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hdbuilder 10-25-2012 03:39 AM

bump it up back to top

AdultKing 10-25-2012 05:40 AM

If your business provides support to pirates then now is a good time to reconsider your business plan.

http://torrentfreak.com/torrent-site...damages-121024

adultmobile 10-25-2012 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19273474)
If your business provides support to pirates then now is a good time to reconsider your business plan.

http://torrentfreak.com/torrent-site...damages-121024

This is Dutch hosting provider; now this is interesting that so many piracy it is hosted in the The Netherlands (even Megaupload was), so ther emay be a migration, into where?

Quite different from USA where hardly hosting it is liable for anything: "The unlawful characteristics of the (activities on) SumoTorrent were evident. Moreover they were obvious to XS Networks? the verdict reads.

It is also interesting for the non-anonymity: The Court also ordered XS Networks to hand over all personal information they have on the operator of SumoTorrent or pay a penalty of 10,000 euros a day.

So as an update there is 4 "issues" in run a pirate site for profit:

1) Affiliate uploaders: Paypal lost within days; Visa / Mastercard via rogue pages also unstable.

2) Some hosting providers (dutch only for now?) will be fined and forced to tell the pirate site operator's name and address.

3) Some courts (in USA) will force advertising networks to stop deliver adverts to pirate sites.

4) Domain names, there was Enom and others hit by courts, but I think this is not relevant as the previous 3 as to change into strange tld on strange mantainer it is easy.

Also if you are very big as it was Megaupload, you may get federal agents enter your home from windows like in a movie.

AdultKing 10-25-2012 06:38 AM

US based hosting companies have plenty of liability, it's just that nobody has wielded the big stick yet, we intend to do so.

Any company providing material support to pirates is liable to be targeted.

Paul Markham 10-25-2012 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19273474)
If your business provides support to pirates then now is a good time to reconsider your business plan.

http://torrentfreak.com/torrent-site...damages-121024

More great news. :thumbsup

SKUP 10-26-2012 07:10 AM

Some Dutch hosting providers are way to clever to make the same mistakes XS Networks did. They know the law and they also now how to work around it. But "one" mistake will be enough ;-)

Nautilus 10-26-2012 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19275690)
Some Dutch hosting providers are way to clever to make the same mistakes XS Networks did. They know the law and they also now how to work around it. But "one" mistake will be enough ;-)

I wonder what hosting providers like Ecatel will do now - will they keep on ignoring DMCAs from copyright holders, or will they change their ways. Any ideas?

Captain Kawaii 10-26-2012 11:29 AM

"3) Some courts (in USA) will force advertising networks to stop deliver adverts to pirate sites."

You're going to make JuicyAds and others cry now. Not only pirated content but CP as well. Last night I used bing/google to find "legal/porn/forum/bbs" - A few good sites came up, not many. The rest were pirates and CP. JA were all over both Pirate sites and CP sites.

Tjeezers 10-26-2012 02:43 PM

back to the top

Paul Markham 10-26-2012 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19276372)
"3) Some courts (in USA) will force advertising networks to stop deliver adverts to pirate sites."

You're going to make JuicyAds and others cry now.

:thumbsup

AdultKing 10-27-2012 08:01 AM

Just a reminder to everyone.

Follow the progress of StopFileLockers live on Twitter. Follow @StopFileLockers http://twitter.com/StopFileLockers

or like the Facebook page at http://facebook.com/StopFileLockers

Report piracy sites at http://copycontrol.org/report-piracy/

You can cc all your DMCA & infringement reports to infringements -at- copycontrol.org

Official Copy Control updates and news at http://forum.copycontrol.org

Follow Copy Control on Twitter @CopyControlHQ http://twitter.com/CopyControlHQ

or like the Facebook page http://facebook.com/CopyControlHQ

Contributions to the Stop File Lockers project can be made using Paypal or Credit Card via Paypal using the ChipIn widget on http://stopfilelockers.com

Contributions to the Stop File Lockers project can also be made using Paxum to [email protected]

We can be contacted using the contact form on the Stop File Lockers website or on the Copy Control Website

http://stopfilelockers.com

http://copycontrol.org

Thank you to everyone who has supported this project, it wouldn't exist without you.

SKUP 10-27-2012 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19275825)
I wonder what hosting providers like Ecatel will do now - will they keep on ignoring DMCAs from copyright holders, or will they change their ways. Any ideas?

These guys are (I have to gave an understatement now) not really impressed by the law. But I do hope they will keep ignoring dmca's ;-)

Paul Markham 10-27-2012 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19277740)
These guys are (I have to gave an understatement now) not really impressed by the law. But I do hope they will keep ignoring dmca's ;-)

This is why we need to hit advertisers. No ads, no processing and hosting bills go unpaid.

