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Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-13-2012 07:47 PM

Gang Nams

Paul Markham 10-13-2012 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CT-Content (Post 19248770)
Apologies to Mr. Pheer!
My paternity test statement and question was based on a research post published by "The King aka pathfinder".
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19195894&postcount=8
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Thanks.

It's amazing how people can lie and insult family here and get away with it.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-14-2012 12:27 AM

Paul's a weirdo

Paul Markham 10-14-2012 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Monotony (Post 19250240)
Paul's a weirdo

I noticed you thought twice before posting the original text. :321GFY

theking 10-14-2012 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19250212)
Thanks.

It's amazing how people can lie and insult family here and get away with it.

There are not any lies or an insult to your family from me...in my post...as the info in the post came from your posts on this board. Maybe you should have considered not posting such information about your family...clueless.

Sorry that Markham brought this matter to your thread AK.

Nautilus 10-14-2012 04:48 AM

Warez-bb.org loads very slow ATM and seems to be in the process of switching hosts (again, for the Nth time). Interedasting...

RubyGoodnight 10-14-2012 06:02 AM

Well, not only has the UltraMegaBit 'official support' thread on WJunction get locked, now the informal discussion section thread has been locked up. Too many upload monkeys complaining they were getting 'cheated' as UMB is not making payments or tracking downloads correctly.

Nice going, Moogie...

lucas131 10-14-2012 06:04 AM

very great, bitshare and freakshare, man you are helping alot also mainstream, do you know? :) keep up the fucking great work! :thumbsup respect! :)

Nautilus 10-14-2012 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 19250472)
very great, bitshare and freakshare, man you are helping alot also mainstream, do you know? :)

I think that mainstream is actually benefiting much more than adult from what AK does.

notinmybackyard 10-14-2012 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19250494)
I think that mainstream is actually benefiting much more than adult from what AK does.

And as soon as mainstream with it's legal teams and deep pockets catches on....
The pirates are going to be praying for miracles.

Go get them adult king !!

Pseudonymous 10-14-2012 07:08 AM

If anybody can find an actual email address that would lead to the owner of http://pics-sharing.net, please let me know. (theyre only using a contact form)

Or if you can find out the owners name,etc

Any information would be greatly appreciated

Nautilus 10-14-2012 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19250521)
And as soon as mainstream with it's legal teams and deep pockets catches on....

Let's hope that this will happen sooner or later, but for now mainstream is still too darn slow and they just do not seem to get it, and still prefer using old non-effective methods such as sueing the hell out of ONE file locker for two years, while allowing the rest of the bunch to keep stealing as if nothing happened.

Probably (and hopefully) in the future we'll have some strong and capable mainstream allies, but as of right now in this fight we're on our own.

notinmybackyard 10-14-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19250591)
Let's hope that this will happen sooner or later, but for now mainstream is still too darn slow and they just do not seem to get it, and still prefer using old non-effective methods such as sueing the hell out of ONE file locker for two years, while allowing the rest of the bunch to keep stealing as if nothing happened.

Probably (and hopefully) in the future we'll have some strong and capable mainstream allies, but as of right now in this fight we're on our own.


I think those of us that are NOT on the front lines of this fight against piracy could do something to help.

Without revealing "how it's exactly done" we could start educating mainstream about what they should be doing. Everyone of us can take spend 15 minutes looking for an email address to a mainstream studio, producer, etc and then sending them off a nice letter to tell them about how Adult King has approached this issue.

It's about building synergy and getting the right people in the right circles talking.

Perhaps we could even post some of those email addresses here and everyone can mass email the mainstream boys.

notinmybackyard 10-14-2012 10:41 AM

I sent a lettre to Full Moon Entertainement explaning to go after file lockers like Adult King does and I sent them the link to stopfilelockers.com


This is the address I sent
info ( * at* ) fullmoonentertainmentllc ( * dot * ) com

Feel free to anyone that wants to email them as well to do so.

Nautilus 10-14-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19250773)
Without revealing "how it's exactly done" we could start educating mainstream about what they should be doing. Everyone of us can take spend 15 minutes looking for an email address to a mainstream studio, producer, etc and then sending them off a nice letter to tell them about how Adult King has approached this issue.

