount of time without a sustainable
business model.

"Useless efforts"? The fact you are still mentioning him (AK) means he's
riding your mind because he's put a dent (bigtime) in this market.

So what's their actual belief as far as "sharing" goes?

Do they believe only stuff that others create should be free like music, videos, software, etc. or all information in electronic format including all their private information?

Is extabit.com not respecting DMCA notifications anymore? I've sent a proper dmca notification about a month ago for this file http://extabit.com/file/2csa4jc26cdx4 and it's still there...

Any joy with this yet?
Lucky share are not responding to any of my DMCA emails!

As far as we are concerned, they are deleting links, just push them a little and keep on sending the dmca s

they are responding, resend

Agreed on both. They aren?t as fast as I?d like to see, but do finally get around to it. If your content has not been deleted in 24hrs, resend. We usually forward the original request with a new one.

great to see one man army in action!

Who is hosting them or any other file sharing sites? Can't hosts enforce DMCA rules on them?

If we're talking about a legit hosting company, they can even terminate a site's services because of DMCA non compliance. But in Luckyshare's case things are more than complicated: 1. because they are passing through a CDN 2. because their hosting company is a really fishy one: ecatel

cc [email protected], [email protected]

avangate got back to me and sent them a mail and then I got a response saying my original mails were caught in their spam folders etc.

Files are gone.

Always send copies of infringement notices and DMCA notices to [email protected]

I cannot stress how important it is to do this.

What has been stated here is incorrect in both law and effect. It is not helpful to post incorrect information.

No hosting company outside of the United States jurisdictional boundary is obligated to comply with or disconnect sites on the basis of non-compliance with US law. The only circumstances in which an overarching responsibility occurs in a non US jurisdiction is in the observation of treaty obligations and these matters are the responsibility of foreign governments to enforce.

The facts are simply that a company not within a US jurisdiction and not covered in some way by US jurisdiction, as in the case of a US owned entity operating abroad, is not required to observe the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. The fact that some do observe it is simply convenient for the purposes of anti-piracy efforts however it is not guaranteed.

Each country has it's own copyright legislation, it varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction whether or not this legislation can be effectively enforced in the online realm. Ecatel are only required to follow the laws of countries in which they have an effective residence or place of business.

It is very important to be very precise about these matters and spreading incorrect information is unhelpful as it leads people to adopt a view which is not consistent with the facts.

I have made this point clearly in early media interviews that I have done and also in this thread.

On the matter of a site using a CDN, this is not a factor in determining liability with regard to copyright infringement. In law the liability resides with the publisher and any party republishing content. If a CDN consistently republishes content then, unless it is afforded carrier status in a particular jurisdiction - such as the carrier status protections afforded in Australian law - then the CDN is just as liable for republishing the content.

The only Dutch people i know in this city, bucharest, are exploiting cheap housing and nice girls for cam studios. No need to tell your wife, just tell her you`re here to help the poor people getting food and stuff.

There.

Please always DMCA their billing company, or if that is a rogue billing company (which Avangate probably is), send DMCAs to VISA and MC. And also always cc them to copycontrol, to be used as evidence to demand termination of the infringing site, or termination of a rogue billing company which is processing payments for such sites.

Do not send DMCAs to hosts, unless you're happy spending most of your time scouting forums and blogs for links and playing cat and mouse game with the upload monkeys. Do not settle on merely killing some links. Help to kill file lockers which are the reason why links to your stolen content appear at piracy/warez sites.

Good advice. :thumbsup

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Thank you to everyone who has supported this project, it wouldn't exist without you.

This is a great tip. Is there a list anywhere of email addresses for the top file sharing sites along with their processor's email addresses?

That is a good question indeed :pimp A ton of them were terminated this week, so we'd need to redraft our hit list competely. I'll post the fresh one somewhere in the beginning of the next week.

That's perfect. I'm sure most producers would be glad to contribute if that info was readily available. This is a better long-term approach than just sending the DMCA Notice to the thief and the host.

While I support your efforts and would agree it is a necessary endeavor I'm curious if you've thought about the long term outcome?