Nautilus 10-27-2012 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19277740)
But I do hope they will keep ignoring dmca's ;-)

Yep at this point, after the XS decision, they'll do us all a favor by sticking to their old ways :pimp

Robbie 10-27-2012 01:14 PM

Just wanted to say that the month of Oct. has seen an increase of 11% in revenue to Claudia-Marie.Com over Sept.
And Sept. was an increase over August.

I don't know if it's directly attributable to Adult King's work...but the last two years have been pretty much "sideways" with good sales but no real growth. Now I've had two big months in a row of growth. And that is a nice chunk of extra income. :)

hdbuilder 10-27-2012 10:14 PM

I just found this on a forum, I think everyone will be happy, AK has them on his ToDo list.

Quote:

It's official - Avangate is cancelling contracts with all the Cyberlockers from October 31st.

Can you guys suggest another payment gateway that supports guys like us?

AdultKing 10-27-2012 10:51 PM

We're waiting to see what eventuates with Avangate.

We've sent various letters to Avangate and communicated with them via phone and email for months.

Until they drop the file sharing industry completely we consider them to be a rogue payment processor and we've been lobbying third parties to drop their various relationships with Avangate.

As of now it's a wait and see situation.

Paul Markham 10-28-2012 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19278455)
We're waiting to see what eventuates with Avangate.

We've sent various letters to Avangate and communicated with them via phone and email for months.

Until they drop the file sharing industry completely we consider them to be a rogue payment processor and we've been lobbying third parties to drop their various relationships with Avangate.

As of now it's a wait and see situation.

Wait and see. But it shows your campaign is doing more damage to the pirates than all the rest.

bean-aid 10-28-2012 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 19179559)
I'm guessing because you stay well the fuck away from Rapidshare, just like you do the tube sites. You know which direction the slapdown is gonna come from. Chin up though, because before then you'll have all the Paul Markham's of the world as your loyal allies, which will more than make up for all the players actually handling traffic waiting to piss on your grave over this sanctimonious bullshit. Oh yeah... and sig whores from Thailand (hmmm wonder why a man would move THERE) - they'll be your second biggest fans. And huge sources of revenue, believe that. I see a very bright future of eating Ramen and speaking on panels at conventions in your future. You will be known far and wide as the most upstanding pornographer on the planet. Hell, you might get to meet the President!

Rapidshare no longer works correctly. If they got another processor then that will be shut down. Shoot your mouth off and you will get what has, and will, come.

BTW... Since you own cuckolds.com I found out that you have exactly 42 videos in your members area and they are complete fucking bullshit vids. You are the epitome of *ghetto* in this industry. Go fuck yourself :321GFY

AdultKing 10-28-2012 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19278493)
Rapidshare no longer works correctly. If they got another processor then that will be shut down. Shoot your mouth off and you will get what has, and will, come.

I think you'll find it's Rapidgator with problems at the moment.

Rapidshare are doing just fine, hosting mountains of copyright infringing content and getting away with monetizing it.

bean-aid 10-28-2012 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19278500)
I think you'll find it's Rapidgator with problems at the moment.

Rapidshare are doing just fine, hosting mountains of copyright infringing content and getting away with monetizing it.

You are right.

It blows me away Dig420 has 1000's upon 1000's of pirated links to filelockers on his forum yet has exactly 42 vids in the members area of cuckolds.com and the other sites he includes. Total joke. I don't remember Sara Swirls getting any compensation for her vids being displayed 1000's of times on his forum. But wait... what did he say?

"You're never going to see that. I've been in this biz since 1996. I'm adapting instead of dying. AK is an attention whore looking to stay on the front page as long as possible and doing a great job of it. Vthays fine, but guess what? Tubes aren't going away. File sharing isn't going away. Ever. Not to mention, one big tube takes more views than every file share in the world put together. You guys sit here yanking each others cixks, you have no fuxking idea what's up in this industry anymore. What the fuxk ever. Im sitting in Mandalay bay on my cell with a hot asian vitch passed out next to me, when I wake up I'll keep doing what has to be done. Wake the fuck up. If you're not rich already, bitching like some nickel n dime tool over small potatoes like file shares isn't ginna help you."

johnnyloadproductions 10-28-2012 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19278500)
I think you'll find it's Rapidgator with problems at the moment.

Rapidshare are doing just fine, hosting mountains of copyright infringing content and getting away with monetizing it.