Excellent idea! :thumbsup

Nautilus 10-14-2012 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19250893)
I sent a lettre to Full Moon Entertainement explaning to go after file lockers like Adult King does and I sent them the link to stopfilelockers.com

Thanks, and I'd also vote for anti-piracy blogging in your spare time - we can definitely use more social media power to build pressure on piracy sites' partners, especially on payment processors. As practice has clearly shown they're getting very nervous when their shady activities and their connections with piracy and also processing payments for the illegal stuff which can be easily found at pretty much every file host are brought to light. When they see it they often backpedal and show more willingness to cooperate, but we can definitely use more of such articles because there's alot of them shady companies which love piracy money. More blogs would also help to create the impression of a broader movement, which in turn will scare them even more because of greater brand name and legal risks.

If you or other members of this board have a few hours a week to spare, please consider blogging as your contribution to the war on piracy. I'm talking about creating blogs similar to stopfilelockers, just covering different areas of piracy and exposing more companies who're involved in shady dealings with pirates. We'd then create a blogroll of such blogs and relevant articles which will provide AK with more options and more power to bring rogue companies into compliance.

Nautilus 10-14-2012 03:22 PM

New article at SFL:
http://stopfilelockers.com/nutters-and-legal-threats/

[Labret] 10-14-2012 06:55 PM

Hey WDF, is is hard to type and blow Rudy at the same time?

notinmybackyard 10-14-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19251323)
Thanks, and I'd also vote for anti-piracy blogging in your spare time - we can definitely use more social media power to build pressure on piracy sites' partners, especially on payment processors.

I'm not on facebook or twitter because they annoy me more than a politician's telemarketer. But I do talk amongst my colleges and I have discussed Adult King and stop file lockers in depth with a contact I have at Quebecor Media. All of it has been positive reception.

One of the things someone mentioned to me that they were doing was to go into pirate forums and just find ways to mock and ridicule the pirates. Never against the issue of piracy but for just how looser it is to do nothing but sit on the Internet all day doing nothing like a nerd. According to her it actually helped lower the problems she was having with one forum filled with her content.

I suppose applying a little psychology doesn't hurt and it might help releave stress.

Personally I think every works a little and the big thing is to just keep turning into the fight. Stop listening to all those people that say we're never going to stop them.

bean-aid 10-14-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19251689)
I'm not on facebook or twitter because they annoy me more than a politician's telemarketer. But I do talk amongst my colleges and I have discussed Adult King and stop file lockers in depth with a contact I have at Quebecor Media. All of it has been positive reception.

One of the things someone mentioned to me that they were doing was to go into pirate forums and just find ways to mock and ridicule the pirates. Never against the issue of piracy but for just how looser it is to do nothing but sit on the Internet all day doing nothing like a nerd. According to her it actually helped lower the problems she was having with one forum filled with her content.

I suppose applying a little psychology doesn't hurt and it might help releave stress.

Personally I think every works a little and the big thing is to just keep turning into the fight. Stop listening to all those people that say we're never going to stop them.

Why would that help? These guys are making hand over fist cash with filelockers and why would they give 2 shits about being insulted.

Shut the forums down, shut the filelocker sites down, shut down processing.

AdultKing 10-14-2012 09:35 PM

I'd just like to point out to everyone that trying to communicate to the pirate community is pointless.

There is an incredulous post on Wjunction which demonstrates how pointless it is:

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After a lot of research & digging, I have discovered that yes in fact Robert King has been renaming otherwise legal files with illegal titles so he doesn't get burned for uploading them. {fraud} He then makes a screen shot of the alleged "illegal file" & posts them to his site http://stopfilelockers.com/ {slander} Implying that Paypal sells "bestiality" & "pedo". He digs another hole by posting email replies from Paypal violating their email privacy policy. http://coldcopy.com.au/paypal-merry-...aints-ignored/

I looked up a few definitions regarding the content on his sites & his conduct then sent him robert[at]fastwebdomination.com, robert[at]adplus.com.au the following letter:

Robert King,
It has come to my attention that you have been manipulating payment processors with fraudulent pretenses. I intend to collaborate with file host site owners, affiliates, & premium membership purchasers to file a class action law suit. Allegations & actions sought may include, but not limited to:
1.) Computer Fraud and Abuse Act: 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(2), 18 U.S.C. § 1030(a)(2), 1151, S.Rept. 112-91 § 2111, 18 U.S.C. 1030, 18 U.S.C. § 1030(d)
2.) Electronic Communications Privacy Act: 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510
3.) Communications Act: 47 U.S.C. §§ 553 and 605
4.) National Stolen Property Act: 18 U.S.C. § 2314
5.) Misrepresentation of © claimant: § 202.3(a)(3)(ii)

I will also work with Paypal providing proof of your fraudulent activities, violation of privacy policy, & recommend that they seek legal action against you.