What will eventually happen is the typical internet evolution. The most dedicated criminals will just move to more protected hosting and payment systems who will not cooperate like bitcoin, etc.

I think eventually you will need to move into collecting intelligence on support for the various illegal activities that tend to actually get a reaction - such as the child porn support service providing and basically perform the investigative work for law enforcement so they 1, obtain intelligence they don't have the time or budget to pursue themselves and 2, can see the possibility of winning cases.

Unfortunately most of the prosecutions at that level will be Federal (in the case of the US) and even getting the Feds to pursue a case can be close to impossible without doing most of the foundation work for them. Then, the prosecutors only take cases they have a 95 percent or better chance of winning.

I think your service will be busy for a long time to come though, there are always new players coming into the warez / piracy for profit industry and they do tend to take a very short sighted view on things. This is why the same people will keep coming back even after you manage to kill their payment processing. It's no different than the low level spam for profit field (with a lot of cross over between the participants) but as with most Internet based theft the long term players will more and more often end up being members or organized crime rings from the former USSR, Africa and Asia.

It's sad that the general public will end up killing their own freedoms. As long as so many people feel it's not only OK to not pay for services but for a few to feel they should be able to make money by stealing the work of others outright the end game solution will be a system of controls on the Internet that guarantee accountability. It's really only a matter of time, the ecommerce potential in yearly $ has grown to the critical level and the number of people using it to steal has also grown past the level where it cannot continue.

Right now the fight is still primarily being carried by content and good producers. Once finance enters the ring you will start to see more effective efforts in prosecutions and the development of controls - be that personal accountability such as tracking technologies or better and better DRM.

In all honestly while I do feel your efforts are needed and a necessary part of the process the industry as a whole would probably be better off investing in DRM technology and doing so on a basis that will keep up w/ the crackers. The model of 12 month release dates cannot compete w/ an opposition that works for free and has no release calendar.

Of course we have.

I have heard this all before.

Nobody hosted anywhere is safe, the only reason pirates have found safe harbour until now is because nobody has actually worked to shut down the things we shut down in the way we shut them down.

Just this week we saw a major third party billing company drop their file sharing clients because we leveraged their need to transact with other payment systems and credit cards. The threat of losing their relationships was enough, after many months of pressure, communication and hard work on our part, caused them to rethink their activities and almost 20 file sharing sites were cut loose.

I predict a great many entities who were enabling piracy will be disrupted in their activities. We have many strategies for dealing with piracy, not all of them have been put into place yet.

Rubbish, in most countries every case is investigated, the decision to prosecute usually comes down to whether enough evidence was gathered during the investigation to be able to launch a prosecution.

More rubbish. We are co-operating with a number of investigations. Your assertion that prosecutors only take cases they are assured of winning is incorrect. Prosecutions are launched where there is enough evidence to support a conviction.

It doesn't matter where an operation is based or what technology it uses or who is behind it. If a piracy site needs to transact in the real world then they are vulnerable to our strategies, likewise if they need to be supported by a method of monetization then they are able to be disrupted.


Just like piracy, IP theft, copying, misappropriation, passing off and brand infringements are all realities of the online age. However just because these problems each present unique challenges does not make what we do a lost cause.

DRM doesn't work, if something can be displayed on a screen it can be copied.

What does work is taking the supply of money away from pirates, taking away their monetization options works, we have proven it works, so now we're scaling up the fight.

I hear all sorts of arguments about why what we're doing is a waste of time, well I am not in a habit of wasting time and what we do does work.

We have seen the shutdown (completely offline) of dozens and dozens of piracy sites. Somewhere in the vicinity of 600 sites have lost one or more forms of payment processing. As we keep the pressure up and get better at what we do we'll simply become quicker and more effective at what we do.

This fight has been going for 126 days, not very long, wait and see what the scoreboard looks like at the 6 and then 12 month marks.

There's no way of stopping theft, the best we can do is limit it. The problem with content theft is there's little to no punishment. Can you imagine how bad shop lifting would be if the only punishment was that the thief had to put the item back? That's pretty much how effective DMCA is. It's a ridiculous game and not only do the thieves steal our content, they also steal our time.