Rapidshare is one of the oldest (the one that really got the file locker industry to where it is today) and when it comes time it will feel the wrath of SFL.

johnnyloadproductions 10-28-2012 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19278506)

"You're never going to see that. I've been in this biz since 1996. I'm adapting instead of dying. AK is an attention whore looking to stay on the front page as long as possible and doing a great job of it. Vthays fine, but guess what? Tubes aren't going away. File sharing isn't going away. Ever. Not to mention, one big tube takes more views than every file share in the world put together. You guys sit here yanking each others cixks, you have no fuxking idea what's up in this industry anymore. What the fuxk ever. Im sitting in Mandalay bay on my cell with a hot asian vitch passed out next to me, when I wake up I'll keep doing what has to be done. Wake the fuck up. If you're not rich already, bitching like some nickel n dime tool over small potatoes like file shares isn't ginna help you."

So adapting in his words is using the file locker industry to make some affiliate sales.
The other thing I don't like about this guy is the whole "pimp-lifestyle" aspect to it. Waking up next to some "asian bitch" huh? Can't even spell bitch right? vitch? What grade did you drop out of? I would seriously consider investing your file locker earnings into a speech instructor for elocution sessions or studying english a bit better.

If Adult King hadn't organized this, it almost certainly wouldn't have happened on the scale he's doing it with any other members or organization (anywhere). The man actually has a business brain that understands COMPLETELY how this entire operation works and knows what he can do now and what he needs to hold off on.

I may sound like an ass kisser but this is just the truth. There are services that remove your links but that doesn't solve the problem overall. For thousands striking at the branches of evil, there is but one striking at the root (the payment processors of these criminal enterprises in this case).

Anyone who is calling the SFL campaign silly for not attacking tubes is an utter imbecile.
I know how these guys think because for a brief period of time I almost considered becoming an upload monkey myself. I was so mad that my Johnny Load packages sold for next to nothing.
One guy bought a license off of me for $100 and told me I was lucky he even decided to buy them. "Most people just steal their content nowadays" he said in broken english. He even referred to himself as a vulture cleaning up the mess.

Other people make the argument not to even worry about it as the people that download from file lockers wouldn't buy from your site anyway. Not true at all. Many people have been trained to look everywhere for free and your only making it worse by letting it continue. So now, something is being done.

bean-aid 10-28-2012 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19278516)
So now, something is being done.

Something is being done for sure. I've given what I can and will continue to do so. There is absolutely no way that niche content providers can survive if stealing all their shit and putting it on filelockers is the model.

This fucking Dig420 is a fuckwad... he is facilitating all of the interracial and cuckold content to be easily downloaded via his forum.

http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36768
http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=34281

On and on...

He has 42 vids in his members area. Obviously member sales is not the focus. All he is doing is providing a platform to get free videos and is making his money off of affiliate filelocker sales. But we don't know qwat da shfuck dis going on.

AdultKing 10-28-2012 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19278528)
Something is being done for sure. I've given what I can and will continue to do so. There is absolutely no way that niche content providers can survive if stealing all their shit and putting it on filelockers is the model.

This fucking Dig420 is a fuckwad... he is facilitating all of the interracial and cuckold content to be easily downloaded via his forum.

http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36768
http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=34281

Money is also made via image hosts, paying per thousand views of images of infringing content. It's a piracy free for all, which is going to come to an end.

Paul Markham 10-28-2012 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19278528)
Something is being done for sure. I've given what I can and will continue to do so. There is absolutely no way that niche content providers can survive if stealing all their shit and putting it on filelockers is the model.

This fucking Dig420 is a fuckwad... he is facilitating all of the interracial and cuckold content to be easily downloaded via his forum.

http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36768
http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=34281

On and on...

He has 42 vids in his members area. Obviously member sales is not the focus. All he is doing is providing a platform to get free videos and is making his money off of affiliate filelocker sales. But we don't know qwat da shfuck dis going on.

I tried to find the forum rules. Seems they don't have any.

L-Pink 10-28-2012 07:27 AM

Bump for AK !!!

Nautilus 10-28-2012 10:02 AM

Seeding chaos and destruction into the piracy realm - this week's terminations log.