To which he has not replied.
http://www.wjunction.com/1678379-post173.htm

Then there are equally ridiculous replies.

These comments stand on their own and there isn't really any need to go into these forums to counter them. In fact they simply further demonstrate just how desperate these guys are.

SplatterMaster 10-14-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19251850)
I'd just like to point out to everyone that trying to communicate to the pirate community is pointless.

There is an incredulous post on Wjunction which demonstrates how pointless it is:



http://www.wjunction.com/1678379-post173.htm

Then there are equally ridiculous replies.

These comments stand on their own and there isn't really any need to go into these forums to counter them. In fact they simply further demonstrate just how desperate these guys are.

LOL, probably Moggie under a different name grasping at straws again.

I hope these lockers know personally who their affiliates are. Pirates can usually be bought for the right price :winkwink: Never trust anyone unless you sit down at the table with them for dinner. Even then you should have doubts.

notinmybackyard 10-14-2012 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19251838)
Why would that help? These guys are making hand over fist cash with filelockers and why would they give 2 shits about being insulted.

Shut the forums down, shut the filelocker sites down, shut down processing.

I didn't say reason with them or try to explain anything to them. (that won't work) What I was doing was pointing out that a business friend of mine mocks and ridicules pirates for being loosers in life. And I think it's easy to see why mockery would work.

Pirates like KimDotCom are narcisstic. They are ego maniacs with a bent perspective on the world about themselves. Mocking and riddiculing these monsters with a continous message of their failings and faults is nothing more than a psychological assault. So think of it as waging psychological warfare.

Quote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare
The U.S. Department of Defense defines psychological warfare as:

"The planned use of propaganda and other psychological actions having the primary purpose of influencing the opinions, emotions, attitudes, and behavior of hostile foreign groups in such a way as to support the achievement of national objectives."


So when you look at in terms of the above than what my business associate is doing is a psychological operation... Or more commonly called * PSYOP *

COuld you imagine being in a forum with KimDotCom and calling him an fat looser fuck with a small dick? (A hooker I spoke to assured me he's a small boy)

Or pointing out to the pirate bay fan boys in the official pirate bay forum that their beloved Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Svartholm is today nothing more than a poor broke heroine addict that choose to live in Cambodia, a nation famous for being a pedophile haven.

If you can make these pirate assholes feel like shit or take a way a few of their "virtual friends".. Then again we start to win the war on pirates.

AdultKing 10-14-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19251902)
COuld you imagine being in a forum with KimDotCom and calling him an fat looser fuck with a small dick? (A hooker I spoke to assured me he's a small boy)

Or pointing out to the pirate bay fan boys in the official pirate bay forum that their beloved Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Svartholm is today nothing more than a poor broke heroine addict that choose to live in Cambodia, a nation famous for being a pedophile haven.

I do not approve of these methods and will not support this kind of activity.

There is no need to sink to the level of some of the people throwing abuse our way. It does nothing to further our progress on these matters and is an entirely inappropriate way of dealing with them.

baryl 10-14-2012 10:42 PM

At the end of the day, who really cares what those kids think or what their idiot opinions are about the law?

They're simply wrong and that's the end of the story. They can piss and moan all day long on their forum but it's not going to change their situation much.

bean-aid 10-14-2012 10:44 PM

If you post on forums that facilitate links to file locker sites you are increasing the popularity of the site and the file locker.

You can do what you want. I will take the path which is effective.

AdultKing 10-14-2012 10:49 PM

Correct. There is nothing to be gained from posting on their forums. Our campaign is effective enough as it is. I have clearly, several times posted on how people can help us.