To limit content theft, many different controls have to be put in place including removing the profit for thieves, effective methods of DRM, ways to track the content to the person who uploaded it to a file sharing site, etc...

I wanted to stop offering downloadable content but it might be a little to late for that. Porn buyers are so use to joining sites that offer downloads that I think it would piss off a lot of members.

It's a complex problem that's going to require complex solutions.

I'd be careful about calling things "rubbish" when you have no clue who I am or for how long I've been involved in this field.

I said repeatedly what your service is doing is necessary and is part of fighting the war, but it's not the end all solution. Even in the best case you will eventually end up with a core group of offenders who will not be reachable by your current tactics.

I've been involved in Federal prosecutions of computer crimes and your assertion that getting prosecutions is 100% is complete bullshit. There are specific circumstances where the Feds will even pursue it, for small time, one-site offenders with no proof of repeated offending you will need to hand them a case on a silver platter to even get past the first FBI / ICE agent. Your best bet would be to provide evidence of tax fraud if you want to motivate anyone and that's based on over a decade of dealing with the situation.

Yes, there are hosts, payment systems, networks and entire parts of the planet where these tactics will not work. I look at this as prohibition era crime fighting, the end result will be to eliminate the small time competition and help make the strongest offenders even stronger.

If your only interest is in painting your service as the end all / be all of anti piracy and ignore advice from real experts then I have to question your motivation and level of knowledge, sorry. That goes for the golden bit of wisdom about DRM, also. People love to toss that little gem around who have no real experience in the full capabilities of secure content. That's not anyone's fault though, up until now none of the entertainment content producers have really implemented it at an effective level, mainly because of the hardware side requirements and being willing to accept the trade off to gain wider compatibility.

This is the real problem w/ fighting piracy I've found. Too many people looking at the short term.

No we have no clue who you are because until you show your credentials you are just another nameless, faceless critic.

There is no place on this planet where Visa and Mastercard act outside of the law and there is no magic jurisdiction where some form of pressure cannot be brought to bear in one form or another.

The types of sites we go after need a constant turnover of funds to keep operating. In any case where this is true then hitting their ability to monetize deals a huge blow to the viability of the site.

Hate to break this to you sport but we operate on the world stage, where we are based all but frivolous reports of crime are investigated. Referrals are often made between Australian law enforcement agencies and US & European law enforcement agencies.

Every case we have referred to law enforcement agencies has thus far resulted in the commencement of an investigation.

It's true there are jurisdictions where there are more challenges than in others, however we go back to the need of commercial piracy operations to monetize. If you take away the money from commercial piracy then it's not commercial piracy anymore.

With 128 days, a handful of volunteers and a relentless pursuit of offenders we have brought pressure to bear on around 600 sites and we haven't even started using many of the methods we have devised for hitting the hip pocket of commercial pirates.

We have real experts, we have legal teams with specialist capability in IP law, trade, commerce, foreign treaties and finance. We have advice of a couple law enforcement agencies and are building relationships with more.

We'll stick to taking advice from truly qualified persons, not a nameless person on a web forum.

Your condescending tone reminds me of some other people who have posted in this thread, they each had their own agenda that was served by trying to derail our work. The simple truth is if you can display content then it can be copied. There is no way around this fact - none. DRM is part of a complex solution, it's not the final solution though.

If you knew anything about us, it's clear that you don't, then you'll know that our strategy is far from short term, we are playing the long game and have inflicted immense damage already with very few resources and a handful of volunteers.

When we're truly established we'll pose an even greater threat to commercial piracy.

It's true that if it's displayed on a screen it can be copied but there are ways to make it more difficult for them. We all know that most thieves are lazy and go after the low hanging fruit.

AK is doing an amazing job and I support anyone dedicated to this effort. I also know that I have to do my part and can't wait around to be saved. Each producer has to take action to protect their own content. Effective laws will have to be passed and who knows when or if that will ever happen.