Fileprohost.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Mafiastorage.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal
247upload.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Gbmeister.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Gbmeister.com (filehost) terminated by Payza
Gbmeister.com (filehost) terminated by Moneybookers
Unrestrict.li (enabler) terminated by Paypal
Uploo.net (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Freeuploads.fr (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Rapidimg.org (imagehost) terminated by Paypal
Albafile.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Uplly.com (filehost) terminated by HiPay (again)
Uploadcore.com (filehost) terminated by Moneybookers
Clouds.to (filehost) terminated by Moneybookers
Megacache.net (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Files2upload.net (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Cramit.in (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Fileking.co (filehost) terminated by Regnow
Bitshare.com (filehost) terminated by Swreg.org
Freakshare.com (filehost) terminated by Swreg.org
Multidown.co.il (enabler) terminated by Paypal

Nautilus 10-28-2012 10:05 AM

More dead hosts
Some of them were already reported as dead, we just keep organizing our records.

http://animegoon.com
http://bigandfree.com
http://buckshare.com
http://bzlink.us
http://cloudnxt.com
http://exzip.com
http://file4sharing
http://filefat.com
http://filehostr.net
http://filesharehost.com
http://filetechnology.com
http://fileupped.com
http://gptfile.com
http://ihostia.com
http://megashare.com
http://ngsfile.com
http://ok2upload.com
http://ovfile.com
http://quickupload.net
http://shareupload.com
http://shareupload.net
http://ugotfile.com
http://ultrafiles.com
http://uploadace.com
http://upthe.net
http://usershare.net
http://vidreel.com
http://xtshare.com

MrDeiz 10-28-2012 10:50 AM

I <3 this thread

adultmobile 10-28-2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19278534)
Money is also made via image hosts, paying per thousand views of images of infringing content. It's a piracy free for all, which is going to come to an end.

Yes image hosts business is big enough. Is a small screen capture image as infringing as a dvd rip or .iso of a software, which is 100% same as original?
I see that for music, a very low quality audio of a copyrighted song (for example a re-re-broadcast radio->webcam->internet which sounds really bad), it could be safe, because "quality it is so bad, that it does not give the same feeling of the original", some judge said in a few countries. Same argument it could be said of video thumbnails, which are resized and just few frames, so "only a preview" or "not giving same feeling of the original".
There was perfect10 to sue google for displaying preview thumbnails, there also google said hey but that's so smaller are you joking, it is only a preview.
Or couse uploading the full size photos of a photo site would be different but a quite small % of their business, main one is screencaps of covers or video contents.

Other way to argue with an image host, even if vidcaps can not be considered piracy on its own being "not give same feeling of original", it could be these facilitate the file locker with the full content, but, the image host may say they don't know if screencap is used for legal or illegal previews, in fact this is not easy to determine really.

SKUP 10-28-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19278455)
We're waiting to see what eventuates with Avangate.

We've sent various letters to Avangate and communicated with them via phone and email for months.

Until they drop the file sharing industry completely we consider them to be a rogue payment processor and we've been lobbying third parties to drop their various relationships with Avangate.

As of now it's a wait and see situation.

They will drop it. No question about it. Makes me wonder why I am in Bucharest at the moment :Oh crap :winkwink:

Paul Markham 10-28-2012 02:18 PM

More with problems paying the bills. :thumbsup:thumbsup

Nautilus 10-28-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19279262)
Is a small screen capture image as infringing as a dvd rip or .iso of a software, which is 100% same as original?

Most if not all of the image piracy sites also host full sized photos that are 100% the same as original. For producers and paysites which offer mostly photo content (such as Met-Art or Femjoy) image hosts are even bigger problem than file hosts.

AdultKing 10-28-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19279267)
They will drop it. No question about it. Makes me wonder why I am in Bucharest at the moment :Oh crap :winkwink:

What are you saying Siep, that you're responsible for Avangate dropping file hosts ?

SKUP 10-29-2012 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19279546)
What are you saying Siep, that you're responsible for Avangate dropping file hosts ?

That would be megalomania. Only Avangate can be held responsible for their actions.

AdultKing 10-29-2012 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19279888)
That would be megalomania. Only Avangate can be held responsible for their actions.

I don't understand why you feel the need to add cryptic comments to this thread.

Please enlighten us, what are you doing in Bucharest ? Since you imply it has something to to with Avangate.

SKUP 10-29-2012 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19279989)
I don't understand why you feel the need to add cryptic comments to this thread.

Please enlighten us, what are you doing in Bucharest ? Since you imply it has something to to with Avangate.

I do hope you don't mind that I am not going to tell you what I am doing in Bucharest. I am not even telling my wife :) . But it was sort of an inside joke. Avangate is based in Amsterdam, the city in wich I live. So when big decisions are goint to be taken, I should be in Amsterdam and not in Bucharest :upsidedow

Triple-A 10-29-2012 10:05 AM

fascinating...

*bump*

Klen 10-29-2012 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19280220)
I do hope you don't mind that I am not going to tell you what I am doing in Bucharest. I am not even telling my wife :) . But it was sort of an inside joke. Avangate is based in Amsterdam, the city in wich I live. So when big decisions are goint to be taken, I should be in Amsterdam and not in Bucharest :upsidedow

You got tired of Amsterdam whores and want to try something new ? :1orglaugh


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