Posting on their forums, hurling abuse at them, engaging in dialogue with them doesn't speed up the processes that we following to put an end to the infringing file locker industry.

Much of what we do behind the scenes involves careful, thoughtful and meaningful dialogue with third parties. There is no way to speed up these processes. Posting at WJunction will do nothing to help.

Please refer to my posts about how people can help and do those things, then you will be providing meaningful assistance and support to the cause.

Paul Markham 10-14-2012 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19250494)
I think that mainstream is actually benefiting much more than adult from what AK does.

Yes and they need to be brought on board.

Quote:

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19250521)
And as soon as mainstream with it's legal teams and deep pockets catches on....
The pirates are going to be praying for miracles.

Go get them adult king !!

We need to let them know more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19250773)
I think those of us that are NOT on the front lines of this fight against piracy could do something to help.

Without revealing "how it's exactly done" we could start educating mainstream about what they should be doing. Everyone of us can take spend 15 minutes looking for an email address to a mainstream studio, producer, etc and then sending them off a nice letter to tell them about how Adult King has approached this issue.

It's about building synergy and getting the right people in the right circles talking.

Perhaps we could even post some of those email addresses here and everyone can mass email the mainstream boys.


Great idea.

AdultKing 10-14-2012 11:51 PM

We are in dialogue with mainstream rights holders and when the time is right we'll announce what we're doing in that regard. I am happy with our progress.

No amount of blogging will speed up the processes that we are following with various aspects of forming the rights holder association or finalising agreements with third parties.

There are many basic things that people can do to further our progress, one of the most important is copying us with any DMCA or Infringement notice in relation to content being pirated.

The best ways for people to help have been explained here:

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19247145&postcount=3547

notinmybackyard 10-14-2012 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19251918)
If you post on forums that facilitate links to file locker sites you are increasing the popularity of the site and the file locker.

You got a good point there.

AdultKing 10-15-2012 12:01 AM

Man sent to prison on copyright counts:

http://www.courierherald.com/news/174099431.html

some more of these convictions may prove to disincentivise some operators, especially those residing in the United States.

AdultKing 10-15-2012 12:37 AM

If anyone knows who "filerking" is on WJunction please ask them to stop talking as if they are me or represent Stop File Lockers, they do not and should stop acting as if they do.

They are not representing our interests by engaging in uninformed dialogue with pirates, what's worse is they are not making it clear they are not involved with Stop File Lockers.

I am not on WJunction and do not post there. I was banned from there a week or so after joining back in July and have not returned, nor have any intention of doing so.

Paul Markham 10-15-2012 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19250773)
I think those of us that are NOT on the front lines of this fight against piracy could do something to help.

Emailed the BBC about their DVDs being pirated.

Just searched on Google for a BBC DVD, found a link on Filestube, followed the link and reported it to the BBC.

Rinse and repeat. took 10 minutes, can't find anyone higher to go for. Will do later.

Maybe we need an emailing champion to come in and advise us on this.

AdultKing 10-15-2012 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19252090)
Emailed the BBC about their DVDs being pirated.
Maybe we need an emailing champion to come in and advise us on this.

Firstly, the BBC already know their content is being pirated, they have a whole department tracking piracy.

It would help greatly if people would limit themselves to the things we have asked for help with rather than running off on new ideas that probably wont end up being executed properly.

I have posted time and time again the things we need help with and how people can become involved. Again a link:

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19247145&postcount=3547

While I applaud everyones enthusiasm to tackle new ideas, sometimes those ideas are counterproductive.

We are in direct dialogue with many mainstream rights holder associations and rights holders themselves. We are happy with how those discussions are going and there is nothing anyone can do to further our progress in that regard.

There's a saying slowly slowly catchy monkey. That's my strategy and I'm sticking to it.

Paul Markham 10-15-2012 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19252104)
Firstly, the BBC already know their content is being pirated, they have a whole department tracking piracy.

It would help greatly if people would limit themselves to the things we have asked for help with rather than running off on new ideas that probably wont end up being executed properly.

I have posted time and time again the things we need help with and how people can become involved. Again a link:

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19247145&postcount=3547

While I applaud everyones enthusiasm to tackle new ideas, sometimes those ideas are counterproductive.

We are in direct dialogue with many mainstream rights holder associations and rights holders themselves. We are happy with how those discussions are going and there is nothing anyone can do to further our progress in that regard.

There's a saying slowly slowly catchy monkey. That's my strategy and I'm sticking to it.

With respect AK. If the BBC have a department tracking piracy, they should team up with you or use your methods.. You and your methods are proven to work.

AdultKing 10-15-2012 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19252107)
With respect AK. If the BBC have a department tracking piracy, they should team up with you or use your methods.. You and your methods are proven to work.

As I have said, we have had discussions with and continue to have dialogue with mainstream rights holders and their respective rights holder associations. I am happy with our progress in this area.

We are well progressed on forming the rights holder association which will link in with Copy Control and as soon as all the necessary legal work and legal agreements have been completed I'll announce it and explain to people how they can join and be represented.

If people wish to report piracy to the BBC then there is one single email address to do it: [email protected]

People can also report piracy sites here: http://copycontrol.org/report-piracy/

notinmybackyard 10-15-2012 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19252110)
As I have said, we have had discussions with and continue to have dialogue with mainstream rights holders and their respective rights holder associations. I am happy with our progress in this area.

We are well progressed on forming the rights holder association which will link in with Copy Control and as soon as all the necessary legal work and legal agreements have been completed I'll announce it and explain to people how they can join and be represented.

If people wish to report piracy to the BBC then there is one single email address to do it: [email protected]

People can also report piracy sites here: http://copycontrol.org/report-piracy/


Adult King I have nothing but respect for you and believe me when I say that I don't want to do anything that hinders your efforts. I admit that I may not always have good ideas but I'm old school from the 1970s and I still tend to think a baseball bat is the best solution for every problem. If I appear savage than I apologize and ask you understand that I'm not in my comfort zone with the Internet.

But to this I ask that you understand that many of us have been forced to tolerate this pirate problem for a long time. We have been mocked, ridiculed and literally watched our companies drained of assets by people that we have almost no hope of finding in person.

Ok the era of the baseball bat is over and it's a good thing because I'm too old to swing it and I forget how to speak english when I'm angry. But like many others that have had to sit and be sodomizé by the pirates I'm wanting to do something. I don't want to get involved in your affairs because I know I would not understand them and I would probably cause damage.

To e-mail these companies and telling them about their pirated videos is my way of getting into the fight and it makes me feel productive and that I'm doing something to help. I also like to tell them about you and how you've gone after shutting down the money flow of pirates.

Perhaps a compromise and you can give us an official press kit or something that talks about stopfilelockers that we can include when we report the stolen content to the big mainstream companies.

DWB 10-15-2012 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19252333)
I admit that I may not always have good ideas but I'm old school from the 1970s and I still tend to think a baseball bat is the best solution for every problem.

I agree 100% that a baseball bat would fix our piracy problems really quick and should be the way to deal with the situation.

If someone started breaking kneecaps, this shit would come to a halt pretty quick.

Paul Markham 10-15-2012 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19252333)
To e-mail these companies and telling them about their pirated videos is my way of getting into the fight and it makes me feel productive and that I'm doing something to help. I also like to tell them about you and how you've gone after shutting down the money flow of pirates.

Perhaps a compromise and you can give us an official press kit or something that talks about stopfilelockers that we can include when we report the stolen content to the big mainstream companies.

:2 cents:

This is an excellent way forward.

AdultKing 10-15-2012 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19252333)
To e-mail these companies and telling them about their pirated videos is my way of getting into the fight and it makes me feel productive and that I'm doing something to help. I also like to tell them about you and how you've gone after shutting down the money flow of pirates.

Perhaps a compromise and you can give us an official press kit or something that talks about stopfilelockers that we can include when we report the stolen content to the big mainstream companies.

I appreciate the support and the enthusiasm to help and I know it's frustrating that that it appears that mainstream rights holders are being missed. Behind the scenes there is a lot going on with respect to mainstream rights holders. I'm really happy where things are heading however we're not ready to announce anything yet.

This is a really busy time with a lot going on for this project, much of it cannot be discussed in public, which may be frustrating for those watching. It's really imperative that everything we do follows a strategic path.

There are really important and tangible ways for people to help, I have outlined them several times recently. I'll link to the post again in case people have missed it:

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19247145&postcount=3547


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